nintendos virtual console idea

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I think it is a complete joke right now. I mean are people seriously going to have to wait like 2 years to play some of these games. Why isn't mario-all stars out yet or a mariokart? It is a great idea but a little too pricey and if you can't play the origianl mariokart online then I dub this little idea and console a failure. I might just have to save my money and buy the new ds model that will probably come out in 10 months.
 
And Nintendo will love you either way. ;) But seriously - why would they give you Mario All-Stars when every game in Mario All-Stars could be offered separately? There's no incentive for them to offer high-profile titles on the VC when the system is selling out. Once game droughts occur and demand drops, they'll throw us some bones.
 
[quote name='magiic']LOL


edit: fuck I dub myself a failure for this post:([/QUOTE]

No way jose. Anyone who finds me funny gets a pass. A winner is you.
 
If you base the Wii's success on the VC then you are severely lost, and I agree with the others, and I too dub this thread a failure.

Sure I'd like some of the bigger Titles, but I also like how they are releasing game that I have never even heard of(Nintendo came out 7 years before I was born and ours was always broken by the time i was old enough to play it.)

Also some game are pricey but others are not. For example I never had a copy of Super Mario 64 because I only got a 64 last year. For that game I would have to pay 18.99 at my EB/Gamestop, so 10.00 on VC is great for me.(didnt mean to make that rhyme)

Last thing......I don't mean to pound on you just because everyone else is.
 
I want to be able to play super metroid on a Wi now, I have never played it!
I also want to be able to play super tecmo bowl from the NES online against people.
From QB Eagles to Bo Jackson to Lawrence Taylor that game owns madden to this day.
It would be sweet to get some supermariokart battle tourneys online.
Nintendo is milking so much money from the consumer that they need these services and they need them in the next couple of months.
 
[quote name='trq']I dub this thread a failure.[/quote]
Seconded. It plays everything perfectly and exactly like the originals but in 480p. That's all I need.
 
Yeah, Nintendo made All Stars almost 15 years ago, and now the games are only sold seperately... whores.

I am glad I sill have my copy, hopefully the stupid battery sticks with it.
 
Will I ever get to play the Lost Levels(The real Super Mario Bros 2) on the Wi?
Does Nintendo really think Super Mario Bros. is a great Christmas present to fans? They could have come up with anything that would have been better than that! The VC controller seems to be not compatible with everything. VeryVeryVery weak.
 
Nintendo's VC is just fucked up.

$5 for Baseball and Pinball? That's just crazy. They should make games like that $2-$3 when the big names like Mario and Zelda should be $5.

And 5 games a week is lame. Nintendo alone should release 5 games a week. That way there are a huge selection of games for people to by, what's the point of holding all the big games for months?
 
[quote name='David85']And 5 games a week is lame. Nintendo alone should release 5 games a week. That way there are a huge selection of games for people to by, what's the point of holding all the big games for months?[/QUOTE]

Because they don't want to compete against themselves for your dollar, fuckwit.

It's why Square-Enix staggered the Fall releases of Final Fantasy III DS, FFXII PS2, and FFV Advance on GBA (and also postponed the release of FFVI Advance until Feb/March). Because you won't buy it all if it's offered all at once.

I hold this thread, and the PSP vs DS thread, as evidence supporting why many long-time CAGs are beginning to hate the fucking forums anymore. In this case, you instant-gratification motherfuckers just don't quite grasp the most rudimentary market principles guiding the VC.

I mean, for reals...these games are already made, so why don't they release every NES/SNES/TG16 game EBAREVAREBAR on the VC? Jesus Christ. PM me your phone number, so I can pass it on to Reggie. He promised me he'll get to work on whatever VC titles you want immediately, and wash your car too.
 
I thought with the launch lineup as weak as it was, really needed some quality VC titles out of the gate. But all there really was was Mario 64. At least gunstar heroes and a few others are out there now but super fucking mario brothers is nothing at this point. That is like Nintendo giving me a cool present for christmans(the Wii) but coal in my stocking(The VC lineup from nintendo specifically)
Zelda there only good Wii game is a port.:applause:
I like the wii but I am frustrated with Miyamoto and his mole.
 
Well, maybe they're trying to get those games up and running on the VC for multiplayer...After all it took Capcom how long to get Street Fighter II running?And they didn't even get it right. If you don't like it you can always play on your DS.
 
[quote name='evanft']STFU and go away forever.[/QUOTE]

QFT

Wii's on top of the world, and you're deeming it a failure because a couple of games aren't on the VC yet? Play something else and calm down.
 
People who think that Nintendo should release all their classic games at once have absolutely no future in running a business.
 
[quote name='MAH4546']People who think that Nintendo should release all their classic games at once have absolutely no future in running a business.[/quote] True, I agree, but I will say that having really no good games for over a month for the VC is kinda discouraging. I mean they could of put one major release on there to hold us for awhile.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']True, I agree, but I will say that having really no good games for over a month for the VC is kinda discouraging. I mean they could of put one major release on there to hold us for awhile.[/QUOTE]

Well, Gunstar Heroes is going after the niche market, while the releases on Christmas look good. It remains to be seen whether or not SFII is a "major release," or if people snub it because it's the most rudimentary version of that game available. Beyond that, SMB is a classic, CVIV may be one (sure is to me), and R-Type may be one also (they sure are charging a premium for it).

The fucking system's been out for four weeks, and 25+ titles are available (give or take). What's to whine about?
 
No, I seriously want to know how old the OP is.

If he's < 14, then I will understand his lack of common sense. If he's > 14, I will fear for the future of humanity more than I already do.
 
[quote name='MAH4546']People who think that Nintendo should release all their classic games at once have absolutely no future in running a business.[/quote]agreed, its people like this that make me wonder how they can survive in this world, of course the vast majority of CAGers have a bit more sense than that, but i digress, releasing all their major VC titles during launch would end up clashing with their normal game sales, and then what happens after all their major VC titles are out? then people will complain that the ones coming out after suck and demand better ones
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, Gunstar Heroes is going after the niche market, while the releases on Christmas look good. It remains to be seen whether or not SFII is a "major release," or if people snub it because it's the most rudimentary version of that game available. Beyond that, SMB is a classic, CVIV may be one (sure is to me), and R-Type may be one also (they sure are charging a premium for it).

The fucking system's been out for four weeks, and 25+ titles are available (give or take). What's to whine about?[/quote]I am actually happy with the VC lineup, I just wish we got something like SFII or Castlevania IV earlier, because well all the other VC titles haven't intrested me and now points cards are becoming harder to find because of the holidays (dont own a cc), and I didn't want to stock up until I found something I wanted to buy.
 
It's extremely early. This service is adding titles at a good pace and they all have the advantage of being tried and true. Not a single turkey in the lot, because why should they bother? If the pool ever starts running dry they can dredge up the merely so-so games for lower prices.

Sure, there are plenty of games in there I'd never buy but I was never going to buy them back when they were new. If someone gave me NES Baseball back in 1988 I'd have either sold it or used it for a gift to someone who'd actually enjoy it. But that is just me. Nintendo has plenty of reason to believe there is nostalgia value in the game and even some value as a simple item for the Wii audience that never knew the NES.

Give up whining about Mario All-Stars. Selling those games separately on the GBA was a goldmine. There is no reason to expect them to do any differently on the VC. At the least, they'll probably offer all of the NES version before offering the colelctive SNES version.

What this really reminds me of is the ongoing whinefest over the Xbox 360's support for original games. Every time they extend the list there is a group who acts like Microsoft ran over their dog because their favorite game that did lousy business hasn't made it onto the list yet.
 
people need to stop bitching about the V.C. if nintendo released all there guns on day one i am talking major hits no one would buy the nintendo exclusives like wario ware and mario party 8 and such you get the idea. be happy they game gunstar heros and the original zelda. they could have stuck us with shitty games like superman64 and shaq fu. i am so sick of coming in here and people saying the wii sucks there is no good games for it or the wii sucks the V.C games are junk. grow the fuck up already. i mean come on people. be happy you got a freakin wii some people still have to hook up there old nes or 64 or tg16 to play game becuase they were not fortunate enough to get a wii.

i guess what i am trying to say. i am an older gamer who owned all the consoles that are on the V.C and it is very nice to see nintendo putting out older games instead of sticking you with the 24.99 price tag gamestop was charging for mario 64. i think 10 bucks is not bad. so people shut the fuck up about the V.C already. like some one here stated the system has been out a month and there is 25 games. play them and be happy.

my only gripe about the V.C is there should be more 64 games like goldeneye or perfect dark of something. other then that i think the wii fuckin rocks and so does the V.C

long live nintendo

i am done
 
[quote name='chodax']No Guys Nintendo Should Release Super Mario Allstars In A Combo With Mario Kart For 100 Points!! Good Deal![/quote]They should, but how stupid do you think Nintendo is when they can charge 2300 points over 100. In all seriousness though we should be thankful we are even getting Super Mario games and Mario Kart, instead of complaining about what is and isn't on the system or the costs (because they are fair) because Nintendo could of just scrapped the VC idea at any time.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']They should, but how stupid do you think Nintendo is when they can charge 2300 points over 100. In all seriousness though we should be thankful we are even getting Super Mario games and Mario Kart, instead of complaining about what is and isn't on the system or the costs (because they are fair) because Nintendo could of just scrapped the VC idea at any time.[/QUOTE]

ok i agree with everything you said but how about a thought here. here me out say they had smb1-2-3 instead of 1500 pts they charged 1200 or 1300 but you had to get all 3 in that packages no exception. it would be a clever marketing idea plus it would work out a little better
 
[quote name='MAH4546']People who think that Nintendo should release all their classic games at once have absolutely no future in running a business.[/QUOTE]


Not all of them but more than one classic a month.

They can release a big game a week, they aren't even doing that. They are releasing bullshit games no one will pay $5 for.

It's not like the Wii has a huge list of mga games coming out for the system right now. There biggest game released on the VC is a Mario game that has been ported 400 times in the last 20 years. Nintendo can do a lot better than they are.

And I'm glad to swee that the Nintendo board is still full of assholes. Good to see some things never change. Why don't you go back to Gamefaqs where everyone there lives in a dream world where Nintendo can do nothing wrong.
 
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[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']They should, but how stupid do you think Nintendo is when they can charge 2300 points over 100. In all seriousness though we should be thankful we are even getting Super Mario games and Mario Kart, instead of complaining about what is and isn't on the system or the costs (because they are fair) because Nintendo could of just scrapped the VC idea at any time.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about "being thankful" for the VC. I'm glad it's there, but it's also part of what sold me on the system. I prefer a more "customer-directed market" approach, where Nintendo should be thankful that I spend money at the VC store (and MS with XBLA, and Sony with their PSP Downloads).

I understand the frustration of some people who don't care for the VC library thus far. It's not a "home run," per se, and the only VC title I own is Mario 64 (and that purchase was a "I wonder how well the VC works, and here's the one game I'll actually play on it so far" kind of purchase). I think the pricing structure is atrocious for many games, but that's a debate for another thread.

If you turn your head away from the VC for a month, you'll suddenly find 15-20 new games available on it. That's a lot, frankly. However, it's just like software releases in stores: there are stinkers, there are average titles, and then there's that good shit that's worth waiting for. As epobirs said, it's like the 360 BC updates: since gamers are perpetual bitches, they focus on what is absent from the list, and a small minority actually appreciate what's included. Go find the recent 360 BC update thread. MS added Indigo Prophecy, Conker, Shenmue II, and Psychonauts, four games that are pure unadulterated fanboy-motivated actions. And people, instead, began to bitch that Panzer Dragoon Orta or *insert game here* wasn't included.

I'm beginning to think that gamers thrive on misery and grousing, and no matter the obstacles put in front of us (awesome games), we're determined to succeed in our task.

The VC is coming along nicely. If they keep up the pace of releases as they have, then they'll exceed the size of the XBLA library in just a few months. That's no small task, hombres. Is it in Nintendo's best interest to get big name titles to us, like Super Mario All-Stars? Sure, but they'd rather sell you each of the games separately, first. Why? Because this ain't the goddamn Salvation Army and you ain't starvin. That's why.
 
I am going to get the genesis collection on ps2 for 10 bucks. Nintendo you get no money for sonic, sonic 2,ristar, and the rest.
Nintendos virtual console is to expensive. With the lack of Wi games out I really expected some games like super mario bros 3 and supermario rpg to be available by Christmas. And I totally understand them wanting to spread the games out but they don't have to milk you for everything. Well mayby some of you will get to play excitebike 64 by Christmas 2009 on your Wi. By that time they will have already made thousands on the origianl Excitebike which comes in the 64 game. I want super mario allstars available before 2010. Some of you are too high on this system right now. It sells out at stores in 20 minutes and thats great but right now the system sucks because it has no good games. Zelda is a port so don't include that and trauma center is a remake. It has a lot of potetial but the VC as of right now is a monumental letdown.
Are my thoughts troll enough for you?
 
[quote name='hupp']I am going to get the genesis collection on ps2 for 10 bucks. Nintendo you get no money for sonic, sonic 2,ristar, and the rest.
Nintendos virtual console is to expensive. With the lack of Wi games out I really expected some games like super mario bros 3 and supermario rpg to be available by Christmas. And I totally understand them wanting to spread the games out but they don't have to milk you for everything. Well mayby some of you will get to play excitebike 64 by Christmas 2009 on your Wi. By that time they will have already made thousands on the origianl Excitebike which comes in the 64 game. I want super mario allstars available before 2010. Some of you are too high on this system right now. It sells out at stores in 20 minutes and thats great but right now the system sucks because it has no good games. Zelda is a port so don't include that and trauma center is a remake. It has a lot of potetial but the VC as of right now is a monumental letdown.
Are my thoughts troll enough for you?[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't even know where to start on this.

Well I guess: It's Wii.

And Zelda "doesn't count"? What on Earth is that?
 
Zelda is not an original Wi game, it is a port.
Please Miyamoto dont make supermario sunshine 2 the first one was horrible. Fludd and piantas, what were they thinking.
 
You're going to get a lot of ports with new console launches. The 360 and the PS3 had nothing but ports as well.

But what I find humorous is that "port" is better than anything the PS3 has at the moment. Resistance? I'll just play Gears of War, thanks.
 
[quote name='Staind204']It's so funny how mad people get on a videogame forum.[/quote]

Aye. I already sent my one letter to Nintendo listing which games I'd like to see on the VC(supposedly they collect a lot of info from snail mail?) so now all I can do is sit back and wait. Here's to hoping.
 
[quote name='hupp']Zelda is not an original Wi game, it is a port.
Please Miyamoto dont make supermario sunshine 2 the first one was horrible. Fludd and piantas, what were they thinking.[/QUOTE]

This is a semantic argument at best. There is so little separating the Wii and GameCube that calling a Wii game that is the first public availability of the title a port beggars the definition. Especially when it takes good advantage of the Wii's features.

Numerous Wii games will have started life as GameCube projects that were delayed and reworked to take advantage of the more viable market the Wii would bring. Get over it.

While many were disappointed with SMS, the game did great business. Money talks and all else walks. The SMS setting will likely appear again someday.
 
[quote name='David85']Not all of them but more than one classic a month.

They can release a big game a week, they aren't even doing that. They are releasing bullshit games no one will pay $5 for.

It's not like the Wii has a huge list of mga games coming out for the system right now. There biggest game released on the VC is a Mario game that has been ported 400 times in the last 20 years. Nintendo can do a lot better than they are.

And I'm glad to swee that the Nintendo board is still full of assholes. Good to see some things never change. Why don't you go back to Gamefaqs where everyone there lives in a dream world where Nintendo can do nothing wrong.[/QUOTE]

Actually, they re releasing a big game every week. By their measure, which is sales history, as opposed to your measure, which is the games you want and all others can gather dust regardless of their market value.

Somehow, I think Nintendo will be more swayed by the revenue potential than one guy's personal taste in games.
 
The other thing to keep in mind is not everyone wants the exact same games, and some games that people consider "junk" are games that others view as classics. For instance, there is no game I am looking more forward to than Pro Wrestling. But I am sure that others will view it as another crap game. Meanwhile, I'd never consider getting Solomon's Key, but others view it as a must have. One man's trash, yadda yadda yadda.

I think it's quite cool they are releasing oddball stuff in there, because there is such a back catalog at their disposal. Would I like to have more each week? Sure, but I'm actually just happy that I know eventually I'll probably see everything I want to play.

As long as we get Beetle Adventure Racing, that is. :cool:

RD
 
[quote name='hupp']I want to be able to play super metroid on a Wi now, I have never played it!
[/quote]

Okay Veruca, calm down dear. Daddy will buy you a Super Metroid.
Okay Wonker, how much for the Super Metroid?
 
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