It's just a giant speaker with a dock for the iPod. I was expecting an announcement of a 16:9 iPod video or something cool. This is WEAK!!!
http://www.apple.com/ipodhifi/
http://www.apple.com/ipodhifi/
New iPod Announcement is WEAK (iPod Hi-Fi)
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I think that's really cool, actually, especially the fact that you can take it on the go. Almost makes me wish I had an iPod instead of my Zen Creative Touch.
Almost.
Almost.
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum']I think that's really cool, actually, especially the fact that you can take it on the go. Almost makes me wish I had an iPod instead of my Zen Creative Touch.
Almost.[/QUOTE]
But is that worth $350? I don't think so. I mean, where are you going to go where you don't have a electric port? Camping? Really weak sauce to me. I was hoping for some new intel ibook action, but that didn't happen.
Almost.[/QUOTE]
But is that worth $350? I don't think so. I mean, where are you going to go where you don't have a electric port? Camping? Really weak sauce to me. I was hoping for some new intel ibook action, but that didn't happen.
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The sad thing is that it'll probably sell like hotcakes.
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is
[quote name='Rozz']The sad thing is that it'll probably sell like hotcakes.
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is[/QUOTE]
There's no doubt that it will sell. Mac fanboys are ridiculous. They will buy anything that says apple. Reminds me of myself and nintendo.
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is
[/QUOTE]There's no doubt that it will sell. Mac fanboys are ridiculous. They will buy anything that says apple. Reminds me of myself and nintendo.
[quote name='Rozz']The sad thing is that it'll probably sell like hotcakes.
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is[/quote]
If they can make a 40GB nano I'd buy it in a second.
I have a 4GB iPod Nano. Its awesome, but I wish it would hold more space. I bought a Nano because it runs on flash memory versus a hard drive. And not to meantion how sexy it is
[/quote]If they can make a 40GB nano I'd buy it in a second.
[quote name='Soodmeg']Seriouly...for every person who buys a ipod or one of its million counter parts....i am going to kill a peta member.[/quote]
iPods are slick looking, cheap, easy as hell to operate and compatible with iTunes which is probably the most complete online music store out there. What's not to like?
iPods are slick looking, cheap, easy as hell to operate and compatible with iTunes which is probably the most complete online music store out there. What's not to like?
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^^Most Ipod's are ugly as hell, they are all expensive for the featureless machines you get (wooo, every 6 months, you get a unique and handy upgrade such as the ability to share photos on a horrible res screen, woot!!), and only morons use iTunes as far as purchasing $.99 songs go.
[quote name='Lord Draconus777']^^Most Ipod's are ugly as hell, they are all expensive for the featureless machines you get (wooo, every 6 months, you get a unique and handy upgrade such as the ability to share photos on a horrible res screen, woot!!), and only morons use iTunes as far as purchasing $.99 songs go.[/quote]
You are definitely in the minority regarding the iPod's looks.... as for the other comments I guess that's your opinion but all I know is that I can fit over 1,000 CDs in my pocket and take them whereever I want. Downloading music is cheap and easy (and although AAC files aren't the most compatible things in the world, since I can hook my iPod up almost anywhere when am I ever going to need anything else?). As for the extra features - I sure don't use it for anything other than music but to each their own.
You are definitely in the minority regarding the iPod's looks.... as for the other comments I guess that's your opinion but all I know is that I can fit over 1,000 CDs in my pocket and take them whereever I want. Downloading music is cheap and easy (and although AAC files aren't the most compatible things in the world, since I can hook my iPod up almost anywhere when am I ever going to need anything else?). As for the extra features - I sure don't use it for anything other than music but to each their own.
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[quote name='Lord Draconus777']^^Most Ipod's are ugly as hell, they are all expensive for the featureless machines you get (wooo, every 6 months, you get a unique and handy upgrade such as the ability to share photos on a horrible res screen, woot!!), and only morons use iTunes as far as purchasing $.99 songs go.[/QUOTE]
not gonna argue on the ugly thing...it's white and has a wheel, with a chrome backing? it's not like it's brown with pink polka dots.
featureless....okay, let me bring you up to date, since more ipods have been released since the 1st gen batch. for one thing it's just supposed to play music. not only does it do that (jeez) but it's got a full equalizer with a ton of settings including a manual one, has excellent sound output(never "felt" bass in earbuds with a discman or my my Rio Karma for that matter), and the screen on the video ipod is very crisp and clear. and if you must have extra features for posterity, it does a calendar, can display a personal planner that you load through iTunes, has solitaire, arkanoid, and you can transport any files you want on it...which comes in handy a lot at school. 30 gigs holds a lot of stuff.
as for itunes...$10 an album, .99 a song...how is it moronic to pay that? before you say aac, you can burn them as mp3s and convert them that way. as for the program its self, it's free and extremely functional and intuitive. plug in an ipod, updates automatically, and you're set. haven't had to rummage through a music folder since i've owned it. not bad for $269 after a student discount.
so please, think of the bandwith before you post such nonsense.
and about this speaker...stopped reading at $350.
not gonna argue on the ugly thing...it's white and has a wheel, with a chrome backing? it's not like it's brown with pink polka dots.
featureless....okay, let me bring you up to date, since more ipods have been released since the 1st gen batch. for one thing it's just supposed to play music. not only does it do that (jeez) but it's got a full equalizer with a ton of settings including a manual one, has excellent sound output(never "felt" bass in earbuds with a discman or my my Rio Karma for that matter), and the screen on the video ipod is very crisp and clear. and if you must have extra features for posterity, it does a calendar, can display a personal planner that you load through iTunes, has solitaire, arkanoid, and you can transport any files you want on it...which comes in handy a lot at school. 30 gigs holds a lot of stuff.
as for itunes...$10 an album, .99 a song...how is it moronic to pay that? before you say aac, you can burn them as mp3s and convert them that way. as for the program its self, it's free and extremely functional and intuitive. plug in an ipod, updates automatically, and you're set. haven't had to rummage through a music folder since i've owned it. not bad for $269 after a student discount.
so please, think of the bandwith before you post such nonsense.
and about this speaker...stopped reading at $350.
[quote name='Apossum']not gonna argue on the ugly thing...it's white and has a wheel, with a chrome backing? it's not like it's brown with pink polka dots.
featureless....okay, let me bring you up to date, since more ipods have been released since the 1st gen batch. for one thing it's just supposed to play music. not only does it do that (jeez) but it's got a full equalizer with a ton of settings including a manual one, has excellent sound output(never "felt" bass in earbuds with a discman or my my Rio Karma for that matter), and the screen on the video ipod is very crisp and clear. and if you must have extra features for posterity, it does a calendar, can display a personal planner that you load through iTunes, has solitaire, arkanoid, and you can transport any files you want on it...which comes in handy a lot at school. 30 gigs holds a lot of stuff.
as for itunes...$10 an album, .99 a song...how is it moronic to pay that? before you say aac, you can burn them as mp3s and convert them that way. as for the program its self, it's free and extremely functional and intuitive. plug in an ipod, updates automatically, and you're set. haven't had to rummage through a music folder since i've owned it. not bad for $269 after a student discount.
so please, think of the bandwith before you post such nonsense.
and about this speaker...stopped reading at $350.[/QUOTE]
featureless....okay, let me bring you up to date, since more ipods have been released since the 1st gen batch. for one thing it's just supposed to play music. not only does it do that (jeez) but it's got a full equalizer with a ton of settings including a manual one, has excellent sound output(never "felt" bass in earbuds with a discman or my my Rio Karma for that matter), and the screen on the video ipod is very crisp and clear. and if you must have extra features for posterity, it does a calendar, can display a personal planner that you load through iTunes, has solitaire, arkanoid, and you can transport any files you want on it...which comes in handy a lot at school. 30 gigs holds a lot of stuff.
as for itunes...$10 an album, .99 a song...how is it moronic to pay that? before you say aac, you can burn them as mp3s and convert them that way. as for the program its self, it's free and extremely functional and intuitive. plug in an ipod, updates automatically, and you're set. haven't had to rummage through a music folder since i've owned it. not bad for $269 after a student discount.
so please, think of the bandwith before you post such nonsense.
and about this speaker...stopped reading at $350.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='Lord Draconus777']^^Most Ipod's are ugly as hell, they are all expensive for the featureless machines you get (wooo, every 6 months, you get a unique and handy upgrade such as the ability to share photos on a horrible res screen, woot!!), and only morons use iTunes as far as purchasing $.99 songs go.[/quote]
I am going to have to agree with him on this. Why people continue to buy ipods is confusing at best.
I am not saying the ipod is the worst mp3 player out there.....but its not the only one.
For each ipod feature i can name about 30 other mp3 players for roughly the same price or cheaper that will do the same thing or most likely do it better..
Now about Itunes....no matter what a ipod user will you ITUNES HAS NO ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT 99% OF EVERY OTHER PLAYER HAS! Honestly i had it at one time and it was just blah like every other player. I prefer Winamp for a couple reasons. 1) User made plugins 2) you can skin it 3) they update it alot to keep it from crashing
Ipod are extremely over rated....again i am not saying they are bad....but they are a million mp3 players that are better then them. If you search for about 3 min i bet you can find 15 + players that you would prefer over your ipod.
On a side note...if you bought a Ipod shuffle...i will literaly choke you for being one of the dumbest mother
er alive. Christ......its like buying an xbox 360 core system.
Here read this if you dont feel like searching. http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/04/ipod-overrated.html
and watch this... http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
I am going to have to agree with him on this. Why people continue to buy ipods is confusing at best.
I am not saying the ipod is the worst mp3 player out there.....but its not the only one.
For each ipod feature i can name about 30 other mp3 players for roughly the same price or cheaper that will do the same thing or most likely do it better..
Now about Itunes....no matter what a ipod user will you ITUNES HAS NO ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT 99% OF EVERY OTHER PLAYER HAS! Honestly i had it at one time and it was just blah like every other player. I prefer Winamp for a couple reasons. 1) User made plugins 2) you can skin it 3) they update it alot to keep it from crashing
Ipod are extremely over rated....again i am not saying they are bad....but they are a million mp3 players that are better then them. If you search for about 3 min i bet you can find 15 + players that you would prefer over your ipod.
On a side note...if you bought a Ipod shuffle...i will literaly choke you for being one of the dumbest mother
er alive. Christ......its like buying an xbox 360 core system.Here read this if you dont feel like searching. http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/04/ipod-overrated.html
and watch this... http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
[quote name='munch']I was hoping for some new intel ibook action, but that didn't happen.[/QUOTE]
When that does happen I will be buying a new ibook.
I do think that the $350 speaker is a bunch of bullshit. Its a $350 bookshelf speaker that docks onto the ipod.
When Apple does stuff they either do it really well or make something pointless and expensive.
When that does happen I will be buying a new ibook.
I do think that the $350 speaker is a bunch of bullshit. Its a $350 bookshelf speaker that docks onto the ipod.
When Apple does stuff they either do it really well or make something pointless and expensive.
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I just am very suspicious of a company that release 9 version of the same product within a given year. They couldnt have worked on them that hard within 1 to 2 month from each other. Also if you buy one ipod...why do you need any of the other ones?
And yeah i dont like being forced to use itunes or any other software for that matter.
And yeah i dont like being forced to use itunes or any other software for that matter.
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i think things with mac will take off when they go with the impending 16:9 which for movies will be really cool. Also if it has a fully integrated touch screen it might go the distance big time. Also somesort of wireless function and browser will set it far apart, just my hopes, dreams, and two cents.
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so basically your entire reason for hating them is that everyone has one, and most of them are ignorant fools who are unable to make a decision for themselves, no biggie, but ipods are, for the most part, quality products, and none of my friends who have had problems like that were forced to buy new ones
the speakers are stupid, a good pair of computer speakers does the same thing (although i really can't argue about sound quality)
finally, i feel like the next evolution for iPods would games. Although nintendo is already starting its own game downloading service, some other company/companies should definately jump on this oppurtunity. Cell phone games are really popular, and if you can get quality around the SNES/PS1 generation (please, no shitty attempts at 3D, we're too damn spoiled for that) with the ability to carry it around everywhere, you may definately get a lot more adult casual gamers who don't want to carry another gadget & games with them, plus the thousands of people who love games, but never thought of carrying them around (the kind of market cell phone games tap into)
a while ago, i actually made a small pic of what it might look like (MSPaint, i made it to explain it to a friend)
When in music/movie/picture mode it would return to a normal vertical ipod
Also, the D-pad could be detachable/replaced with other gizmos (flashlight/other tools that use electricity, extra batter/storage space, or just taken off to save some space)
the speakers are stupid, a good pair of computer speakers does the same thing (although i really can't argue about sound quality)
finally, i feel like the next evolution for iPods would games. Although nintendo is already starting its own game downloading service, some other company/companies should definately jump on this oppurtunity. Cell phone games are really popular, and if you can get quality around the SNES/PS1 generation (please, no shitty attempts at 3D, we're too damn spoiled for that) with the ability to carry it around everywhere, you may definately get a lot more adult casual gamers who don't want to carry another gadget & games with them, plus the thousands of people who love games, but never thought of carrying them around (the kind of market cell phone games tap into)
a while ago, i actually made a small pic of what it might look like (MSPaint, i made it to explain it to a friend)
When in music/movie/picture mode it would return to a normal vertical ipod
Also, the D-pad could be detachable/replaced with other gizmos (flashlight/other tools that use electricity, extra batter/storage space, or just taken off to save some space)
[quote name='Soodmeg'] Also if you buy one ipod...why do you need any of the other ones? [/QUOTE]
You got to collect them all.
No one says you need any other one. Who the hell is forcing you to buy ipods?
They bring out 9 different ipods to try to meet every consumer demand. Then new tech comes out so they update the ipod.
You got to collect them all.
No one says you need any other one. Who the hell is forcing you to buy ipods?
They bring out 9 different ipods to try to meet every consumer demand. Then new tech comes out so they update the ipod.
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[quote name='Soodmeg']I am going to have to agree with him on this. Why people continue to buy ipods is confusing at best. [/quote]
we like music
but it is the best one. seriously, no hyperbole in that at all.
okay...i posted a bunch of features a few posts back. get cracking
(okay, besides direct access to that huge music store)
also, you don't need plug ins because you just throw in a music file, it'll convert it if it needs to, and then you choose it from the list and play it. doesn't need frequent updates because it doesn't crash
there's something to be said for how minimalist itunes is. some of us just want to listen to music without a ton of shit happening on the player.
the equalizer is pretty good too. not much else you can ask for. I found winamp and WMP to be very annoying and difficult to deal with. iTunes doesn't make you click more than a couple times to accomplish anything.
:lol: what? like what...the philips something or other, maybe the Creative Zen, or Rio Karma? that Dell thing with the day-glo? nah, none of em come close in design, sound quality, or software support. you get what you pay for.
agreed about the shuffle (or it's like buying a 360 period) ...but THAT VIDEO IS 3 YEARS OLD!
we like music
but it is the best one. seriously, no hyperbole in that at all.
okay...i posted a bunch of features a few posts back. get cracking
(okay, besides direct access to that huge music store)
also, you don't need plug ins because you just throw in a music file, it'll convert it if it needs to, and then you choose it from the list and play it. doesn't need frequent updates because it doesn't crash
there's something to be said for how minimalist itunes is. some of us just want to listen to music without a ton of shit happening on the player.
the equalizer is pretty good too. not much else you can ask for. I found winamp and WMP to be very annoying and difficult to deal with. iTunes doesn't make you click more than a couple times to accomplish anything.
:lol: what? like what...the philips something or other, maybe the Creative Zen, or Rio Karma? that Dell thing with the day-glo? nah, none of em come close in design, sound quality, or software support. you get what you pay for.
On a side note...if you bought a Ipod shuffle...i will literaly choke you for being one of the dumbest mother
Here read this if you dont feel like searching. http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/04/ipod-overrated.html
and watch this... http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
agreed about the shuffle (or it's like buying a 360 period) ...but THAT VIDEO IS 3 YEARS OLD!
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^^^ dude you cant say its the best....its not. Huge music store? Hummm its called torrent...there my music store right there.
Also..what are you talking about you couldnt figure out winamp? Its also not fair to say that winamp or itunes is easy to use. I can do anything i want within 3 seconds in winamp...as i could with itunes.
But the features are the same...other than the skinning (i hate apple cream color for some reason) and the plug-ins. The plug-ins for winamp or not just for the music..there are a couple thousand user made programs that do alot of differnt things.
Again i am not saying an ipod is not a good mp3 player..i am just saying its not the best. There are a ton of other mp3 players that are just as good and better than it.
Also..what are you talking about you couldnt figure out winamp? Its also not fair to say that winamp or itunes is easy to use. I can do anything i want within 3 seconds in winamp...as i could with itunes.
But the features are the same...other than the skinning (i hate apple cream color for some reason) and the plug-ins. The plug-ins for winamp or not just for the music..there are a couple thousand user made programs that do alot of differnt things.
Again i am not saying an ipod is not a good mp3 player..i am just saying its not the best. There are a ton of other mp3 players that are just as good and better than it.
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That's hot! No joke. That that could work. Especially if the D-pad were detachable like you mentioned. Check out my bastardized version below:
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It's a good idea in theory but I don't need a 4th portable gaming system to play... but I do carry my iPod everywhere... hmmm...
That's hot! No joke. That that could work. Especially if the D-pad were detachable like you mentioned. Check out my bastardized version below:
It's a good idea in theory but I don't need a 4th portable gaming system to play... but I do carry my iPod everywhere... hmmm...
[quote name='javeryh']It's a good idea in theory but I don't need a 4th portable gaming system to play... but I do carry my iPod everywhere... hmmm...[/quote]
The best part is room for innovation:
The center button could act as a "shift" key to add more functionality to the left keypad. The right scroll wheel could be used like an analogue stick ro 360 degree rotation. Seems like an interesting idea to say the least.
The best part is room for innovation:
The center button could act as a "shift" key to add more functionality to the left keypad. The right scroll wheel could be used like an analogue stick ro 360 degree rotation. Seems like an interesting idea to say the least.
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[quote name='Soodmeg']^^^ dude you cant say its the best....its not. Huge music store? Hummm its called torrent...there my music store right there.
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alright, then what's better? okay, have fun stealing...I can't find half the music I want on bit torrent, since every site has closed registration nowadays and I don't really listen to anything mainstream. and screw waiting for seeds. i may have been raised jewish, but, i can drop $.99 on a song....
I used winamp for a little while and found it to be a pain in the ass. the first time i saw itunes, i knew exactly how to use it..that's cool that there are plug-ins, but I'm not in to all that. I just like it to play music, be easy to deal with and not take up all my RAM.
okay, i'm still waiting to hear what the better mp3 players are
i really don't think there are any that are as streamlined as the ipod/itunes set up...but i'm always open to hear about other ones.
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alright, then what's better? okay, have fun stealing...I can't find half the music I want on bit torrent, since every site has closed registration nowadays and I don't really listen to anything mainstream. and screw waiting for seeds. i may have been raised jewish, but
, i can drop $.99 on a song....I used winamp for a little while and found it to be a pain in the ass. the first time i saw itunes, i knew exactly how to use it..that's cool that there are plug-ins, but I'm not in to all that. I just like it to play music, be easy to deal with and not take up all my RAM.
okay, i'm still waiting to hear what the better mp3 players are
i really don't think there are any that are as streamlined as the ipod/itunes set up...but i'm always open to hear about other ones.
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[quote name='Apossum']alright, then what's better? okay, have fun stealing...I can't find half the music I want on bit torrent, since every site has closed registration nowadays and I don't really listen to anything mainstream. and screw waiting for seeds. i may have been raised jewish, but , i can drop $.99 on a song....
I used winamp for a little while and found it to be a pain in the ass. the first time i saw itunes, i knew exactly how to use it..that's cool that there are plug-ins, but I'm not in to all that. I just like it to play music, be easy to deal with and not take up all my RAM.
okay, i'm still waiting to hear what the better mp3 players are
i really don't think there are any that are as streamlined as the ipod/itunes set up...but i'm always open to hear about other ones.[/quote]
Meh....[SIZE=-1] Tomahto You say tomatio i say tomahto There just isnt that much differnce between most of the higher end mp3 players...just differnt names.
All good though.
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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, i can drop $.99 on a song....I used winamp for a little while and found it to be a pain in the ass. the first time i saw itunes, i knew exactly how to use it..that's cool that there are plug-ins, but I'm not in to all that. I just like it to play music, be easy to deal with and not take up all my RAM.
okay, i'm still waiting to hear what the better mp3 players are
i really don't think there are any that are as streamlined as the ipod/itunes set up...but i'm always open to hear about other ones.[/quote]
Meh....[SIZE=-1] Tomahto You say tomatio i say tomahto There just isnt that much differnce between most of the higher end mp3 players...just differnt names.
All good though.
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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emusic is a much better music store than itunes. priceformat, file format, ability to d/l the same song numerous times without doublecharging on multiple machines no less. Not needing any proprietary software to download and the music is encoded at a higher vbr. And this may be personal taste, but I find it more enjoyable/easier to navigate.
the speaker is ugly, which is bizarre because apple is usually so great at the design element. it does have an input so any mp3 could play, and that's nice, i guess. but not at this price. for $350 there are so much better "higher end" audio options.
Now if the boombox had a leather case!
the speaker is ugly, which is bizarre because apple is usually so great at the design element. it does have an input so any mp3 could play, and that's nice, i guess. but not at this price. for $350 there are so much better "higher end" audio options.
Now if the boombox had a leather case!
[quote name='Soodmeg']Meh....[SIZE=-1] Tomahto You say tomatio i say tomahto There just isnt that much differnce between most of the higher end mp3 players...just differnt names.
All good though.
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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All good though.
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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[quote name='Soodmeg']
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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i dunno, are you? :lol: i have a nice mix of stolen/bought music. but most of the stolen stuff was from a while ago when I didn't have any cash.
Real quick...99 cents a song....ARE YOU CRAZY! I have 43 gigs of music....do you how much money that would have been? Crazy man just crazy. You just have to find the right torrents.
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i dunno, are you? :lol: i have a nice mix of stolen/bought music. but most of the stolen stuff was from a while ago when I didn't have any cash.
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[quote name='jkam']Wow that ipod dock is definitely not worth it....I wonder if most people realize they can buy a $3 audio cable to hook up their IPOD to their home stereo.[/QUOTE]
good question i've never understood the "ipod speaker" craze (not even going to acknowledge the $350 one's existence) I have a 200 watt Logitech 2.1 speaker system that sounds amazing that i got for $50...and hey it works with just about anything I want to hook it up to, not just an ipod.
good question i've never understood the "ipod speaker" craze (not even going to acknowledge the $350 one's existence) I have a 200 watt Logitech 2.1 speaker system that sounds amazing that i got for $50...and hey it works with just about anything I want to hook it up to, not just an ipod.
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iPod haters need to get a life. It's a good product that struck a chord with consumers and has caught fire. Why hate it for that? It just doesn't make any sense. At least Steve Jobs believes in his own products, I can't say the same for Gates.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.
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[quote name='megashock5']iPod haters need to get a life. It's a good product that struck a chord with consumers and has caught fire. Why hate it for that? It just doesn't make any sense. At least Steve Jobs believes in his own products, I can't say the same for Gates.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.[/QUOTE]
I'm not about brand loyalty at all, but I just don't see how anyone can deny how well made the Ipod is. In any other situation, that would be a complete fanboy thing to say, but it's obvious how much R+D has gone into the thing.
I will say the touch wheel is a bit annoying and oversensitive at times though.
as for starbucks coffee, well, that's another story. burned bitter coffee does not equal good just messing around.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.[/QUOTE]
I'm not about brand loyalty at all, but I just don't see how anyone can deny how well made the Ipod is. In any other situation, that would be a complete fanboy thing to say, but it's obvious how much R+D has gone into the thing.
I will say the touch wheel is a bit annoying and oversensitive at times though.
as for starbucks coffee, well, that's another story. burned bitter coffee does not equal good
just messing around.
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I think you're confusing R&D with marketing.
[quote name='Apossum']I'm not about brand loyalty at all, but I just don't see how anyone can deny how well made the Ipod is. In any other situation, that would be a complete fanboy thing to say, but it's obvious how much R+D has gone into the thing.
I will say the touch wheel is a bit annoying and oversensitive at times though.
as for starbucks coffee, well, that's another story. burned bitter coffee does not equal good just messing around.[/QUOTE]
You're right, no one can deny how well made it is, no one can deny how well marketed it is either. However, many people just don't like it. I'm one of them. The click wheel is probably my number one complaint, perhaps an iPod with standard buttons/switches would be to my fancy, but as it stands, wheels and "fancy" interfaces have always struck me as a bother.
I will say the touch wheel is a bit annoying and oversensitive at times though.
as for starbucks coffee, well, that's another story. burned bitter coffee does not equal good
just messing around.[/QUOTE]You're right, no one can deny how well made it is, no one can deny how well marketed it is either. However, many people just don't like it. I'm one of them. The click wheel is probably my number one complaint, perhaps an iPod with standard buttons/switches would be to my fancy, but as it stands, wheels and "fancy" interfaces have always struck me as a bother.
[quote name='megashock5']iPod haters need to get a life. It's a good product that struck a chord with consumers and has caught fire. Why hate it for that? It just doesn't make any sense. At least Steve Jobs believes in his own products, I can't say the same for Gates.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, Sony did have the right product, it had it more than 10 years ago: minidisc. In Japan and Europe, it caught on, people got it. There's still more minidisc players in Japan than there are iPods. There was a big push for MD in the USA, but people just didn't get it. I don't know why..
When I can get an iPod that runs off one AA battery for 75 hours, that has cheap reusable media that lasts more than a hundred years, and that based on its design, is free from all the problems of portable music, I'll buy it. Besides, good MD compression brings how the mid and low end of music perfectly. I've had people listen to a CD then an MD of the same song and prefer the MD sound, even if it is compressed.
This market should have been Sony's (after creating the walkman), but they missed. They didn't have the right product. Apple did. Why diss them for that? There's no way Apple should have been expected to get the legal music download store working before anyone else, but they did it. Jobs went and met face to face with some of the artists to get it to happen and they have the best product of its kind on the market. But yeah, they suck. :|
I swear, Apple haters are even worse than Starbucks haters.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, Sony did have the right product, it had it more than 10 years ago: minidisc. In Japan and Europe, it caught on, people got it. There's still more minidisc players in Japan than there are iPods. There was a big push for MD in the USA, but people just didn't get it. I don't know why..
When I can get an iPod that runs off one AA battery for 75 hours, that has cheap reusable media that lasts more than a hundred years, and that based on its design, is free from all the problems of portable music, I'll buy it. Besides, good MD compression brings how the mid and low end of music perfectly. I've had people listen to a CD then an MD of the same song and prefer the MD sound, even if it is compressed.
[quote name='sarausagi']Thing is, Sony did have the right product, it had it more than 10 years ago: minidisc. In Japan and Europe, it caught on, people got it. There's still more minidisc players in Japan than there are iPods. There was a big push for MD in the USA, but people just didn't get it. I don't know why..
When I can get an iPod that runs off one AA battery for 75 hours, that has cheap reusable media that lasts more than a hundred years, and that based on its design, is free from all the problems of portable music, I'll buy it. Besides, good MD compression brings how the mid and low end of music perfectly. I've had people listen to a CD then an MD of the same song and prefer the MD sound, even if it is compressed.[/quote]
How many songs can fit on one MD? Can you even record to them? I can fit 60GB of music in my pocket and the battery lasts 10 hours at least (when it's not plugged in at work or in my car or at home). The sound quality isn't bad and I'd argue it's negligible but I'm probably going deaf for my abusive headphone use over the last 20 years. I just don't understand not liking iPods.
When I can get an iPod that runs off one AA battery for 75 hours, that has cheap reusable media that lasts more than a hundred years, and that based on its design, is free from all the problems of portable music, I'll buy it. Besides, good MD compression brings how the mid and low end of music perfectly. I've had people listen to a CD then an MD of the same song and prefer the MD sound, even if it is compressed.[/quote]
How many songs can fit on one MD? Can you even record to them? I can fit 60GB of music in my pocket and the battery lasts 10 hours at least (when it's not plugged in at work or in my car or at home). The sound quality isn't bad and I'd argue it's negligible but I'm probably going deaf for my abusive headphone use over the last 20 years. I just don't understand not liking iPods.
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Ipods are okay for casual music listeners who don't mind paying a little extra to cover the marketing campaign. However if you want something a bit more substantial (sound quality, feature set, durability, etc) you have to look elsewhere.
[quote name='javeryh']How many songs can fit on one MD? Can you even record to them? I can fit 60GB of music in my pocket and the battery lasts 10 hours at least (when it's not plugged in at work or in my car or at home). The sound quality isn't bad and I'd argue it's negligible but I'm probably going deaf for my abusive headphone use over the last 20 years. I just don't understand not liking iPods.[/QUOTE]
240 minutes, about 60 songs on one MD, at an approximate 112 - 160 KBPS quality: ATRAC3 is a variable bit encode. Maybe it's a bit of frugality, but I don't see the need for 60GB of music.
As for, can you even record to them? Considering one MD can go through an infinite number of rewrites and formats, yes, you can record to them, in various levels of quality. The most common ones used are uncompressed [Linear PCS 1.4MBPS, 28 minutes to a disc] SP2 [298 KBPS, 80 minutes] ] ATRAC3 [112-160 vbr, referred to as 132 KBPS/LP2, 240 mintes] and ATRAC3LP4 [66 KBPS, 10 hours on a disc, sucks for music but incredible for audiobooks and broadcasts]
It's too complicated to really explain in a post, let's just leave it at minidisc can support gapless playback, infinite song length. In recording circles, it's replaced DAT, blind tests always put it up above mp3/CD in terms of sound quality, and the science behind it just makes a lot more sense.
Some have also suggested, minidisc sounds a lot "warmer" than mp3 and CD..kind of like vinyl or multichannel formats..perhaps because of the nature of the format of itself [magneto-optic disc media, the bit allocation arrays are different, the way music is written is different, there's TONS of information online, sony Japan's website and minidisco being the best sources, though minidisco's info is very old]
240 minutes, about 60 songs on one MD, at an approximate 112 - 160 KBPS quality: ATRAC3 is a variable bit encode. Maybe it's a bit of frugality, but I don't see the need for 60GB of music.
As for, can you even record to them? Considering one MD can go through an infinite number of rewrites and formats, yes, you can record to them, in various levels of quality. The most common ones used are uncompressed [Linear PCS 1.4MBPS, 28 minutes to a disc] SP2 [298 KBPS, 80 minutes] ] ATRAC3 [112-160 vbr, referred to as 132 KBPS/LP2, 240 mintes] and ATRAC3LP4 [66 KBPS, 10 hours on a disc, sucks for music but incredible for audiobooks and broadcasts]
It's too complicated to really explain in a post, let's just leave it at minidisc can support gapless playback, infinite song length. In recording circles, it's replaced DAT, blind tests always put it up above mp3/CD in terms of sound quality, and the science behind it just makes a lot more sense.
Some have also suggested, minidisc sounds a lot "warmer" than mp3 and CD..kind of like vinyl or multichannel formats..perhaps because of the nature of the format of itself [magneto-optic disc media, the bit allocation arrays are different, the way music is written is different, there's TONS of information online, sony Japan's website and minidisco being the best sources, though minidisco's info is very old]
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