Now I know why there's such a poor stigma associated with E-Bayers

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davo1224

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I tried selling two bundles on CL. Both were $50 with 10 games for the N64 and GC, respectively. I only name the more well known games and then I answer any e-mails, phone calls, about the rest.


N64 Responses
Mr. X wants to know what games I have. I list the filler titles. Don't get a response.

Mr. Y wants to know what other games I have. I give him the whole list and he says he'll give me half of what I'm asking for if the games are mint complete. Now I know being a CAG that it doesn't hurt to ask but we also have reasonable expectations here. No one is going to give away mint/complete StarFox, Goldeneye, Quest 64, Super Mario 64, etc. AND a Nintendo 64 console for only $25. Loose/stickered up, sure. I told him that he'd have better luck finding Bobby Fisher. Obviously he got the hint.

I finally got an honest response and someone bought it. Some kids that didn't have much money so I threw two more games and memory cards in (Turok 2 and Excitebike).


Gamecube Responses
Mr. X again wanting to know what titles I have. Mind you, the title says "Kids and Sports Games". I deleted his e-mail outright. I hate how hustlers who have to have a fucking "map" in front of them. It's insulting to the sellers and makes the buyer look like an idiot.

Mr. Y wants to know if I have the games in mint/complete. They're Gamecube so it's a better chance granted but I tell him that mint/complete costs $10 more each game. I intentionally told him to fuck off because he's not an honest prospective buyer.

Then the kicker. The stupid, lazy, wants to get rich quick, stay at home, soccer-mom version of the EBayer. I wish I still had the e-mails in my inbox. She starts off innocently enough looking for a game list for her daughter. It includes StarFox Adventures, Nickelodeon licensed stuff, Pac-Man, Pikmin, Soccer, etc. She tells me that she's sorry but wasn't interested in those games. Curious, I ask her what ones she wanted as I also have Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, etc. Imagine the amazement on my face when she replies with the following (paraphrased),

"I'm looking for RPGs and especially Mario DDR sealed. My daughter wants that so bad."

Oh ok. So you're daughter is not only an RPG fan but also an avid video game collector? Riiiiight.
 
I'm not going to make assumptions about your disposition based on a post on an internet forum, that'd be ridiculous, but if I were given this thread and told to make an assertion I'd assume you simply hated people. Not to get personal, it's just that this particular post makes you seem unreasonably bitter and jaded.

I would not consider any of what you encountered to be upsetting.


[quote name='thingsfallnapart']Does it not surprise you that perhaps someone wants to actually play mario DDR instead of collect it, maybe?[/QUOTE]

The buyer asked, specifically, for a sealed copy. I find it unlikely that (s)he wanted to play it. But still, the point remains two fold -- what's so unbelievable about a girl collecting videogames? Perhaps her birthday was coming up and she collects videogames. Perhaps the parent was just going by her list. Who knows? And furthermore, even if the daughter didn't exist and was simply a ploy, why does it matter? A seller sells things. A buyer buys things. Both will try to tilt the deal in their favor. Play the game or don't buy/sell things second-hand.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']Does it not surprise you that perhaps someone wants to actually play mario DDR instead of collect it, maybe?[/quote]Then why sealed?
 
I do like games sealed, but she got to specific when she said RPG's and DDR. Those games are for a quick turn around.
 
Ebay turnaround or not, you can't go around assuming everything. Back when I was in my video game buying prime, I wanted all my games sealed regardless of their collectors value. If all you do is assume and judge everyone as a seller, good luck selling. Seems like more of a chore then it's worth.
 
It is shady to list only a few titles in a bundle. If you aren't up front and honest don't expect potential buyers to be up front and respectable.
 
All signs point to eBay turnaround, sure. But it's still anyone's right to flip stuff on eBay. OP, you politely tell these people to fuck off, that's fine. But they are on CL for a reason, mainly because they CAN find RPGs and sealed DDRs and flip them.
 
I have no problem with people flipping. I'm just moreso insulted by how poorly it's done. If you're gonna lie, atleast make it believable/follow through with it. You're not gonna get something from me for less than Ebay price if you make it obvious that's where it's headed.
 
[quote name='davo1224']I have no problem with people flipping. I'm just moreso insulted by how poorly it's done. If you're gonna lie, atleast make it believable/follow through with it. You're not gonna get something from me for less than Ebay price if you make it obvious that's where it's headed.[/QUOTE]

Well your hiding parts of the bundle to get exposure and replies...so don't complain when you get ebay hunters at your doorstep.
 
I'm sorry. Next time I'll list those NFL QB Clubs and Maddens next time. I thought that sports titles would be a sufficive description.
 
Granted, it's most likely she wanted to eBay her finds but as others have said, there might be a chance that she actually wanted a new copy.

She might've wanted the RPGs for her sons and maybe a new Mario DDR because she didn't want other people's feet germs.

But it's more than likely she was looking for stuff to eBay.
 
Out of curiosity, if the bundles only had 10 games, why would you list half of the games but not the others? I could understand if it's 50+ games, or even 25+...but 10 games isn't a lot to list

If you don't want to deal with people asking questions, you might consider just listing all the games and their conditions.
 
I only listed the ones that I knew people would be interested in. A sale won't live or die by which version of a sports game I have. People are interested in the Marios, Goldeneyes, etc. I did tell a known E-Bayer one time though that I had "2 Snowboard Kids" though and I got four replies to my one e-mail. Great stuff.
 
[quote name='davo1224']I only listed the ones that I knew people would be interested in. A sale won't live or die by which version of a sports game I have. People are interested in the Marios, Goldeneyes, etc. I did tell a known E-Bayer one time though that I had "2 Snowboard Kids" though and I got four replies to my one e-mail. Great stuff.[/QUOTE]

Do you even use ebay? I would never bid on an auction with 20 games and they only list 10 of them. Hell, I woudn't bid at all if you didn't include any pictures. You deserve all the e-mails you get by not posting what the hell they would potentially be buying.
 
Yeah, Ebayers are such assholes.

but if there's potential for flipping, lets use a hypothetical example, games that cost $16.96 at one store for $70 in profit at another, it's all fair game.


anyway, yeah, those people were trying to ebay that stuff. oh well, don't let it keep you up.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Do you even use ebay? I would never bid on an auction with 20 games and they only list 10 of them. Hell, I woudn't bid at all if you didn't include any pictures. You deserve all the e-mails you get by not posting what the hell they would potentially be buying.[/quote]
You're pretty much the type of person I'm looking to stay far away from when selling but uh thanks for the advice or something.
 
Yeah, I totally agree with you OP and others, all people who sell stuff on ebay are evil. I'm glad somebody finally had the balls to come out and say it.

/sarcasm
 
[quote name='davo1224']You're pretty much the type of person I'm looking to stay far away from when selling but uh thanks for the advice or something.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the guy who takes pictures of items and lists exactly what they are. I can see why I am such an asshole with my 580+ ebay feedback :roll:

Sorry, I should list things like
"xbox for sale with 20 games. halo and stuff'
with a generic picture of an Xbox.

I'll do that for now on.
 
[quote name='davo1224']"I'm looking for RPGs and especially Mario DDR sealed. My daughter wants that so bad."

Oh ok. So you're daughter is not only an RPG fan but also an avid video game collector? Riiiiight.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I just read the entire thing.

You are an idiot and deserve to have everyone of your craigslist postings reported. So because her daughter likes RPGs (and there is not even a single rare one on the Cube you idiot), and she wants a Mario Dance game (which is not even that rare anymore) you deem her a collector who wants to make a quick buck? How dare she asked for a sealed copy of Mario DDR! We all want used worn in dance pads they may not even work. Wow. I'm sure she will sell those uber rare copies of, uhh, what, Skies of Arcadia for $10! Ugh.
 
[quote name='yukine']I'm with GizmoGC on this one, if you don't want people asking you about which games you have then list them![/QUOTE]

No, he would rather sort through 20 e-mails saying "what are the other games" and then having to type them for every person. See, its like a bait and switch type tactic. He wants them to e-mail him, and then when they ask about the games, GOTCHA, he lists them and instant sale! Ebay is evil because of this reason. On ebay you have to list each game. Those jerks.
 
Im sure this has been asked but: Why didnt you just list all the games? That is just stupid on your part. By only listing 10 of 20, you falsely give people an adrenaline rush that you might have X and Y game.
 
[quote name='help1']Im sure this has been asked but: Why didnt you just list all the games? That is just stupid on your part. By only listing 10 of 20, you falsely give people an adrenaline rush that you might have X and Y game.[/QUOTE]

If he did that then he wouldn't have this hilarious thread where he makes fun of people who ask about the other games as they are simply ebayer's who want to make money and kill children. A true buyer would buy the entire lot without asking any questions.
 
"Now I know why there's such a poor stigma associated with E-Bayers"?

After reading the OP's post and negative disposition, now I know why people would rather buy from ebay than save money on craigslist. Before finalizing a deal, isn't it important to know all the details? If you were buying used truck and saw an ad that said, "2000 blue Ford Pickup. New tires. Runs like new. $5000," I would imagine you'd still want to know more about the vehicle (even though the most important part is that it runs)
 
so OP, is this the right way to post on Craig's List?--
http://madison.craigslist.org/ele/367714568.html


no pictures, no description, no titles, just one line, all in capitals and a price. :lol:


anyway, the moral of the story-- if people are asking what games you have and clue you in to what's valuable and what isn't, then sell that stuff on Ebay yourself, smart one :lol:

I know you think you're selling it to a poor, needy orphan whose last wish is to play Mario DDR, and I commend you for that, but the truth is, the orphan is just going to sell it on ebay too. and use the profits to buy crack.
 
Poor analogy. Asking more details about a car is not like asking about the other games. It would be more akin to asking what brand/smells the free air fresheners were.

Mind you, I already said that I noted the important games and then simply said that there's sports games so that's a moot point to debate. Unless Ogre Battle or Harvest Moon is a sports title, the listing was pretty simple to understand and shouldn't have warranted responses from the usual lazy asses looking to make a quick buck.

Mind you, I've already discussed what my actual problems were but some guy on here feels the need to post four times in between my responses talking about how I go what I deserved (?) and how good his E-Bay feedback is. Congrats. The people who sell to you have far more patience than I do if you're the type to ask for dirt cheap mint/complete N64 games where it's very unlikely unless noted.

Before I go, let me play devil's advocate against myself. Maybe she DOES want a new Mario DDR. Wanting that isn't unreasonable. Heck, maybe she even enjoys characters in RPGs. Hmmm, it gets a little coincidental though when sealed is used in place of new AND it's online AND it just happens to be a very rare game AND rpgs, the equivalent of a CAG's crack, were also asked for. Maybe her daughter just happens to be a Baten Kaitos fiend though. Who knows.
 
Honestly, I got to be like the OP when listing some items in a local ad paper for sale(including an ad for game guides, for $5 each :whistle2:D)and getting people asking 'well, why are you getting rid of it?' and then I answer that with 'I don't need it anymore' or whatever, then I get asked another littany of questions.

Then, you have the assholes who say "I'm interested, when can I stop by to look at it?" and then the dicks never show up and call back 2 months later and repeat.

The last call I got from one of these game players was from the same person(voice was similar)who had asked me if I could go any cheaper on my price on a PC I was selling. I said 'yeah, I could knock off a bit', but my price was still high or I got the 'I could get that from xyz company for cheaper'. Needless to say, I gave him a chance, he never showed, I felt like an ass, end of story.

I lost my patience with people like this a LONG time ago, having originally only listed my OLD PC for sale and getting the usual string of CL scammers trying to get me to ship it to them and they'll ship me a cashier's check.

As soon as people started asking me 20 questions, questions I didn't feel I had to answer such as, 'well, why do you need the money instead of the computer'(to which I should've replied 'because im addicted to crack and smoking it with your mama in the bathroom of a flop house tonight'), it got old VERY quickly.

WHY the HELL do you need to know WHY I need the money? It's my shit, I wanna sell it, you wanna buy it, great, got cash? No? You wanna make payments? But you want the computer first? fuck you!!

People fuckin amaze me, so I don't blame the OP for being short with these slappies, since many people on CL or who call from the local ad papers deserve some of this abuse for being total fuckin wastes of space.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Honestly, I got to be like the OP when listing some items in a local ad paper for sale(including an ad for game guides, for $5 each :whistle2:D)and getting people asking 'well, why are you getting rid of it?' and then I answer that with 'I don't need it anymore' or whatever, then I get asked another littany of questions.

Then, you have the assholes who say "I'm interested, when can I stop by to look at it?" and then the dicks never show up and call back 2 months later and repeat.

The last call I got from one of these game players was from the same person(voice was similar)who had asked me if I could go any cheaper on my price on a PC I was selling. I said 'yeah, I could knock off a bit', but my price was still high or I got the 'I could get that from xyz company for cheaper'. Needless to say, I gave him a chance, he never showed, I felt like an ass, end of story.

I lost my patience with people like this a LONG time ago, having originally only listed my OLD PC for sale and getting the usual string of CL scammers trying to get me to ship it to them and they'll ship me a cashier's check.

As soon as people started asking me 20 questions, questions I didn't feel I had to answer such as, 'well, why do you need the money instead of the computer'(to which I should've replied 'because im addicted to crack and smoking it with your mama in the bathroom of a flop house tonight'), it got old VERY quickly.

WHY the HELL do you need to know WHY I need the money? It's my shit, I wanna sell it, you wanna buy it, great, got cash? No? You wanna make payments? But you want the computer first? fuck you!!

People fuckin amaze me, so I don't blame the OP for being short with these slappies, since many people on CL or who call from the local ad papers deserve some of this abuse for being total fuckin wastes of space.[/QUOTE]

There is a difference with someone asking what the other mystery games are, and what you want to do with the money. If you don't disclose all the details about something in the posting then you deserve all the questions regarding it. Its the SAME DAMN thing here. If I posted something right now that said
"PSP for sale. Good condition. $150"
I would get messages like "Any dead Pixels? Any scratches on the screen? Is the Box included? Do I get an AC Adapter? Any games?" etc etc etc.

The OP deserves every stupid e-mail he gets.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']There is a difference with someone asking what the other mystery games are, and what you want to do with the money. If you don't disclose all the details about something in the posting then you deserve all the questions regarding it. Its the SAME DAMN thing here. If I posted something right now that said
"PSP for sale. Good condition. $150"
I would get messages like "Any dead Pixels? Any scratches on the screen? Is the Box included? Do I get an AC Adapter? Any games?" etc etc etc.

The OP deserves every stupid e-mail he gets.[/QUOTE]
I agree.


On the topic of asking why the seller is selling:
I always ask why the person is selling when I answer a CL or classified ad. I just want to make sure (as best I can) that I'm not buying stolen shit. The funny thing is I have never had an honest answer from a reseller. I always get "I bought it for my grandkid/nephew/kid but they already have it." I never buy no matter how good of a deal or how much I want if the seller isn't honest with me.
 
It has to be an eBay flipper.

All the common CL rabble that I've dealt with have inquired if my games are brand-new, not sealed. Sealed is more commonly utilized by collectors and those who know marketable/selling keywords.
 
[quote name='Caliburn']It has to be an eBay flipper.

All the common CL rabble that I've dealt with have inquired if my games are brand-new, not sealed. Sealed is more commonly utilized by collectors and those who know marketable/selling keywords.[/QUOTE]

...does it matter? The OP should list every damn game he has or he will have to suffer through all these e-mails. Who cares if its someone looking to flip. Shit, thats all I do on Craigslist. If I can buy a lot of SNES games for $10 that includes rare games, its so I can sell them.
 
Still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread. If you are angry about all the questions, just be more descriptive in your listing. You are only selling 10 games so it doesn't take much time to write the titles and their descriptions.

If you are angry about people flipping games, aren't you doing the same thing? On this very same page of this forum, you have a thread about how you bought a GameCube with 48 games and now you are trying to flip some of them. It is ironic that you took the time to list every game on that thread (except for the 10 sports games) to brag, but you won't list them for prospective buyers.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread. If you are angry about all the questions, just be more descriptive in your listing. You are only selling 10 games so it doesn't take much time to write the titles and their descriptions.[/quote] QFT. I think with all the "let's laugh at CL" threads and "evil eBayer" sentiments on CAG lately, OP may have been looking for a sympathetic ear or a fun topic to discuss, but instead he got a backlash.


Like others have mentioned, I also asked the sealed question if I'm getting something as a gift. If I'm buying a bundle, I want to know every game that's in there, even crap titles. If I'm buying something used, I definitely ask about its condition and if it's complete. It's just common sense to ask. Wondering what the unlisted games are or inquiring about item condition doesn't make you an "idiot," but a smart buyer. Even when game bundles are sold in B&M stores, we want to know what the included games/accessories are.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Still trying to figure out the purpose of this thread. If you are angry about all the questions, just be more descriptive in your listing. You are only selling 10 games so it doesn't take much time to write the titles and their descriptions.

If you are angry about people flipping games, aren't you doing the same thing? On this very same page of this forum, you have a thread about how you bought a GameCube with 48 games and now you are trying to flip some of them. It is ironic that you took the time to list every game on that thread (except for the 10 sports games) to brag, but you won't list them for prospective buyers.[/QUOTE]

I saw that but was waiting for someone else to mention it. He felt the need to list all titles there, but not in a craigslist ad.
 
if anything is vague to me i have to ask questions. anything from shipping costs to the quality of the item. if i like the answer than i may jump in..if not,i will go elsewhere. if it has actual pictures of the item and not a stock photo it atleast makes me feel better that im buying that item in that picture.

I understand what the OP is saying but its something not to complain about. anyone will ask questions if the Ad is vague. Its almost like stepping in to a car dealership and buying a car. you are gonna get every single question in the book before they make a purchase.

i think its the thread title that garnered the responses your getting..many CAGs here are prominant ebayers and to say it like that..is like begging for an ass kicking. i dont think it should matter if who you are selling to..and you shouldnt feel insulted. IF your a seller..all you should care about is selling the goods no matter who it is. Dont choose buyers...just make sure they pay up and thats it. I feel like reading some of your posts...you felt integrity was violated and it wasn't...sell it and get over with.
 
First let me address something for the third time since it seems to be going over some people's heads. I listed two bundles with the popular games by name and then put the number of sports games. I did NOT say "Mario, Goldeneye, and others". I put "Mario, Goldeneye, StarFox, Quest, and six sports games." Big difference. If you tell someone that all the other games not listed by name are sports games AND how many there are, that topic is pretty much covered. Unless you're overally anal retentive or obsessive compulsive, the sale will not live or die by which Madden is in there.

Now about my two recent threads...

WOW. You really think that there is any sort of hypocrisy there?

I bought all those games off of someone. They had an asking price, I countered, so on and so forth, and then we agreed upon a price. They wanted to sell. I wanted to buy.

I didn't give him a bullshit story about how I was giving them to a child and then turn around and use collector terms. Asking if it's new is one thing. I've had people ask me and tell them that it isn't. Asking if it's sealed or mint/complete is dead giveaway as to what your intentions are and it's really tacky to do after giving an unnecessary BS story. They try and haggle the prices down using that story but then don't even have enough common sense to keep the lie going.

There's a Spanish saying for that kind of stuff and I couldn't agree more. It translates to, "You can't even season the lie well enough for me to swallow it." Somehow Iamthecheapestgamer understood that and I had a feeling he would.
 
[quote name='davo1224']First let me address something for the third time since it seems to be going over some people's heads. I listed two bundles with the popular games by name and then put the number of sports games. I did NOT say "Mario, Goldeneye, and others". I put "Mario, Goldeneye, StarFox, Quest, and six sports games." Big difference. If you tell someone that all the other games not listed by name are sports games AND how many there are, that topic is pretty much covered. Unless you're overally anal retentive or obsessive compulsive, the sale will not live or die by which Madden is in there.

Now about my two recent threads...

WOW. You really think that there is any sort of hypocrisy there?

I bought all those games off of someone. They had an asking price, I countered, so on and so forth, and then we agreed upon a price. They wanted to sell. I wanted to buy.

I didn't give him a bullshit story about how I was giving them to a child and then turn around and use collector terms. Asking if it's new is one thing. I've had people ask me and tell them that it isn't. Asking if it's sealed or mint/complete is dead giveaway as to what your intentions are and it's really tacky to do after giving an unnecessary BS story. They try and haggle the prices down using that story but then don't even have enough common sense to keep the lie going.

There's a Spanish saying for that kind of stuff and I couldn't agree more. It translates to, "You can't even season the lie well enough for me to swallow it." Somehow Iamthecheapestgamer understood that and I had a feeling he would.[/quote]

So when people list games for sale on CAG and other people ask if they are mint and complete that means they are going to sell it on ebay? If I was buying a bundle I would also like to know what sports games it would come with. I cant believe you actually expected people not to ask you what sports games were included.
 
...So you got pissed at someone for wanting to know all the titles, and told someone else that mint/complete would be $10 extra per game?

Alrighty.
 
The nerve of some people. I can't believe that someone would actually care what 6 sports game there are, I mean whether it's madden or tennis or softball, what buisness is it of the buyers to know what they are getting. I mean you have the curtesy to to ask the potential buyer what games they want, and they have the nerve to respond with an honest answer that they want rpg's and a sealed copy of mario ddr. And then on top of that to want to know if the game is sealed or not, OMG, because no one has ever advertised a game as new that is not sealed, the people you deal with must all be idiots.
 
I also would just list all the games/condition...sure, buyers may offer less, but it would most certainly cut down on your frustration....
and, if you were buying, wouldn't you want this info right off the bat?
 
[quote name='spoo']I agree.


On the topic of asking why the seller is selling:
I always ask why the person is selling when I answer a CL or classified ad. I just want to make sure (as best I can) that I'm not buying stolen shit. The funny thing is I have never had an honest answer from a reseller. I always get "I bought it for my grandkid/nephew/kid but they already have it." I never buy no matter how good of a deal or how much I want if the seller isn't honest with me.[/quote]

Just curious, how many times has a seller replied with "this shit is stolen and that is why I am selling it on craig's list"?
 
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