PS3 will use 50gb disks?

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http://www.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=6419

[quote name='Spong']Sony vice president Kiyoshi Nishitani has revealed the disc format to be utilised in SCE's PlayStation 3, naming the revered Blu-Ray Disc technology as the firm's chosen technology partner.

Speaking in Japanese daily newspaper the Asahi Shimbun, (which unfortunately isn't a paper devoted entirely to beer) Nishitani-san stated that the technology, capable of hosting up to a staggering 50GB per disc, will be employed.

Expect more PS3 revelations from this May's E3.[/quote]
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That's a whole lotta game, but I doubt the disks will be that big. The industry is moving towards shorter games so I don't see the point of so much space.
 
Thats dumb. What they should do is keep DVDs and put little credit cards style magnetic strips acound the middle for saving games.
 
Uh, if XI costs $100, then half of that is probably for the 40 gigabyte HDD, so which means it would probably cost $50. So, wouldn't this be like $60 for just the disc, then more for the game that's on there?
 
i agree, this will just make games more expensive, but not as much as $60 for just a disc. the ps2 hard drive is just over priced, u can find 160gb hard drives for that much. although its a step towards anti piracy since it'll b harder to replicate these then dvds.
 
Dun-dun-DUN! Sony is the most notorious for changing specs on the fly...I wouldn't be surprised if they said the hell with it and dumped incompatibility. Sony said they have a 10 year plan for PS2 anyhow, so maybe they expect you to have both.
 
I pretty sure that Blu-Ray technology is compatible with existing DVD technology. Panasonic is working on releasing one that record in Blu-Ray and play existing DVDs from your library I believe. Also, the 50 GB is with a dual layered disc, chances are we may see single layered discs in games that hold about 25GB, at least at first.
 
I agree Spong isn't that great, but I've seen this all over the net. When it comes to a price increase, my guess is there won't really be one, at least not for the games themselves. The PS3 isn't going to be out til late 2005 at the very earliest and by then my guess is that Blu-ray will be pretty well established. Especialy if you are already seeing machines on the market now (I'm pretty sure Sony has already put out a Blu-ray recorder in Japan).
 
This somewhat worries me. After all, how many games really will need 25-50 GB? Or movies for that matter. And about $4000 dollars for a player is alot. Even though the cost will go down, who knows how much it will be when the PS3 launches.
This could very well drive up the cost of the system, which would cause Microsoft and Nintendo to raise the costs of their systems.
Any one know how much DVD players cost when the PS2 was release and when DVD players were first released?
 
I can't say the cost of DVD when they first hit the market, and the systems may cost a lot I don't know. But keep in mind the Blu-Ray stuff sony has on the market now is a recorder. The added feature of being able to record has always been more money, DVD recorders are still far more expensive than players. The reports I've heard said that the PS3 may have a a Blu-ray ROM drive, which means it won't likely be able to record anything.
 
Blu-Ray technology is the next advancement in DVD technology. It is essentially DVD 2.0. The Blu Ray name comes from the color of the laser that reads the media. Current DVD lasers are red. The way I understand it is the laser can be focused into a much smaller beam than the current red laser. This in turn leads to data being stored on discs in a much smaller fashion. This is similar to what Intel has been doing with CPU transistors. The smaller they make them, the more they can put on a CPU die, the faster the CPU. :D
 
Just FYI, the PS2 HDD costs $100.
FFXI is free, they are planning to make money off of subscriptions.
Thats why there is no HDD without the FFXI bundle.
 
[quote name='spoo']Spong is not the most reliable source on the net. They are notorious for posting rumors as news.[/quote]

NEWS FLASH!

Most gaming sites post rumors as news. :roll:

If you had half a mind to check you would see that most of the stories that spong reports are also end up on other "reliable" sites.

Spong just reports more rumors than the other sites so they end up being wrong more, unfortunatly people take this to mean that they suckzorz1!1

It's about volume not credibility.
 
Scrubking is right.

IGN has a big article announcing a Virtual Boy NES that has a screenthat displays only the color red, and a full line of VB emulations on 2 tone carts.

Granted it is an April fools joke, but you don't see CNN announcing president Bush's asasination on 4/1.
 
To throw in my 2 cents:

Spong posts lots of bunk, much of which is unconfirmed and technically infeasable. Also, they seem to be the only "news source" who backs Infinium and the Phantom, which should leave lots of doubts in mind about that.

About the blue ray, it is backwards compatible, like a few have said, and yes it is high capacity. However, it's not likely that a game will top the 50GB mark, it will just reduce the number of multi disc sets, and the possibility of DVD-Rom an Blue Ray-ROM acting like the present generation of CD-ROM and DVD-ROM is very, very likely.
 
Ok, I was wrong--It is possible to make a drive that reads both Blu-Ray and DVD. I wouldn't worry about the cost going too high though. Sony will save money by designing the PS3 with only two controller ports.
 
If you read the Gamespot article in comparison to the Spong article, the Gamespot one is way more informative. Also, Spong almost makes it look like it will be a fact where gamespot displays it as a rumor. It's clear it's the same story, but Gamspot seems to be using far better journalism skills to report it.
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='spoo']Spong is not the most reliable source on the net. They are notorious for posting rumors as news.[/quote]
Spong just reports more rumors than the other sites so they end up being wrong more, unfortunatly people take this to mean that they suckzorz1!1
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I had no intention of throwing flames nor saying they "suckzorz1!1". I was just stating the credibility of the site. I am not a fanboy of any VG news site.

Am I the only one that thinks we will not see the PS3 until 2006? If they were going to bring out the PS3 next year it would make sense that they would know what hardware they were going to use.
 
I don't really think it will come ou tin 2005, unless Nintendo or microsoft pull off some kind of miracle and Sony has to scramble to compete. Sony's on top right now with the PS2 and it wouldn't make any sense for them to rush out a brand new system before the others do.
 
Is IBM still making the same whatever (was it a the processor?) for all three new next-gen consoles released by Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft?
 
Stop bickering about rumors and whatnot. First, don't go to a lame site for news. If you want to know the difference, go somewhere like EGM's website. If they are printing a rumor,they tell you. What a novel idea! Try here: http://www.1up.com/article2/0,2053,1557716,00.asp And this was posted three days ago, not a lame April Fool's joke. (That was the pic of the LotR Kart Racer for PSP.)
 
[quote name='EggViper']i agree, this will just make games more expensive, but not as much as $60 for just a disc. the ps2 hard drive is just over priced, u can find 160gb hard drives for that much. although its a step towards anti piracy since it'll b harder to replicate these then dvds.[/quote]

The discs are still made of plastic all they have to do is stamp them.

All commercial discs are made the same way dvd cd blueray its all the same. http://www.azuradisc.com/how_cdmade.html

Plastic is cheap. Sony will find a way to make blueray cheap as they want to beat the other blue laser format. Dvd was pretty pricey when the ps2 came out in japan and sony solved some of this problem by creating a cheaper laser system that read both cds and dvds. They also solved the problem partially by subsidising the costs of the system
 
Yes, it is true. They will be about the same price as DVD's, as is stated in the EGM article: "Though its production costs are roughly comparable to existing DVDs..." And if I had to guess, I would suppose that they are going to try what Nintendo was doing with their Disk Drive and not make it be Read Only, nor Writable, but a hybrid where part of the disc stored the game permanently and part was used for updates and game saves and such. But that last part is just my opinion.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']Yes, it is true. They will be about the same price as DVD's, as is stated in the EGM article: "Though its production costs are roughly comparable to existing DVDs..." And if I had to guess, I would suppose that they are going to try what Nintendo was doing with their Disk Drive and not make it be Read Only, nor Writable, but a hybrid where part of the disc stored the game permanently and part was used for updates and game saves and such. But that last part is just my opinion.[/quote]

That wont work you cant press a disc with both a writable die or metal area and a pressed section. Adding writing would not only be cost prohibitive in production of the discs but also in the drives itself. The speed of transfer would suck as well since your reading and writing to optical media in two formats. This would slow things to a crawl becuse to write something it will be forced to search the disc to read then change tracks to the rewritable area and then switch back over and over again. This is like having a race track with traffic in both direction in one lane. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

I remember a while back when sony was developing the original playstation (the cdrom upgrade for snes) they wanted to put the discs in cadies (you older tech guys will know what im talking about) the cadies had onboard memory for gamesaves and copy protection. This was never adopted to the actual playstation and the decision was made because they wanted to beat nintendo in price. Some things never change and sony will always go with the cheapest way to get the job done.
 
well 50 gb disks means more dvd like extra's, and retro packs that can fit whole series together. Think about it; every final fantasy ever made all on 1 (maybe 2) of those 50 gig disks :shock:
 
final fantasy is only free if you get it with the hard drive and sell for about $70 without it. why the hell you buy final fantasy with out the hard drive i dont know
 
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