Republicans can't take it

After hearing again and again how Dems want to count every vote [repeatedly], it's funny to see that the Democrats don't care so much when the system finds for them. On the *third* recount. Okay, we won, we'll quit counting now.
Surely it's not simply because of the parties, because I thought Democrats thought the vote was sacred. Oh wait, I'm wrong: "Every Democrat except Sen. Tim Sheldon, D-Potlatch, voted against the delay"

" Democratic stronghold and the state's largest county, cannot match more than a thousand votes to actual voter names."
But Ohio gets all the attention? Where there was actually no evidence of foul play?

Dare I say hypocrites rofl
 
There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.

Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.

The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.
 
" many questions and discrepancies have surfaced, ranging from dead voters to mistakenly counted provisional ballots."

" Democratic stronghold and the state's largest county, cannot match more than a thousand votes to actual voter names. "

So if a Republican wants recounts, or these issues studied, it's because he's a crooked hypocrite and wants to steal the election. If a Democrat does it, stopping at the third recount which, coincidentally, they 'won' by 129 alleged votes, it's because they care about 'every vote', even the ones for dead people or that have no names, and that's a good thing.
I got it. Republicans=Crooked election stealers; Democrats=Holy guardians of democracy; Camoor=bigot.

Ironically, I would think you'd like the 'lawyering up.' Since virtually all lawyer political donations go to Democrats, they'll profit either way.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']Republicans=Crooked election stealers; Democrats=Holy guardians of democracy;[/quote]

Take out the holy (remember, republicans are the ones that pimp Jesus) and you've got the truth.

Oh, and republicans are the bigots. Dems are for gay marriage and against holy crusades.
 
Washington governor's election summed up.

1. Machine count hands victory to Republicans.
2. Machine re-count hands victory to Republicans.
3. Weeks later, in a manual recount, King County (Overwhelmingly Democratic.) "finds" just enough uncounted ballots that the machines magically missed, never tracked, never counted.

Republican's are spoiled sports who can't accept defeat. Look it up, it's true.
 
I don't know enough about this election to call it fair or unfair, but it seems odd to be so suspicious of the hand recount. The two machine votes were obviously close enough to demand a hand count and hand counts should be more accurate than machine counts. If the vote wasn't close enough to swing either way initially, they never would have had the first recount.

I'm for counting every vote in every election. As long as that's done, I can live with the winner.
 
The majority of people in Washington question the outcome of this election, regardless of which candidate won. It's just a farking ugly mess that hasn't gotten much national press. I, for one, find it incredibly hard to believe that 2.2 million+ votes cast result in a winning margin of less than 300.

There's something really strange going on with voting in this country when so many major races are being decided by less than 1,000 votes. Florida and New Mexico in 2000 (Presidential), Washington in 2004 (Governors), several state offices falling down to a few hundred votes out of hundreds of thousands cast. I don't believe this is conincidental.

We are not a 50/50 nation. I think decades of Democratic machine (Political machine, not voting machine.) voting and election controls are failing and their box stuffing isn't getting the job done and they're left crying "Count every vote, count every vote!" so they have enough time to "find" enough votes to win.

That's what they did in Washington. That's why residents up there on both sides don't like the outcome of this election. No mention of course of the thousands of military votes that weren't counted due to out of date postmarks from the Bremerton naval base. You know, why do we need to count the votes of guys on Ohio class submarines that carry 150+ nuclear warheads? I mean, their postmarks were late. You mean they don't have reliable mail service to submarines?

This election was a joke and there would be and should be whining and lawsuits galore over it.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='dtcarson']Republicans=Crooked election stealers; Democrats=Holy guardians of democracy;[/quote]

Take out the holy (remember, republicans are the ones that pimp Jesus) and you've got the truth.

Oh, and republicans are the bigots. Dems are for gay marriage and against holy crusades.[/quote]

Incorrect.
A. I'm a Republican who doesn't pimp Jesus.
B. Your statements right there prove your bigotry.
bigot: "one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

"a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own"

I'm quite tolerant of those who differ. I may disagree or think someone's a dumbass, but as long as they're harming me or mine, I could care less. With every post, however, you prove your intolerance even more.
 
You can knock Christians all you want, you can call Republicans every name in the book, you can say they're Nazis, fascists, they pimp Jesus, hate gays, want to hang niggers and it's okay. You can say Republicans believe in war for profit, they want to make war on the environment, want to starve children, make old people chose between food and medicine. You can say that all they care about is big business. You are allowed to say Republicans are ignorant rednecks that fuck their sisters, have no education, live in trailer parks and have gun racks on their pickup.

This just means you are a tolerant, visionary, caring, sensitive individual. It means you have the correct vision of the world and you just want everyone to live in harmony under the warmth and glow of a warm summer sun. You can't be a bigot when you use the words and phrases above, you just can't be.

Get it?
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
I may disagree or think someone's a dumbass, but as long as they're harming me or mine,
Click to expand...

So, you're into the S&M thing. :lol:[/quote]

Heh...The absence of three little letters makes such a difference :)
Now, depends on *who's* doing the harming....
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']...Weeks later, in a manual recount, King County (Overwhelmingly Democratic.) "finds" just enough uncounted ballots that the machines magically missed, never tracked, never counted.
[/quote]

Here come the conspiracy theories...
 
[quote name='camoor']
Oh, and republicans are the bigots. Dems are for gay marriage and against holy crusades.[/quote]

Actually I don't hink the party has ever said officiailly that they are for gay marriage and Kerry personally said he was against it if I recall. However, democrats were against the amendment to ban gay marriage or whatever, that some republicans were for.
 
See, here's our problem, a basic misunderstanding of what words mean. What PAD posted is not a conspiracy theory. What he posted was *fact* based on the article *You posted*.
Two machine recounts, same result.
One hand recount, in a Democratic county, in spite of "many questions and discrepancies", the Democrat barely ekes out a win [129 out of 2.9 million is infinitesmal.] Regardless of party, that does seem somewhat suspicious; add to the fact that the same party that wanted months of recounts in 2000, and the same in Ohio, for the 'sanctity of the vote', is now saying ""No do-over, no delay,"", and rushing to affirm the 1 out of 3 results where they won. It definitely is a little suspicious at worst, hypocritical at best.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell'][quote name='camoor']
Oh, and republicans are the bigots. Dems are for gay marriage and against holy crusades.[/quote]

Actually I don't hink the party has ever said officiailly that they are for gay marriage and Kerry personally said he was against it if I recall. However, democrats were against the amendment to ban gay marriage or whatever, that some republicans were for.[/quote]

Any many Democrats were for as well, seeing as how they passed in all 11 states where they were on the ballot, by greater margins than what GWB won by [if he won in that specific state].
 
The margin of victory of 129 out of 2.9 million votes cast is .004%.

So go ahead and claim your mandate that .004% more voters preferred the Democratic candidate. Sorry you can't deal with facts camoor, I mean I guess that's what it takess to qualify as a hockey helmeted, short bus riding, chronically masturbating wonder tard.

Did I claim conspiracy? I said no such thing. I just found it incredible that with two vote tallies counted an overwhelmingly Democratic county "found" just enough ballots to overcome the results of the previous counts. I mean that's just incredible, these votes just appeared! The machines didn't find them the first time, they didn't find them the second time but dammit when we got humans in here.... VIOLA!.... just enough votes came out of that Democratic county to win! Hallelujah it's a miracle! So tell me, since this was a miracle... why don't Democrats have more faith in God??? :dunce:
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']The margin of victory of 129 out of 2.9 million votes cast is .004%.

So go ahead and claim your mandate that .004% more voters preferred the Democratic candidate. Sorry you can't deal with facts camoor, I mean I guess that's what it means to qualify as a hockey helmeted, short bus riding, chronically masturbating wonder tard.[/quote]

Do you have that insult hot-keyed or do you have to type it each time?

Regardless of who "wins" in this election, the margin of victory will be very small. That doesn't make it invalid.
 
I should hot key that insult, I seem to use it a lot on this board.

If I knew he was a woman I might use my other favorite insult; sperm burping gutter whore.

If a Republican came from behind and overcame a 250-300 statewide vote margin of victory in an Republican county there would be holy hell to pay and you know it. I'm not saying conspiracy, hell, I think it's a miracle and God should be praised by lefties.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I should hot key that insult, I seem to use it a lot on this board.

If I knew he was a woman I might use my other favorite insult; sperm burping gutter whore.

If a Republican came from behind and overcame a 250-300 statewide vote margin of victory in an Republican county there would be holy hell to pay and you know it. I'm not saying conspiracy, hell, I think it's a miracle and God should be praised by lefties.[/quote]

And wouldn't that 300 vote margin be only 0.008% of the total? It's not unreasonable to see the election going the other way.
 
I think one of the reasons no one cares is people only get concerned about other states elections when it involves a president. Though this seems to be the reverse of florida, people stating legitimate concerns about why the results may have been incorrect, then the other party trying to shut them up, except this time it's the republicans complaining. Some of the democrats here seem to be doing it tongue in cheek though.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'] I'm not saying conspiracy, hell, I think it's a miracle and God should be praised by lefties.[/quote]

But I don't even believe in Jebus.

*Looks out window at Bush super-party*

Save me Jebus!
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You don't believe in Jesus? I'm shocked, color me surprised.[/quote]

LOL I forgot it was the new law.

I for one welcome our new magic carpenter overlord...
 
[quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote]

They hand counted the votes with a republican and democrat present at each counter's desk.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote]

They hand counted the votes with a republican and democrat present at each counter's desk.[/quote]

Although that's very comforting, that didn't answer either of my two questions.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']After hearing again and again how Dems want to count every vote [repeatedly], it's funny to see that the Democrats don't care so much when the system finds for them. On the *third* recount. Okay, we won, we'll quit counting now.
Surely it's not simply because of the parties, because I thought Democrats thought the vote was sacred. Oh wait, I'm wrong: "Every Democrat except Sen. Tim Sheldon, D-Potlatch, voted against the delay"

" Democratic stronghold and the state's largest county, cannot match more than a thousand votes to actual voter names."
But Ohio gets all the attention? Where there was actually no evidence of foul play?

Dare I say hypocrites rofl[/quote]

do you support a recount of the election for Ag. Comm. ?
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote]

They hand counted the votes with a republican and democrat present at each counter's desk.[/quote]

Although that's very comforting, that didn't answer either of my two questions.[/quote]

A cool new way you can find the answers to questions that you may have!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Washington+Election+Gregoire+&btnG=Search+News
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote]

They hand counted the votes with a republican and democrat present at each counter's desk.[/quote]

Although that's very comforting, that didn't answer either of my two questions.[/quote]

A cool new way you can find the answers to questions that you may have!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Washington+Election+Gregoire+&btnG=Search+News[/quote]

As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

You can go here and see the recount totals. All 3 candidates gained votes in each recount, so while it's impossible to say all votes were counted (some must have been impossible to decipher0, more votes were counted in the final hand recount than the previous 2 machine counts. So I would say the hand recount is the most accurate right now.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']There's a serious problem when machines consistently add votes to Republican tallies.[/quote]

Evidence?

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]

Evidence that every vote was counted?

[quote name='camoor']The Repbulicans are the hypocrites. They lost, it happens, get over it already. Stop with the constant whining and lawyering up.[/quote]

Both parties are hypocrites because they criticize the other party for "whining and lawyering up" while doing the same themselves whenever the shoe is on the other foot.[/quote]

They hand counted the votes with a republican and democrat present at each counter's desk.[/quote]

Although that's very comforting, that didn't answer either of my two questions.[/quote]

A cool new way you can find the answers to questions that you may have!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Washington+Election+Gregoire+&btnG=Search+News[/quote]

As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

Of course I know that all votes were counted, you would see that if you looked at a few of the news stories that my query pulled up. Conspiracy theory... no, as CSI says, I'm just following the evidence. Machine counts come up Republican 2 times, handcount proves a Democrat won. Look up who the current governor of Washington state is if you don't believe me.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='elprincipe']As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

You can go here and see the recount totals. All 3 candidates gained votes in each recount, so while it's impossible to say all votes were counted (some must have been impossible to decipher0, more votes were counted in the final hand recount than the previous 2 machine counts. So I would say the hand recount is the most accurate right now.[/quote]

Again that's very nice, but has nothing to do with what I said. Camoor's original statement was that Democrats wanted to see every vote counted, which is why they asked for three recounts. I asked if every vote was counted. Thus, having no positive response or proof, it's obvious that the original statement was unadulterated partisan bullshit.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='elprincipe']As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

You can go here and see the recount totals. All 3 candidates gained votes in each recount, so while it's impossible to say all votes were counted (some must have been impossible to decipher0, more votes were counted in the final hand recount than the previous 2 machine counts. So I would say the hand recount is the most accurate right now.[/quote]

Again that's very nice, but has nothing to do with what I said. Camoor's original statement was that Democrats wanted to see every vote counted, which is why they asked for three recounts. I asked if every vote was counted. Thus, having no positive response or proof, it's obvious that the original statement was unadulterated partisan bullshit.[/quote]

Geez every vote was hand counted. Unless you want to fly to Washington and recount them all yourself, this is the best possible evidence that each vote was properly tallied.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='elprincipe']As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

You can go here and see the recount totals. All 3 candidates gained votes in each recount, so while it's impossible to say all votes were counted (some must have been impossible to decipher0, more votes were counted in the final hand recount than the previous 2 machine counts. So I would say the hand recount is the most accurate right now.[/quote]

Again that's very nice, but has nothing to do with what I said. Camoor's original statement was that Democrats wanted to see every vote counted, which is why they asked for three recounts. I asked if every vote was counted. Thus, having no positive response or proof, it's obvious that the original statement was unadulterated partisan bullshit.[/quote]

Geez every vote was hand counted. Unless you want to fly to Washington and recount them all yourself, this is the best possible evidence that each vote was properly tallied.[/quote]

There are plenty of accusations of vote fraud or mistakes, including military votes from submarines that weren't dated properly and more votes cast in areas than registered voters. Of course, since Republicans are making these accusations instead of Democats, it's all a conspiracy theory, right?

And no one in their right mind thinks every vote was counted. There are mistakes in every election at this point in time due to the technology involved. Saying you want every vote counted is a great goal, but getting upset because it wasn't fulfilled when it never has in an election of that size is just partisan bullshit.
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='elprincipe']As I suspected, you have no idea whether all the votes were counted or not. Also you have no evidence that voting machines are adding votes for Republicans and not Democrats in every instance. In fact, you can't ever find any evidence for either of those things because in an election of this size every vote is not going to be counted given the technology, and your other accusation is merely a conspiracy theory advanced by the Left with no evidence whatsoever.[/quote]

You can go here and see the recount totals. All 3 candidates gained votes in each recount, so while it's impossible to say all votes were counted (some must have been impossible to decipher0, more votes were counted in the final hand recount than the previous 2 machine counts. So I would say the hand recount is the most accurate right now.[/quote]

Again that's very nice, but has nothing to do with what I said. Camoor's original statement was that Democrats wanted to see every vote counted, which is why they asked for three recounts. I asked if every vote was counted. Thus, having no positive response or proof, it's obvious that the original statement was unadulterated partisan bullshit.[/quote]

Geez every vote was hand counted. Unless you want to fly to Washington and recount them all yourself, this is the best possible evidence that each vote was properly tallied.[/quote]

There are plenty of accusations of vote fraud or mistakes, including military votes from submarines that weren't dated properly and more votes cast in areas than registered voters. Of course, since Republicans are making these accusations instead of Democats, it's all a conspiracy theory, right?

And no one in their right mind thinks every vote was counted. There are mistakes in every election at this point in time due to the technology involved. Saying you want every vote counted is a great goal, but getting upset because it wasn't fulfilled when it never has in an election of that size is just partisan bullshit.[/quote]

So then why are you still complaining?
 
[quote name='camoor']So then why are you still complaining?[/quote]

Not complaining, just pointing out your partisan lies (aka spin if you are in Washington).
 
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']So then why are you still complaining?[/quote]

Not complaining, just pointing out your partisan lies (aka spin if you are in Washington).[/quote]

Sure sounds like complaining to me. The law called for a hand recount when an appeal is granted, and that's what Washington did. There is always going to be disgruntled voters when an erroneous election result is overturned. You're just going to have to live with it.
 
What bothers me is that once the recount goes in favor of the democrat, somehow it's all over and he's the victor. The democrat won on the third recount, so where's the fourth? Why is it that the loser of the election only has to win once, whereas the alleged victor must win time and time and time again?
 
[quote name='Pylis']What bothers me is that once the recount goes in favor of the democrat, somehow it's all over and he's the victor. The democrat won on the third recount, so where's the fourth? Why is it that the loser of the election only has to win once, whereas the alleged victor must win time and time and time again?[/quote]

Because the hand recount is usually the most accurate. It's also the most costly and time-consuming so it's done as a last resort. I'm sure if any allegations of voter fraud can be proven, they can do the hand recount again.
 
So MBE, what do you make of the report that an average of 40 dead people per Washington county voted Democratic and in King county several dozen registered Democrat voters were traced to storage locker addresses?

Like I said... fruad????? No way! MIRACLE! Jesus be praised!
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So MBE, what do you make of the report that an average of 40 dead people per Washington county voted Democratic and in King county several dozen registered Democrat voters were traced to storage locker addresses?

Like I said... fruad????? No way! MIRACLE! Jesus be praised![/quote]

If it's proven to be true (and not just a rumor) then it should be corrected.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']To the point of voiding the election and throwing out the governor?[/quote]

Whatever the state laws there dictate.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='camoor']So then why are you still complaining?[/quote]

Not complaining, just pointing out your partisan lies (aka spin if you are in Washington).[/quote]

Sure sounds like complaining to me. The law called for a hand recount when an appeal is granted, and that's what Washington did. There is always going to be disgruntled voters when an erroneous election result is overturned. You're just going to have to live with it.[/quote]

Okay, let's just remind you of what you stated with certainty earlier in this thread to point out your inconsistencies:

[quote name='camoor']Dems aren't hypocrites. They want every vote counted and the third time, that's what finally happened.[/quote]
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So MBE, what do you make of the report that an average of 40 dead people per Washington county voted Democratic and in King county several dozen registered Democrat voters were traced to storage locker addresses?

Like I said... fruad????? No way! MIRACLE! Jesus be praised![/quote]

First of all, obviously for MBE and camoor the most accurate count is always the one where the Democrat wins because that is obviously the most accurate because, after all, it is only Republicans who would even think to commit electoral fraud and all Democrats are naive and innocent, besides they would always win if things were fair.

Secondly, they wouldn't be praising Jesus, let me assure you. :wink:
 
[quote name='elprincipe']First of all, obviously for MBE and camoor the most accurate count is always the one where the Democrat wins because that is obviously the most accurate because, after all, it is only Republicans who would even think to commit electoral fraud and all Democrats are naive and innocent, besides they would always win if things were fair.

Secondly, they wouldn't be praising Jesus, let me assure you. :wink:[/quote]

So what do you think the most accurate means of counting the votes is?
 
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