Random House Publishing Let's the Terrorists Win

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']Nice of you to throw out an article (the 2nd one), or blog rather, that refers to Catholics as "demented fuckwits."[/QUOTE]

I never said that was my opinion -- it just happened to document something that had otherwise gone mostly unreported. And free speech is free speech. There's no standard where "offensive to Muslims" is okay, but "offensive to Catholics" is not.

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']As far as those death threats go, they are isolated incidents from individuals, you don't have entire sects or churches threatening violence against a a school district, let alone acting on those threats (as some Muslim groups have in Denmark for example). The Mormon church is against gay marriage in California, but they certainly aren't threating violence against any polticians or people who vote in favor of it.[/QUOTE]

How many "unorganized" examples of threats and violence equal an "organized" threat and violence, exactly?

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']Also, I asked for things that have been stopped due to a protest (not even violence) and the list that you and camoor provided don't fulfill that request. Sure you posted things that Christians might not like, and even protest or boycott. But that hasn't stopped anything from coming to fruitition.[/QUOTE]

I felt that Camoor handled that perfectly well, with his long list of examples.
 
[quote name='camoor']good point. Hopefully next they'll stop reprinting huck finn.[/quote]


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[quote name='sandaz93']If somebody used the n-word for no reason, not like for a story or something, but just to insult people.[/quote]

What about a transcript of a Chris Rock set?
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']so youre saying theyre similar because they use the first amendment, vote, spend their money as they see fit.[/quote]

Actually my whole point was that foreign fundamentalist Muslims do not use similar methods to American Evangelical Christians, Scientologists, etc

The more motivated American religious groups vote and spend their money as they see fit - using the political process and letting the market speak is A-OK with me.

They also make their displeasure known - again, a very American right protected by the first amendment.

However as an American I enjoy using my first amendment rights as well. When another group manipulates poorly written congressional legislation in a way that effectively turns the FCC into their own private morality police, I'm going to speak out. Think about the situation of anyone who works on modern-day airwaves - we live in a scary world when violating just one listener's/viewer's sense of vaguely-defined "indecency" can net you insane fines and possibly the loss of your livelihood. It has a chilling effect - do I dare air a serious news piece about prostitution or news-worthy sexual issues - should TV shows acknowledge that homosexual people exist and have relationships akin to heterosexual relationships complete with normal actions like kissing - just try putting the "safe search" on any mainstream internet browser and see if you can find serious non-exploitative discussion of typically taboo social topics.
 
[quote name='sandaz93']If somebody used the n-word for no reason, not like for a story or something, but just to insult people.[/quote]

According to who? You?

Let me break it down further - how exactly did the book insult Muslims? By providing a different viewpoint on Mohammad's life (one that the author intended to be respectful)?
 
[quote name='camoor']According to who? You?

Let me break it down further - how exactly did the book insult Muslims? By providing a different viewpoint on Mohammad's life (one that the author intended to be respectful)?[/QUOTE]

Beyond that, RH didn't *know* Muslims would be offended -- they just assumed. And frankly, it's impossible to publish anything without someone, somewhere being offended.
 
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