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I went into CC yesterday looking for $1.99 games.

I found several games on the list posted in a different forum.

I had one of the employees scan the prices.

GAH! Talk about a rip off!

$14.99 for 18-Wheeler All-American Pro Trucker?

$9.99 for other worthless games that can be bought on eBay for less than $5?

Why do retailers gouge so much?

I paid $10 for Suikoden IV on Thursday at an independent retailer.
 
GAH! A retailer acting like a business? NO WAY.

You think that just because a product can be purchased on eBay for cheaper that suddenly businesses are gouging people with their prices?

Do you even understand the following words?
Employee
Taxes
Product
Business
Service

If you had paid attention in your "different forum", you would have noticed that not all the games on the $1.99 list will ring up at that price due to the value stickers and whatnot. Get over the fact that retailers are trying to do exactly what they are in business for.
 
#3
Ah, my first homosexual insult. Since I don't know how a phallus feels up my ass, could you explain for the class how it feels up your ass?

#4
Ol' Buddy's in Elizabethtown, KY. A very respectable dealer in this area with a better selection and prices than any chain retailer. No instructions, but I'll resell it for $19.50 on eBay this week.

#2
Explain to me how each of these words force a business to sell a game at least 3X its Ebay value.

Also explain to me how I can run a profitable business without gouging people? I don't have employees (yet), I pay taxes, I carry many of the same titles as chain stores and I gladly accept returns when customers claim games are defective.
 
First of all people on ebay can sell for less than most retailers because they buy these games when they're clearanced out, such as during a cc $1.99 sale. On the other hand your local best buy can't walk into CC and buy 50 games to sell at their store.

Next:
Employee
Taxes
Product
Business
Service

Means that retailers have overhead. They have to pay employees, bills, taxes, etc. And being a business means they're out to make a profit.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']#3
Ah, my first homosexual insult. Since I don't know how a phallus feels up my ass, could you explain for the class how it feels up your ass?

#4
Ol' Buddy's in Elizabethtown, KY. A very respectable dealer in this area with a better selection and prices than any chain retailer. No instructions, but I'll resell it for $19.50 on eBay this week.

#2
Explain to me how each of these words force a business to sell a game at least 3X its Ebay value.[/QUOTE]
You were doing good up until your reply to #2.
 
Last time I checked CCity's main source of product and income wasnt videogames. Your friends,cousins,uncles,sisters,brothers store is about 95% games so they can (and have to) keep up with market prices. CCity would lose more money trying to retag the stuff to market rates constantly than they lose by not selling out all of their stock.

You run a business yet dont understand how CCity operates?

You hope to have employees one day that will or wont be able to support their family based on business decisions you make and you resorted to a "I know you are but what am I" type statement to show your sense and savvy?

Man, glad I dont work for you as I like food clothing and shelter.
 
And the prize goes to supadupacheap for explaining CC's gouging specifically with:

"CCity would lose more money trying to retag the stuff to market rates constantly than they lose by not selling out all of their stock."

Much better than "retailers have overhead".

"You run a business yet dont understand how CCity operates?"

CC and I run completely different styles of businesses.

They have to have large buildings to house inventory that won't sell until Christmas, dozens of low paid and unskilled staff and incredibly high prices.

I run my business out of my house (tax incentive), constantly run out of inventory throughout the year and sell hundreds of video games per month for a fraction of retail prices and a tidy profit.

"You hope to have employees one day"

Don't put words in my mouth. I'd rather have no employees. More profit for me. However, I'm working 80 hours some weeks to keep my customers' orders shipped within 24 hours of purchasing. Of course, 60 hours of that "work" is playing video games. Damn shame, huh?

"Man, glad I dont work for you as I like food clothing and shelter."

If you're working for somebody else, you've already lost half of the battle. Considering how much information is on this website alone, intelligent individuals like yourself could support themselves.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']I went into CC yesterday looking for $1.99 games.

I found several games on the list posted in a different forum.

I had one of the employees scan the prices.

GAH! Talk about a rip off!

$14.99 for 18-Wheeler All-American Pro Trucker?

$9.99 for other worthless games that can be bought on eBay for less than $5?

Why do retailers gouge so much?

I paid $10 for Suikoden IV on Thursday at an independent retailer.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're not actually a parent.
 
[quote name='dcfox']First of all people on ebay can sell for less than most retailers because they buy these games when they're clearanced out, such as during a cc $1.99 sale. On the other hand your local best buy can't walk into CC and buy 50 games to sell at their store.

Next:
Employee
Taxes
Product
Business
Service

Means that retailers have overhead. They have to pay employees, bills, taxes, etc. And being a business means they're out to make a profit.[/QUOTE]

OP, dcfox pretty much nailed it on the head in response to explaining what I meant. It is very naive of you to think that just because something is sold for $x.xx on eBay, that it can and should be sold for the same price in a store. Like I stated in my post, apparently you have no concept of an employee, paying taxes, providing a product, operating a business and providing customer service. Perhaps you should go back to your other forum and talk about eBay over there. This site is not about finding the cheapest deals on games and then reselling those games for a profit.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']
#4
Ol' Buddy's in Elizabethtown, KY. A very respectable dealer in this area with a better selection and prices than any chain retailer. No instructions, but I'll resell it for $19.50 on eBay this week.

#2
Explain to me how each of these words force a business to sell a game at least 3X its Ebay value.

Also explain to me how I can run a profitable business without gouging people? I don't have employees (yet), I pay taxes, I carry many of the same titles as chain stores and I gladly accept returns when customers claim games are defective.[/QUOTE]

What a business like CC sells a product for is not based on eBay value, but on what they paid for it, and on what the consumer is willing to pay. Ol' Buddy's apparently sells used games (hence not having instructions), which is vastly different from selling new games. You ask how you can run a profitable business without "gouging" people, yet you admitted your intent to sell a used game at almost 100% markup. I promise that the CC's markup on games is not nearly that much. You do not have employees, you do not have suppliers (I am assuming, at this point, that your "business" is reselling on eBay, as you have mentioned no other business), you do not have any overhead, and you have the luxury of being able to pick and choose what you sell -- imagine walking into CC and seeing one (used) copy of Suikoden IV, and no other games, because that is all they were able to find a deal on this week.
 
Sony sells CCity 20,000 copies of Sly Cooper for $12 each. CCity sells them for $20. CCity makes $8 per game. That $8 goes to everything mentioned above. VERY little profit is made off of that $8. Consider videogames at CCity just there for 'conveincene' and to get people in the store to look around.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']

If you're working for somebody else, you've already lost half of the battle. Considering how much information is on this website alone, intelligent individuals like yourself could support themselves.[/QUOTE]


Well not everyone is a total douche like you. Many just want to get cheap ass games to play, and not try to hoarde as much as they can, only to sell on ebay or whatever. So thanks a lot jack ass.
 
dxfox nailed it on the head, there is so much overhead to a retail store that by the time you put all those factors into the markup on the latest game that the store itself is hardly making any money off it.

As far as the $1.99 clearance sale at CC... anyone who got anything consider yourself lucky. Now with most stores pulling the product and shipping it off I'm considering the clearance sale to be over.
 
Hey FoC (isn't that great that his acroymn sounds like that?) you could be quiet. You know. Just, not bitch about prices in a store vs. Ebay? You know, if you wanted to. Then you could stop talking about selling games on Ebay for profit. Because people start to think you're bitching because Circuit City didn't have 1.99 games for you hawk on Ebay. You know, just an idea. If you want to consider it.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']Last time I checked CCity's main source of product and income wasnt videogames. Your friends,cousins,uncles,sisters,brothers store is about 95% games so they can (and have to) keep up with market prices. CCity would lose more money trying to retag the stuff to market rates constantly than they lose by not selling out all of their stock.[/QUOTE]

Well said.
 
i'm selling a porsche on ebay for a penny tomorrow so i can go to the dealership and buy a hundred of them for a dollar!

i cant wait to see the look on their face when i tell them they have to sell it to me for a penny because thats how much one is on sale for on ebay. SCORE!
 
Wow! So many insults in so little of time!

First and foremost, I'm a retailer. My goal is to make money. If you find that offensive, that's too bad.

Second, eBay is a legitimate market force. B&M establishments would be more efficient if they keep what sells or keep what is in stock marked to be competitve with eBay prices. There is very little profit in keeping a game like 18 Wheeler All American Trucker for sale at $15 when nobody is going to buy it.

Third, every business picks and chooses what it sells on some level. I pick and choose dozens or hundreds of games that will sell in a week or two for less than the average selling price on eBay. (For those of you that aren't following, I'm actually pushing the price of games downward on eBay. That saves you more money.) CC and other large firms pick and choose thousands of games that will sell in a year or two or will be resold to wholesalers with a few more connections than me.

Fourth, not applying information is wasting it. The "different forum" some of you are poo pooing is a different section of this website. If you don't want me to use the dubious information I gain from this website, get the administrator to ban me. I was making a profit before I was directed here last Thursday. I'm pretty sure I can continue making a profit without CAG.

Fifth, I am a parent. If you don't have any kids, you probably wouldn't understand how great they are, but I'm sure you'll find out one of these days.

Sixth, FOC sounds like a dirty word. That's so funny. Of course, I don't have to shorten "Friend of Sonic" to get a good chuckle.

Thinking about your name brings up two hilarious possibilities:

First, you've played Sonic the Hedgehog games enough that you consider a fictional video game character to be the closest thing you have to a friend. I'd probably die laughing if your resume has this entry in the reference section

Sonic the Hedgehog (573) 555-SEGA.

LOL!

Second, you've gone to the Sonic fast food restaurant so much that they consider you a friend. In other words, you're pushing 400-500 lbs. on a 5'8" or less frame.
 
got nothing bad to say about ya bud. just want to point out a few facts...

i heard a rumor that the goverment is considering making ebay income taxable.

second, on the new games. half the people on ebay who sell brand new games are stealing them from somewhere, reselling them cheaper to get the money, and hoping they dont get caught. Ive seen tons of whole sale lists on video games (i work at a store) and that average mark of a game is between 10-20%, leaning more towards about 15% on the majority, thats roughtly paying 42.50 per copy of any game you get. Risky opposition, no money to be made/
 
This thread is retarded. "I don't want to pay XXX price for a game, but I still want it."

Ahh, how the internet highlights the disparities between the various forms of reality different people want to inhabit...

In my reality, I own a walrus. Also it rains donuts. With sprinkles.
 
[quote name='Strell']This thread is retarded. "I don't want to pay XXX price for a game, but I still want it."[/quote]
Huh? What's wrong with wanting, say, a new $50 game, but not wanting to pay the $50, and deciding to wait until it hits $20? I think the ability to wait like that is one of the Great Virtues of the Cheap Ass Gamer.
 
When did CAG turn into such a group of assholes? Not all of them are, but some of these insults are flat-out immature and bastardy.

Maybe I expected more out of this place...
 
Coffee, that's more or less the point I'm getting at. Talking about how stuff is expensive at CAG, where a game that costs $10 bucks is considered expensive.

If you don't like the price, you wait or you find another way to get it. But what's the point of coming onto here and saying "Gosh, they want money for a game I know doesn't cost that much."
 
[quote name='Strell']Coffee, that's more or less the point I'm getting at. Talking about how stuff is expensive at CAG, where a game that costs $10 bucks is considered expensive.

If you don't like the price, you wait or you find another way to get it. But what's the point of coming onto here and saying "Gosh, they want money for a game I know doesn't cost that much."[/QUOTE]
Ah...ok, I didn't quite understand, I suppose. I took that variable in your post as meaning, say, a high number, like 50. OK, nice to have that cleared up.
 
[quote name='Strell']
In my reality, I own a walrus. Also it rains donuts. With sprinkles.[/QUOTE]

Have you taught your pet walrus any tricks? ;)
 
#20
Thanks for not insulting me. You must be one of the adults.

I have a ledger and reported all of my eBay sales last year. This year will be no exception.

Also, I generally sell used games. They were bought them from retail stores. I've got receipts for each and every one.

Stealing isn't just wrong. It's stupid.

Customers ask me at least once a week if my games are bootlegs. Why would I risk prison and a massive fine to make $15 on a game when I can be completely legit and make $5-10?
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Customers ask me at least once a week if my games are bootlegs. Why would I risk prison and a massive fine to make $15 on a game when I can be completely legit and make $5-10?[/QUOTE]
I dunno; ask the thousands of people on ebay who sell bootlegs. I guess they want that 5-10 bucks extra.
 
[quote name='Strell']This thread is retarded. "I don't want to pay XXX price for a game, but I still want it."
[/QUOTE]

Nope.

I went to Circuit City looking for $1.99 games because of a post in a different part of the CAG website.

When I finally found games on the list, they all turned out to be $9.99 or more.

I guess I've been paying wholesale prices for my stuff for too long.

I complained about the sticker shock and half of the posts are from people defending CC.

I thought people here didn't like getting gouged.

My mistake.

Admin, you can kill this thread at any time.
 
#28
Yep, and eBay knocks you off after 2 or 3 people complain about your product.

Woo Hoo! The person made $40 over several days and committed several felonies.

Me?

I sold 20 games today. Profits will be around $100 and my feedback will reach 850-900 before I go on my next spending spree to refill inventory.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Admin, you can kill this thread at any time.[/QUOTE]

Will do. Want me to call you a whaaambulance while I'm at it?
 
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