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[quote name='isoHunt.com']Following the big political scandal in Sweden on the police raid of PRQ servers (who hosted The Pirate Bay), two people, Joshua Cowles and David Sigal, have formed The Pirate Party of the United States.


The party's founder, Brent Allison and party co-chair Sigal have given an interview on Wired. With the stigma against P2P and intellectual property laws continuing to be more anti-consumer, any effort against the cartels in the public's eyes would be a good thing. Although it's unlikely they will be elected with the US's two party system, this is a good initiative to support to at least put pressure on the US government on what the people want. Check them out.
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See also: PirateParty.Us

Did a search for this, very surprised no-one's posted already.

Regardless, Allison and Sigal seem pretty optimistic, and I definitely support the theory of it.

In relation to the raid, though, I do think it's ridiculously childish of the MPAA to think they can dominate intellectual-property politics world-wide by imposing trade sanctions on offending countries. A piece that especially aggrivated me was in Malcom's letter to Eliasson, found in the Slyck article, specifically:

[quote name='Malcom']"As we discussed during our meeting, it is certainly not in Sweden's best interests to earn a reputation among other nations and trading partners as a place where utter lawlessness with respect to intellectual property is tolerated."[/QUOTE]

Disguisting, to say the least.

Anyway, anyone else have thoughts on this?
 
I have immense respect for those who want to reform the pharmaceutical industry.

I also recognize that grass-roots and politics just don't mix in this day and age. It's special-interest or no interest as far as I'm concerned.

And before you bring up anti-choice movements, I'd instead argue that they are pawns whose sole purpose is to be kept in fear sufficient to keep voting in Republicans. Their utility and vote disappears the moment they get their way; thus, they won't ever be fully satisfied as long as they don't get to eat that carrot on a stick.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Sounds like a bunch of ignorant fools who want to destroy the incentive for research and creativity in our society.[/quote]

Yes, because IP like Mickey Mouse must have a 100+ year copyright life in order to turn a profit, and the movie/music businesses are always forward thinking in how they distribute films. One must only look at how the MPAA welcomed the VCR.

The VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston Strangler is to a woman home alone. - Jack Valenti, 1984
(1984, haha)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I have immense respect for those who want to reform the pharmaceutical industry.

I also recognize that grass-roots and politics just don't mix in this day and age. It's special-interest or no interest as far as I'm concerned.

And before you bring up anti-choice movements, I'd instead argue that they are pawns whose sole purpose is to be kept in fear sufficient to keep voting in Republicans. Their utility and vote disappears the moment they get their way; thus, they won't ever be fully satisfied as long as they don't get to eat that carrot on a stick.[/QUOTE]

Ah, yes, when someone is making too much profit they are in need of "reform". That lovely euphemism for nationalization under full control and scrutiny of the BFATM (Bureau of fairness according to Myke) will finally curb the rampant exploitation of capitalism.

Unfortunately for Myke, the grass-roots-special-interest group he supports just doesn't have catchy enough slogans to garner the mainstream attention he yearns for. You are your own special interest group, myke. What you hate is the democratic and representative process that happens when we come together to form corporations and interest groups to protect industry from government and minority impedance. Rule by fiat would be so much easier.

Your fear is a shadowy, war mongering captain of monopolistic industry that controls the levers of our society without letting democrats get their fair share of pulls haunts you in the voting booth and forces you to pull that democratic lever. He's real, myke. Only the honest, hard working souls and servents of the public good - some refer to them as "Democrats" - are the ones pulling back the curtain to reveal the truth. Only they will fight for YOU, myke. Only they will take back washington for that little special interest group we lovingly refer to as "myke".
 
Why don't you get back to me once you've successfully managed to get a meeting with one of your senators?

I'm certain that they're fully booked cooperating with those interests that support you anyway, so why bother? :roll:
 
Its funny... you guys seem to be using English words, but it still comes out as utter nonsense.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Its funny... you guys seem to be using English words, but it still comes out as utter bullshit.[/QUOTE]

fix'd.
 
[quote name='DeathDealer']I usually get that they dont like each other from their posts. you guys should just say poopy head and get it over with.[/quote]
The last thing they want to do is elevate the level of conversation.

They like to think that just because their vernacular includes so many six dollar words and political euphamism that they're some how participating in something beyond an internet pissing match.

Congratulations guys! I mean, you're still jackasses, but you sound so profound when you do it. :roll:

I'm really disapointed in you Myke. For all you go on about intergrity and the value of education and all those other morally fiberous ideals, you still tend to come off no better than your average loudmouthed angsty teen. You just use more syllables.
 
Well about the MPAA monitering everything, it reminds me alot of the S3 program and Arsenal Gear from MGS 2 but anyway moving on.

I think that pirates will always be one step ahead of the MPAA unless they can actually moniter everything at once and so I think all they are doing is wasteing resources and should embrace the pirates and face it that it will always happen and then use this as almost an Advertising campaign. I mean think about it if you basicly allowed everyone to download there albums through bittorrent or something like your music will reach more people and then that will eventualy sell more albums and Concert tickets and T-shirts and so on. Also you have to figure that if these pirated albums still only come on places such as bittorrent not enough people will ever learn how to use it and hence limit the amount of albums that could possibly be downloaded.
 
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