Let's Stop Pretending Like There's Parity in Mudslinging

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Off the top of my head, the past few weeks have brought the following 'scandals':

1) Obama's illegal alien of an aunt - the revelation of which is a violation of asylum laws itself
2) The "bankrupt coal" comment - which is 9 month old freely available material, and the whole of the interview is virtually indistinguishable from McCain's views on coal
3) The LA Times has video of Obama at a birthday party for Khalidi (?). I don't fully recall this one, but it's more or less the battle cry of the right saying that LAT has the 'smoking gun' for Obama's scary terrorist ties, and is deliberately witholding it.
4) Whether or not he's an American citizen or a resident of Kenya
5) If he's the love child of Malcolm X
6) His supporters are crazed, violent negroes that will carve letters of the alphabet into your face

This is, not at all, mind, getting into the "he's a terrorist/socialist/muslim" camp that performs the McCain campaign theme songs we've heard throughout this election.

So where's the mudslinging coming from the left? "McCain is inept and old?" "Sarah Palin's a goddamned idiot?"

What's coming from the left that suggests, even for a moment, that the mudslinging is on even ground here?

(to be clear, I don't think of all negative campaigning as mudslinging - putting down someone's policies is not mudslinging, but this Lee Atwater bullshit listed above that either makes shit up or liberally stretches the truth into fictitious territory? That's a different story)
 
I still can't get over how many people I heard scream out that Powell's endorsement was "just a black thing," when we've had a month of Governor Dumbass trying to cull women over to their side simply due to gender identity.

How many people would want to gut me if I said "Oh, it's just a vagina thing?"

For fuck's sake. You know when you were a kid and you had a toy you never played it until the absolute second your sibling did?

The rest of the world just thinks we're the most childish developed country in current existence, aye?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
5) If he's the love child of Malcolm X
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WHAT? Please elaborate. This one's new to me.

As far as other mudslinging goes, you're not looking very hard. And it leads me to believe you're only getting it from the mainstream media, thus, very simply, media bias.

Yeah, I just thought I'd throw that last one out there. You know, just to cheer you up.
 
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So, instead of lazily stating what appears to be obvious to you (media bias), perhaps you could provide examples of mudslinging on McCain that's akin to this?

Of course, your "media bias" is an interesting suggestion; after all, if the media is latching onto all of these idiotic claims (save for the Malcolm X one), that certainly suggests the kind of media bias that is of the not-very-liberal sort, now, isn't it?

...though I fully expect the tautological and multifaceted idiocy of the "media is liberally biased!" to suggest that the media is reporting on these alleged scandals in order to drum up sympathy for Obama and motivate liberal voters to get to the polls. Since most accusations of liberal bias (1) are post hoc and (2) are flexible enough to dance around evidence that the media is most certainly not liberal, and show that, in fact, their treatment of news that questions their liberal stance only further bolsters how much they've gone out of their way to cover up their liberal bias.

:lol:
 
Well, there are those constant ads that McCain is protege of Bush. They may entirely be a policy comparison (because I'm sure McCain is not retarded), but that's essentially the "Kiss of Death" politically. He may be similar policies to Bush, but I give McCain the credit that he will fuck up a lot less than Bush...hopefully.

~HotShotX
 
[quote name='HotShotX']Well, there are those constant ads that McCain is protege of Bush. They may entirely be a policy comparison (because I'm sure McCain is not retarded), but that's essentially the "Kiss of Death" politically. He may be similar policies to Bush, but I give McCain the credit that he will fuck up a lot less than Bush...hopefully.

~HotShotX[/quote]

I don't know. Even Buchanan has called McRage "Bush on steroids" and that he will "make Cheney look like Gandhi."

Does that count as media bias, too, broly? Even though the words came out of Pat Buchanan's mouth?


edit: Just thought I'd add this. Like myke said 99% of the dirty tricks are coming from the right. For a group of people who are supposed to stand for conserving the law, they sure love breaking it.
 
[quote name='HowStern']Does that count as media bias, too, broly? Even though the words came out of Pat Buchanan's mouth?[/quote]

Buchanan is a pinko.
 
Anyone that tries to say the media is liberally biased is a dumb ass. Plain and simple.

Where was the liberal bias when every network was covering Rev Wright? And as a counter where is the coverage of Palins crazy pastor? To me this more then any other issue shows that the media isnt biased it just bumps into a story then has a field day with it.

You can go on and on and on though with example after example like this. The left is hit just as hard if not harder then the right. The problem is that the right currently is a souless machine that only cares about 1 or 2 issues and is content to be sleeze bags to push those issues....makes it hard for the general media to NOT critic the right day in day out.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Anyone that tries to say the media is liberally biased is a dumb ass. Plain and simple.

Where was the liberal bias when every network was covering Rev Wright? And as a counter where is the coverage of Palins crazy pastor? To me this more then any other issue shows that the media isnt biased it just bumps into a story then has a field day with it.

You can go on and on and on though with example after example like this. The left is hit just as hard if not harder then the right. The problem is that the right currently is a souless machine that only cares about 1 or 2 issues and is content to be sleeze bags to push those issues....makes it hard for the general media to NOT critic the right day in day out.[/quote]

Well they tried to portray that Wright was no longer a part of Obama's life, and therefore all was well. Also, Wright was much closer to Obama than Palin's pastor was to her.

Guess what? Both parties are soulless. You can't deny it. You try to say one is and the other isn't, you're out of touch.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Well they tried to portray that Wright was no longer a part of Obama's life, and therefore all was well. Also, Wright was much closer to Obama than Palin's pastor was to her.

Guess what? Both parties are soulless. You can't deny it. You try to say one is and the other isn't, you're out of touch.[/QUOTE]

1. They covered the story non stop. Yes many mentioned he wasnt a huge part of Obamas life anymore but it doesnt change the fact that they covered it non stop. You cant complain that media has a liberal bias when they attack Dems constantly too and just as hard. The rare times stuff like the keating 5 was brought up they pointed out just as equally that it was a past issue.

2. *yawn* The Democratic party has issues.....ALOT of them. But they are not souless. They have corruption problems and too many morons yes. But when you look at Republicans and the pro big bussiness, pro big spending, pro intervention in peoples lives if its not in line with their beliefs.....its against everything the party stands....or should I say stood for. The Rep party has indeed lost its soul.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Guess what? Both parties are soulless. You can't deny it. You try to say one is and the other isn't, you're out of touch.[/QUOTE]
That's not right or fair. Both parties have members that have done awful things as well as great things. Judging a group based on the lowest common denominator doesn't do justice to those that work hard to do better for America, whether you agree with them or not.

I'm as liberal as they come, and Kay Bailey Hutchinson is one of my favorite legislators. I disagree with her on almost everything, but I think she's a quality human being doing what she can to make her world better, even as I think she's doing it wrong.

Painting with a brush as wide as yours only makes the wielder look naive and more than a bit unreasonable.
 
.... I can't wait for this election to be over. Shit, I'd even let Pelosi be president if it meant we didn't have to hear about this shit anymore.
 
I don't think it's partisan as much as it is that you see a lot of mudslinging when someone is far behind.

The exception would be the Bush campaigns as Karl Rove does nothing but mudslinging....

But if this election was closer, or if McCain was winning, I don't think we'd see so much negativity from them. It really ramped up after the post-convention/Palin bump in the polls went away and Obama started pulling away. They know they can't win on the republican party issues in this election, so their only chance is to make people too afraid to vote for Obama.
 
Yeah, something tells me it's a dangerous game to play if you're mudslinging constantly while you're ahead. I wonder if Obama would be constantly mudslinging, if the situation was reversed and he was lagging behind.
 
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