No, No Media Bias Here: Kerry's Yale Grades FINALLY Disclosed, "D" In PoliSci! BWHAHA

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Yes, it's true. The media finally got to the bottom of John Kerry's grades, nearly 8 months after the 2004 election ended. Why? Because they weren't flattering to Lurch, that's why. Included in Senator Traitor's grades are the following; 4 D's his Freshman year including 2 in history, Political Science and Geology. That's really pretty damn funny. The more "intellectual" of the two according to many in the media, and on this very board, couldn't score above a "D" in Freshman level History and PoliSci 101's?

"I always told my dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said in a written response to reporters' questions. Yeah, and finishing second in outcome based elections is pretty good! I mean you did beat the Libertarian, Communist and Green candidates and you really, really gave Ralph Nader a shlacking!

Good job MSM, you finally did your job 9 months after anyone in the world gave a shit! Nope, no bias here!

Transcript shows Kerry's Yale grades similar to Bush's

BOSTON (AP) — Sen. John F. Kerry's grade average at Yale University was virtually identical to President Bush's record there, despite repeated portrayals of Kerry as the more intellectual candidate during the 2004 presidential campaign.

Kerry had a cumulative average of 76 and got four Ds his freshman year — in geology, two history courses and political science, The Boston Globe reported Tuesday.

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His grades improved with time, and he averaged an 81 his senior year and earned an 89 — his highest grade — in political science as a senior.

"I always told my dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said in a written response to reporters' questions. He said he has previously acknowledged focusing more on learning to fly than studying.

Under Yale's grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade.

In 1999, The New Yorker magazine published a transcript showing Bush had a cumulative grade average of 77 his first three years at Yale, and a similar average under a non-numerical rating system his senior year.

Bush's highest grade at Yale was an 88 in anthropology, history and philosophy. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy, and improved his grades after his freshman year, the transcript showed.

Kerry, a Democrat, previously declined to release the transcript, which was included in his Navy records. He gave the Navy permission to release the documents last month, the Globe reported.

Kerry graduated from Yale in 1966, Bush in 1968.

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[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']And look at where that got him!

Damn elections![/QUOTE]

Even the Cowboys won the superbowl...
 
I fail to see the media bias here. Kerry just released the records. It seems like Fox News should have been hounding Kerry about this last year. I wish we could have had Kerry & Bush go head-to-head on the SATs last year. That would have been hilarious. Even a quiz of state capitals would have been amusing.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']In 1999, The New Yorker magazine published a transcript showing Bush had a cumulative grade average of 77 his first three years at Yale, and a similar average under a non-numerical rating system his senior year.[/QUOTE]

Money is awesome, isn't it?
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']I fail to see the media bias here. Kerry just released the records. It seems like Fox News should have been hounding Kerry about this last year. I wish we could have had Kerry & Bush go head-to-head on the SATs last year. That would have been hilarious. Even a quiz of state capitals would have been amusing.[/QUOTE]

What are we up to over 120 days before he released his records?

No media bias, just Kerry refusing to release records.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']What are we up to over 120 days before he released his records?

No media bias, just Kerry refusing to release records.[/QUOTE]

In case you hadn't noticed, the OP makes it sound like the MSM hid Kerry's record for the last 7 months.

You guys are the sorest bunch of winners I have ever seen. You won. Bush gets to continue his destruction of America. Rejoice! Little bibles for everyone!
 
I am corrected, these came from his Navy records that he finally released.

It still can't be all that hard to get your hands on transcripts of undergrad courses. I can't imagine why he would release these going into the general election. They would have been completely seperate from his military records.

Still, the "D" on Political Science really is amusing. Great picture huh?

Now why hasn't anyone disproved the Swift Vets if his complete records are now publicly available?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I am corrected, these came from his Navy records that he finally released.

It still can't be all that hard to get your hands on transcripts of undergrad courses.

Still, the "D" on Political Science really is amusing. Great picture huh?[/QUOTE]

That D beats Bush's approval rating right now. :lol:
 
One of the benefits of being a second term President with the luxury of knowing your VP isn't running is that your approval rating doesn't mean shit.

I wouldn't give Bush a good approval rating now either. To me he's practically invisible in the scope of debates going on in and around Congress.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']In case you hadn't noticed, the OP makes it sound like the MSM hid Kerry's record for the last 7 months. [/quote]

I could care less what the OP wrote.

[quote name='MrBadExample']You guys are the sorest bunch of winners I have ever seen. You won. Bush gets to continue his destruction of America. Rejoice! Little bibles for everyone![/QUOTE]

I am sure if he was handing out Korans you would be ok with that.

The point is that Kerry delayed and lied about turning over his records. Nothing more, nothing less.

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I am sure if he was handing out Korans you would be ok with that.[/QUOTE]

I'd be really curious to know if you ACTUALLY think people would be ok with that, or if it was just a sarcastic comment.
 
I too like pelting the homeless with rotten fruit and eggs. We drive around late at night on Friday and Saturday and target them from our oversized SUV's.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I could care less what the OP wrote.[/QUOTE]

That just makes you look a little more moronic and uninformed when you're arguing, but I'm okay with that. :)

[quote name='CTLesq']I am sure if he was handing out Korans you would be ok with that.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've stated repeatedly that I'm against any state sponsorship of any religion but I can see where that doesn't fit into your knee-jerk post.

[quote name='CTLesq']The point is that Kerry delayed and lied about turning over his records. Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]

At least Kerry eventually released all of his records. We're still waiting for Bush's National Guard records that prove he fulfilled his commitment.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']One of the benefits of being a second term President with the luxury of knowing your VP isn't running is that your approval rating doesn't mean shit.

I wouldn't give Bush a good approval rating now either. To me he's practically invisible in the scope of debates going on in and around Congress.[/QUOTE]

He'd be a less likely to leave office after being impeached if he had a high approval rating. He also might have a better time with that Social Security demolition, I mean, plan.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']That just makes you look a little more moronic and uninformed when you're arguing, but I'm okay with that. :)[/quote]

No it just means I could care less what PAD writes.


[quote name='MrBadExample']I'm pretty sure I've stated repeatedly that I'm against any state sponsorship of any religion but I can see where that doesn't fit into your knee-jerk post.[/quote]

Feel free to show me where Bush was going to give everyone a little Bible and we can can discuss my "knee-jerk post".

Or was that just more anti-Christian propoganda from you illustrating your anti-Christian bias?


[quote name='MrBadExample']At least Kerry eventually released all of his records. We're still waiting for Bush's National Guard records that prove he fulfilled his commitment.[/QUOTE]

Where did Bush make his records an issue?

Kerry lied.

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Where did Bush make his records an issue?[/QUOTE]

I think it was about the time he became Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I too like pelting the homeless with rotten fruit and eggs. We drive around late at night on Friday and Saturday and target them from our oversized SUV's.[/QUOTE]

someone has been on a roll latley with teh ha ha's
 
Someone once said that C students rule the world.

Well being Americans, we decided to blow this out of the water in our "D Student" versus "Academic Failure" election.

USA USA ;)
 
The values are just misplaced.

I do very well in science and math, and I use logic to solve all problems.

Our rulers are no good at math and science, and get by on their history and english grades. They use religion, and other people interperetations and advice to solve problems.

Einstein invented nucklear fission with his famous matter to energy conversion theory e=mc^2. Our benevolent god-fearing leaders decided that it should be used as a weapon instead of an energy source. If the president had been a scientist, we wouldn't have spent the trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of innocent lives on fission (and fusion) bombs.

But noooo, we just had to have a politikkkal major.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I could care less what the OP wrote.



I am sure if he was handing out Korans you would be ok with that.

The point is that Kerry delayed and lied about turning over his records. Nothing more, nothing less.

CTL[/QUOTE]

Yeah, at least Bush turned over his missing national guard records. Wait, that doesn't sound quite right...
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']The values are just misplaced.

I do very well in science and math, and I use logic to solve all problems.

Our rulers are no good at math and science, and get by on their history and english grades. They use religion, and other people interperetations and advice to solve problems.

Einstein invented nucklear fission with his famous matter to energy conversion theory e=mc^2. Our benevolent god-fearing leaders decided that it should be used as a weapon instead of an energy source. If the president had been a scientist, we wouldn't have spent the trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of innocent lives on fission (and fusion) bombs.

But noooo, we just had to have a politikkkal major.[/QUOTE]


MEOW MEOW FDR MEOW MEOW, MEOW MEOW Harry Truman MEOW MEOW, MEOW MEOW beat Nazi's like you kitten killer MEOW MEOW!
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Where did Bush make his records an issue?

Kerry lied.[/QUOTE]

When he said he completed his National Guard obligations.

Please tell me what these records show that kerry lied about. Did he ever claim to be an A student?

The Right has been awfully quiet about those "band-aid purple hearts" now that we have Kerry's complete military file. Hmmm...
 
[quote name='MrBadExample'] Please tell me what these records show that kerry lied about. Did he ever claim to be an A student?[/quote]

He lied about not turning them over. Over 120 days......

Remember as his candicy was premised on his Vietnam career, certainly it wasn't based on his Senate careet.

[quote name='MrBadExample']The Right has been awfully quiet about those "band-aid purple hearts" now that we have Kerry's complete military file. Hmmm...[/QUOTE]

Thankfully he didn't throw his military file over a fence.

[sarcasm]Oh wait, he threw the microphish over the fence not the actual paper file.[/sarcasm]

CTL
 
He said he would turn them over and he did. He was a fool for not turning them over before the election since they contain accolades from several of the Swift Boat Liars.

Can you honestly say you'd rather serve with Dubya by your side than Kerry? I'm sure Bush is much more fun to drink and *cough*snort cocaine*cough* party with afterwards, but I'd rather not have a deserter next to me.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Remember as his candicy was premised on his Vietnam career, certainly it wasn't based on his Senate careet.[/QUOTE]

No, it wasn't.

Karl Rove got the media to fixate on Kerry's military career so he could attack it.

Kerry himself never used his Vietnam record as a selling point.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']He lied about not turning them over. Over 120 days......

[/QUOTE]


hahaha... Seriously, Bush has been lying to you (and you believing it ) so much that you don't even know what lying is anymore?

Somebody get this kid a dictionary!

How much info information personally and politically has Bush refused to turned over? I would go down the road of not turning stuff over = a lie because it just makes you look hypocritical (at best).
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']No, it wasn't.

Karl Rove got the media to fixate on Kerry's military career so he could attack it.

Kerry himself never used his Vietnam record as a selling point.[/QUOTE]

Well he did do that "Reporting for duty" bit at the convention. But I think he should have played up his service more and shown what kind of chickenhawks we have running the place right now. And what kind of hypocrites they were for attacking his record.
 
as far a grades are concerned... who the F cares? It is the intelligence each candidate displayed in the election.

Bush not knowing the difference between the factions in Iraq is beyond disgusting.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']He said he would turn them over and he did. He was a fool for not turning them over before the election since they contain accolades from several of the Swift Boat Liars.[/quote]

Yeah 120 days later, after the election. Certainly if I made my military experience the centerpiece of my campaign I would make my military records available.

But if you are ok with that kind of delay, who am I to question that?

[quote name='MrBadExample']Can you honestly say you'd rather serve with Dubya by your side than Kerry? I'm sure Bush is much more fun to drink and *cough*snort cocaine*cough* party with afterwards, but I'd rather not have a deserter next to me.[/QUOTE]

You mean as opposed to someone who would testify afterwards that he witnessed me commit war crimes?

I can say this, I approve of the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq.
I voluntered to serve in Iraq under Bush.

I don't care for his every policy, but I am FAR more moderate than you people who would kill him at every turn. I am critical of both the left and right, despite my leanings to the right.

So I think you know where I stand.

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Yeah 120 days later, after the election. Certainly if I made my military experience the centerpiece of my campaign I would make my military records available.

But if you are ok with that kind of delay, who am I to question that?[/quote]

Kerry didn't vow to release all of his military records until he was on Meet the Press in January - 2 months after the election. I've already said he was foolish for not releasing them earlier but he hardly lied about it.

[quote name='CTLesq']You mean as opposed to someone who would testify afterwards that he witnessed me commit war crimes?[/QUOTE]

How about not committing war crimes to begin with? Then you'd be safe.
 
I'm more or less middle of the road, despite the fact that more often than not I learn toward the left. Also I'm not a huge fan of the Bush presidency either. I don't hate him but I'm not really a fan either.


All that having been said, when I saw the thread title I had to laugh. Then I read the first post and was really laughing. I mean come on you guys, just take a step back (on either side) and look at the ridiculousness of politics. Kerry tries to make himself look so much more intelligent than Bush and then he goes ahead and gets grades lower than most fraterneties. Now he gets it shoved in his eye!

Oh and that picture. Good god, if I was him, I'd be more worried about that picture getting out rather than the grades!
 
Yeah that photo is not doing anyone any favors.

I do enjoy how PAD's argument seems to be "Kerry is just as dumb as Bush - Huzzah!" Like that's anything to be proud of.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']Kerry didn't vow to release all of his military records until he was on Meet the Press in January - 2 months after the election. I've already said he was foolish for not releasing them earlier but he hardly lied about it.[/quote]

Just like Bush lied about WMD in Iraq when the rest of the world also believed Hussein had them. You see how easy it is to say someone lied when they didn't?

[quote name='MrBadExample']How about not committing war crimes to begin with? Then you'd be safe.[/QUOTE]

Ah and where exactly did those those claims end up? Dust bin of history?

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Just like Bush lied about WMD in Iraq when the rest of the world also believed Hussein had them. You see how easy it is to say someone lied when they didn't?



Ah and where exactly did those those claims end up? Dust bin of history?

CTL[/QUOTE]

I thought Hussein had WMDs too. But I was listening to Bush, my biggest mistake. Now where did that damn yellow cake go???
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']I thought Hussein had WMDs too. But I was listening to Bush, my biggest mistake. Now where did that damn yellow cake go???[/QUOTE]

If you're going to ask questions like that, I hope your wife isn't an undercover CIA operative.
 
These threads are great!

PAD could write that shit stinks, and MrBadExample and Quackzilla would argue that it doesn't.

Vice versa, likewise.
 
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