Republican debate on CNN

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Highlights:

- Repeal of the 14th Amendment
- Bachmann officially announcing her candidacy
- Private industry would've put colonies on the moon, but NASA pissed the money away
- Iraq is a shining example of success in the Middle-East
- Reinstate DADT
- Give Afghanistan to the Taliban
- Bruins up 4-0(yes, two candidates actually mentioned this...)
- Palin was a better choice for VP than Biden and by extention, would be a better President than Obama.
- Other crazy shit that I can't remember because there was so much crazy shit

Summary: TROLOLOLOL'd


edit: Just remembered this one, Muslims should be treated like Nazi's and commies during McCarthyism.
 
I cant really argue with, "Giving Afghanistan to ___." Doesnt even really matter who it is. I'd give it to neo-nazis. Any-fucking-body can take that piece of shit from our hands.
 
It's interesting how on foreign policy, a lot of them were closer to the great Paul. Big contrast to 4 years ago when he was the 'crazy' for wanting to give habeas corpus to detainees and withdraw from Afghanistan.
 
I wish the moderators would actually push people on issues when they are dodging or just giving a speach. For instance right at the start of the debate the moderator asks Pawlenty if cutting taxes is really a way to grow the economy since the last 10 years we have had the Bush tax cuts in place and things stalled. Timmy boy goes on this long rant about how its not just cutting tax policy but also stuff like deregulation that will set him apart....yet this is all shit Bush did too. So why then not point out to him, your plan is nothing new...its just the Bush plan again.
 
T-Paw won't raise taxes, just ask any Minnesotan. What he will do though is raise the fuck out of "fees" (paid to the government) for everything.
 
It kills me when politicians try to act like normal people. It's a political debate for fuck sake, if you want the score to a game then look the shit up, but keep it out of debates.
 
I also loved the I have 10 kids, 22 grand kids, 4 mistresses, 3 dogs and 543 great grand kids bit at the beginning. No better way to prove your a Conservative Christian faster then pointing out your a breeder.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']people actually watched this?jeez, at least you're on a site where a hobby is only a few clicks away.[/QUOTE]

I watched the first 20 or so mins trying to give them a fair shake and take them seriously.....big mistake. In the end after about that I had to turn it off because it was just the same lines over and over and over, at that point I just watched highlights on CNN and ABC.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I also loved the I have 10 kids, 22 grand kids, 4 mistresses, 3 dogs and 543 great grand kids bit at the beginning. No better way to prove your a Conservative Christian faster then pointing out your a breeder.[/QUOTE]
You needs backups in case any die turn out to be gay.
 
I watched this while playing New Vegas last night. I really wonder is Pawlenty lost his nerve to confront Romney or if the party finally bribed/threatened him enough to finally get his ass in line. But from the looks of it Romney will be the running man, especially since Gallup just released a poll saying that most Americans are looking to elect the most likely to win, not the one they necessarily agree with and Romney is ahead of the pack there.
 
I just wonder
1. How Romney would run against Obama. Would he stay hard right as he has recently or would he try and pull back to the center?
2. How would he govern? Would he be the hard right crazy he has been recently or would he support policies to fight global warming or leftist stuff like his health care platform?
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I just wonder
1. How Romney would run against Obama. Would he stay hard right as he has recently or would he try and pull back to the center?
2. How would he govern? Would he be the hard right crazy he has been recently or would he support policies to fight global warming or leftist stuff like his health care platform?[/QUOTE]
Question 1 has a definite correct answer. You always, ALWAYS run to the center for the general. Always. No matter what kind of crazy comes out of the primaries, that is always the case.

Question 2 is more iffy. Most likely not as far right as the primary (how could it be otherwise), but to the right of the general campaign. A Romney win implies further Republican Congressional wins though, so they'd have enough firepower for full on crazytown. Maybe even veto overriding if Romney isnt nuts enough for them. The war is the big question, since most of them are only anti-war because of who is President. Cant look soft on terror after all. Bush Tax cuts - permanent. Tax cuts even beyond that. Deregulation of everything then can get their hands on of course. If the killing Medicare ads dont completely ruin the Republicans in 2012, I guess they're pretty much mandated to do that. Lots of abortion stuff.

Its a pretty straightforward playbook. Its the Boehner House on roids.
 
I do not think a Romney win guarantees a Republican congress. I think it makes it more likely, but I think the public right now is just upset with anyone in power. That means I would not be surprised if they tossed out Obama but also the Republicans in control at the moment.
 
[quote name='Ron Paul']I wouldn’t wait for my generals, I’m the commander in chief. I make the decisions. I tell the generals what to do. I’d bring them home as quickly as possible. And I would get them out of Iraq as well. And I wouldn’t start a war in Libya. I’d quit bombing Yemen. And I’d quit bombing Pakistan. I’d start taking care of people here at home because we could save hundreds of billions of dollars. Our national security is not enhanced by our presence over there. We have no purpose there. We should learn the lessons of history. The longer we're there, the worse things will be, and the more danger we will be in as well - because our presence there is not making friends, let me tell you.[/quote]


And yet Romney gets credit for bringing the discussion of leaving Afghanistan to the table. When he repeated the same, tired answer of "I'd only leave if the generals and commanders on the ground said we should" tripe. Unreal.
 
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KING: And so, Dr. Paul, to you on this one, the question comes up, though, once they're in the country illegally, you have -- compassion sometimes bumps up against enforcing the law and state budget crises. A 5-year-old child of an illegal immigrant walks into an emergency room. Does the child get care?

PAUL: Well, first off, we shouldn't have the mandates. We bankrupted the hospitals and the schools in Texas and other states. We shouldn't give them easy citizenship.

We should think about protecting our borders, rather than the borders between Iraq and Afghanistan. That doesn't make any sense to me.

(APPLAUSE)

But on -- on coming in, you know, there was a time when government wasn't -- we didn't depend on government for everything. There was a time when the Catholic Church actually looked after...

KING: But should they get care? Should they get care? Should taxpayers have to pay for that care?

PAUL: No, they should not be forced to, but we wouldn't -- we shouldn't be penalizing the Catholic Church, because they're trying to fulfill a role. And some of the anti-immigrants want to come down hard on the Catholic Church, and that is wrong.

If we believed in our free society -- as a matter of fact, this whole immigration problem is related to the economy. People aren't coming over as much now because it's weak. When we had a healthy economy, some of our people didn't work (ph) and people flowed over here getting jobs. So there is an economic issue here, as well.

But, no, if you have an understanding and -- and you want to believe in freedom, freedom has solved these kind of problems before. You don't have to say, oh, you're not going to have care or there won't be any care and everybody is going to starve to death and -- and die on the streets without medical care. That's the implication of the question. That's just not true, and you shouldn't accept it.
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The correct answer is 'yes'. Although he was still my favorite in the debate.
 
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