People That Kill You Are a Nuisance: Like Hookers or Gamblers, Kerry Said So!

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''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' the article states as the Massachusetts senator's reply.

''As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.''
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What a tard.
 
He is a tard for telling the truth?

Did you ever think about terrorism before 9/11? I am sure you did not live your life in a state of fear after the attack in 1993.

On the other stuff, he is correct as well (only looking at excerpt). Crime levels will never be zero, but you should not have to live in constant fear that someone is going to kill you for no reason
 
Actually that's a pretty honest and realistic statement. I see nothing wrong with that remark. He's basically saying that we''ll never eliminate crime but we're going to reduce it to such an extent that it woun't interfere in your everyday life and you'll feel safe and secure.

Doesn't that statement just define one of the basic goals of human progress since the Pax Romana.

Terrorism will always exist. Terrerorist attacks occured on american soil before the trade towers existed and have occured after the trade towers fell. From the Gunpowder plot to the thugee's in Indian Terrorism has always existed.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' the article states as the Massachusetts senator's reply.

''As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.''
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What a tard.[/quote]

Please explain why you think that's retarded. Do you envision a day where there are absolutely no terrorists at all anywhere in the world?
 
Whats even more retarded is that this is going to be the basis of a new Bush ad, out of context of course.

They'll probably cut+paste his words like this:

"...terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance"
"...It isn't threatening people's lives"
"...we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling."
"...it's not threatening the fabric of your life"

If you think this is over the top, the swiftvet ads do it to an even greater extent.

I think the two statements, when taken in their full context, are good, smart statements. Before 9/11, thats exactly how things were. Terrorists were a nusiance, but not the focus of our lives. Do you want our lives to be entirely centered around the threat of terrorism forever? As for the second statement, its true. You can't end organized crime, or gambling, or prostitution, or any other crime completely. But you do what you can to minimize it. Just like how you can't end terrorism forever, but you can reduce it to the point where its not the focus of your everyday life.
 
Keep in mind, that these statements are in response to a question by the interviewer. The question was:

What would it take for Americans to feel safer?

Thats probably a good analysis of what it would take. I'm not surprised PAD left that little part out and I would be surprised if he came back to this thread again to back up his point.
 
I don't even think PAD's heart is in these spins lately. They're not very good at all. But you have to take into consideration the candidate he has to spin for.
 
Wow, realism. Maybe people don't expect that from a presidential candidate after 4 years of Bush?

This reminds me of the fight over sex ed. Bush's camp is always pushing abstinence and against sex ed. That's just not realistic. People are going to have sex!

It's one of the basic drives of human nature. It's much better to educate them and make condoms available so that everyone remains safe and we stop STDs and unwanted pregnancies. In fact, it seems stupid to be against abortion and also against condom distribution and sex ed.
 
Somehow this just fails to strike me as being as stupid as someone saying, "There's been some rumors goin' around the Internets."

And it definitely doesn't strike me as being as stupid as someone saying, "Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream."

And there's no way I could ever think this is as stupid (or ironic) as someone saying, "The illiteracy level of our children are appaling."

Maybe you should look at some of the stuff your own guy says that's actually stupid instead of desparately scouring the Internet for something John Kerry might have said that is somewhat less than brilliant.
 
In regards to your comment on sex ed; If their going to have sex, they probably know how to do it already. I don't want my tax dollars spent on stuff thats pretty much second nature by age 13.
 
[quote name='Backlash'] In fact, it seems stupid to be against abortion and also against condom distribution and sex ed.[/quote]

I agree 100%!
 
[quote name='serverdserver']In regards to your comment on sex ed; If their going to have sex, they probably know how to do it already. I don't want my tax dollars spent on stuff thats pretty much second nature by age 13.[/quote]

The goal of sex ed is not to teach kids "how to do it." It's to teach them how not to get pregnant or spread STD's while they are doing it.
 
[quote name='serverdserver']In regards to your comment on sex ed; If their going to have sex, they probably know how to do it already. I don't want my tax dollars spent on stuff thats pretty much second nature by age 13.[/quote]

:lol: Heh heh. As someone said, sex ed is mostly about STDs and preventing pregnancy, etc.
 
"I don't think it (the war on terror) can be won". -Bush


So Bush is now going back on what he said?

Kerry knows you can't get every last terrorist, but he's going to get them all and hurt them enough that we don't have to live in fear.

Bush on the other hand doesn't even think we can win it at all.


What a tard.
 
[quote name='David85']"I don't think it (the war on terror) can be won". -Bush


So Bush is now going back on what he said?

Kerry knows you can't get every last terrorist, but he's going to get them all and hurt them enough that we don't have to live in fear.

Bush on the other hand doesn't even think we can win it at all.[/quote]

Bush on the other hand just doesn't think.
 
Personally I wish we could go back to the time before the 2004 election heated up... you know, when political posts were only a nuisance.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Personally I wish we could go back to the time before the 2004 election heated up... you know, when political posts were only a nuisance.[/quote]

You're doing your part, I see. :lol:
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
Personally I wish we could go back to the time before the 2004 election heated up... you know, when political posts were only a nuisance.
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Can't address the point and win I see...[/quote]

I'm not trying to win anything. I'm simply pointing out that these political posts have really gotten out of hand. Everyone is criticizing both candidates for each time they so much as cough. It really is getting ridiculous.
 
"...we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling."

OH YEAH! I'm all about that! Kerry knows what us blue collar folks like! :twisted:
 
I'm not trying to win anything. I'm simply pointing out that these political posts have really gotten out of hand. Everyone is criticizing both candidates for each time they so much as cough. It really is getting ridiculous.
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Thats true, theres instigators on both sides trying to stir things up.
 
Refering to terrorism as a nuisance is unforgivable.

How would you feel if someone killed your family and I said that the killers were only a nuisance?
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Refering to terrorism as a nuisance is unforgivable.

How would you feel if someone killed your family and I said that the killers were only a nuisance?[/quote]

A prime example of Republican distortion.

Kerry wasn't calling terrorism a nuisance. He said we should work to reduce it to the level of a nuisance. In other words, we should kill or capture enough terrorists that we don't have to worry about it every day, that it doesn't have to continue to be the focus of all our lives.

I don't know about you, but that sounds like a damned good goal to me. Unless you think there's some magic way to get rid of every terrorist, present and future, in every corner of the world?
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Refering to terrorism as a nuisance is unforgivable.

How would you feel if someone killed your family and I said that the killers were only a nuisance?[/quote]

A nuisance to humanity in general, not to the particular families affected. Obviously.

If the number of terrorists actions is decreased enough, it could be classified as a nuisance, as opposed to the huge threat and plague that it is today.

You can't wipe out terrorism completely. If one guy makes a homemade bomb and uses it to blow himself up with one other person - that's terrorism. State-sponsored terrorism on the other hand, hopefully that can be wiped out.
 
[quote name='David85']"I don't think it (the war on terror) can be won". -Bush


So Bush is now going back on what he said?

Kerry knows you can't get every last terrorist, but he's going to get them all and hurt them enough that we don't have to live in fear.

Bush on the other hand doesn't even think we can win it at all.


What a tard.[/quote]

that was intelligent.
 
terrorists have never been anything more than i nuisance to me. I wish we could just get off the subject. Nobody likes em if either administration finds them they'll kill them. nothing else needs to be said on this matter
 
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