No Bush Draft? Think Again.

That's only the start. I can't wait to see what positive spin they try to use to replace the word "draft". I'm still convinced they'll call it "mandatory service".
 
it's a complete backdoor draft, with the double duty they are making current soldiers re-"enlist"...soon they'll all be dead...why don't they draft all the rednecks that voted for bush, they all love their guns so much...just tell them that the iraqs are gay and i'm sure they'll have no problem shipping out over there...or better yet tell them the iraq soldiers are all abortion doctors...stupid inbreed fucks.
 
^^^ Nods

I was making fun of the south aka Jesusland, and my mom went "Well Bruse and Reese don't like him". No shit, one is gay, and the other doesn't date, anyone.
 
If he has the papers that say he's through he should win his case. Who knows, it may have been a simple mistake on the militaries part.
 
[quote name='gamefreak']If he has the papers that say he's through he should win his case. Who knows, it may have been a simple mistake on the militaries part.[/quote]

RTFA:
"Miyasato is not alone. In June, the Army announced as many as 5,600 reservists would be recalled to active duty, particularly those with critical specialties, like Miyasato."
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight'][quote name='gamefreak']If he has the papers that say he's through he should win his case. Who knows, it may have been a simple mistake on the militaries part.[/quote]

RTFA:
"Miyasato is not alone. In June, the Army announced as many as 5,600 reservists would be recalled to active duty, particularly those with critical specialties, like Miyasato."[/quote]

Who knows, maybe it was 5,600 mistakes. Surely President Bush wouldn't have screwed over his supporters!

:rofl:
 
your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a fucking draft.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']No shit it's not a draft. It's just BS, and a just a taste of things to come in the next four years.[/quote]

thats how it has always been. Its nothing new.
 
It is new in the fact that they are doing it. The point of it is this man served his country and thought he was done with it because he did his time. The whole come-back thing is fucking dumb. But hey, Bush is president, get used to it.
 
[quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Nope, its just forcing people who don't want to be in the military to serve, and shipping them off to god-forsaken locations overseas to get their heads blown off.

Wait, that DOES sound somewhat like a draft...
 
[quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.[/quote]

:rofl:

I wouldnt hold your breath. It all sepends on what he did. A close friend of mine drove tanks, and the chances of him going back are slim to none.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.[/quote]

Yeah, but I just noticed this:
In June, the Army announced as many as 5,600 reservists would be recalled to active duty, particularly those with critical specialties, like Miyasato."

I'd like to see PAD go also, but unfortunately I don't think knowing more then 10 derogatory names for an Arab counts as a "critical specialty"
 
[quote name='David85']It is new in the fact that they are doing it. The point of it is this man served his country and thought he was done with it because he did his time. The whole come-back thing is shaq-fuing dumb. But hey, Bush is president, get used to it.[/quote]

Actually it's basically a stop-loss program and the fact that it's being done isn't new, it's been done before on more than one occassion, however the current scale of the program is what's new.

Edit: As for the people that say they should only have a draft from the people in "Jesusland" I hope you realize that people the "red states" are traditionally what makes up a very good portion our military.
 
[quote name='bignick'][quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.[/quote]

:rofl:

I wouldnt hold your breath. It all sepends on what he did. A close friend of mine drove tanks, and the chances of him going back are slim to none.[/quote]

I was a platoon commander in 90-91, in the reserves then too, then did 4 years after graduation active duty. I have about a 1% chance of recall. They don't take back combat troops at this point, they're taking skilled positions in key personnel shortage areas. There's rarely a shortage of qualifed combat leaders in armor, infantry, airborne, helicopter or air mobile forces.

Nick, your buddy is safe at home. Unless we start losing 100 tanks a month (Ain't gonna happen considering we may have lost oh... NONE in combat.) tankers aren't getting recalled.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'][quote name='bignick'][quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.[/quote]

:rofl:

I wouldnt hold your breath. It all sepends on what he did. A close friend of mine drove tanks, and the chances of him going back are slim to none.[/quote]

I was a platoon commander in 90-91, in the reserves then too, then did 4 years after graduation active duty. I have about a 1% chance of recall. They don't take back combat troops at this point, they're taking skilled positions in key personnel shortage areas. There's rarely a shortage of qualifed combat leaders in armor, infantry, airborne, helicopter or air mobile forces.

Nick, your buddy is safe at home. Unless we start losing 100 tanks a month (Ain't gonna happen considering we may have lost oh... NONE in combat.) tankers aren't getting recalled.[/quote]

YOu act as if Iraq is the only war...after we're "done" in Iraq there's Iran and S Korea...you know..the "axis of Evil!!!!!" So hopefully we'll lose enough young men and women to make america realize we can't invade every country that doesn't have a democracy and worship jesus...
 
[quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Thank you, Nick. I knew it sounded like bullcrap. It's only for reservists, people. So far, no draft. Even Selective Services said there would be no draft.
 
The fact that they're reduced to calling up people who left the military a decade ago does not bode well, though.
 
Actually in reading these boards, I now realize why Bush was reelected.

The opinons that people have formed are really, truly interesting.

I always thought veterans came back with a healthy respect for peaceful living, but now it's obvious that some of them come back and "pray for war".

I also see that some are so deeply Fundamentalist that they feel it necessary to vote for Bush, because he is said to be guided by the word of god himself.

There will be plenty of fighting to go around in the coming years, and I hope that these groups are still around to do it.

I'm sure that many can see that the "bloom is off the rose", history and hubris have given the US a big shit sandwich and now everyone's going to have to take a bite. Sure there will be those who delight in the new plight of America, but rest assured that there will also be great leaders and brave actions in the future which may yet guide us through this difficult time.

Efforts by he military and intelligence communities to give the US a decidedly wide advantage / adequate defense when it comes to the nuclear bomb/missle threat have failed miserably. Star wars, the Iraq war, it was all doomed before it began - after all due to better technology and large gaps in the security of failing superpowers, even a country like Pakistan has the nuclear missle.

Nuclear war (past the bombs dropped on Japan) is a concept that is of yet unfathomable for me to comprehend. Ironically the ultimate test of humanity will likely be the way in which we wield the supreme weapon of our own making. I can only hope that when the time comes, we will be mature enough to pass the test.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'][quote name='bignick'][quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='bignick']your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. When you leave military service, you sign a document that says you can be brought back. Its not a shaq-fuing draft.[/quote]

Really? Wow! Thanks, bignick!!! You've made my night. Maybe PAD really will get sent back over to Iraq.[/quote]

:rofl:

I wouldnt hold your breath. It all sepends on what he did. A close friend of mine drove tanks, and the chances of him going back are slim to none.[/quote]

I was a platoon commander in 90-91, in the reserves then too, then did 4 years after graduation active duty. I have about a 1% chance of recall. They don't take back combat troops at this point, they're taking skilled positions in key personnel shortage areas. There's rarely a shortage of qualifed combat leaders in armor, infantry, airborne, helicopter or air mobile forces.

Nick, your buddy is safe at home. Unless we start losing 100 tanks a month (Ain't gonna happen considering we may have lost oh... NONE in combat.) tankers aren't getting recalled.[/quote]

PAD, I got a friend in the CIA who could pull a few strings for you and get you back in the military over in Iraq. Just give me your info. :D

Otherwise, you're nothing but an anti-american weenie.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']PAD, I got a friend in the CIA who could pull a few strings for you and get you back in the military over in Iraq. Just give me your info. :D

Otherwise, you're nothing but an anti-american weenie.[/quote]

Shut up, the CIA can only reavcivate spies and other field operatives.

I have a more powerful freind working with selective services, more specifically she is on the draft board. She is one of the many people who decide who stays and who goes, and she was activated 3 years ago and is on standby.

The draft board also decides which retired veterans get reavtivated.

I was disturbed to see how much control one person can have over the fate of thousands. And I was surprised that age can not be used to totally disqualify someone.
An 87 year old WW2 veteran was activated last year, and he had a 2 month court battle to cancel it.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Even the slimmest chance that PAD will have the chance to put his money where his mouth is makes my mouth water.[/quote]

From what PAD has boasted about himself, it appears that he has trained soldiers and was also a tank commander.

That would make him a specialist. Assuming he is between the ages of 18 and 45 he is elligible for reactivation.
 
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