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You know, the good thing about hitting the 30s is that you have the ability to afford the finer things in life. As such, I've begun to indulge in the more expensive alcohol. My current favorite is Grey Goose (and Red Bull). I LOVE that it doesn't taste like the Vodka I grew up on (smirnoff). Some other favorites include Silver and Gold Patron Tequila.

I'd like to find a nice rum that is just as inconspicuous as Grey Goose. Does anyone know of such a thing? Being that I am Puertorican I am obligated into drinking Barcardi or Ron Rico but both are rather harsh. Any suggestions?
 
You are puertorican? Shit, I always that you were black. Damn this is the first time I actually thought someone was there avatar.
 
Wow, I had no idea you were Rican. Smirnoff isnt that bad. Grey Goose is pretty good. Ketel One is really good. Anything+Red Bull is awesome. You need to find a way to get some Absinthe. Stuff is MAD good. What kind of Bacardi you drink? Limon, Razz, Melon, O are all awesome.
 
I forgot to mention how Patron Silver is great and the store I work at just got Gran Patron. It looks so tempting but 175 dollars for a fifth is not happening. I swear the stuff looks as clear as water.

Edit: For a new vodka idea, try Armadale. Everyone at my store swears by it and says it's better than Goose and Belve. Plus Jay-Z likes it so it must be good...
 
ketel one is garbage imo, grey goose is king of vodkas. rum, i usually stick to the capitan, and yes you NEED to get absinthe. there are plenty of importers, but it is quite pricey.
 
ive recently fallen in love with southern comfort and bawls... its a sweet brew thatll keep ya up all night and get ya tipsy fast.
 
[quote name='minqqq']ketel one is garbage imo, grey goose is king of vodkas. rum, i usually stick to the capitan, and yes you NEED to get absinthe. there are plenty of importers, but it is quite pricey.[/QUOTE]

Meh. I just buy it in Israel. $10 for a bottle? Can't beat it.
 
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Actually, I stick to regular OG Bacardi. Captain Morgan is good but not very kind the morning after.

I think I'll pick up some Absinthe on my next run.

And yea, I'm Boriqua but only by blood. My own kind think I'm white. That's what I get for growing up in CA.

EDIT: HAHAH! The wife just noticed I bought Grey Goose. Her reaction went something like, "DAYUM! Look at you Mr. Baller!" LOL!
 
[quote name='daphatty']Actually, I stick to OG regular Bacardi. Captain Morgan is good but not very kind the morning after.

I think I'll pick up some Absinthe on my next run.

And yea, I'm Boriqua but only by blood. My own kind think I'm white. That's what I get for growing up in CA.

EDIT: HAHAH! The wife just noticed I bought Grey Goose. Her reaction went something like, "DAYUM! Look at you Mr. Baller!" LOL![/QUOTE]

You do know Absinthe is illegal in the US right?
 
tag for later... I wanna see what some people come up with. I'm not a big vodka fan, but I like Soju (only certain brands... I've got an emtpy bottle upstairs so Ill have to name it later)... Absolut sucks, and so does Skyy, but again... not a huge vodka fan.
 
[quote name='jPoD']You do know Absinthe is illegal in the US right?[/QUOTE]

Actually, no. I guess that begs the obvious question, how do I try something that is illegal here in the states?
 
There are places that you can pay to have them import the stuff to you (horribly expensive tho) Or you can either travel somewhere, or have a CanuckCAGer get a bottle for ya :)
 
I'm a jager freak. Favorite drinks are Red Headed Slut (jager, peach schnapps and cranberry juice; if made right, tastes like sweet peach/cranberry tea!) and Black holes aka Starry Night aka Golden Nazi (my fav name because of the shock value), which is jager and goldschlager. Though about vodka. Grey Goose is good, but my favorite is 3, just simply called 3. Its distilled from soy or something like that. Yeah, that sounds nasty but the stuff makes Grey Goose taste like Aristocrate vodka.

But for the past year or so, since I'm broke as all hell, I buy Skol vodka (12 bucks for a half gallon). Its the cheapest I can find that is decent. What I wouldn't do for a half gallon of jager though!!! 50 bucks for a half gallon here though. It seriously sucks living in a state where you can ONLY buy alcohol in an ABC store. Count yourselves lucky!
 
cheapest way to get hard liquor is costco. jack daniels, kaluha, smirnoff vodka you name it, it is all much cheaper at costco(or probably sams club)
 
[quote name='dracula']cheapest way to get hard liquor is costco. jack daniels, kaluha, smirnoff vodka you name it, it is all much cheaper at costco(or probably sams club)[/quote]

I fucking envy you!!! lol
 
Don't let the price fool you, Svedka vodka is a close comparison to Grey Goose, but at half the price.
 
[quote name='daphatty']Actually, I stick to regular OG Bacardi. Captain Morgan is good but not very kind the morning after.

I think I'll pick up some Absinthe on my next run.

And yea, I'm Boriqua but only by blood. My own kind think I'm white. That's what I get for growing up in CA.

EDIT: HAHAH! The wife just noticed I bought Grey Goose. Her reaction went something like, "DAYUM! Look at you Mr. Baller!" LOL![/QUOTE]

Honestly, all you get with the high-end vodkas is a fancy bottle and bragging rights. Pay $7-10 less for a fifth of Tito's Handmade Vodka and you not only get a significantly smoother (!) and more subdued vodka, but you lose the pretentious "I think I'm a liquor snob but I just buy what everyone else does" stink.

Without going into *great* detail, absinthe is legal in the states, but not legal for sale. You can own it, you can import it, you can drink it, you can brag about it. The only thing you can't do with it is sell it retail or in a bar.

There is a chemical component of wormwood (the base part of the Absinthe mash) called thujone. Remember it, as there *are* legal absinthes in the states, but they either lack wormwood entirely (and are more akin to the French patisse, which was what was made when Absinthe was briefly outlawed there and in the Czech Republic (well, it wasn't called the Republic then, but you know)). Thujone is legally regulated as a *poison* in the states, so that's why you can't sell it retail/in bars. If you check out your local brewing supply store, they'll invariably have some wormwood with the spices/sugars, and it will have your typical kind of rat poison "do not ingest" sorts of warnings on it. It's a legal necessity, and doesn't need to be strictly heeded.

Now, importing real absinthe is for a true, *ahem*, "balla." The shit isn't cheap. The American substitutes, or at least those that have the thujone-extracted wormwood mash, taste virtually identical, and have the unique aftereffects of genuine absinthe. A less refined palette won't notice the difference between the real thing and the "decaf" version, in flavor or in fucking you up. Be careful to avoid those lacking wormwood, as they won't make you feel as nice.

It does have a righteous fucking hangover, however. Just a forewarning.

As far as rum goes, I will assume you mean dark rums, because clear rum doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned. I've found two that are very excellent dark rums: Sailor Jerry (the best) is a nice caramel color, perfect spice, very little burn, and not too sweet. OTOH, Panama Jack (yes, that fuckin' 1980's guy) Rum is like Captain Morgan, but with the recipe tweaked to make it slightly smoother and more flavorful. Both are perfectly good neat or on the rocks, which is more than I can say for the ol' cuba libre fave, Mr. Morgan.

Though, someone earlier mentioned that Patron makes a rum. If it's anything like their silver tequila, it's definitely worth trying. By the way, if you shoot Patron, you're an asshole. That's sipping vodka. Go eat the fuckin' worm with your two-dollar bottle of mezcal. You *savor* Patron. No rocks, though it is nice chilled.

Don't ignore my mentioning Tito's. You will thank me.

So much for being brief. Oh well.
 
Honestly, if you want a really cheap ass route to good vodka, get some cheap shit and a britta filter. Run the vodka through a few times, and voila, you have a distilled vodka that is like Ketel One and such. Personally, I've never tried it, but know a few that have and claim that it works.
 
[quote name='daphatty']I LOVE that it doesn't taste like the Vodka I grew up on (smirnoff).[/QUOTE]

Did your mother put Smirnoff in your bottle when you were a baby?
 
Of Vodkas, unlike some others here I enjoy Ketel One. I also second a previous mention of Svedka, which is very reasonably priced. My favorite, however is Ciroc, which is from France and made cold distilled from frost grapes. I find it extremely smooth. I also second Tito's handmade.

With regard to rums, call me old fashioned, but I still prefer Myers Dark Rum when choosing from the reasonably priced aisle. I'm also a fan of Trader Vic's Dark and Whalers Dark as well. For something different, you also might want to try Mount Gay Extra Old, very smooth and smoky and especially Mount Gay Sugar Cane Brandy, which may also be labeled as Mount Gay Sugar Cane Rum.

I don't think you'll go wrong with any of these choices...
 
Had a great liquor called Cuarenta y Tres the other night...I guess it's a Brazillian drink made with 43 different herbs and spices (hence the name...) I ate at Sal y Carvao for my birthday dinner and they served it in a huge ice-encrusted pitcher after the meal. It was very sweet, very smooth and hit the spot almost instantly. my chest was warm all night :)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Honestly, all you get with the high-end vodkas is a fancy bottle and bragging rights. Pay $7-10 less for a fifth of Tito's Handmade Vodka and you not only get a significantly smoother (!) and more subdued vodka, but you lose the pretentious "I think I'm a liquor snob but I just buy what everyone else does" stink.

Without going into *great* detail, absinthe is legal in the states, but not legal for sale. You can own it, you can import it, you can drink it, you can brag about it. The only thing you can't do with it is sell it retail or in a bar.

There is a chemical component of wormwood (the base part of the Absinthe mash) called thujone. Remember it, as there *are* legal absinthes in the states, but they either lack wormwood entirely (and are more akin to the French patisse, which was what was made when Absinthe was briefly outlawed there and in the Czech Republic (well, it wasn't called the Republic then, but you know)). Thujone is legally regulated as a *poison* in the states, so that's why you can't sell it retail/in bars. If you check out your local brewing supply store, they'll invariably have some wormwood with the spices/sugars, and it will have your typical kind of rat poison "do not ingest" sorts of warnings on it. It's a legal necessity, and doesn't need to be strictly heeded.

Now, importing real absinthe is for a true, *ahem*, "balla." The shit isn't cheap. The American substitutes, or at least those that have the thujone-extracted wormwood mash, taste virtually identical, and have the unique aftereffects of genuine absinthe. A less refined palette won't notice the difference between the real thing and the "decaf" version, in flavor or in fucking you up. Be careful to avoid those lacking wormwood, as they won't make you feel as nice.

It does have a righteous fucking hangover, however. Just a forewarning.

As far as rum goes, I will assume you mean dark rums, because clear rum doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned. I've found two that are very excellent dark rums: Sailor Jerry (the best) is a nice caramel color, perfect spice, very little burn, and not too sweet. OTOH, Panama Jack (yes, that fuckin' 1980's guy) Rum is like Captain Morgan, but with the recipe tweaked to make it slightly smoother and more flavorful. Both are perfectly good neat or on the rocks, which is more than I can say for the ol' cuba libre fave, Mr. Morgan.

Though, someone earlier mentioned that Patron makes a rum. If it's anything like their silver tequila, it's definitely worth trying. By the way, if you shoot Patron, you're an asshole. That's sipping vodka. Go eat the fuckin' worm with your two-dollar bottle of mezcal. You *savor* Patron. No rocks, though it is nice chilled.

Don't ignore my mentioning Tito's. You will thank me.

So much for being brief. Oh well.[/QUOTE]

Excellent response. Thanks for the explanation. Definitely the kind of insight I was looking for. Although, I will say that I'm strictly interested in taste. Alcohol snobs, IMO, drink wine. I hate that shit.


[quote name='HumanSnatcher']Honestly, if you want a really cheap ass route to good vodka, get some cheap shit and a britta filter. Run the vodka through a few times, and voila, you have a distilled vodka that is like Ketel One and such. Personally, I've never tried it, but know a few that have and claim that it works.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I wasn't looking for a cheap alcohol thrill. I have money now. Not a baller but enough to splurge a little. That's what happens when you hit your thrities. ;)

[quote name='markingsmart']Did your mother put Smirnoff in your bottle when you were a baby?[/QUOTE]

Have you hit 16 yet? That's all we were able to afford back then, especially since we had to shoulder tap for it. :lol: Those shoulder tap tips ate into our booze money.
 
Captain is the best rum for the money....there's a lot of Carribean rum that puts our stuff to shame...but unless you've got a way to get down there or to import it, you're SOL...

Silver Patron is the only Tequila...Gold and Gran aren't worth the money, but if you're impressin gold diggers its all about bottle price

Vodka is vodka unless you're comparing ABC Store Brand to Belle or you have a shitty bartender, as soon as you mix it properly it disappears...

And if you're still havin problems makin the rum disappear you can up the quantities 1/3 to 1/5 (but then you gotta drink more to get the same buzz, but I'm sure if you were goin for shitfaced you wouldnt be worried about maskin the flavor) you can chill it, I know cold rum sounds gross, but it works, or you can splash fruit juice....lime cuts the hell out it, but then you also wind up getting a citrus flavored rum, and you gotta get away from Bacardi I always had the worst hangovers after a Bacardi night
 
[quote name='Apossum']Had a great liquor called Cuarenta y Tres[/QUOTE]

Mmm...triple sec for the discriminating drinker. j/k, of course. Well, sort of.

[quote name='daphatty']Excellent response. Thanks for the explanation. Definitely the kind of insight I was looking for. Although, I will say that I'm strictly interested in taste. Alcohol snobs, IMO, drink wine. I hate that shit.[/quote]

Glad to be of service. Be glad you weren't asking about beer, as I know far more about that! :lol: Taste/snobbery go hand in hand. I understand that you want a smooth, drinkable vodka more than you want to be able to swish and puff it in your mouth as you pontificate whether that's a currant or toffee essence you're tasting (I know, you won't find those in a vodka, but they're the most commonly used flavor adjectives that indicate to me people don't know what the fuck they're saying but can spit a good game). On the other hand, having knowledge can help you select a good beverage, no matter what you're looking for. Being able to distinguish what you like will help you select a bottle. Label/store descriptions are 40% truth, 60% marketing. But if you know you like a buttery, rather than fruity, chardonnay (even if you aren't a wine drinker), then you can pick up a bottle of whateverthefuck (and that's truly how I read every wine label since there are so many potnetially great and potentially dreadful bottles you can get, relative to spirits anyway) and feel confident that you won't spit it out. It's useful.

Absinthe is a drink that creates fantastic opinions of itself. It has a *VERY* (and I don't mean this lightly) strong anise (black licorice) flavor. If you buy some yourself, mix 1 part absinthe to three parts filtered/distilled water. Add one sugarcube for every 6 oz of the mixed drink you'll be having. This is definitely a sipping drink. Now, not everyone likes anise, but the results from absinthe are, at the very least, worth experimenting. So, this goes for you and others. If you don't know if you'll like absinthe, order a clear (NOT black!) sambuca, served up in a red wine glass with water (no rocks). If you can stomach that, absinthe shouldn't be too difficult. It's worth trying once.

Strangely enough, I'm not only in the mood for fancy liquor now, but a nice cigar as well. Not that I know shit about cigars. I'm just sayin.
 
Anise is the main flavor I taste in Jager, and I love that shit (though I HATE black licorice). I really don't know much about alcohol at all. My favorite beer is Guiness, and my favorite shot is Jager, but most of the drinks I like are based on me trying them and having fun, rather than relying on others to tell me what is good... I could really go for an irish car bomb right now '-')b
 
I like Johnnie Walker black & green are good. I've never owned a bottle only drank it at a bar. At stores I think they're $40 and $60 a 750ml bottle respectively in Ohio.

My friend recommends Gentleman Jack says good flavor and real smooth $50 for a 750 ml bottle.
 
Put me in the "I thought you were black" club.


I don't really drink had alcohol anymore, but if I do it's all about Jack Daniels. Most of my friends don't like Jack so sometimes I go with Crown Royal, which has a similar but sweeter taste. Being a Mexican, I'm always around tequila. Can't go wrong with Patron, but being that I'm a 21 year old college student, I don't have the funds to drink it on a regular basis. I usually drink Jose Cuervo and Sauza is also a nice substitute.

But when it all comes down to it, beer is my drink of choice.
 
I'd never really had tequila outside of margaritas until the other day... picked up a bottle of jose cuervo black and had 2 half-glasses on ice.... daaaaaaaaamn... that shit fucked me up bad.
 
[quote name='Metal Boss']I stopped drinking after the first liver transplant[/QUOTE]


meh, your liver will always grow back anyways... why not drink yourself stupid.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']Honestly, if you want a really cheap ass route to good vodka, get some cheap shit and a britta filter. Run the vodka through a few times, and voila, you have a distilled vodka that is like Ketel One and such. Personally, I've never tried it, but know a few that have and claim that it works.[/QUOTE]

It does taste better but it takes out a lot of alcohol. So, what's the point?
 
[quote name='daphatty']You know, the good thing about hitting the 30s is that you have the ability to afford the finer things in life. As such, I've begun to indulge in the more expensive alcohol. My current favorite is Grey Goose (and Red Bull). I LOVE that it doesn't taste like the Vodka I grew up on (smirnoff). Some other favorites include Silver and Gold Patron Tequila.[/quote]
I'll have to echo what some of the people here are saying...my tastes have definitely grown more towards the expensive side since I've been trying them.

Silver Patron....nasty aftertaste. Ickth.

Gold Patron....better, but not quite there yet.

Patron Platinum....even better, but yeah, 2 bills a bottle is painful.

The surprise of the bunch was Jose' Cuervo Limited Reserve....for about 120 bucks, it's the smoothest of the bunch. Brought a bottle to a party and the entire room had the same reaction to drinking it:

*smacks lips*.......wow, that's smooth.

Not a lot of experience in the scotch department (I've only had Johnny Blue, but damn....).

Alcohol...talk about an expensive habit when your sole goal isn't to just get drunk...*sigh* :roll:

*edit* BTW, supposedly there's a 300+ dollar bottle of some kind of Don Julio tequila...that's next on the list to try :)
 
I stick to Captain Morgan for rum. All rums are harsh IMO but you could always just mix it with coke...works for some people. I prefer to just drink it straight though.
 
I can't say I know too much about alcohol. The stuff I know well is the average college student stuff like Jager and various vodkas. As far as rum, I reccomend Appleton if you can get it. What does everyone reccomend in the way of whiskey (besides Jack, I want something worth drinking)?

To myke: being the experienced beer patron that you are, what's your opinion of hard ciders? I'm hooked on Woodchuck, both the Pear and the Granny Smith. Also, I'd like to hear any opinions you have of mead.

I would like to say this though: I advise everyone in this thread to go find a bottle of Barenjager right now. It's basically honey liquor, and it's absolute fucking sex. Throw out every bottle of cold medicine you have and just buy a bottle of this stuff. Two shots will clear your headache and sinuses faster than you can even comprehend.

Also, tequila is devil piss and you should just stop drinking it, now.
 
Mmm...triple sec for the discriminating drinker. j/k, of course. Well, sort of.


not even close-- triple sec is basically fermented orange Triaminic with an extra cup of saccharine in every bottle. 43 had a smooth, complex but earthy flavor with vanilla overtones. I guarantee if you pulled a switch on someone with triple sec, you'd be on the ground and bleeding in no time! :lol: at best, triple sec is 43's younger, stillborn sibling.

I'd never buy a bottle of either though...maker's mark or silver patron are what I buy when I get liquor (read: almost never.)

edit: i wanna know about mead too...the concept has always intrigued me-- does it taste anything like honey or what? Can you buy it any liquor store? I might get a bottle for my family's fathers day gathering..
 
[quote name='Apossum']edit: i wanna know about mead too...the concept has always intrigued me-- does it taste anything like honey or what? Can you buy it any liquor store? I might get a bottle for my family's fathers day gathering..[/QUOTE]

It's insanely sweet, it tastes like candy wine to me. I'm curious though as to what discerning drinkers consider "good" mead.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']I can't say I know too much about alcohol. The stuff I know well is the average college student stuff like Jager and various vodkas. As far as rum, I reccomend Appleton if you can get it. What does everyone reccomend in the way of whiskey (besides Jack, I want something worth drinking)?

To myke: being the experienced beer patron that you are, what's your opinion of hard ciders? I'm hooked on Woodchuck, both the Pear and the Granny Smith. Also, I'd like to hear any opinions you have of mead.

I would like to say this though: I advise everyone in this thread to go find a bottle of Barenjager right now. It's basically honey liquor, and it's absolute fucking sex. Throw out every bottle of cold medicine you have and just buy a bottle of this stuff. Two shots will clear your headache and sinuses faster than you can even comprehend.

Also, tequila is devil piss and you should just stop drinking it, now.[/quote]

I love Woodchuck too...It is the shit. Its the best draft you can get in my opinion.
 
[quote name='Banshee350']I love Woodchuck too...It is the shit. Its the best draft you can get in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

It's an awesome laxative as well. Drink 2 or 3 on day one, and you'll have the best shit of your life on day two.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']It's an awesome laxative as well. Drink 2 or 3 on day one, and you'll have the best shit of your life on day two.[/quote]

lol...true that. I once drank 12 in one day...barely made it to the toilet when I had to go. :lol:
 
[quote name='Ledhed']What does everyone reccomend in the way of whiskey (besides Jack, I want something worth drinking)?[/QUOTE]
First off, fuck you.

Second, I would suggest Maker's Mark. Gentleman's Jack is really good, as is Single Barrel, but since you don't like Jack you might not like them.

Don't try Knob Creek, because I know your vaginal arteries couldn't handle it.
 
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