Plasma Vs. LCD vs. Projection

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I noticed that once you get into the larger end sets - it becomes usually a battle between plasma and LCD. Which do you folks believe is better and why? Any personal experiences?

Also - do you expect tv prices to drop drastically with the wider adaptation and acceptance of HDTV?

I'm sort of looking for a 36+ incher. Don't really care if it's tube or not - but I want it to be easy to move around. I have a 36 inch sony trinitron tube right now - but it's a pain in the ass to move and I do not believe my parents would be pleased with me taking it to my dorm (seeing as I couldn't this past semester). I'm just interested in seeing if the price is really worth it. Thanks!
 
Plama runs too hot and is overall a lesser technology IMO. LCD is the current way to go.

And just out of curiousity, are you buying this set or is somebody else? A 36" set that runs about $1000 in a dorm seems like insanity to me.

*Edit* And google had like 20 articles when I searched for plasma versus lcd. Did you try that yet?

Heres on of the better ones.

http://www.cheap-plasma-tv.com/plasma-vs-lcd-tv.htm
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']I noticed that once you get into the larger end sets - it becomes usually a battle between plasma and LCD. Which do you folks believe is better and why? Any personal experiences?

I'm sort of looking for a 36+ incher. Don't really care if it's tube or not - but I want it to be easy to move around. I have a 36 inch sony trinitron tube right now - but it's a pain in the ass to move and I do not believe my parents would be pleased with me taking it to my dorm (seeing as I couldn't this past semester). I'm just interested in seeing if the price is really worth it. Thanks![/QUOTE]

36inch tv... to a dorm? And you want to make it easy to move? Do you know how dumb that sounds? Why don't you just hand them the tv and save them the trouble of sneaking in while you're at class.
 
[quote name='Kayden']36inch tv... to a dorm? And you want to make it easy to move? Do you know how dumb that sounds? Why don't you just hand them the tv and save them the trouble of sneaking in while you're at class.[/QUOTE]

Well thats no fair. I had to act with tact and taste. Kayden gets to say what I think outloud. Hmpf! :lol:
 
[quote name='Kayden']36inch tv... to a dorm? And you want to make it easy to move? Do you know how dumb that sounds? Why don't you just hand them the tv and save them the trouble of sneaking in while you're at class.[/QUOTE]

This is why you lock your door. Me and my room-mate are very similar in tastes and responsibility and the room was never left unlocked. UCONN doesn't have a very high rate of theft (8 reports this past year), what campus do you live on? At any rate - i'll be moving into an apartment my Junior year and have always been interested in a TV I can move from home to where ever I live. Maybe it's stupid due to the thought of burglary but...who knows. Maybe i won't bring it to my dorm - but i'd be interested in owning a movable TV in my house.

Thanks for the help though.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']This is why you lock your door. Me and my room-mate are very similar in tastes and responsibility and the room was never left unlocked. UCONN doesn't have a very high rate of theft (8 reports this past year), what campus do you live on? At any rate - i'll be moving into an apartment my Junior year and have always been interested in a TV I can move from home to where ever I live. Maybe it's stupid due to the thought of burglary but...who knows. Maybe i won't bring it to my dorm - but i'd be interested in owning a movable TV in my house.[/QUOTE]

Theft issues aside, its just not a good idea taking nice electronics to college, no matter WHAT college you go to.

Damage is quite common, people flooding the electrical supply cuircuits, etc etc.

I hate to steal a mans dream, I really do, but its just not a good idea bro. Plus, LCD and Plasma havent dropped yet. We are talking at LEAST $1000 for a quality TV. What college kid who doesnt have a giant ass trust fund or sell drugs on the side can justify that cost?

When I think college, I think cheap beer and ramen noodles, NOT $1500 superscreen TVs.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']Theft issues aside, its just not a good idea taking nice electronics to college, no matter WHAT college you go to.

Damage is quite common, people flooding the electrical supply cuircuits, etc etc.

I hate to steal a mans dream, I really do, but its just not a good idea bro. Plus, LCD and Plasma havent dropped yet. We are talking at LEAST $1000 for a quality TV. What college kid who doesnt have a giant ass trust fund or sell drugs on the side can justify that cost?

When I think college, I think cheap beer and ramen noodles, NOT $1500 superscreen TVs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you've got several good points. Thanks for talking to me about it and knockin some sense into this noggin :) Now I think back and remember some kid breaking my cell phone (God I hate cell phones - but it's the only way to talk with the rents at home for cheap) and racking up a 150 bill to replace. That blew indeed.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']Yeah, you've got several good points. Thanks for talking to me about it and knockin some sense into this noggin :) Now I think back and remember some kid breaking my cell phone (God I hate cell phones - but it's the only way to talk with the rents at home for cheap) and racking up a 150 bill to replace. That blew indeed.[/QUOTE]

Tell me WHY you need this TV. Is it for gaming? You can do some kickass Hi Def gaming on the ultra cheap you know. (using PC monitors) I wont lie and say its > a 36" LCD but at $150 vs. $1500 its fuck ing awesome.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']Tell me WHY you need this TV. Is it for gaming? You can do some kickass Hi Def gaming on the ultra cheap you know. (using PC monitors) I wont lie and say its > a 36" LCD but at $150 vs. $1500 its fuck ing awesome.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - it'd mostly be for multiplayer gaming. Games like Halo 2, Mario Kart, etc all are split screen and it's difficult to see at times.
 
SkyGheNe,

I run a home theater company on the side. I have detailed experience with all the products you have mentioned. Seeing as how you already have a 36" Wega then you are not going to be increasing your picture quality if you move to anything else, so keep that in mind. That sony has the best black levels in the business (along with the 34" widescreen model) and is a very tough monitor to beat for PQ (Picture Quality).

That being said the recent increases in Plasma technology have enabled them to run with less power, the longevity of the sets have doubled, and the prices have come down. Plasma is a good choice for going above 46" and keeping with a small, easy to move around set. ( Compared to CRT definately! ) A newer technology plasma will likely run you in the $3000-5000 range, but in the end you get what you pay for.

LCD technology has just gone on a killing spree. The technology in some of these newer sets is flat out amazing. Dead pixels can be hidden, and more pixels can be crammed into a set for the same price. Brightness is second to none as some of these things are so bright you'll want some ambient light in the room. Sizes generally go up to about 42" and then things get really expensive ( 5000+ ) so i'd recommend this only if you want to stay around the same size as what you have currently.

The contrast ratio ( the difference between white and black ) on both type sets has increased to the point where LCD can almost keep up with Plasma... almost.. Plasma still has the edge and will create more detail in the shadows. One good feature of going flat pannel is that both technologies will allow you to not ever have to worry about screen burn in if you leave a static image up for too long. ( Say, a health bar ) but even with newer CRT's this process can take days to burn in so no real worries unless you're very careless.

Overall i'd recommend Plasma for above 42" and in general i like it a bit more LCD would easily take the edge for under 42" however due to very high quality picture and much less power required. Just don't go looking for a better picture quality than what you currently have with that Wega, its a great set!

Let me know if i can be of any more help, and i'f you're interested in purchasing i'd be willing you give you a bit of a CAG discount :)
 
i sported my 27 incher in college, it was the biggest i had seen on the campus and i was more popular with the ladies because of it...

seriously though, a 36 inch is a huge pain in the ass to move around not to mention the amount of space it's going to take up, you can pick up a 27 inch non flat jvc for under $200 with component and s-video inputs and it's light enough to where you can move it yourself, I've owned mine for almost 4 years now and the color is still as sharp as the day i bought it, although it's had less use in the past year since I moved into my new place and bought a bigger tube.
 
SkyGheNe,

Oops, forgot that you had asked about Projectors. Projectors are meant for one thing. HUGE ASS SCREEN. That being said the picture quality falls below CRT, Plasma, and LCD. It takes a top model projector ( we're talking about 8-10,000 ) to rival any other type of set. Be that as it may there is simply no better way to get a 100" screen for playing some games. The downside is you *must* control your lighting. If there is ambient lighting in the room your picture quality and for the most part, the picture itsself will disappear. I would not recommend a projector if you play in rooms with sunlight in them. Projectors are really meant to be installed and left. Yes, some are meant for mobility but the quality really isn't there.

I've installed and used many different brands and models. Toshiba and Mitsubishi both make excellent Hi-Def models and Infocus's X2 will get you a 800x600 image at 84" screen from about 10 feet away and it only costs about $1000.

There are many many factors that you should take into consideration before going the projector route, but if you think it might can work for you, then its an awesome technology that will you LOTS of screen for cheap.

Let me know if you have more questions.
 
SkyGheNe,

Oops, forgot that you had asked about Projectors. Projectors are meant for one thing. HUGE ASS SCREEN. That being said the picture quality falls below CRT, Plasma, and LCD. It takes a top model projector ( we're talking about 8-10,000 ) to rival any other type of set. Be that as it may there is simply no better way to get a 100" screen for playing some games. The downside is you *must* control your lighting. If there is ambient lighting in the room your picture quality and for the most part, the picture itsself will disappear. I would not recommend a projector if you play in rooms with sunlight in them. Projectors are really meant to be installed and left. Yes, some are meant for mobility but the quality really isn't there.

I've installed and used many different brands and models. Toshiba and Mitsubishi both make excellent Hi-Def models and Infocus's X2 will get you a 800x600 image at 84" screen from about 10 feet away and it only costs about $1000.

There are many many factors that you should take into consideration before going the projector route, but if you think it might can work for you, then its an awesome technology that will get you LOTS of screen for cheap.

Let me know if you have more questions.
 
[quote name='orthetic']SkyGheNe,

Oops, forgot that you had asked about Projectors. Projectors are meant for one thing. HUGE ASS SCREEN. That being said the picture quality falls below CRT, Plasma, and LCD. It takes a top model projector ( we're talking about 8-10,000 ) to rival any other type of set. Be that as it may there is simply no better way to get a 100" screen for playing some games. The downside is you *must* control your lighting. If there is ambient lighting in the room your picture quality and for the most part, the picture itsself will disappear. I would not recommend a projector if you play in rooms with sunlight in them. Projectors are really meant to be installed and left. Yes, some are meant for mobility but the quality really isn't there.

I've installed and used many different brands and models. Toshiba and Mitsubishi both make excellent Hi-Def models and Infocus's X2 will get you a 800x600 image at 84" screen from about 10 feet away and it only costs about $1000.

There are many many factors that you should take into consideration before going the projector route, but if you think it might can work for you, then its an awesome technology that will get you LOTS of screen for cheap.

Let me know if you have more questions.[/QUOTE]

Wow - thanks - that was an amazing read. Thank you for all the information - I really appreciate it. Does your company have a site or something? In the future if I pick something up - i'll order from you guys :D

I had considered projection - but it seems like it would be more of a pain to own. One of my friends got a free one from an uncle and it is pretty incredible playing soul calibur on his wall - but your right - the lighting has drastic effects on its quality.

i sported my 27 incher in college, it was the biggest i had seen on the campus and i was more popular with the ladies because of it...
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I hear that. Some kid next to my room had a 42 inch Sony. It was pretty.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']Wow - thanks - that was an amazing read. Thank you for all the information - I really appreciate it. Does your company have a site or something? In the future if I pick something up - i'll order from you guys :D

I had considered projection - but it seems like it would be more of a pain to own. One of my friends got a free one from an uncle and it is pretty incredible playing soul calibur on his wall - but your right - the lighting has drastic effects on its quality.



I hear that. Some kid next to my room had a 42 inch Sony. It was pretty.[/QUOTE]

I must be lucky. I bought a sony 46" projection tv about 5 or 6 years ago (wega's seemed to be somewhat new then, they still had high priced sony projection tv's that were non wega). It was a floor model and cost 1800, but I think it was normally 2500. You can see the picture and color no matter what angle your at (I've seen a lot where it blackens the closer to the sides you go) and lighting has no more effect than it does on a tube (ie. it looks nicer cause everything is dark around it, but it's just as clear and bright).
 
[quote name='vietgurl']wow...how do you fit a 36" into a dorm room?

or maybe the dorms at berkeley just suck...[/QUOTE]


Lucky I'm not living at the dorms :lol: My apartment isn't too big, but I can definitely fit those projection TVs, although I'm getting a 27" flat tube instead.
 
Checkout some DLP sets I personally like them but their no where near as small as a LCD or Plasma set.


Also getting a tv like that for your dorm room just screams "steal my stuff" I had nice stuff in my door room and over a week break someone broke in and stole most of my stuff.

Another issue is privacy, it gets kind of annoying having people want to play video games in your room all the time when you want to study or be alone.
 
which one of these is the best bet for $600?

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4054562?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4447446?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

this looks pretty good even tho it is only 20 inches ($430)

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4448446?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

this last one is $350 and only 15 inches

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4103723?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

right now i have a 5 year old 20 inch sony trinitron crt. It is has a beautiful tube but the lcd ones look so much nicer(and this one is a pain to move around.)
 
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