Novak: Too Hot for TV!

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Well, it's certainly nothing that's too risque given most of the conversations here, but that doesn't make it any less funny. America's "douchebag of liberty" seems to be showing some signs of cracking. Good times, good times.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508040004

There's not so much to debate here, but click the link, watch, and enjoy.
 
Novak is a disgusting POS. This man I would NEVER trust with anything I knew in Washington. He's like all rats, they scurry when the light shines on em' and if caught will do anything to get away. I'm surprised he hasn't been murdered already by powerful people he's ratted on unless this is a first.
Speaking of which, if Rove is found guilty, knowingly or unknowingly, he should receive life in prison. JMO.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']This man I would NEVER trust with anything I knew in Washington.[/QUOTE]

That's the thing about Novak; he'd still find out somehow. His connections are impeccable, and that's why he is in the position he is in.

I'm still trying not to throw a "why isn't he being given the Miller/Cooper treatment!?!?!" bitchfest yet; I truly believe there is a good reason for that, and I look forward to hearing what it is.
 
Fox & Friends showed the clip this morning and E.D. Hill (in her infinite wisdom :roll: ) used it as a excuse to bash CNN. She opined that it was wrong that Carville and the other guy didn't react to Novak walking out. She said on Fox they would have badgered anyone who walked out - Why are you leaving? What's wrong? Where are you going?

That's somehow better?
 
Well, of course they'll bash CNN; it's the competition.

I think something that needs to be stressed here is that (1) Novak knew ahead of time that he was going to be asked about the Plame case, and left before that happened, and (2) Novak and Carville behave like that *ALL THE TIME* and it's nothing new at all.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, of course they'll bash CNN; it's the competition. [/QUOTE]
I know they constantly bash CNN, but this just seemed like a really weak reason to do it.

Plus I don't get their need to run down CNN all the time when Fox has better ratings. It's like if Katie Couric started off each show with "Good Morning America sucks!" Pretty childish.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Decent, sane people can only take so much wacko liberal nonsense so I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

But you left something out. Decent sane people can only take so much wacko conservative nonsense too.

So please, walk away from the table.
 
So, here's how it went down, as I listen on Media Matters:

Carville: I'll tell you this. Bob...

Novak: James, just let me finish what I have to say. I know you hate to hear me (during this time, Carville is saying "Wow. Wow. Wow.")

Carville: He's gotta show these right wingers that he's got backbone, y'know. The Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show 'em you're tough.

Novak: Well I think that's bullshit, and I hate that. Just let it go.

At this point, Novak hesitates for a minute, then puts his hand on the table, then realizes what he's done, then gets up and walks off. So, what was it that set Novak off. Some people have speculated that it was staged because he was going to be asked about Plame. After watching the clip numerous times, I don't think so. Novak gets genuinely angry when Carville mentions the Wall Street Journal editorial page. More likely, I think, is that there is some subtext, some inside knowledge that Carville has (probably from Matalin) and that he sprung on Novak mid-show to produce a reaction. He got it.

Can we speculate on what that inside information could be, just as an exercise? I think it might be something like this: The conservative kooks at the WSJ Editorial Page think Novak rolled over on the Plame leak, and they are shunning him from the conservative social scene. That's why Novak had to come out with that asinine column last week, and that's why Carville says that he has to show them that he's "tough." They think he sang like a bird, so he has to "show these right wingers that he has backbone." It's probably the talk in these elite conservative circles that Novak is a coward and couldn't protect Rove and the President in the face of the Grand Jury investigation. And Novak knows it. This was possibly a sly personal shot at Novak. I don't really see how this seemingly innocuous statement by Carville could have produced such ire and panic for Novak otherwise. He actually looked like he was ready to hit Carville. Very interesting.
 
Do you think that Carville and Novak dislike each other to that extent, given the history of their collaboration on television? What surprises me is that Carville and Novak always treated each other this way. I think it's the way two close friends or family members might take political potshots at each other; yeah, there are sporadic low blows, but as people they still get along famously (and would thusly steer clear of real hard hitting shots).

I am also very skeptical that Matalin tells Carville *anything* he could use against her party. I'm not into the politics meets pro wrestling world of Crossfire, but Carville and Matalin on Meet the Press is always a treat.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']He is either drunk, on painkillers, or both.[/QUOTE]


I heard they replaced his heart with a piece of coal, just no one has noticed the difference
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']So, here's how it went down, as I listen on Media Matters:

Carville: I'll tell you this. Bob...

Novak: James, just let me finish what I have to say. I know you hate to hear me (during this time, Carville is saying "Wow. Wow. Wow.")

Carville: He's gotta show these right wingers that he's got backbone, y'know. The Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show 'em you're tough.

Novak: Well I think that's bullshit, and I hate that. Just let it go.

At this point, Novak hesitates for a minute, then puts his hand on the table, then realizes what he's done, then gets up and walks off. So, what was it that set Novak off. Some people have speculated that it was staged because he was going to be asked about Plame. After watching the clip numerous times, I don't think so. Novak gets genuinely angry when Carville mentions the Wall Street Journal editorial page. More likely, I think, is that there is some subtext, some inside knowledge that Carville has (probably from Matalin) and that he sprung on Novak mid-show to produce a reaction. He got it.

Can we speculate on what that inside information could be, just as an exercise? I think it might be something like this: The conservative kooks at the WSJ Editorial Page think Novak rolled over on the Plame leak, and they are shunning him from the conservative social scene. That's why Novak had to come out with that asinine column last week, and that's why Carville says that he has to show them that he's "tough." They think he sang like a bird, so he has to "show these right wingers that he has backbone." It's probably the talk in these elite conservative circles that Novak is a coward and couldn't protect Rove and the President in the face of the Grand Jury investigation. And Novak knows it. This was possibly a sly personal shot at Novak. I don't really see how this seemingly innocuous statement by Carville could have produced such ire and panic for Novak otherwise. He actually looked like he was ready to hit Carville. Very interesting. [/QUOTE]

thanks for the breakdown. i don't have sound on my work computer :D
 
"I can't wait to go to jail and become someone's bitch. It's so stressful having to run the country. Some fresh man-meat in my mouth will really be therapeutic! Hopefull Bulldog won't cramp my style. I can't be held down by just one man! "

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