Questionnaire Shows Miers Opposed Most Abortions

[alonzomourning23]

In 1989, U.S. Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers was asked to fill out a questionnaire for the Texans United for Life Political Action Committee. Here is the survey and Miers' responses:



Dear Ms.Miers:

Texans United for Life Political Action Committee represents more than 30,000 pro-lifers in the Metroplex.

TUL PAC first surveys candidates, then conducts interviews in an impartial way to determine which candidates truly possess the pro-life philosophy. Other factors, such as voting records, where applicable, and electibility, are taken into consideration before an endorsement is made.

Thank you for taking the time to meet with members of our PAC on Thursday afternoon, April 13. Please bring several copies of the enclosed candidate survey with you. We must have your completed survey in hand in order to conduct the interview.

Sincerely,

William E. Price

President

CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE, DALLAS CITY ELECTIONS, 1989

1. If Congress passes a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution that would prohibit abortion except when it was necessary to prevent the death of the mother, would you actively support its ratification by the Texas Legislature?

Miers' answer: Yes

2. If the Supreme Court returns to the States the right to restrict abortion, would you actively support legislation that would reinstate our 1973 abortion law that prohibited all abortions except those necessary to prevent the death of the mother?

Miers' answer: Yes

3. Will you oppose the use of public monies for abortion except where necessary to prevent the death of the mother?

Miers' answer: Yes

4. Will you oppose the use of City funds or facilities by any persons, groups, clinics or organizations to promote, encourage or provide referrals for abortions?

Miers' answer: Yes

5. Will you vote against the appointment of pro-abortion persons to City Boards or Committees that deal with health issues? (To the extent Pro-Life views are relevant.)

Miers' answer: Yes

6. Would you refuse the endorsement of any organization that supports abortion-on-demand?

Miers' answer: Yes

7. Will you participate in press conferences to promote the goals of the pro-life movement?

Miers' answer: Yes

8. Will you use your influences as an elected official within the confines of your oath of office to promote the pro-life cause?

Miers' answer: Yes

9. Will you participate in pro-life rallies and special events?

Miers' answer: Yes

10. What other ways can you think of in which you could use your office to promote the pro-life cause? Would you like to be considered for an endorsement by our PAC?

Miers' answer: Yes

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172651,00.html

 

[Xevious]

Not surprised....Not surprised at all.

 

[evilmax17]

Realistically, it seems like it's only a matter of time until they're illegal again. I mean really, how long until there's another opening in the court? I can take comfort in knowing that this will never affect me personally, but I weep for the future generation.

 

[PittsburghAfterDark]

You do realize of course that outside the pro life/choice arguments that Roe v. Wade is simply bad law.

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You do realize of course that outside the pro life/choice arguments that Roe v. Wade is simply bad law.[/QUOTE]

Shhhh! You're bringing logic into the discussion!

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You do realize of course that outside the pro life/choice arguments that Roe v. Wade is simply bad law.[/QUOTE]

I never realized it was a law.

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']I never realized it was a law.[/QUOTE]

Bad law, bad decision, badly reasoned opinion. You've never heard of the term "constitutional law"? There is a difference between A law and THE law.

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='elprincipe']Bad law, bad decision, badly reasoned opinion. You've never heard of the term "constitutional law"? There is a difference between A law and THE law.[/QUOTE]

Roe v Wade is a decision. Decisions != law.

Constitutional law refers to interpretation of the constitution. While decisions are based on constitutional law, decisions are not laws.

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']Roe v Wade is a decision. Decisions != law.

Constitutional law refers to interpretation of the constitution. While decisions are based on constitutional law, decisions are not laws.[/QUOTE]

Evidently someone does not understand the usage of the word "law" in the English language.

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='elprincipe']Evidently someone does not understand the usage of the word "law" in the English language.[/QUOTE]

Obviously you don't know anything about Jurisprudence.

Anyways, ever notice how much the legislators get really bitchy when they feel court justices have overstepped their limits? Their main arguments are that the courts are legislating, which the courts are not supposed to do.

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']Obviously you don't know anything about Jurisprudence.

Anyways, ever notice how much the legislators get really bitchy when they feel court justices have overstepped their limits? Their main arguments are that the courts are legislating, which the courts are not supposed to do.[/QUOTE]

Do us a favor and know what you're talking about before speaking (or typing).

Main Entry: 1law
Pronunciation: 'lo
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lagu, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse log law; akin to Old English licgan to lie -- more at LIE
1 a (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules (3) : COMMON LAW b (1) : the control brought about by the existence or enforcement of such law (2) : the action of laws considered as a means of redressing wrongs; also : LITIGATION (3) : the agency of or an agent of established law c : a rule or order that it is advisable or obligatory to observe d : something compatible with or enforceable by established law e : CONTROL, AUTHORITY
2 a often capitalized : the revelation of the will of God set forth in the Old Testament b capitalized : the first part of the Jewish scriptures : PENTATEUCH, TORAH -- see BIBLE table
3 : a rule of construction or procedure
4 : the whole body of laws relating to one subject
5 a : the legal profession b : law as a department of knowledge : JURISPRUDENCE c : legal knowledge
6 a : a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is known is invariable under the given conditions b : a general relation proved or assumed to hold between mathematical or logical expressions
- at law : under or within the provisions of the law

 

[Trancendental]

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You do realize of course that outside the pro life/choice arguments that Roe v. Wade is simply bad law.[/QUOTE]

I hope you like it, because if that crazy evagelical gets on the board we're going to see alot of bad law!

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='elprincipe']Do us a favor and know what you're talking about before speaking (or typing).

Main Entry: 1law
Pronunciation: 'lo
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lagu, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse log law; akin to Old English licgan to lie -- more at LIE
1 a (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules (3) : COMMON LAW b (1) : the control brought about by the existence or enforcement of such law (2) : the action of laws considered as a means of redressing wrongs; also : LITIGATION (3) : the agency of or an agent of established law c : a rule or order that it is advisable or obligatory to observe d : something compatible with or enforceable by established law e : CONTROL, AUTHORITY
2 a often capitalized : the revelation of the will of God set forth in the Old Testament b capitalized : the first part of the Jewish scriptures : PENTATEUCH, TORAH -- see BIBLE table
3 : a rule of construction or procedure
4 : the whole body of laws relating to one subject
5 a : the legal profession b : law as a department of knowledge : JURISPRUDENCE c : legal knowledge
6 a : a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is known is invariable under the given conditions b : a general relation proved or assumed to hold between mathematical or logical expressions
- at law : under or within the provisions of the law [/QUOTE]

Point being?

Jurisprudence - The legal doctrines and theories believed by the courts to be correct and proper. (the philosophy of law)

The constitution provides statements to dervice jurisprudential decisions. The constitution itself is NOT jurisprudential. (These are the exact specifications that my constitution professor outlined for me). Anyways, jurisprudence is meant to decide how right the law is. Since we do not question how right our constitution is, we can basically take the constitution out of that realm. THe constitution is a guide from which we derive our laws, and therefore, the constitution is what we compare the laws to to see how correct they are.

Constitutional law refers only to the foundational laws of the land. The constitution is a very broad guide to how to run our country. It tells how we govern the country, in what form we elect our peers and what powers are delegated to whom. The bill of rights outlines what freedoms are to be unabridged, or what laws are allowed to be enforced. From there, we make up our laws with only the consent of the people, so long as it does not violate any statue in the constitution. Roe v Wade != Constitutional law.

Anyways, it's not the place of the courts to legislate. It's the legistlatues' business to legislate. It's the purpose of the courts to see if the laws passed violate the consitution's terms. Not to make law.

Take, for instance, Brown v Board. The courts found that seperate but equal is unconstitutional and told the schools that they had to integrate. There was no law that the courts made. Rather, they said that the law states used to follow was wrong and that if they don't change their actions (if they don't integrate), they stand to start breaking the law.

 

[evanft]

[quote name='camoor']I hope you like it, because if that crazy evagelical gets on the board we're going to see alot of bad law![/QUOTE]

Pwned.

Remember, kids! A decision is only good if you agree with it!

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']Point being?

(a bunch of crap snipped)[/QUOTE]

My point is that you incorrectly chastised PAD for his correct usage of the word "law." Nothing more, nothing less. I don't know why you can't accept it, especially when I went to the trouble of taking 5 seconds to find and post the proof that you were wrong.

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='elprincipe']My point is that you incorrectly chastised PAD for his correct usage of the word "law." Nothing more, nothing less. I don't know why you can't accept it, especially when I went to the trouble of taking 5 seconds to find and post the proof that you were wrong.[/QUOTE]

The courts never legislated anything. Roe v Wade is a decision. Not a law. If you had read what you deemed "a bunch of crap", you'd see that there is a major difference between law and decisions. Decisions being what the courts make and laws being what the legislatures make. Not to mention, your definition didn't mention anything about courts.

Roe v Wade overturned laws. Never created any. It is incorrect to say that Roe v Wade is a law.

ANyways, find me a site that refers to row v wade as a "law" (and make it reputable).

 

[elprincipe]

[quote name='capitalist_mao']The courts never legislated anything. Roe v Wade is a decision. Not a law. If you had read what you deemed "a bunch of crap", you'd see that there is a major difference between law and decisions. Decisions being what the courts make and laws being what the legislatures make. Not to mention, your definition didn't mention anything about courts.

Roe v Wade overturned laws. Never created any. It is incorrect to say that Roe v Wade is a law.

ANyways, find me a site that refers to row v wade as a "law" (and make it reputable).[/QUOTE]

I guess you're just wilfully not wanting to understand here. The original usage was not saying Roe v Wade was a law. Go back and read it again. Then read the definition of "law" that I posted. You're very dense. If you can't figure it out from what I've already posted, I don't know what to say to you. My original post was just meant to clear things up for you, but evidently I have failed in that educational goal.

 

[kakomu]

[quote name='elprincipe']I guess you're just wilfully not wanting to understand here. The original usage was not saying Roe v Wade was a law. Go back and read it again. Then read the definition of "law" that I posted. You're very dense. If you can't figure it out from what I've already posted, I don't know what to say to you. My original post was just meant to clear things up for you, but evidently I have failed in that educational goal.[/QUOTE]

You're going to have to explain yourself, since you're being rather cryptic.

Posting a long definition, ignoring all factual evidence that I provided and then calling me dense doesn't do much to prove your point (or prove the validity of your point)

 

[kakomu]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1245302

Bush did not directly answer the question that was posed to him by a reporter at the end of the meeting whether the White House is working on contingency plans to withdraw Miers nomination in the face of opposition to her from liberals and conservatives. Instead, he said that she is an "extraordinary woman" and that he understands people want to learn more about her.

Earlier, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Bush is committed to sticking with Miers until the Senate vote. "He's confident that she will be confirmed because as senators come to know her like the president knows her, we're confident that they will recognize she will make an outstanding Supreme Court justice," McClellan said.

So, does that mean she's going to send poorly written cards to all these senators talking about how they're the best and hang around them a lot?