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Dell 4700

Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 w/HT Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB)
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M)
Keyboard Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582] 4
Monitor 19 inch Ultrasharp™ 1905FP Digital Flat Panel 1905FP
Video Cards Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 IV
Internal Hard Drives 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)

769-100 MIR =$ 669

i have a few questions?

will i have trouble upgrading this PC? i would like to put a dvd burner in later in the future

also, i think i will upgrade graphics card, any problems, or any recommendations for cards?

anything else i should know about this pc

thanks so much
 
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I would suggest waiting for another sale. They seem to have them at least twice a year. I was able to get a significantly better computer for only 140 more.

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It was 3.2 ghz, GeForce 6800, 1024 megs of ram, and a dvd burner.
 
It's not a bad deal. Upgrading it should not be that difficult, but I suggest waiting and watching slickdeals or fatwallet for Dell coupons and sales.
 
www.gotapex.com probably has Dell deals listed every single day. Check them out, too.

Dell has been having these mega-coupon sales lately, something like $750 off a $1500 computer. If you really want a Dell, I'd wait for one of those sales if you can be patient.
 
[quote name='yeah-yeah']www.gotapex.com probably has Dell deals listed every single day. Check them out, too.

Dell has been having these mega-coupon sales lately, something like $750 off a $1500 computer. If you really want a Dell, I'd wait for one of those sales if you can be patient.[/QUOTE]

They overprice those configs to make up the difference. The $750 off is only good if they have some lappies that fall just under the min. mark.

[quote name='darkshadows6000']It's not a bad deal. Upgrading it should not be that difficult, but I suggest waiting and watching slickdeals or fatwallet for Dell coupons and sales.[/QUOTE]

This deal is posted front page at Slickdeals and FW. Probably how he found it. :lol:

*Edit* Just worked up his exact config and got the exact same price so I was right. ;)
 
[quote name='darkshadows6000']It's not a bad deal. Upgrading it should not be that difficult, but I suggest waiting and watching slickdeals or fatwallet for Dell coupons and sales.[/QUOTE]

This deal is posted front page at Slickdeals and FW. Probably how he found it. :lol:
 
Ok, I had my fun, now to the OP's questions
[quote name='Mind_n_Soul']Dell 4700

Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 w/HT Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB)
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M)
Keyboard Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582] 4
Monitor 19 inch Ultrasharp™ 1905FP Digital Flat Panel 1905FP
Video Cards Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 IV
Internal Hard Drives 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)

769-100 MIR =$ 669[/quote]

This is a pretty darn good deal. Not the hottest Dell gets but Id say its going to be the warmest for awhile. (typically end of quarters are "deal time")

[quote name='Mind_n_Soul']i have a few questions?

will i have trouble upgrading this PC? i would like to put a dvd burner in later in the future[/quote]

Heck no. DVD burner is no problem at all and this PC is one of the more upgradable dells. (dont TOUCH the 3000! Bleck!)

[quote name='Mind_n_Soul']also, i think i will upgrade graphics card, any problems, or any recommendations for cards?[/quote]

You wont have a problem. Its got a PCI-E slot. Thats the newest graphics interface there is (and will someday be the standard) The only *issue* is since its the newest of the bunch, its also the most expensive. Not outragous but a similar card AGP will almost always cost less.

Recommending a card without knowing what you want to spend and what you hope to do with it is impossible.

[quote name='Mind_n_Soul']
anything else i should know about this pc[/quote]
Very solid PC. Wont ever be :drool: ed over by the pc geek set but it is an excellent price to value PC.

The monitor isnt hot for gaming, even the ultrasharp. Fast action will drive you mad. If you plan to game with any regularity, downgrade to the EP (the free one), sell it for $250 (easy to do) and buy yourself a good CRT. Put the leftover towards a videocard.

Harddrive upgrade you chose was pretty good since SATA isnt so cheaply found day in and day out like IDE. I like the $20 to bump to 80GB better but if you have to have a lot of storage NOW and cant wait for SATA drives to drop, +$60 isnt bad.

RAM was a good call since its DDR2 (which aint so cheap these days) and must be installed in pairs.

If you dont expect the world out of this PC (which you shouldnt since its about $500 WITH an 19" LCD) it should make you very happy. If your future plans include a lot of expansion, you should wait for an 8400 deal. (by lots I mean well over 1GB of RAM, A few HDs, Multiple DVD/CDR drives, every hot new game at the highest rates possible,etc)
 
Personaly, I'd leave dell alone.When they first came out, they were good computers, but now, they use the cheapest mass produced crap on the market -Before the flaming starts, i kinow 6 people with new dells and all have had them die many times in months under light use. even had one in my house (room mate) that died 3 times ina months right after buying it- Go with an e-machine if your looking to save some cash and get a decent rig. Depending on what you have, you may be able to overhaul your current system for around the same price, maybe a little over/under. SATA drives are cheap-walmart stocks a 160gig for 140,Seagate, or pricewatch shows a 200 gig seagate baracuda for 113. You can also find 1gig ddr for around 100 bucks, at 400 mhz-ecc will be a little more. Shop arpund, but as a builder and repairer- IMO, stay away from dell
 
[quote name='Shadows916']Personaly, I'd leave dell alone.When they first came out, they were good computers, but now, they use the cheapest mass produced crap on the market -Before the flaming starts, i kinow 6 people with new dells and all have had them die many times in months under light use. even had one in my house (room mate) that died 3 times ina months right after buying it- Go with an e-machine if your looking to save some cash and get a decent rig. Depending on what you have, you may be able to overhaul your current system for around the same price, maybe a little over/under. SATA drives are cheap-walmart stocks a 160gig for 140,Seagate, or pricewatch shows a 200 gig seagate baracuda for 113. You can also find 1gig ddr for around 100 bucks, at 400 mhz-ecc will be a little more. Shop arpund, but as a builder and repairer- IMO, stay away from dell[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='Shadows916']Personaly, I'd leave dell alone.When they first came out, they were good computers, but now, they use the cheapest mass produced crap on the market -Before the flaming starts, i kinow 6 people with new dells and all have had them die many times in months under light use. even had one in my house (room mate) that died 3 times ina months right after buying it- Go with an e-machine if your looking to save some cash and get a decent rig. Depending on what you have, you may be able to overhaul your current system for around the same price, maybe a little over/under. SATA drives are cheap-walmart stocks a 160gig for 140,Seagate, or pricewatch shows a 200 gig seagate baracuda for 113. You can also find 1gig ddr for around 100 bucks, at 400 mhz-ecc will be a little more. Shop arpund, but as a builder and repairer- IMO, stay away from dell[/QUOTE]

I've had mine for right around 6 months, and get this leave it on every day, all day and all night, and get this, no problems.... one thinks it might be the user's causing the problems...

Dell makes a great machine, they use name brand products with name brand warrenties and you shouldn't have any problems, and hell if you do have a problem they'll fix it very easily.
 
We always buy from the Dell Outlet. I replace my computer about every 12-18 months and my wife gets a different one about every 24-30 months. Our last 7 computers have been purchased from the Dell Outlet and we have only had one problem which Dell went FAR beyond what I expected of them to fix it. Several friends and co-workers have also gotten computers from Dell Outlet and none of them have had any problems either. Dell sells so many systems that of course there are bound to be problems with some, but I will continue to buy from them.
 
quote: (dont TOUCH the 3000! Bleck!)


Don't tell me the 3000 also only have PCI slots like the Dimension 2000 series. It's just ridiculous that they were selling newer computers without an AGP slot (just regular ole PCI slots). I've preached against this to many people I know, especially when they call or email me asking me why Halo won't work on their Dimension 2400. Dell really screwed customers on that one, especially when they were pushing the "upgradeability" of their systems. In terms of production costs, putting in a next-step up Intel motherboard (Dell uses intel motherboards if I remember correctly) is only a few dollars' difference
 
[quote name='Moxio']Not a good deal. You could get a much stronger system with custom-built.[/QUOTE]

You sir, have been challenged to a duel..

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Ive chosen my weapon. It is as follows...

Dimension 4700 Qty 1
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 w/HT Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition Unit Price $1,098.00
Save $479 on select Dimension™ 4700 desktops through Dell Small Business!
Special Offer
- $479.00
Catalog Number: 4

Module Description Product Code Sku Id
Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 520 w/HT Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB)
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory 256MB DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (1x256M)
Keyboard Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK
Monitor 19 inch E193FP Analog Flat Panel
Video Cards Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900 IV
Internal Hard Drives 40GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Floppy Drive and Memory Keys No Floppy Drive Included
Mouse Dell 2-button scroll mouse SM
Network Interface Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN
Modem No Modem Requested
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
CD or DVD Drives -- Read, Write and Store Data Single Drive: 48X CD-ROM Drive
Sound Card Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio
Productivity Software Pre-Installed- Corel WordPerfect® word processor only
Security Software Pre-Installed (3 month trial)
Digital Music Musicmatch® Jukebox Basic
Digital Photography Photo Album™ SE Basic DPS
Dell Service & Support Plans No Extended On-site Service, Support or Ltd Warranty
Onsite System Setup - no
Internet Access Services 6 Months of America Online Membership Included
Mail- In Rebate $100 Mail In Rebate
Financial Software Pre-Installed - Includes limited use trial

TOTAL: $619.00

-$100.00 MIR (see above)
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$519.00

Sell: 19 inch E193FP Analog Flat Panel (its easily done as I myself am selling one and have been flooded with offers) for $250 or more.

$519.00
- $250.00
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Final Total for the PC $269.00

And to help you in your efforts, I Pricegrabbed JUST the processor for you.

Intel P4 520 800FSB

$166.99 at New Egg. So you have $102.01 to cover all the other parts and their shipping (probably from different places)

OH, and I wont make you deduct for your own build it time (it can be "hobby time") nor match any of the software extras like free aol for 6 months,free trials of other programs, etc. Just match Windows XP and Word Perfect.

Also, since my build doesnt use anything I have "lying around" yours cannot either.

And remember your statement...

[quote name='Moxio']Not a good deal. You could get a much stronger system with custom-built.[/QUOTE]

So the rig you build has to be noticeably better than mine (to offset the time and trouble of shopping the parts then assembling them)

I cant wait to see what you come up with! (no sarcasm, honestly., It would be fascinating to see how I could be beaten because I just dont see it.)
 
I think thats a great deal on the Dell, considering the monitor alone runs about $400. Its a great monitor and a decent PC. i'd go for it.
 
[quote name='Tromack']^^^
Someone just got told.[/QUOTE]

Nah, actually that wasnt my intent. Im really eager to see if indeed I CAN be beat.

I am in no way suggesting this computer is the best for everyone. What I am saying its a damn good deal for a lot of people (hardcore gamers or media/audiophiles need not apply)

And not to show off, but I could show you the deal I made on my 8400. (receipts as proof) Youd swallow your tongue. It was that good.
 
[quote name='flizmo007']I think thats a great deal on the Dell, considering the monitor alone runs about $400. Its a great monitor and a decent PC. i'd go for it.[/QUOTE]


you can get a much better monitor for around 260 at BB- a samsung or toshiba. As for the one who wanted to "Duel"-think about this. Everyting looks like it's coming intergrated-sound,graphics ect ect-SCREW THAT. You can get a creative labs Live! 5.1 sound card for 25 bucks that'll blow the stock dell away- intergrated graphics? why bother? it just plain blows, probebly running 64mb to 128mb wich means it'll have to access the hdd a lot,and have a really REALLY low frame rate. 40 gig hdd? even if it is SATA, 40 gig doesn't hold shit when your OS takes up around 3-5 gig, games take from 1-4 gig depending and any thing else you want/need on the system. the only thing it has good is built in either 10/100- no LAN built in though. Comes with a bunch of software-shareware versions/trials for stuff not a lot of people use. a 48x cd-rom? get real, unless you like ripping from disc to hdd, then burning from hdd to cd. 256 mem? even if it is ddr2, sdram still runs slower then ddr dimm and other moduels. and a lot of the games out recomend 512 for best results. this dell can stock 2 gig total-no duel channel. 2 gig is nothing to sneeze at, but i'll stick with 4 gig duel channel.So in the end, to get this "Bargain Dell" up to par to be of much use,you need to upgrade thr graphics card, add another rom drive-and what's this? no floppy? your SATA drivers come on a floppy for that wonderfull 40 gig monster hdd. Have fun installing that when you re-format unless by chance you can get your hands on the drivers on cd. Also found your CPU for 140 at star micro. That cpu is better off in a better board-try an Abit or Asus or even a ASRock wich can make use of it. So in the end, the only good thing is the monitor- the computer right out of the box needs an overhaul to handle anything good. For around 800 you can build a monster machine that'll handle just about anything (built my mother's for 550 that crushes this dell). When you get spare cash, you can upgrade things. Building your own is not that hard, motherboards come with charts that tell you step by step were everything goes.
 
side not-not intending to sound bitchy or anything-i just hate dell's. i will not work on them anymore after seeing some of the cheap parts they have used. For some they are what they need, but for others like myself, they just do not stand up. I'd still recomend picking up an e-machine if you can't afford to build your own or have one built.
 
[quote name='Shadows916']you can get a much better monitor for around 260 at BB- a samsung or toshiba. As for the one who wanted to "Duel"-think about this. Everyting looks like it's coming intergrated-sound,graphics ect ect-SCREW THAT. You can get a creative labs Live! 5.1 sound card for 25 bucks that'll blow the stock dell away- intergrated graphics? why bother? it just plain blows, probebly running 64mb to 128mb wich means it'll have to access the hdd a lot,and have a really REALLY low frame rate. 40 gig hdd? even if it is SATA, 40 gig doesn't hold shit when your OS takes up around 3-5 gig, games take from 1-4 gig depending and any thing else you want/need on the system. the only thing it has good is built in either 10/100- no LAN built in though. Comes with a bunch of software-shareware versions/trials for stuff not a lot of people use. a 48x cd-rom? get real, unless you like ripping from disc to hdd, then burning from hdd to cd. 256 mem? even if it is ddr2, sdram still runs slower then ddr dimm and other moduels. and a lot of the games out recomend 512 for best results. this dell can stock 2 gig total-no duel channel. 2 gig is nothing to sneeze at, but i'll stick with 4 gig duel channel.So in the end, to get this "Bargain Dell" up to par to be of much use,you need to upgrade thr graphics card, add another rom drive-and what's this? no floppy? your SATA drivers come on a floppy for that wonderfull 40 gig monster hdd. Have fun installing that when you re-format unless by chance you can get your hands on the drivers on cd. Also found your CPU for 140 at star micro. That cpu is better off in a better board-try an Abit or Asus or even a ASRock wich can make use of it. So in the end, the only good thing is the monitor- the computer right out of the box needs an overhaul to handle anything good. For around 800 you can build a monster machine that'll handle just about anything (built my mother's for 550 that crushes this dell). When you get spare cash, you can upgrade things. Building your own is not that hard, motherboards come with charts that tell you step by step were everything goes.[/QUOTE]

My point was to make a very stark contrast to those who said "this deal sucks!!! build"

If you look at the OPs original config and my follow up responses, you are able to upgrade just about everything you mentioned for very reasonable rates. The trick to Dell has always been skip the bloat, buy the reasonable.

You build a rig for $550 that CRUSHES this Dell. You damn well should have since you had $280 MORE DOLLARS to use than I did for my config. In fact, you spent more EXTRA money than I spent on the WHOLE fuck ing PC. :lol:

You will not get disagreement from me that this machine tops out at a certain level. Yes, it would be hard to take this unit, add extras making my total $800 and achieve a better PC than what I could build. But this is where most builders (who tend to be a bit elitist) fuck up. MOST PEOPLE DONT NEED A MONSTER RIG!!! People will project THEIR needs on the masses and go to town crapping on pretty damn good deals for the bulk of the population.

Could I be happy with a 4700? No, thats why I dont own one. Do I impose my PC "beliefs" on others who more than likely dont share mine? Heck no.

This thread was about one thing, is this a good deal or not. YES it is a good deal and for a lot of people. Will this PC ever run SLI and HLife 2 at its fullest capabilities, no. But what percentage of the PC user base needs that and can justify dumping the cash needed to do that? Its a microscopic percentage.

This PC wont work for you, fine. Guess what? It wont work for my tastes either. But it darn well looks like it ll satisfy everything the OP asked for and with upgrades, with gusto.

Anyone whos serious about PCs wouldnt need our advice as to "is this a good deal or not" They shop parts all the darn time. This pc obviously doest fit those types of people.

So I believe my original assumption about his needs and my overall assesment of the deal FOR HIM is correct. Ill stand by it without any doubt or question.

I rest my case.
 
I in no way will say Dell parts are > than hand selected parts. But for the cost (if you buy a dell on a great dell) they are fine, even good to great at times.

Anybody who uses a PC in a heavy capacity/high load manner would be better served to build a pc exactly suited to their usage and need. But the number of people who PC like this vs. the mass that owns PCs is relatively small.

If you drive a lot of miles in snow you buy snow tires. If you live in sunny florida , you buy another. Same goes for PCs. Just as its wasteful to spend to spend the extra money for the extra traction snow tires provide you ll never use (in Fla) its wasteful to spend money on better components that wont ever be loaded anywhere near their failure point.

*Side note* I and many people I know have had nothing but trouble with emachines. Not saying youre right or wrong, just showing how different computer experences can be (Dell,Emachine,or otherwise)
 
And since I pretty much never know when to shut the fuck up...

The monitor aint so hot. FREE its hot, buying it yourself isnt. S E L L it. Buy a nice CRT if you want to game/fast action/etc. Add $50 and upgrade to the USharp if you are mostly doing "desk work"
 
the early e-machines yes, were crap i'll agree. the newier ones hold up pretty damn well. As for my rant before, i didn't mean to impose my views on him. i was just trying to point out that depsite the price, it's not gonna hold up for long before you have to dump more $$ into when he should have waited for a better deal, or build his own. What "The Beast" can do, I don't even use 1/4 of it's power-just got really great deals on parts so i went with it. But after openeing up a dell for a friend and finding "white label" parts (i.e. house brand and low grade), i stopped working on dells. But as to the OP- wait as the other's have suggested for a better sale, and try to avoid intergrated graphics since that will cause problems with games. Pointers: Look for at least a 2.8 either P4 or athlon equel (then no worries for while about the system requirments for things). 512 mem is great-either 333 or 400 mhz intergrated sound is alright as long as you don't need somethign specail. Try and find a graphics card thats included running 256mb-you'll be glad. Hope this helps
 
[quote name='Shadows916']the early e-machines yes, were crap i'll agree. the newier ones hold up pretty damn well. As for my rant before, i didn't mean to impose my views on him. i was just trying to point out that depsite the price, it's not gonna hold up for long before you have to dump more $$ into when he should have waited for a better deal, or build his own. What "The Beast" can do, I don't even use 1/4 of it's power-just got really great deals on parts so i went with it. But after openeing up a dell for a friend and finding "white label" parts (i.e. house brand and low grade), i stopped working on dells. But as to the OP- wait as the other's have suggested for a better sale, and try to avoid intergrated graphics since that will cause problems with games. Pointers: Look for at least a 2.8 either P4 or athlon equel (then no worries for while about the system requirments for things). 512 mem is great-either 333 or 400 mhz intergrated sound is alright as long as you don't need somethign specail. Try and find a graphics card thats included running 256mb-you'll be glad. Hope this helps[/QUOTE]

Excellent points. Yes, my emachines experence is from awhile ago so its dated to say the least.

Dell is an incredible company. (love em or hate em, they are) They have a very broad spectrum of PCs and really can meet almost any need.

Take the current line... any desktop under the 4700 is, at best, an email and some other menial tasks type machine. These machines use cheap parts but they are cheap machines.

Then you have the XPS, way overpriced IMHO but it can satisfy the gaming lust of many. (fools with money and little PC knowledge)

In between those are many offerings suiting higher and lower needs.

Buying a Dell is very much like buying a car. You can easily underbuy or overbuy if you arent careful/knowledgable. People get mad at certain offerings because of what selection dell makes as to sockets/upgradability/etc. But if you think about it, cars are the same way.

I can buy a Chevy Malibu then decide I want to throw tons of cash into it and make it an off road warrior. It CAN be done to a point but it still will never be a hummer. Is it the dealers fault I selected a car not well suited for MY purpose or mine for not understanding my own needs,reseaching and buying properly? Dell is a buisness, not a hand holding service. Yes, they will do the best to help you find the right PC for you but its up to you to be clear on what you want/need. If you supersize your meal but werent hungry enough to eat it, is the burger joint to blame merely for OFFERING supersizing? Or what if you DIDNT supersize and were starving. Again, are they to blame?

Personal responsibilty for ones decisions is very lacking in society these days. Customer service has gone straight to hell. Combine these two and you are guaranteed problems.

Dell is not evil. If you are smart, educate yourself, wait for a good deal, and run with it, I think you can make out like a bandit. (*cough*owner of a $300 8400*cough*)

I know what my Dell is and isnt. I know what a Malibu and a Hummer are and are not. This knowledge helps me get the right stuff for me for as little as possible.
 
I agree with the intigrated stuff. Upgrade the soundcard/videocard with dell if it cant be done cheaper elsewhere. This really can be said about any of the options. I went over the list earlier of what I felt was good bang for the buck upgrades. You WONT be happy with the basics but just because we say leave something out, doesnt mean dont get it elsewhere.

Video/Audio/HDdrive/RAM all seem to be needing help. If Dell has 'em cheap, buy dell. If not, buy elsewhere and install.
 
To the idiot who said Dells are junk.........

I got a Dell Dimension 8300 about a year and a half ago when they were having crazy deals on jacked up systems like once or twice a month. It runs 24/7/365 and is stable as a rock, it came with integrated sound/video but i replaced that with good stuff. It came P4 3GHz 800FSB, 1 gig ram and 80 hard drive. Within the past couple monthes i've added another 140 gig hd, a dvd burner and 52X cd burner. I paid around $650 for it with tax and shipping, heck i thought i got a good deal but some people were getting monitors included for the same price depending which Dell sale you'd buy from. Dells aren't cheap quality, open your case they have a very nice and upgrade friendly casing.


I built a 2nd computer and after you start adding up all you put into it(including shipping for parts, it's cheaper to buy a Dell. LOL like a couple posts up shows the processor, cheapo case and Windows XP about ate up all the cost of an entire setup from dell after you sell the monitor.
 
Wow- we have to resort to name calling? Childish now. Let's see, i think supadupa just about covered it- You either have to pay the upgrade from dell, or buy the parts yourself and install right out of the box. Either way in the end, you still have to upgrade or deal with the hurt on the system. Can your system, w/o having bought the beefed up parts, handle UT2004 out of the box? How about Farcry? or Painkiller? Should I even mention Doom 3?I'm talking best res and maxed setting here, not lowest -looks-like-genesis graphics. Not with intergrated graphics. And for your info, i spent just under 700 to start out my current comp- including tax/shipping and windows xp home. Only thing I'v changed is my graphics card (from a radeon 9600 sapphire 256 wich i got for 89.shipped new from monarch computers), added another 512mem to make a gig (31.40 shipped), and changed over from cd rom drives to a combo (35 for the cd/rw/dvd at xpcgear.com and toshiba duel 16x for 70 same place). It's called shopping around to find the best price, something you didn't seem to do. Now go to bed-Santa's watching!
 
Quite frankly, I am not a fan of dell. But their computers don't suck by any means. I would only suggest you build your own when you are going with a very, very top of the line gaming or video editing rig. We're talking Athlon64 dual core, dual 6800Ultra cards, 2GB of Corsair XMS, wicked cool custom case, etc. But for 95% of the people out there, Dell will meet or exceed what they need in a pc. I love building computers and hardware is my cup of tea, but I really have been pinched the last couple of years because I just can't compete with Dell.
 
[quote name='imamario02']Dell makes a great machine, they use name brand products with name brand warrenties and you shouldn't have any problems, and hell if you do have a problem they'll fix it very easily.[/QUOTE]

Actually, the individual parts do not carry their own warranties given by the part manufacturers. Every part carries whatever warranty you buy from Dell. Years ago I had a Western Dig hard drive fail in my Dell within 6 months after the 3 year warranty expired. Western Dig drives come with a 5 (or is it 4?) year warranty, but since this was an OEM drive shipped with a Dell machine, the standard warranty was null and void.
 
[quote name='gdw3877'] If your going high end, build your own, low-end, buy a dell when they are on sale.[/QUOTE]

Probably the most accurate thing said on this thread. Well put.
 
[quote name='yeah-yeah']Probably the most accurate thing said on this thread. Well put.[/QUOTE]

Thank you.
 
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