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Euro pricing hint in line with expectations; direct conversion unlikely to reveal US price

Sony Computer Entertainment France president George Fornay has revealed that the PlayStation 3 will be sold for between 500 and 600 Euro when it launches in November, in the clearest indication yet of Sony's pricing strategy.

Speaking to radio station Europe 1 in an interview which has now been widely circulated online, Fornay said that the console would be available for "around 500 Euro", with his expectation being that it will be priced between 499 and 599 Euro.

Arguing in favour of this price point, Fornay said that the inclusion of Blu-Ray and HD functionality justifies the expense of the console, and that compared to other devices offering similar media functionality, the PS3 will be relatively cheap.

Before considering the price, however - which does translate to between roughly $600 and $750 dollars - it's important to bear in mind that European prices are often quoted inclusive of local sales tax, which can be in the region of 20 per cent.

As such, the final US price is likely to be significantly lower than a simple currency exchange would suggest - as low as $500 in fact, with the sales tax difference effectively cancelling out the currency exchange difference.

However, the console will still be priced higher than either the Xbox 360 or the Nintendo Revolution platforms, and will be the most expensive gaming device on the market at launch - in line with Ken Kutaragi's warning that the PS3 will be "expensive", although admittedly not as bad as many analysts have predicted. In fact, a 500 Euro launch price wouldn't be far off the launch prices of many other devices, including the original PlayStation, which makes Fornay's statements seem eminently believable.

The full pricing information for the PS3 isn't expected to be officially announced until Sony's pre-E3 conference on May 9th at the very earliest, and the firm may even hold off on announcing final pricing details until closer to the November worldwide launch of the system.
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I don't know about you guys but I won't be paying $400 for an XBOX 360 or $500 for a PS3. It looks like the Revolution will have to be my next gen system until prices drop. Maybe I'll be able to score a deal and get it cheaper but that's too much in my opinion. Of course we don't have an actual price point yet either. Still speculation. I think the current gen systems still have some life left in em too.
 
Well, it depends on how you look at it. It's either an expensive gaming machine that can play Blue-Rays or a cheap Blue-Ray player that can play games.
 
$500 is probably the max they could possibly get for it, I don't see people being insane enough to consider paying $600 for a PS3 (at least not that many people...) when an xbox 360 premium is only $400 (unless they do a price drop around the PS3 launch) and the Rev will probably be $200-250.

Should I buy a PS3 or a Revolution and 5 or 6 games? I just don't know...
 
fuck that $400 is to much for a 360 let alone $500 for a PS3 and their track record for console problems. I'm not going to pay $500 for DRE's and overheating. I'm not against sony however, they're acting like the problems with the ps2 never happened. I really don't care about a blu-ray player on top of that.
 
I feel very comfortable paying $500.00 for a PS3. When E3 hits and all the hype about it goes up I'll probably even pay upwards of $505.00 for it.
 
And here I thought the PS3 was a gaming console, and yet...
compared to other devices offering similar media functionality, the PS3 will be relatively cheap
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Isn't the 360 the only other console on the market? But I guess the PS3 is indeed a cheap Blu-Ray player.
 
It doesn't matter if we'd pay for it, as we all know there will be wide-spread shortages around the world. So really, Sony could possibly charge a lot more and then drop the price once production ramps up and say, "Look! We love you all so much that we slashed the prices $100-$200."

And early adaptors can't complain b/c they know there are risks involved of being the first to own.
 
Lets look at other pricing.

Xbox 360 is $399 in the US, and 399 Euros there. PS2 is $150 here, and 150 Euros there. Gamecube is $99 here, and 99 Euros there.

I think we've got the general pricerange here. Between $499 and $599.
 
UGH, 3D0 anybody?

First they did $699.99 then about 3 months later dropped it to $499.99.

This just ain't gonna fly. There's no way the casual gamer will look at $500 and say OOOOH GOTTA HAVE IT.

This thing is going to tank.

Sure, they'll sell the first 8 million no problem, there will be shortages the week of launch day. Then? Brick wall.

This price point is never going to fly.
 
god damn... i quitnext gen gaming. For that price I could build myself a sweet gaming rig and no that itll never be outta date since I can always upgrade/ sell old parts.
 
I predict a price of 450.00.

So the consumer will feel like, "Hey, atleast I'm not paying 500!"

Then again, what do i know.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']This just ain't gonna fly. There's no way the casual gamer will look at $500 and say OOOOH GOTTA HAVE IT.[/QUOTE]

You think that Sony is foolish enough to charge that much and target the casual gamer? Of course not! MS is doing the same thing with the 460 - they're charging a premium up front for those who gotta have it. Only after all the early adapters have it will they lower the price to target the casual gamer. And by that time, a sizeable library will have been created and fallen to budget prices.

Example - Went to Gamestop this weekend and a mother asked if they had any 360's in stock for her son. CSR goes in the back and picks takes out a Premium.

"How much?"
"$400"
"Do you have the cheaper version?"
"No, sorry"
"Forge it then. I'm not spending an extra $100 on a machine"

No way in heck the premium bundle is targeted as a impulse buy - lest you're in the upper echelons of the income bracket

Sony has the hype to justify charging the price - not sure if MS could do the same. That's market power.

Simple supply and demand - learn some econ. It's good for the world.

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Sure, they'll sell the first 8 million no problem, there will be shortages the week of launch day. Then? Brick wall.[/QUOTE]

Oh that's right - because MS's launch was perfect and didn't suffer from massive shortages for the first few months. :roll: [/sarcasm]
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']god damn... i quitnext gen gaming. For that price I could build myself a sweet gaming rig and no that itll never be outta date since I can always upgrade/ sell old parts.[/quote]

Are you serious? What gaming rig can you build for $500 that can run anyhting other than IE?? ;) The top of the line "gaming" rig video card is over $500 itself. Processors a couple hundred. I dont see how you could possible get anything that was decent and then trade it so that more money would not have to go into it. Theres a huge differnce between " sweet gaming rig" and a computer that turns on.

For the price of a top of the line gaming card that will last you a few years you can have a all in one gaming machine/blue ray/ coffee maker and whatever the hell else this thing has in it. I personally have given up on the PC for the fact of the steep price to get anything decent and the fact that PC games are hardly allowed to be traded in anymore. Consoles are the new wave and the pc is slowin down..
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']god damn... i quitnext gen gaming. For that price I could build myself a sweet gaming rig and no that itll never be outta date since I can always upgrade/ sell old parts.[/QUOTE]

Um what kind of rig will you get for that much money? one graphics card?
 
peeps on ebay were willing to pay almost double the retail price for an xbox360 at launch time. what makes you think people won't pay $500 for a ps3?

(not trying to sound like a smart ass)
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']peeps on ebay were willing to pay almost double the retail price for an xbox360 at launch time. what makes you think people won't pay $500 for a ps3?

(not trying to sound like a smart ass)[/QUOTE]
Oh, some will. But the 10,000 plus 360s on eBay were a small percentage of 360s.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']There are so many great games out right now, who needs a new system?[/QUOTE]

Those who think they have more time to finish their backlog than they actually do. ;)
 
[quote name='botticus']Oh, some will. But the 10,000 plus 360s on eBay were a small percentage of 360s.[/quote]
ok, i just did a check on google and there were around 40,000 xbox360's sold on ebay! :shock:

many of the xbox360's that were purchased on opening day through b&m or online were packaged with accessories and/or games. from my experience and research, i'd say the average package ranged anywhere from $600 to over $1000. $500 for a ps3 doesn't seem like too far fetched an idea imo. :lol:

edit: of course this doesn't mean i will be purchasing a ps3 at launch. i can wait for the prices to come down on the xbox360 and ps3 :lol: x 2
 
[quote name='willardhaven']There are so many great games out right now, who needs a new system?[/quote] *raises hand* I wouldn't mind.

but yeah, I'm not spending half a thousand dollars on a piece of hardware when just around 6 years ago the same company put out a piece of hardware that took them years of tweaking with to perfect.
 
[quote name='PsyKyX']I was just hoping they'd match the 360's price.
I'll be waiting for a few price drops.[/quote]

I don't expect a pricedrop anytime soon. The PSP showed that people are willing to spend 250$ for a handheld.
I considerd this already a very high price, just for a handheld.

The only thing i know is, that i will not pay anything beyond 400$ for a console. I don't care if the justification is the blueray player. This is just crap.

I think my bet is Nintendo in this run, since it will be cheaper (aka affortable). Plus, not to forget that the game will actually also more expensive. Who are they kidding?
 
hmm.. that is a bit steep. I always said that $500 is the highest I would go, but I always thought that it would be releasing for $400-$500. Now it looks like my highest prediction, could be the lowest price it is released. Luckily I have finished my freepay offer so it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I am just worrying about all other expenses, like games, controllers, etc. Also am wondering how well the console will sell. More sales = more support and more games for me. It's odd that they released the Euro price first, since they are usually the last to get anything out of the 3 main regions.
 
Anyone who thinks PS3 is going to fail and not sell well is...well, pretty ignorant IMO. It will sell, and it will sell well.

For me though...$500 is really pushing it. I plan to put down the $50 when Gamestop starts pre-orders and then when it comes out I'll see where I'm at with money and whatnot before I decide to get it.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Anyone who thinks PS3 is going to fail and not sell well is...well, pretty ignorant IMO. It will sell, and it will sell well.

For me though...$500 is really pushing it. I plan to put down the $50 when Gamestop starts pre-orders and then when it comes out I'll see where I'm at with money and whatnot before I decide to get it.[/quote]

You know, i don't think that the PS3 will fail, but i think there is a border. It looks like that Sony will pushing the envelope over the 500$.
At this price, i just have to assume, that anybody who will purchase a console is..
a) a diehard fan
b) rich
c) has no brain

I mean serious. Gaming is a passion for me, but would i spend that kind of money for a console. No! Thats just to much.
Or am i alone?

I just hope that it will not go above 400$ and that it is just stupid rumors we reading on the net.
 
[quote name='jkam']http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15915



I don't know about you guys but I won't be paying $400 for an XBOX 360 or $500 for a PS3. It looks like the Revolution will have to be my next gen system until prices drop. Maybe I'll be able to score a deal and get it cheaper but that's too much in my opinion. Of course we don't have an actual price point yet either. Still speculation. I think the current gen systems still have some life left in em too.[/QUOTE]


I think I am gonna try to buy 4, flip 3 on ebay and hopefully make a few hundred and be able to keep one for free :) yeah, that is scandalous, but I haven't made money one a console yet, so now is the time (saved it for the biggie)
 
[quote name='yester']I mean serious. Gaming is a passion for me, but would i spend that kind of money for a console. No! Thats just to much.
Or am i alone?[/QUOTE]
You're not alone, but you're not in as full of company as you should be. Some people will spend all sorts of money on things you or I might view as a waste. Heck, I spent over $200 importing a DS Lite. Was that a waste of money? Probably. Do I regret it? Not in the least.

There will be those for whom the wad of cash is worth it. Personally, I can't see myself spending more than $200 on a home console with unproven software. As anxious as I am to get and play the Revolution, if it's over $200 I'll probably wait to see if what comes out justifies the price tag. As for those early PS3 adopters? More power to 'em. I hope they enjoy their investment for years to come.
 
I've already spent $400 on a 360, I don't see myself spending $500+ on the PS3. The Revolution should be out hopefully before then, so I think I'll be fine with just a 360 and Rev for now. Then again I wish MGS 4 wasn't a PS3 exclusive...gahhh
 
does anyone else think they will just do the microsoft thing and offer everything for $5-600, and also offer a version without blu-ray or something for 350-400?

then again. i know nothing of sony or ps3, having never owned any of their systems and played them only a few times in my life.
 
[quote name='sleepy180']does anyone else think they will just do the microsoft thing and offer everything for $5-600, and also offer a version without blu-ray or something for 350-400?

then again. i know nothing of sony or ps3, having never owned any of their systems and played them only a few times in my life.[/QUOTE]

Wont happen because you'd have to program a game for both drives.

I can see them making the HDD optional like the :360: though.
 
[quote name='asianxcore']I've already spent $400 on a 360, I don't see myself spending $500+ on the PS3. The Revolution should be out hopefully before then, so I think I'll be fine with just a 360 and Rev for now. Then again I wish MGS 4 wasn't a PS3 exclusive...gahhh[/QUOTE]
I think Nintendo has positioned themselves very well this gen. People laugh at their specs, but look at the pricepoint. They're in a great position to be everyone's 2nd console. Very few people are going to spend $400-$600 twice. Picking up a 360 and a Rev isn't so much of a stretch. Even the form factor is designed that way. Its extremely small, and vertical, they probably designed it with the assumption that the main console (360, PS3) would take up most of the space near the TV. Plus they'll still have their traditional markets.
 
The PS3 will sell like gangbusters even at $500, especially if they manage to release it in November like they are saying (I'm still doubtful). There will be massive shortages which will result in resellers making thousands of dollars off eBay - just like the PS2 launch all over again.

Personally, I'm not spending over $300 for a console so I guess I'll be picking up a Rev and then waiting for the inevitable price drops on the 360 and PS3. I'm much more excited about the direction that Nintendo is going than Sony and Mircosoft anyway.
 
You guys have to get out of the "Consoles should cost $200 bucks!" mentality, because that ship has sailed.

The problem here is that its a matter of PERSPECTIVE. To the Gadget-Guy, who already has a Home Theatre setup, or at least a big HD set, $600 bucks isn't that much money. In fact, its an absolute BARGAIN...because the cheapest Blu-Ray player announced at this point is $999 by itself. No game system included.

At the same time, to the guy with the 27" analog set who just wants to play the new games, even at 480i resolution....he's getting the shaft..or rather, he's getting forced into the 21st century. When he's got the bigscreen HD set then the blu-ray player becomes more attractive, and the HD goodness that the graphcis can now do becomes more of a way to justify spending the bucks.

We are a nation of spend-freaks...people putting $2000 rims on their $1600 cars. College Students with 50" Plasmas in their dorm-rooms, or $3000 PC's modified to the hilt. Sony knows this, and is marketing its games accordingly.

If they had any doubts about pricing, seeing the $400 Xbox 360 (with no HD player built in) selling out 3+ months after its release surely cleared that up.
 
[quote name='HeadRusch']You guys have to get out of the "Consoles should cost $200 bucks!" mentality, because that ship has sailed.
[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm in the "I have yet to pay more than $100 for any gaming system" mentality, so we'll see how much longer I can keep that up.
 
Discipline is your friend :)

Personally, I'm getting my $400 worth out of my 360, so no complaints there. But I can see some people not wanting to bother with 'graphical upgrades of basically existing games' for more than, say $200 or $300.
 
I dont think $700 would be that bad, the PSX was $1,000 retail when it first game out, and that was only a PS2 with a harddrive & dvd recorder.
 
[quote name='HeadRusch']You guys have to get out of the "Consoles should cost $200 bucks!" mentality, because that ship has sailed.

The problem here is that its a matter of PERSPECTIVE. To the Gadget-Guy, who already has a Home Theatre setup, or at least a big HD set, $600 bucks isn't that much money. In fact, its an absolute BARGAIN...because the cheapest Blu-Ray player announced at this point is $999 by itself. No game system included.
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Except the PS3 is not supposed to appeal strictly to videophiles.

At the same time, to the guy with the 27" analog set who just wants to play the new games, even at 480i resolution....he's getting the shaft..or rather, he's getting forced into the 21st century. When he's got the bigscreen HD set then the blu-ray player becomes more attractive, and the HD goodness that the graphcis can now do becomes more of a way to justify spending the bucks.
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So essentially, when the average consumer becomes a videophile, then the PS3 will seem like a bargain. Except average consumers never become videophiles. Everyone and their brother will have an HD set when HD sets drop to the usual price for a new SD television.

We are a nation of spend-freaks...people putting $2000 rims on their $1600 cars. College Students with 50" Plasmas in their dorm-rooms, or $3000 PC's modified to the hilt. Sony knows this, and is marketing its games accordingly.
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These are all still niche consumers. Sony needs 70 million of these people to support the PS3.
If they had any doubts about pricing, seeing the $400 Xbox 360 (with no HD player built in) selling out 3+ months after its release surely cleared that up
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The jury is still very much out on the 360, though it's at least establishing itself in North America and if I were to make a prediction I'd say it will do fine. But it currently has the benefit of no competition and it was way, way undershipped. (Considering the numbers shipped it had better still be selling out.) If sales stall once the market is finally flooded with 360s and/or the Revolution and PS3 launch, they're in big trouble. The point is the market has not quite proven that a $400 price point is tenable, much less a $500+ one.
 
[quote name='HeadRusch']You guys have to get out of the "Consoles should cost $200 bucks!" mentality, because that ship has sailed.

The problem here is that its a matter of PERSPECTIVE. To the Gadget-Guy, who already has a Home Theatre setup, or at least a big HD set, $600 bucks isn't that much money. In fact, its an absolute BARGAIN...because the cheapest Blu-Ray player announced at this point is $999 by itself. No game system included.

At the same time, to the guy with the 27" analog set who just wants to play the new games, even at 480i resolution....he's getting the shaft..or rather, he's getting forced into the 21st century. When he's got the bigscreen HD set then the blu-ray player becomes more attractive, and the HD goodness that the graphcis can now do becomes more of a way to justify spending the bucks.

We are a nation of spend-freaks...people putting $2000 rims on their $1600 cars. College Students with 50" Plasmas in their dorm-rooms, or $3000 PC's modified to the hilt. Sony knows this, and is marketing its games accordingly.

If they had any doubts about pricing, seeing the $400 Xbox 360 (with no HD player built in) selling out 3+ months after its release surely cleared that up.[/quote]

I partly agree with your post. But to the Blueray point i habe to say, we don't even know for sure, if that will be the next DVD Standart.
Just imagine, that blueray fails against HD-DVD. What then.
Then you have a Blueray machine, which only plays games. Great.
Sony pushes the PS3 with the Blueray, but it is inconclusive if it will be a value for me or everybody else.

Also, i know there are folks outside spending loads of money for things i would not buy.
And most people do it over creditcards. or if student maybe have parents who help finace things.
I don't have to good income in the moment and no parents who would helps me out, so i have to spend my money wisely.
I am defently not one of the first buyers of the new console.
 
$500 would be the max I would drop on a system. If it doesn't have a built in hard drive for that price then no friggin way. Its $500 max no neccesary add-on garbage. Also after spending that amount I would be very, very picky about the games I would buy. The games would have to be exactly what I want. Ratchet/Jak/Sony exclusives pretty much.

I don't give a rats ass about blueray or HD movies.
 
[quote name='Lice']Are you serious? What gaming rig can you build for $500 that can run anyhting other than IE?? ;) The top of the line "gaming" rig video card is over $500 itself. Processors a couple hundred. I dont see how you could possible get anything that was decent and then trade it so that more money would not have to go into it. Theres a huge differnce between " sweet gaming rig" and a computer that turns on.

For the price of a top of the line gaming card that will last you a few years you can have a all in one gaming machine/blue ray/ coffee maker and whatever the hell else this thing has in it. I personally have given up on the PC for the fact of the steep price to get anything decent and the fact that PC games are hardly allowed to be traded in anymore. Consoles are the new wave and the pc is slowin down..[/QUOTE]

yea, fuck you... http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']yea, fuck you... http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/[/quote]

Hahah calm down, no need to get hostile

Did you actually read that?

its $516 for some subpar parts...

Unless your going to put them all layed out on the desk you want a case i would assume. Operating system? nah thats not needed these days.

1.8 ghz amd

NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Corsair Value Select 512MB kit


Like i said, theres a differnce between a "Sweet" gaming machine and a computer...

way to go
 
[quote name='Lice']Hahah calm down, no need to get hostile

Did you actually read that?

its $516 for some subpar parts...

Unless your going to put them all layed out on the desk you want a case i would assume. Operating system? nah thats not needed these days.

1.8 ghz amd

NVIDIA GeForce 6600
Corsair Value Select 512MB kit


Like i said, theres a differnce between a "Sweet" gaming machine and a computer...

way to go[/QUOTE]

cases are fairly cheap, and an os isnt entirely necessary. That pc would be able to run most games and FPS's would be all id need to pass the time. I was simply trying to give sumone an alternative to a ps3.
 
[quote name='yester']I partly agree with your post. But to the Blueray point i habe to say, we don't even know for sure, if that will be the next DVD Standart.
Just imagine, that blueray fails against HD-DVD. What then.
Then you have a Blueray machine, which only plays games. Great.[/quote]

You'd have a console with a proprietary high-capacity disc format. Good for bootleg prevention. No one could burn copies of PS3 games if there was no such thing as writable Blu-ray discs.
 
[quote name='Vegan']You'd have a console with a proprietary high-capacity disc format. Good for bootleg prevention. No one could burn copies of PS3 games if there was no such thing as writable Blu-ray discs.[/QUOTE]
I think the point was that people will be less likely to say "Yay, I can get a 'cheap' Blu-Ray player!" if they consider what their Blu-Ray player will be worth if the format fails.
 
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