Is there a website like goozex?
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Not sure what your angle here is, but Goozex is far from a scam website. It's great for people that want to trade without having to negotiate the deal and the trade in points are usually VERY fair. You may not like paying $1 per trade but no other website will work so quickly to refund your points if the trade goes awry.
Other trade websites are www.gametz.com and www.tradegamesnow.com though I've used them both (as well as the trading forums here) and feel the safest using goozex.
Other trade websites are www.gametz.com and www.tradegamesnow.com though I've used them both (as well as the trading forums here) and feel the safest using goozex.
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[quote name='Ather']Goozex IS a scam. They don't refund squat, and the trade points are anything but fair. They also like leaving positive feedback on your behalf in secret. I'm sorry I ever found that horrid, theiving, lying site.[/quote]
Tell that to the hundreds of CAGs that use Goozex.
Tell that to the hundreds of CAGs that use Goozex.
[quote name='Ather']Goozex IS a scam. They don't refund squat, and the trade points are anything but fair. They also like leaving positive feedback on your behalf in secret. I'm sorry I ever found that horrid, theiving, lying site.[/quote]
I had my points refunded as soon as I filed for them when someone claimed to send GTA IV but it never showed up so I can personally attest to the integrity of their site on at least one occurance.
And the point system is unfair? Please share with us where you can trade games in for close to full value a month or few after release? Supply and demand are figured into the point value (which admittingly is not ALWAYS perfect) so highly requested games hold value while over supplied games decrease in value.
They left positive feedback on your behalf? Maybe because you were a deadbeat and decided not to leave feedback be it positive, neutral, or negative. If you never received a game you requested and it was claimed to be sent, you should have left negative feedback before the trading period closed. Do not denounce a service that you didn't take the time to learn about.
You're not going to win this argument because 1) you don't know what you're talking about 2) this website has a large user base on goozex as well.
I had my points refunded as soon as I filed for them when someone claimed to send GTA IV but it never showed up so I can personally attest to the integrity of their site on at least one occurance. And the point system is unfair? Please share with us where you can trade games in for close to full value a month or few after release? Supply and demand are figured into the point value (which admittingly is not ALWAYS perfect) so highly requested games hold value while over supplied games decrease in value.
They left positive feedback on your behalf? Maybe because you were a deadbeat and decided not to leave feedback be it positive, neutral, or negative. If you never received a game you requested and it was claimed to be sent, you should have left negative feedback before the trading period closed. Do not denounce a service that you didn't take the time to learn about.
You're not going to win this argument because 1) you don't know what you're talking about 2) this website has a large user base on goozex as well.
[quote name='Ather']Goozex IS a scam. They don't refund squat, and the trade points are anything but fair. They also like leaving positive feedback on your behalf in secret. I'm sorry I ever found that horrid, theiving, lying site.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. Any time I've marked a game a not received, they've refunded my points within 24 hours. Point values are quite fair, based on the demand of the game, and the availability. And they don't leave positive feedback 'in secret' -- it's well known that after an extended amount of time without leaving feedback, the system closes it out automatically, and notes that in the comment section. If the system closed out your trade with postitve feedback, it's your own goddamn fault for not leaving your own within a
ing month.
Bullshit. Any time I've marked a game a not received, they've refunded my points within 24 hours. Point values are quite fair, based on the demand of the game, and the availability. And they don't leave positive feedback 'in secret' -- it's well known that after an extended amount of time without leaving feedback, the system closes it out automatically, and notes that in the comment section. If the system closed out your trade with postitve feedback, it's your own goddamn fault for not leaving your own within a
ing month.
I am telling it to all those members. Everytime someone posts the full glory of Goozex, I point out that it's not that great.
>I had my points refunded as soon as I filed for them when someone claimed to send GTA IV but it >never showed up so I can personally attest to the integrity of their site on at least one occurance.
Great. Who said that's my problem? In fact, that's the only way Goozex cares. As long as you get a playable game, it's a successful trade in their eyes. In fact, despite several members pointing out how to fix their major flaw, they still refuse to even address the issue.
>They left positive feedback on your behalf? Maybe because you were a deadbeat and decided not to >leave feedback be it positive, neutral, or negative.
Maybe it's because I was stupidly trying to work things out with the lying scammer, instead of just filing negative feedback. Alas, Goozex doesn't believe in that. They don't like it when you try to work things out. I also thought she was telling the truth about fixing things. Had I known she was just after positive feedback, I would have negatived her big time. But I was raised to give people, a chance to right there wrongs. Clearly not Goozex material. Another reason I depsies the site. I don't like sites that force you to attack others. People do that on eBay, and look at it now. And worse one of the Admins chewed em out because of it. Who does that? Goozex should be encouraging working things out, not requiering vicious retatliation.
>If you never received a game you requested and it was claimed to be sent,
Funny how everybody thinks that's the only problem. Even Goozex's founders were too stupid to realize other things can go wrong. If Goozex was so great, they would have merrily refunded me at beat a third of my points. also a suggested remedy that they refuse to incorporate.
>you should have left negative feedback before the trading period closed.
And they sent me 3 e-mails, none of which bothered to add that little detail. But hey, I'm a chump for giving somebody a chance.
>Do not denounce a service that you didn't take the time to learn about.
But I did learn about it. Your making assumptions based on errant info.
>You're not going to win this argument
Win with whom? Goozex's curerent members? No, not who I'm going for.
>because 1) you don't know what you're talking about
I speak from personal experience. Am I to remain quite and not warn of Goozex's problems? If Goozex was so great, how come many people end up ripped off the same way because Goozex refuses to deal with all the issues that come up with trading? They only care about the game arriving. It never occurred to them that isn't the only problem. The fact they refuse to take any of the advice offered to fix the other problems is downright scary. That means they are fine with members lying and scamming. I should have filed mail fraud charges against the user when I had the chance. But no, I decided to give her a second chance. Last time I ever do that. And now I had to throw out 2 games because I can never trust Goozex again (I'm not even counting the time they spammed members with Forum reports). I hate filling up landfills this way. All thnaks to Goozex. Environmentally irresponsible.
>2) this website has a large user base on goozex as well.[/quote]
And not who I'm even addressing. But hey, when you see the true cracks in Goozex's infaalible system, remember, you were aware of it. I just hope that lying scammer isn't a member here.
>I had my points refunded as soon as I filed for them when someone claimed to send GTA IV but it >never showed up so I can personally attest to the integrity of their site on at least one occurance.
Great. Who said that's my problem? In fact, that's the only way Goozex cares. As long as you get a playable game, it's a successful trade in their eyes. In fact, despite several members pointing out how to fix their major flaw, they still refuse to even address the issue.
>They left positive feedback on your behalf? Maybe because you were a deadbeat and decided not to >leave feedback be it positive, neutral, or negative.
Maybe it's because I was stupidly trying to work things out with the lying scammer, instead of just filing negative feedback. Alas, Goozex doesn't believe in that. They don't like it when you try to work things out. I also thought she was telling the truth about fixing things. Had I known she was just after positive feedback, I would have negatived her big time. But I was raised to give people, a chance to right there wrongs. Clearly not Goozex material. Another reason I depsies the site. I don't like sites that force you to attack others. People do that on eBay, and look at it now. And worse one of the Admins chewed em out because of it. Who does that? Goozex should be encouraging working things out, not requiering vicious retatliation.
>If you never received a game you requested and it was claimed to be sent,
Funny how everybody thinks that's the only problem. Even Goozex's founders were too stupid to realize other things can go wrong. If Goozex was so great, they would have merrily refunded me at beat a third of my points. also a suggested remedy that they refuse to incorporate.
>you should have left negative feedback before the trading period closed.
And they sent me 3 e-mails, none of which bothered to add that little detail. But hey, I'm a chump for giving somebody a chance.
>Do not denounce a service that you didn't take the time to learn about.
But I did learn about it. Your making assumptions based on errant info.
>You're not going to win this argument
Win with whom? Goozex's curerent members? No, not who I'm going for.
>because 1) you don't know what you're talking about
I speak from personal experience. Am I to remain quite and not warn of Goozex's problems? If Goozex was so great, how come many people end up ripped off the same way because Goozex refuses to deal with all the issues that come up with trading? They only care about the game arriving. It never occurred to them that isn't the only problem. The fact they refuse to take any of the advice offered to fix the other problems is downright scary. That means they are fine with members lying and scamming. I should have filed mail fraud charges against the user when I had the chance. But no, I decided to give her a second chance. Last time I ever do that. And now I had to throw out 2 games because I can never trust Goozex again (I'm not even counting the time they spammed members with Forum reports). I hate filling up landfills this way. All thnaks to Goozex. Environmentally irresponsible.
>2) this website has a large user base on goozex as well.[/quote]
And not who I'm even addressing. But hey, when you see the true cracks in Goozex's infaalible system, remember, you were aware of it. I just hope that lying scammer isn't a member here.
[quote name='Ather']Maybe it's because I was stupidly trying to work things out with the lying scammer, instead of just filing negative feedback.....And they sent me 3 e-mails, none of which bothered to add that little detail. But hey, I'm a chump for giving somebody a chance.[/quote]
Basically, yeah. Goozex is streamlined to be convenient for both traders and they chewed that person out for your benefit so it doesn't happen again. Who cares what complications were happening on the other side? He/she knows the rules and if he/she doesn't know the rules then they shouldn't be trading on the site to begin with.
Your job is not to hold someone's hands and teach them to use Goozex. Heck, I don't even use Goozex and I know that much. I only used it once to get a free game, but my friend uses it all the time.
Basically, yeah. Goozex is streamlined to be convenient for both traders and they chewed that person out for your benefit so it doesn't happen again. Who cares what complications were happening on the other side? He/she knows the rules and if he/she doesn't know the rules then they shouldn't be trading on the site to begin with.
Your job is not to hold someone's hands and teach them to use Goozex. Heck, I don't even use Goozex and I know that much. I only used it once to get a free game, but my friend uses it all the time.
uhm... i tried to read your whole post, but fail to see what the "that isn't the only problem" is reffering to... anyhow... I personally have had a very good experience using Goozex... and would recommend them. I've used SaySwap in the past but have not had a great experience with them... the point system is worthless because noone wants to trade games for points... which I found out after trading in a game for points... I still have points on that account that noone wants! 
Goozex FTW!
Goozex FTW!
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The only problem I have with Goozex (aside from the occasionally-deflated point values for older games ) is how they consider receiving a wrong game or an incomplete game (relative to what you requested) a Neutral feedback, which doesn't refund points and doesn't deduct feedback points from the seller.
The new feedback system makes both these actions worth of a negative feedback and a points refund, so my complaint is no longer valid.
The only people I've ever seen complain about Goozex are those who signed up only to get their free game, or those who signed up without completely understanding how it works and what's expected of them. Judging by the anti-Goozex posts in this thread, these posters are no different.
Fact: You receive at least two e-mails (possibly more) towards the end of the trading period reminding you to leave feedback before the trade period closes.
Fact: The above detail is stated in the site FAQ in the form of a forum link: http://www.goozex.com/community/forums/t/20533.aspx
Fact: Negative feedback can be reversed at the buyer's request, as it has been both for me and by me.
Fact: Being in the process of resolving a trade or sale independently is not an excuse to ignore standard feedback protocol on Goozex, eBay, or any other commerce site.
The new feedback system makes both these actions worth of a negative feedback and a points refund, so my complaint is no longer valid.
The only people I've ever seen complain about Goozex are those who signed up only to get their free game, or those who signed up without completely understanding how it works and what's expected of them. Judging by the anti-Goozex posts in this thread, these posters are no different.
Fact: You receive at least two e-mails (possibly more) towards the end of the trading period reminding you to leave feedback before the trade period closes.
Fact: The above detail is stated in the site FAQ in the form of a forum link: http://www.goozex.com/community/forums/t/20533.aspx
Fact: Negative feedback can be reversed at the buyer's request, as it has been both for me and by me.
Fact: Being in the process of resolving a trade or sale independently is not an excuse to ignore standard feedback protocol on Goozex, eBay, or any other commerce site.
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I am curious as to the other problems you are skirting around. And yes you are trying to argue by posting your vent in an open forum about a website that has a very visible agreement to promote itself on this website. Do you go to sports games and wonder why people give you a hard time if you cheer for the visiting team? I clearly stated that the goozex system wasn't perfect but after numerous trades on this website, gametz, goozex, and tradegamesnow I am the most comfortable with goozex. NO other game trading site offers any sort of protection for trading (including cheapassgamers) and working out issues other than "we'll put a mark on his record and maybe ban him if it happens enough."
I don't mean to attack you and I share your optimistic (though no longer practical) nature, but c'mon, the site is extremely active with members who took the time to learn the ins and outs of how to successfully use it. It has its flaws and I don't blame the management for being reluctant to bring forth policies that go against popular opinion (based on the maximum point value debacle) without a general agreement in place.
It's fine that you do not agree with me and cannot see the upside to using goozex, but I will say that in my opinion the point values are generally fair, the buyer protection is fair, and the ease of not having to negotiate trades with stingy people who overvalue the hell out of their games makes goozex the first choice for me.
I don't mean to attack you and I share your optimistic (though no longer practical) nature, but c'mon, the site is extremely active with members who took the time to learn the ins and outs of how to successfully use it. It has its flaws and I don't blame the management for being reluctant to bring forth policies that go against popular opinion (based on the maximum point value debacle) without a general agreement in place.
It's fine that you do not agree with me and cannot see the upside to using goozex, but I will say that in my opinion the point values are generally fair, the buyer protection is fair, and the ease of not having to negotiate trades with stingy people who overvalue the hell out of their games makes goozex the first choice for me.
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I like www.gametz.com myself.
Their match system makes it easy to find ppl who have what you want and want what you have.
I have had 53 trades and no issues. Just trade with feedback ppl or have 0 feedbackers send first and you should be A-OK.
Their match system makes it easy to find ppl who have what you want and want what you have.
I have had 53 trades and no issues. Just trade with feedback ppl or have 0 feedbackers send first and you should be A-OK.
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This is why I only trade on here and I usually wait until I receive the other person's end of the deal BEFORE I ship out, regardless of feedback scores.
So far, so good for me.
How bad were the two games you 'had to throw out' though, Ather? Deep gouges or top damage? Something irreparable like that? Or was it just a series of scratches other damage that could've been fixable?
So far, so good for me.
How bad were the two games you 'had to throw out' though, Ather? Deep gouges or top damage? Something irreparable like that? Or was it just a series of scratches other damage that could've been fixable?
The games are fine. I just had no more need for them, and hit a slump of nonpayers in eBay (thanks to their new no seller can neg feedback rules).
Arguing? No, I'm posting my experiences to warn others. Everybody is always Goozex is awesome, Goozex is great, we surrender our will as of this date. I'm letting people know it's not that rosey in Gooeyland. People have problems, the same problems, and are left in the lurch. No protocols for anything but the game didn't arrive. Even the latets updates to make trading betetr avoids any rela issues.
And look at the behavior it causes here. I point out it's not the greatest thing ever, and right away, everybody is jumping down my throat. You're a deadbeat for not leaving feedback. You don't know what you're talking about. In any other thread, there'd be at least one, I'm so sorry you had a bad experience. Don't let one person sour you on the whole thing. Is there anyway we can help you fix things? Yet as soon as you put your Goozex hate on, it's site brother against site brother. Don't you dare dis Goozex. Nothing bad can happen on Goozex. They solve problems immediately. Well, accept for 6 of us with the exact same problem, over the course of 2 months (and that's just what I saw at the time.) That's practically once a week. And 3 o them posted 3 different solutions to help solve these things. None have been incorporated. No points and trade credits have been refunded.
That's why it's my duty to let others know there are problems with Goozex. If any wish to continue, knock yourselves out. I have had barely any problems with Vista. Others have. Are they lying? Wrong? Unable to figure Vista out? No, sometimes it really is Vista.
Goozex has a major flaw which causes some of us to slip through the cracks, and not even a sorry from Goozex. It as though they feel a successful trade has occurred. At the very least, I should have had 200 points credited back to me. Yet nothing. How odd that a site which promises to protect it's members does not, despite a constant recurrance of the same problem with members. That alone should cause a ne p olicy. Yet here we are. We're screwed over because Goozex does not see any problems at all.
A game arrived, good enough. Successful trades all around. And until I get the successful trade I was promised (which will require my 200 points and trade credit back), I'm going to keep on letting people know Goozex is not the infallible site people claims it is, but one that allows scams and ripoffs by it's members. Since Goozex refuses to deal with, or even acknowledge, the problem.
Arguing? No, I'm posting my experiences to warn others. Everybody is always Goozex is awesome, Goozex is great, we surrender our will as of this date. I'm letting people know it's not that rosey in Gooeyland. People have problems, the same problems, and are left in the lurch. No protocols for anything but the game didn't arrive. Even the latets updates to make trading betetr avoids any rela issues.
And look at the behavior it causes here. I point out it's not the greatest thing ever, and right away, everybody is jumping down my throat. You're a deadbeat for not leaving feedback. You don't know what you're talking about. In any other thread, there'd be at least one, I'm so sorry you had a bad experience. Don't let one person sour you on the whole thing. Is there anyway we can help you fix things? Yet as soon as you put your Goozex hate on, it's site brother against site brother. Don't you dare dis Goozex. Nothing bad can happen on Goozex. They solve problems immediately. Well, accept for 6 of us with the exact same problem, over the course of 2 months (and that's just what I saw at the time.) That's practically once a week. And 3 o them posted 3 different solutions to help solve these things. None have been incorporated. No points and trade credits have been refunded.
That's why it's my duty to let others know there are problems with Goozex. If any wish to continue, knock yourselves out. I have had barely any problems with Vista. Others have. Are they lying? Wrong? Unable to figure Vista out? No, sometimes it really is Vista.
Goozex has a major flaw which causes some of us to slip through the cracks, and not even a sorry from Goozex. It as though they feel a successful trade has occurred. At the very least, I should have had 200 points credited back to me. Yet nothing. How odd that a site which promises to protect it's members does not, despite a constant recurrance of the same problem with members. That alone should cause a ne p olicy. Yet here we are. We're screwed over because Goozex does not see any problems at all.
A game arrived, good enough. Successful trades all around. And until I get the successful trade I was promised (which will require my 200 points and trade credit back), I'm going to keep on letting people know Goozex is not the infallible site people claims it is, but one that allows scams and ripoffs by it's members. Since Goozex refuses to deal with, or even acknowledge, the problem.
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[quote name='Ather']And look at the behavior it causes here. I point out it's not the greatest thing ever, and right away, everybody is jumping down my throat.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Ather']Goozex IS a scam.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between saying that something isn't the greatest thing ever (and you're right... boobs > Goozex), and saying that something is a flat-out scam.
Goozex isn't a scam. If you use the service correctly and take the proper precautions, there's really no risk.
[quote name='Ather']Goozex IS a scam.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between saying that something isn't the greatest thing ever (and you're right... boobs > Goozex), and saying that something is a flat-out scam.
Goozex isn't a scam. If you use the service correctly and take the proper precautions, there's really no risk.
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[quote name='Renaissance 2K']There's a difference between saying that something isn't the greatest thing ever (and you're right... boobs > Goozex), and saying that something is a flat-out scam.
Goozex isn't a scam. If you use the service correctly and take the proper precautions, there's really no risk.[/QUOTE]
And I'm calling you out on this as well, as you've provided very little convincing detail as to why you consider Goozex a scam. Part of the reason why many users here are "jumping at your throat" is that you've provided little to no evidence as to why you consider Goozex a scam, outside of you claiming you never got points refunded.
Several points of your are already answered on Goozex's website:
[quote name='Goozex FAQ']Second, the Goozex system automatically closes a trade and reports positive feedback for the Seller if the Buyer does not provide feedback within 21 days.[/quote]
It is your responsibility to leave negative feedback should a trade go sour. This is clearly stated in the FAQ. Buyers are guaranteed to receive feedback no matter what, and this also encourages sellers to give timely feedback be it good or bad. The three weeks is clearly outlined in the FAQ and as several have mentioned, Goozex sends you three reminder emails.
People obviously have a high opinion of Goozex here because it works, and the overall experience is positive. I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience, but the burden of proof is on you to explain why you consider Goozex a scam. Maybe if you provide more detailed information on your situation some of us might be able to help you.
Goozex isn't a scam. If you use the service correctly and take the proper precautions, there's really no risk.[/QUOTE]
And I'm calling you out on this as well, as you've provided very little convincing detail as to why you consider Goozex a scam. Part of the reason why many users here are "jumping at your throat" is that you've provided little to no evidence as to why you consider Goozex a scam, outside of you claiming you never got points refunded.
Several points of your are already answered on Goozex's website:
[quote name='Goozex FAQ']Second, the Goozex system automatically closes a trade and reports positive feedback for the Seller if the Buyer does not provide feedback within 21 days.[/quote]
It is your responsibility to leave negative feedback should a trade go sour. This is clearly stated in the FAQ. Buyers are guaranteed to receive feedback no matter what, and this also encourages sellers to give timely feedback be it good or bad. The three weeks is clearly outlined in the FAQ and as several have mentioned, Goozex sends you three reminder emails.
People obviously have a high opinion of Goozex here because it works, and the overall experience is positive. I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience, but the burden of proof is on you to explain why you consider Goozex a scam. Maybe if you provide more detailed information on your situation some of us might be able to help you.
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Sorry, but how is something a scam when everyone but you says it isn't? Come on. CAGs are extremely vocal about bad service and are wise to nonsense. If there was something fishy about Goozex, people on here would be bashing them daily. They aren't, though. It's not a scam. You might have had a bad experience with them, but unfortunately for you, your experiences do not constitute the whole of human interactions. I've had bad experiences with Dell. Are they scammers?
I still don't follow you. You threw out two games because ebay members didn't pay and you are mad at goozex? Now you're mad no one offered a shoulder to cry on, and you STILL didn't explicitly state what wrong for you other than "everyone assumes the game never arrived"
Am I the only one lost here?
Am I the only one lost here?
[quote name='QiG']I still don't follow you. You threw out two games because ebay members didn't pay and you are mad at goozex? Now you're mad no one offered a shoulder to cry on, and you STILL didn't explicitly state what wrong for you other than "everyone assumes the game never arrived"
Am I the only one lost here?[/quote]
"Ather IS a scam."
Am I the only one lost here?[/quote]
"Ather IS a scam."
I just signed up, got the free game, Awesome too! and also traded one game out, got posi feedback and now I have more points to spend... had to buy trade credits though. Now I'll have two more coming to me.
Goozex is great... maybe not perfect for me, I don't usually get rid of things, but it works fine and simple.
Goozex is great... maybe not perfect for me, I don't usually get rid of things, but it works fine and simple.
How am I a scam Kerig? It makes no sense to randomly throw back words in people's faces? Did I rip you off? Offer a bait and switch? Please explain?
It's very simple. I had 2 games I had no need for. They were collecting dust, taking up room. What to do with them? Sell on eBay? No, eBay is too risky now that winners no longer have to pay. Trade them? No, no viable trade site. I'm certainly never using Goozex again. They showed me their true colors. Only choice left is garbage.
Complaining about no shoulder to cry on? no, I used Goozex, and was ripped off. Goozex won't do anything about it, like they say they will. There is no protection in place. 7 others had the same problem. All of us posted within 2 months time. That's not saying much,. What did Goozex do? Nothing. We suggested ways to avoid such situations later, yet Goozex still refuses to adopt any policies. If a site says they offe ruse prrotection, and doesn't, and people are complaining about the same thing, that is a legitimate complaint. And an error in the site that should be addressed. Yet, still Goozex refuses to. That's not what a good site does. That's what a scam site does. They out right lied and said they offer user protection and point refunds? Well, why are 8 of us making the same complaint, and not getting a refund? Even a partial refund? Who knows how many others won't speak up?
Yes, I took proper precautions, as did the others, and still look what happened. And yet we're told we're wrong for wanting Goozex to protect us. Complain, and we're further victimized for it. And why not? We're showing a serious flaw that Goozex won't even address, and we can't have that. Goozex must be seen as infalliable.
I'm wrong in piointing out it's imperfections and wanring people to stay away? What I, and others, experienced is just a rare occurrance? Use it again, and they'll be no problems? Well who among you will assume Goozex's debt? Surely such a noble and trustworthy site has allowed you to rack up more than enough points and trade credits? Gift me the 200 points and trade credit Goozex won't and let me see that a successful trade is possible. Your donation is easily replenished, no? All it takes is but one of you. If Goozex is so great, I'll get my trade as promised, and won't ever talk smack about precious Goozex again. How could I? I'll have no complaints. Surely I'll just praise and praise and praise it, and attack anybody who says otherwise. Forgive me for not waiting with baited breath for someone to ask for my user name there, and protect Goozex's good name. Kerig, feel free to post this is the scam you magically predicted, since you're now psychic, despite being anything but a scam in any way, shape, or form. Got to help you to at least appear like you were making any sense with the Ather is a scam crack. Hope you didn't rack your brain coming up with that one, poor thing.
So, as Goozex does not follow through on protecting it's members, and it is not the perfect, infallible site it claims to be, I will continue my duty of warning people of the hidden dark side Goozex choses to ignore. I only wish someone would have warned me. I'd never have joined, and we would not be here today. You can thank Goozex for that. See how it continues to ruin people's good times? Yet another reason Goozex isn't the greatest thing since slice bread.
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It's very simple. I had 2 games I had no need for. They were collecting dust, taking up room. What to do with them? Sell on eBay? No, eBay is too risky now that winners no longer have to pay. Trade them? No, no viable trade site. I'm certainly never using Goozex again. They showed me their true colors. Only choice left is garbage.
Complaining about no shoulder to cry on? no, I used Goozex, and was ripped off. Goozex won't do anything about it, like they say they will. There is no protection in place. 7 others had the same problem. All of us posted within 2 months time. That's not saying much,. What did Goozex do? Nothing. We suggested ways to avoid such situations later, yet Goozex still refuses to adopt any policies. If a site says they offe ruse prrotection, and doesn't, and people are complaining about the same thing, that is a legitimate complaint. And an error in the site that should be addressed. Yet, still Goozex refuses to. That's not what a good site does. That's what a scam site does. They out right lied and said they offer user protection and point refunds? Well, why are 8 of us making the same complaint, and not getting a refund? Even a partial refund? Who knows how many others won't speak up?
Yes, I took proper precautions, as did the others, and still look what happened. And yet we're told we're wrong for wanting Goozex to protect us. Complain, and we're further victimized for it. And why not? We're showing a serious flaw that Goozex won't even address, and we can't have that. Goozex must be seen as infalliable.
I'm wrong in piointing out it's imperfections and wanring people to stay away? What I, and others, experienced is just a rare occurrance? Use it again, and they'll be no problems? Well who among you will assume Goozex's debt? Surely such a noble and trustworthy site has allowed you to rack up more than enough points and trade credits? Gift me the 200 points and trade credit Goozex won't and let me see that a successful trade is possible. Your donation is easily replenished, no? All it takes is but one of you. If Goozex is so great, I'll get my trade as promised, and won't ever talk smack about precious Goozex again. How could I? I'll have no complaints. Surely I'll just praise and praise and praise it, and attack anybody who says otherwise. Forgive me for not waiting with baited breath for someone to ask for my user name there, and protect Goozex's good name. Kerig, feel free to post this is the scam you magically predicted, since you're now psychic, despite being anything but a scam in any way, shape, or form. Got to help you to at least appear like you were making any sense with the Ather is a scam crack. Hope you didn't rack your brain coming up with that one, poor thing.
So, as Goozex does not follow through on protecting it's members, and it is not the perfect, infallible site it claims to be, I will continue my duty of warning people of the hidden dark side Goozex choses to ignore. I only wish someone would have warned me. I'd never have joined, and we would not be here today. You can thank Goozex for that. See how it continues to ruin people's good times? Yet another reason Goozex isn't the greatest thing since slice bread.
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[quote name='Ather']The games are fine. I just had no more need for them, and hit a slump of nonpayers in eBay (thanks to their new no seller can neg feedback rules)[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Ather']It's very simple. I had 2 games I had no need for. They were collecting dust, taking up room. What to do with them? Sell on eBay? No, eBay is too risky now that winners no longer have to pay. Trade them? No, no viable trade site. I'm certainly never using Goozex again. They showed me their true colors. Only choice left is garbage.
There is no protection in place. 7 others had the same problem. All of us posted within 2 months time. That's not saying much,. What did Goozex do? Nothing. We suggested ways to avoid such situations later, yet Goozex still refuses to adopt any policies.[/QUOTE]
Dude, seriously. Either stop blowing smoke and explain what your 'problem' was, or just shut the up and stop wasting everyone's time. I guarantee that if you stopped coming in hear screaming to the Heavens that Goozex is scheming to rape our children and actually explained how they supposedly dicked you, you'd get a lot more people who might feel sympathy towards you. Instead, you just say that you have 2 games you don't need so you threw them out. You also say the games are fine. They arrived, they were undamaged, and they were in your possession before the end of the 21-day feedback closeout. Don't come in here bitching about a service the majority of users have never had a problem with and then declare the only way you'll stop is if we gift you points so you can 'try again'. Tell us what happened and then we'll talk. Until that time, just shut the up.
[quote name='Ather']It's very simple. I had 2 games I had no need for. They were collecting dust, taking up room. What to do with them? Sell on eBay? No, eBay is too risky now that winners no longer have to pay. Trade them? No, no viable trade site. I'm certainly never using Goozex again. They showed me their true colors. Only choice left is garbage.
There is no protection in place. 7 others had the same problem. All of us posted within 2 months time. That's not saying much,. What did Goozex do? Nothing. We suggested ways to avoid such situations later, yet Goozex still refuses to adopt any policies.[/QUOTE]
Dude, seriously. Either stop blowing smoke and explain what your 'problem' was, or just shut the
up and stop wasting everyone's time. I guarantee that if you stopped coming in hear screaming to the Heavens that Goozex is scheming to rape our children and actually explained how they supposedly dicked you, you'd get a lot more people who might feel sympathy towards you. Instead, you just say that you have 2 games you don't need so you threw them out. You also say the games are fine. They arrived, they were undamaged, and they were in your possession before the end of the 21-day feedback closeout. Don't come in here bitching about a service the majority of users have never had a problem with and then declare the only way you'll stop is if we gift you points so you can 'try again'. Tell us what happened and then we'll talk. Until that time, just shut the up.
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Still enjoying Goozex immensely (although someone wouldn't cancel my trade for Soul Bubbles 
) and now they've introduced Gift Cards. I believe this was the last thing CAG'ers wanted, correct? It'd be even better if you could use your points and give them to other users, but at least this is a step in the right direction.
) and now they've introduced Gift Cards. I believe this was the last thing CAG'ers wanted, correct? It'd be even better if you could use your points and give them to other users, but at least this is a step in the right direction.
you know the site has problems when every single goozex thread turns into this. i have problems with them in the past.
right now the biggest one i have is them giving away points for free signups. they get a free game, while nobody really gets anything back for it anymore. then the guy you sent the game with doesnt leave you a feedback. so after receiving the game, they've gone awol. ive had so many of these idiots. i really hate to say that giving away points and giving a free game just to get people in the game isn't a very good idea anymore. its broken and it should be fixed.
right now the biggest one i have is them giving away points for free signups. they get a free game, while nobody really gets anything back for it anymore. then the guy you sent the game with doesnt leave you a feedback. so after receiving the game, they've gone awol. ive had so many of these idiots. i really hate to say that giving away points and giving a free game just to get people in the game isn't a very good idea anymore. its broken and it should be fixed.
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What do you care what somebody does with a game after you sell it to them? They have their game, you have their points, and the transaction ends. So what if they never come back?
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right now the biggest one i have is them giving away points for free signups. they get a free game, while nobody really gets anything back for it anymore. then the guy you sent the game with doesnt leave you a feedback. so after receiving the game, they've gone awol. ive had so many of these idiots. i really hate to say that giving away points and giving a free game just to get people in the game isn't a very good idea anymore. its broken and it should be fixed.[/quote]
The way I work around this is to screen the user before accepting the trade. Generally, if the user doesn't have any prior transactions I won't accept the trade. That way you don't have to risk sending out the game and never getting a feedback response. You may have to hold on to your game a little bit longer to find another user, but at 100 points it's not like the value of that game is going to go any lower.
I would recommend looking at a user's past transactions before proceeding with ANY trades as you can get a decent idea through feedback/user comments about what to expect in terms of shipping/condition/anything else.
right now the biggest one i have is them giving away points for free signups. they get a free game, while nobody really gets anything back for it anymore. then the guy you sent the game with doesnt leave you a feedback. so after receiving the game, they've gone awol. ive had so many of these idiots. i really hate to say that giving away points and giving a free game just to get people in the game isn't a very good idea anymore. its broken and it should be fixed.[/quote]
The way I work around this is to screen the user before accepting the trade. Generally, if the user doesn't have any prior transactions I won't accept the trade. That way you don't have to risk sending out the game and never getting a feedback response. You may have to hold on to your game a little bit longer to find another user, but at 100 points it's not like the value of that game is going to go any lower.
I would recommend looking at a user's past transactions before proceeding with ANY trades as you can get a decent idea through feedback/user comments about what to expect in terms of shipping/condition/anything else.
I've also had no problems whatsoever with goozex. Have traded 27-28 games with no issues, got positive feedback promptly on every one. And have received 6 or 7 games with no problems.
Need to start spending more points though as I have 8,000 on my account. Will try to pick up some of the big fall games early next year and get my balance down some. I worry about keeping it up as I imagine it's all lost if the company goes out of business in the future.
Need to start spending more points though as I have 8,000 on my account. Will try to pick up some of the big fall games early next year and get my balance down some. I worry about keeping it up as I imagine it's all lost if the company goes out of business in the future.
Probably not, but you never know.
Additionally, I just want to generally wind down my points by the end of this generation. I'll be even busier than I already am when I start my new job next summer so I'm really not sure if I'll be doing much (if any) gaming after that and into next generation. When my free time shrinks, gaming is the first thing that gets cut back as it's pretty much at the bottom of my hobby list.
I should probably start selling games I don't want after beating rather than Goozexing them I suppose.
Additionally, I just want to generally wind down my points by the end of this generation. I'll be even busier than I already am when I start my new job next summer so I'm really not sure if I'll be doing much (if any) gaming after that and into next generation. When my free time shrinks, gaming is the first thing that gets cut back as it's pretty much at the bottom of my hobby list.
I should probably start selling games I don't want after beating rather than Goozexing them I suppose.
[quote name='punkmaggit']It'd be even better if you could use your points and give them to other users, but at least this is a step in the right direction.[/quote]
If Goozex allowed this, then some users would sell their points to other users, which is against the rules.
This could also facilitate trading out of turn. Let's say I have Prince of Persia, which has over 100 requests and I'm ready to trade it. You're first in line to receive it, and my good friend Renaissance is last in line. He could just donate a 1000 points to me, and I could send him the game. It wouldn't be fair to you or anyone else in front of him. It wouldn't be fair to Goozex either, since Renaissance wouldn't have to use a trade credit.
If Goozex allowed this, then some users would sell their points to other users, which is against the rules.
This could also facilitate trading out of turn. Let's say I have Prince of Persia, which has over 100 requests and I'm ready to trade it. You're first in line to receive it, and my good friend Renaissance is last in line. He could just donate a 1000 points to me, and I could send him the game. It wouldn't be fair to you or anyone else in front of him. It wouldn't be fair to Goozex either, since Renaissance wouldn't have to use a trade credit.
[quote name='Renaissance 2K']What do you care what somebody does with a game after you sell it to them? They have their game, you have their points, and the transaction ends. So what if they never come back?[/quote]if they never cameback, then someone just took advantage of the fact that they're giving away a free game just to get a sign-up. if this happens 6 or more out of 10, then there's something wrong with the system. i believe that more than 7 of the 10 people that i traded a free game to never came back. theres less games in the pool and more points being thrown in. the word 'inflation' always comes to mind.
Renaissance 2K
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A legitimate user can do the same thing by buying 100 points, receiving a game, and never trading it back again. I've done that on multiple occasions when I see a cheapy on my list is going unwanted.
If that's not dangerous to the system, then neither is the free points promotion. Honestly, Goozex wouldn't have kept up the promotion this long if it was causing them to come apart at the seams. I joined in April, and they've only gotten better in terms of their features and the way they manage feedback and nasty users.
Leave business to the businessmen.
If that's not dangerous to the system, then neither is the free points promotion. Honestly, Goozex wouldn't have kept up the promotion this long if it was causing them to come apart at the seams. I joined in April, and they've only gotten better in terms of their features and the way they manage feedback and nasty users.
Leave business to the businessmen.
I've had nothing but good experiences with goozex. Most of the games I recieve are in excellent shape and users frequently leave me tips for the games I trade do to the condition of them.
I've gotten many rarer games off them and I highly suggest them. The other game trading site I use is www.gametz.com where I have 577 trades. Highly suggest checking it out.
I've gotten many rarer games off them and I highly suggest them. The other game trading site I use is www.gametz.com where I have 577 trades. Highly suggest checking it out.
rickonker
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[quote name='Renaissance 2K']A legitimate user can do the same thing by buying 100 points, receiving a game, and never trading it back again. I've done that on multiple occasions when I see a cheapy on my list is going unwanted.
If that's not dangerous to the system, then neither is the free points promotion. Honestly, Goozex wouldn't have kept up the promotion this long if it was causing them to come apart at the seams. I joined in April, and they've only gotten better in terms of their features and the way they manage feedback and nasty users.
Leave business to the businessmen.[/QUOTE]
Actually, phear3d is right that something is wrong, but everyone with goozex points is getting screwed, not just him. It happens gradually so a lot of people may not understand what is going on. The scenario you mentioned is the same. This was discussed on CAG a long time ago I believe.
If that's not dangerous to the system, then neither is the free points promotion. Honestly, Goozex wouldn't have kept up the promotion this long if it was causing them to come apart at the seams. I joined in April, and they've only gotten better in terms of their features and the way they manage feedback and nasty users.
Leave business to the businessmen.[/QUOTE]
Actually, phear3d is right that something is wrong, but everyone with goozex points is getting screwed, not just him. It happens gradually so a lot of people may not understand what is going on. The scenario you mentioned is the same. This was discussed on CAG a long time ago I believe.
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