Last Days Check

U2K Tha Greate$t

U2K Tha Greate$t

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Just a quick question for those who are believers.

Are you fully aware that we are living in the last days?

Just doing a check, on who is paying attention. Btw, i believe the last days started after Jesus told the disciples what to expect in the future. That makes alot of sense if you think about.
 
I was watching the View this morning and they talked about that. If it is the last days, I hope I can see God/Jesus Christ or whoever and ask "Why did you let the people that invented Soul Plane live?"
 
You know, if anyone else had said this I would have laughed my ass off. But sinc eyou said it, I just think to myself, "what a sad, sad person he is."
 
I would like to point out that OP aimed this at believers, though I doubt that won't stop this topic from becoming a flame war.

That said, as long as the last days encompass the release of the Revolution, I'm happy.

Additionally there are lots of signs left, if you happen to believe in this sort of thing. We're still quite away from Armageddon. The appearance of the anti-Christ has yet to surface, and that only happens when there's peace in the Middle East, and I personally don't see that happening for several years. Personally I'm a little on the fence ATM but meh....
 
i don't really know what that means. i'm not religious or anything.

however, i do believe shit is getting progressively more fucked up every day. we've had so many natural disasters worldwide in such a small time frame... even el nino was weak compared to all of this. i don't know, people are bad to other people too, probably worse than ever before... it's all bad news.
 
[quote name='Strell']I would like to point out that OP aimed this at believers, though I doubt that won't stop this topic from becoming a flame war.

That said, as long as the last days encompass the release of the Revolution, I'm happy.

Additionally there are lots of signs left, if you happen to believe in this sort of thing. We're still quite away from Armageddon. The appearance of the anti-Christ has yet to surface, and that only happens when there's peace in the Middle East, and I personally don't see that happening for several years.[/QUOTE]

Pssst...Bush is the antichrist ;) That's why he wants to bring peace and democracy to the middle east :lol:
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']I was watching the View this morning and they talked about that. If it is the last days, I hope I can see God/Jesus Christ or whoever and ask "Why did you let the people that invented Soul Plane live?"[/QUOTE]

Yea i hate that movie too. Ignorance all the way :)

Live?
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Oh sh**, someone remove this please. Sorry bout that.[/QUOTE]

Edit your first post to "What do you guys think of Pogs?" That way everyone else looks like a bunch of fools!
 
As long as your the first one out the door I'll be happy. Even 10 minutes on this earth without you being here will make me happy.
 
In other news, the 50 Cent movie "Get Rich or Die Tryin`" is coming out I believe mid-November. Looks good, same dudes that made 8 Mile.
 
And why do you have a smiley face with the Last Days title? I'm not a religious afficianado but isn't that bad?
 
[quote name='Strell']
Additionally there are lots of signs left, if you happen to believe in this sort of thing. We're still quite away from Armageddon. The appearance of the anti-Christ has yet to surface, and that only happens when there's peace in the Middle East, and I personally don't see that happening for several years. Personally I'm a little on the fence ATM but meh....[/QUOTE]

Islam?

ph33r m3 I have a smiley face, because armageddon is good times to me. I have nothing to worry about, cant speak for other people tho. I think the BK king might get hit first. :whistle2:#
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Islam?

ph33r m3 I have a smiley face, because armageddon is good times to me. I have nothing to worry about, cant speak for other people tho. I think the BK king might get hit first. :whistle2:#[/QUOTE]

A few things.

1. Someone will arise to bring peace to that area and hence the Earth. This has not happened yet. After it does, the man (woman?) will proclaim himself a God and force people to worship him. THAT'S when Armageddon begins.

2. Don't take this the wrong way, but no one can make a judgement on where they, or anyone else, will head to after death, assuming there are Heaven/Hell destinations. Humans are funny in that they believe they can make this call. It's entirely up to celestial forces, which is a nice way of saying God gets to decide whether or not he pwns you.

3. It won't be a good time for anyone, unless the Rapture occurs before all war-like events begin. And even then it won't be a truly fantastic event. Of course, such things are entirely up to interpretation, so I can't say much either way. But I certainly wouldn't gloat about the supposed end of days.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Islam?

ph33r m3 I have a smiley face, because armageddon is good times to me. I have nothing to worry about, cant speak for other people tho. I think the BK king might get hit first. :whistle2:#[/QUOTE]

Yeah, hell has a special spot reserved for annoying posters. You're all set U2K
 
[quote name='Strell']A few things.

1. Someone will arise to bring peace to that area and hence the Earth. This has not happened yet. After it does, the man (woman?) will proclaim himself a God and force people to worship him. THAT'S when Armageddon begins.

2. Don't take this the wrong way, but no one can make a judgement on where they, or anyone else, will head to after death, assuming there are Heaven/Hell destinations. Humans are funny in that they believe they can make this call. It's entirely up to celestial forces, which is a nice way of saying God gets to decide whether or not he pwns you.

3. It won't be a good time for anyone, unless the Rapture occurs before all war-like events begin. And even then it won't be a truly fantastic event. Of course, such things are entirely up to interpretation, so I can't say much either way. But I certainly wouldn't gloat about the supposed end of days.[/QUOTE]

Alright i am at a lost here, what faith do you have ?

Just curious. Btw, i am aware that some signs have not taken place yet, i was just wondering who is aware that we are living in the last days, thats all.
 
I was raised Christian (I guess Baptist if you have to use a word like that, but I generally just leave it as Christian).

Currently, given the status of certain things in my life, I no longer consider myself a strong Christian. Not for things I've done, but a string of events that make me question whatever faith it is I'm supposed to have. I believe this is normal and acceptable - you have to question everything, faith included. If I say anything more regarding this, I'd sound like a whiney emo idiot, so I choose to not do so and leave it simply as bitterness.

That said, I know enough to get around regarding religion. I tend to not talk about it online much because that usually leads to disaster. Given all of that, you can consider me a believer, but I cycle through periods of strong agnosticism occassionally (something I am currently doing).

This is due to things I'd rather not discuss. There's a forum member here who is aware of what I'm getting at.
 
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of No-e were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that No-e entered into the ark. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Matthew 24: 36-39
 
[quote name='Strell']I was raised Christian (I guess Baptist if you have to use a word like that, but I generally just leave it as Christian).[/QUOTE]

I am glad you understand that. :)

[quote name='Strell']Currently, given the status of certain things in my life, I no longer consider myself a strong Christian. Not for things I've done, but a string of events that make me question whatever faith it is I'm supposed to have. I believe this is normal and acceptable - you have to question everything, faith included.[/QUOTE]

I cant agree with that, i dont question a damn thing. Because i already understand it. What i'm trying to say, well i aint shocked about nothing that i see in this world, and neither should nobody else be. Bad things happen to me, but nobody or nothing is gonna make me question anything or break my faith. You cant let satan do that, because thats what he is doing, trying to make people lose their faith.

I remember when 9/11 happen, my G/F at that time woke me up. I turn on the tv right, then for some reason after i seen 2 planes fly into the building i started to cry for about 2 mins, and i say about 5 mins later. I got over it, said a pray and went on about my life. This scipture is one of the roots to understanding what is really going on in this life:

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. [/font]

[quote name='Strell'] That said, I know enough to get around regarding religion. I tend to not talk about it online much because that usually leads to disaster. Given all of that, you can consider me a believer, but I cycle through periods of strong agnosticism occassionally.

This is due to things I'd rather not discuss. There's a forum member here who is aware of what I'm getting at.[/QUOTE]

Well i think you a are good believer, and i am glad that you are paying attention. So see you in paradise buddy!

\\:D/
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']
I cant agree with that, i dont question a damn thing. Because i already understand it. What i'm trying to say, well i aint shocked about nothing that i see in this world, and neither should nobody else be. Bad things happen to me, but nobody or nothing is gonna make me question anything or break my faith. You cant let satan do that, because thats what he is doing, trying to make people lose their faith.

I remember when 9/11 happen, my G/F at that time woke me up. I turn on the tv right, then for some reason after i seen 2 planes fly into the building i started to cry for about 2 mins, and i say about 5 mins later. I got over it, said a pray and went on about my life. This scipture is one of the roots to understanding what is really going on in this life:[/QUOTE]

How authentic can yoru faith be if you don't think about it? If you haven't questioned it, what's the point? Blind faith is no better than no faith.

And the Bible is no better than Aesop's fables as a guide to this life. The Bible was written as a means to explain life as they understood it. Microscopes and the like weren't exactly common equipment back then.
 
It's not so much that I feel that belief will cause happiness, suffering, or anything. If you believe, you endure whatever is given to you, good and/or bad. That is really all anyone can do. We are all sinners, after all.

As far as the questioning thing goes, this is more of a philosophical/life knowledge/learning sort of thing. I do not consider it inherent towards belief, nor fully divorced from it. Great persons in the Bible questioned God and his actions repeatedly. Perhaps those instances are highly special, but it doesn't change the fact that they happened. I'm sure Noah, Moses, Abraham, and a slew of others questioned God. Jonah most certainly did. Perhaps doing so brings more suffering, but that is not something I can judge. Obviously God doesn't want to be questioned (or tested, for that matter). This, however, does not change human nature and the pursuit of true free will - his greatest gift to us, after all.

Given all of that, I am fully aware that my current status in terms of belief is my own doing, and that were I to be judged today, I'm sure I wouldn't like the outcome. Still this does not change the fact that I will question my faith, question my religion, and question the entirety of how my life fits into all of it and how all of it fits into my life.

There comes a time, I think, in every believer's life, where they are tested. It is too difficult at times to understand why certain things happen, and this is only complicated and multiplied by the thought that a benevolent creator wouldn't allow such tragedies to befall his child. True, Job is a counter to this, as are many others, but perhaps I'm simply not made of the same stuff he was/they were. The problems in my life stem from various sources that I have no control over and never did, and it does cause me to lash out. I will say without hesitation that I wonder why I am undergoing the current situation I am in. I understand that I should merely be happy for what I have, regardless of how happy or sad I am. I do not blame God for what I am doing - it is all my choice. I do, however, question why I am going through them. It is the classic "bad things to good people" psychosis.

Praying every day versus not. It is impossible to tell if that would change the course of things that have happened - I'm not omniscient enough to make a call on such "what if" scenarios. It is not my place to guess whether or not my faith directly impacts my life, whether or not it impacts others, or how their lives shape them. Nor can I say who is good, who is bad, and what happens to them in death. Again, we are all sinners.

In the end, I understand my actions and their consequences. How you live your life is entirely up to one person - you. There's really not much more I can say to that.

To others, grace be with you, whether you believe in it or not, and whether or not you choose to accept it. That is your call and I will respect that. I will not even ask for respect in return.
 
[quote name='Strell']I would like to point out that OP aimed this at believers, though I doubt that won't stop this topic from becoming a flame war.
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Doubtful. He's a troll. He knows almost everyone can't stand his... everything. He's posting just to make waves.


I used to go to school with a fairly religious person. He asked me something about what I'd want to do after I died. I said it'd be cool to be an angel and have wings and all that jazz. He said it was impossible. I asked him if God was all powerful and he said yes. To that I further inquired how something could not be possible for an all powerful being. If he made the universe, how could he not make one person an angel?

Silly Catholics just don't like that whole rational/logical thought process.
 
[quote name='Kayden']If he made the universe, how could he not make one person an angel?
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Not that I don't follow your logic (it is sound), it's just that the ability for him to do so doesn't preclude that he probably won't. It's still up to God afterall, aye? What makes you think you can convince him? Of course, what makes me think you can't? I dunno. You'd have to ask him. ;)

BTW this is my first step inside the vs. forums, I tend to avoid them like various plagues.
 
[quote name='Strell']Not that I don't follow your logic (it is sound), it's just that the ability for him to do so doesn't preclude that he probably won't. It's still up to God afterall, aye? What makes you think you can convince him? Of course, what makes me think you can't? I dunno. You'd have to ask him. ;)

BTW this is my first step inside the vs. forums, I tend to avoid them like various plagues.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying he should or shouldn't. I was just questioning how he said he COULDN'T do something and yet still call him an all powerful being.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']People have been saying this for years. It's just a way for religions to get more sheep in their doors on Sunday[/QUOTE]

Actually people have been saying the end of the world is coming, i just wanted to know who was aware that we are living in the last days now. Its not secret, that we are living in the last days. GOD only knows when the end will come / armageddon and all that good stuff.

I have enough faith that armageddon could come in my life time. Which i think it will, its really all about having strong faith. So i'm just sitting back waiting, while at the same thing paying attention and having fun.

I'm guessing after armageddon, the resurrection of the dead is suppose to take place, not really sure on that one or in which order. I cant wait until this tho:

2 peter chapter 3 verse 13.

\\:D/
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[quote name='evanft']The bible is good for two things: toilet paper and kindling.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to add as a Paperweight and avoiding that empty look for hotel nightstand drawers
 
[quote name='jlarlee']I'd like to add as a Paperweight and avoiding that empty look for hotel nightstand drawers[/QUOTE]

I like it.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']I'd like to add as a Paperweight and avoiding that empty look for hotel nightstand drawers[/QUOTE]
:lol: :applause:

Truthfully, the Bible teaches good lessons, but people take it way, way, way too literally. THEY'RE STORIES MEANT TO TEACH LESSONS PEOPLE!
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']:lol: :applause:

Truthfully, the Bible teaches good lessons, but people take it way, way, way too literally. THEY'RE STORIES MEANT TO TEACH LESSONS PEOPLE![/QUOTE]
Yea I agreee I don't hate the bible by any means. But it was written by man and when you add man into the mix you delude things. Who knows what was put in there just because a scribe had a personal agenda. I think it is foolish that any person can talk about what god thinks and does and say that his is the only opinion that counts. God IMO should be a personal relationship for everyone.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']When jundgement comes and I go to hell, can I be beaten by a large breasted, black haired, short, asian woman in latex?[/QUOTE]
Shit stand in line
 
[quote name='jlarlee']I'd like to add as a Paperweight and avoiding that empty look for hotel nightstand drawers[/QUOTE]

You're both wrong. To get the most mileage per bible, use the pages as hamster bedding and the cover as a frisbee.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']Yea I agreee I don't hate the bible by any means. But it was written by man and when you add man into the mix you delude things. Who knows what was put in there just because a scribe had a personal agenda. I think it is foolish that any person can talk about what god thinks and does and say that his is the only opinion that counts. God IMO should be a personal relationship for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Don't you think that people can benefit from postulating on the metaphysical - and sharing their conceptions? A personal relationship with an Abrahamic-type god would presuppose that an omnipotent, omnescient god actually cares a whit about your personal goals and problems. I think that much of the mythology in the Bible depicts a childish, violent, and hateful god, and there are also many myths whose meanings have been perverted by power-hungry politicians and corrupt church officials. However IMO there are still a few they are read with a critical and allegorical perspective.
 
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the Valley of Darkness; for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children. And, I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And, you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!
 
About the whole, no man knowing when the business is going to go down. I had thought once about the following humurous technicality. Given the billions of people that there are, there should be an internet resource, such that you put your name on the list, and it will say that the armaggedon is on lets say today. Then the next name on the list will be assigned for tomorrow, and so on and so forth. So after the 300 mil in the U.S., we're covered for a long time, since no man can no know when it is, but someone will always think its today. Hell, someone probably always thinks its today anyway.
 
[quote name='camoor']Don't you think that people can benefit from postulating on the metaphysical - and sharing their conceptions? A personal relationship with an Abrahamic-type god would presuppose that an omnipotent, omnescient god actually cares a whit about your personal goals and problems. I think that much of the mythology in the Bible depicts a childish, violent, and hateful god, and there are also many myths whose meanings have been perverted by power-hungry politicians and corrupt church officials. However IMO there are still a few they are read with a critical and allegorical perspective.[/QUOTE]

I think you blew away the reading level of about 65% of the people on this board. A good communicator makes his message accessible to as many people as possible :lol: . Anyways I don't mind people talking and theorizing. It just bugs me when they push those views on other people. Also when they beleive they are 110% correct about things and will do ridiculous leaps of logic to eliminate any outside information that may contradict their views. The thing is nobody knows for 100%. The bible doesn't prove anything. And people who are too ignorant or prideful to question themselves or beleive they have it all figured out and everybody else is morons get on my last nerve.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']I think you blew away the reading level of about 65% of the people on this board. A good communicator makes his message accessible to as many people as possible :lol: . Anyways I don't mind people talking and theorizing. It just bugs me when they push those views on other people. Also when they beleive they are 110% correct about things and will do ridiculous leaps of logic to eliminate any outside information that may contradict their views. The thing is nobody knows for 100%. The bible doesn't prove anything. And people who are too ignorant or prideful to question themselves or beleive they have it all figured out and everybody else is morons get on my last nerve.[/QUOTE]

Yup

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.
Socrates
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[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Just a quick question for those who are believers.

Are you fully aware that we are living in the last days?

Just doing a check, on who is paying attention. Btw, i believe the last days started after Jesus told the disciples what to expect in the future. That makes alot of sense if you think about.[/QUOTE]

I find that very interesting, you make a good point.

Here is a website with more discussions of the topic.
 
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