It feels like 2004 all over again, Senate committee approves gay marriage ban

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Senate committee approves gay marriage ban
Feingold storms out of meeting, Specter says, ‘good riddance’

WASHINGTON - — A Senate committee approved a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage Thursday, after a shouting match that ended when one Democrat strode out and the Republican chairman bid him “good riddance.”

“I don’t need to be lectured by you. You are no more a protector of the Constitution than am I,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., shouted after Sen. Russ Feingold declared his opposition to the amendment, his affinity for the Constitution and his intention to leave the meeting.

“If you want to leave, good riddance,” Specter finished.
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“I’ve enjoyed your lecture, too, Mr. Chairman,” replied Feingold, D-Wis., who is considering a run for president in 2008. “See ya.”

Passage seen as unlikely
Amid increasing partisan tension over President Bush’s judicial nominees and domestic wiretapping, the panel voted along party lines to send the constitutional amendment — which would prohibit states from recognizing same-sex marriages — to the full Senate, where it stands little chance of passing.

Democrats complained that bringing up the amendment is a purely political move designed to appeal to the GOP’s conservative base in this year of midterm elections. Under the domed ceiling of the ornate and historic President’s Room off the Senate floor, senators voted 10-8 to send the measure forward.

Among Feingold’s objections was Specter’s decision to hold the vote in the President’s Room, where access by the general public is restricted, instead of in the panel’s usual home in the Dirksen Senate Office Building.

Specter later said he would have been willing to hold the session in the usual room had he thought doing so would change votes.

Not all those who voted “yes” support the amendment, however. Specter said he is “totally opposed” to it, but felt it deserved a debate in the Senate.

“Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman,” reads the measure, which would require approval by two-thirds of Congress and three-fourths of the states.

“Neither this Constitution, nor the constitution of any State, shall be construed to require that marriage or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon any union other than the union of a man and a woman,” it says.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has scheduled a vote on the proposed amendment the week of June 5.

Political hot potato
The issue has ignited a cultural and political debate over what constitutes marriage and the legal rights of gay partners.

Earlier this week, Georgia announced it will appeal a judge’s ruling that struck down its voter-approved ban on gay marriage. Gov. Sonny Perdue said he will call a special legislative session if the state Supreme Court doesn’t rule on the issue soon.

The Georgia constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage was approved by 76 percent of the state’s voters in November 2004. On Tuesday, however, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Constance C. Russell ruled the measure violated the Georgia constitution’s single-subject rules for ballot questions.

The issue has been on the political radar across the nation for more than two years.

On Election Day in 2004, a presidential year, initiatives on gay marriage and civil unions were on the ballot in 11 states, driven in part by opposition to the Massachusetts state Supreme Judicial Court’s recognition of same-sex marriage and Republican calculations that the issue would send conservative voters to the polls.

Two states — Louisiana and Missouri — had approved bans earlier in the year.



its really sad that this little charade gets pulled out before elections just to make the masses decide their vote on one specific issue instead of the whole problem.
 
Good old Republican politics: no matter how bad things get, no matter how much you've completely fucked up every issue you've touched, you can always pander to religous homophobes and count on their vote.
 
Republicans are bringing out their 'greatest hits'

'protecting marriage'
doing away with the 'estate tax'
'defend the sanctity of human life'
'protect' the pledge of allegience, displays of the ten commandments, etc...

can't blame them really

it worked LIKE A CHARM the last time they played these cards

why not throw them against the wall and see if they stick again

i can't wait to vote in november
 
One of the more successful tactics employed by same sex marriage supporters in MA was to send married homosexual couples to each of the state congressman who had opposed, or were undecided, about same-sex marriage. Many congressman later said that meeting with those people changed their minds.

Though, supporting the issue is far from political suicide here. I doubt many of the opponents could drop their opposition to it without risking serious political ramifications. But, it wouldn't hurt to try it. Maybe you'd get one or more, if lucky.
 
A Democrat raised his voice to a Republican in the halls of Congress? Now thats news!

This has no chance of ever passing... I'll be shocked if its even voted on. Its just political games to rally support from their base. Vote for me, or the fags'll get married.
 
Just as with the judicial nominees and NSA wiretap investigations, Specter appears on the outside to be a "tough", middle-of-the-road kind of guy. But once again, we see that he has no balls of his own, and must pander to the right-wing. I hope he's the next Pennsylvanian senator to lose his job (this is a premonition that I will make after the November elections).
 
I'm still waiting for a Democrat to tag on a rider that declares divorce illegal, and includes a grandfather clause. I say go back farther than our most draconian divorce laws (up until the first decade of the 20th century, divorce was only permitted on account of the *wife's* infidelity - no other reason or scenario would lead to a divorce). Under NO circumstances would divorce be permitted, and the couples MUST live together (especially if you live in Black Jack, Missouri).

Vituperative spouses, abusive spouses, parents with substance abuse problems, husbands and wives with infidelity problems - fuck it! Marriage is sacred, so criminalize extramarital affairs! Show us you're consistent, ya fuckin' whores!

Y'know, just to be consistent with the notion that marriage is "sacred."

Massachusetts is clearly an anomaly of the nation, alonzo. Somehow I don't think Jim Bunning or Mitch McConnell would be swayed by meeting people who lead extremely normal and distrubingly mundane lives (not to mention are good spouses and parents). Y'know, because they're all weird and gay. IMO, the only way to avoid an amendment is to go whole hog and implement the stupid-ass riders I proposed, so that people can grasp how foolish they're being. Can you imagine watching someone try to declare that marriage is too sacred a bond for the homos to take part in, but still try to rationalize the permissibility of divorce!?!?! That shit should be on PayPayView it would be so funny.
 
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