Running a red light.....help me out

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Ok, yesterday I got a ticket for "running a red light". I was turning left and the cop was waiting to turn right. He claims that he knows it was red because the light he was waiting on and mine are simultaneous and turn red at the same time. Then 5 minutes when I was going past the intersection again the same cop pulled another kid over in the same exact spot. :wall: But anyways thats not why Im posting here. I searched but didnt find anything. Where does a red light take effect? The white line that you stop at or when you actually go under the light? I went passed the white line while it was yellow for sure, couldve turned red as I was under the light idk. I have court on the 10th and might as well try to fight it, got nothing to lose. Anyone have any tips for fighting a traffic violation in court?
 
The white line is the barrier. If I remember correctly, as long as you are in the intersection before the light turns red, you are safe.

Unless of course you had more than enough time to safely slow down and stop. It depends on state.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']If I remember correctly from driver's ed, you have to completely be through the intersection before the light turns red.[/QUOTE]

That sounds familiar to me as well. I got a speeding ticket last year and instead of going to court, I went to a day long traffic school instead. It was basically 12 of us in there asking questions to a traffic cop. Someone asked about the red light turning thing.
 
My driver's ed guy last year told me that if it turns yellow and you can stop safely before the white line, you stop. If not, speed up if necessary to get through the light.
 
Well, if you're out in the intersection making a left, and the light turns red, isn't it your only choice to just go? Unless you've got room to back up, maybe.
 
[quote name='rabbitt']Well, if you're out in the intersection making a left, and the light turns red, isn't it your only choice to just go? Unless you've got room to back up, maybe.[/QUOTE]

That's what I've always thought.
 
[quote name='j1mb07']Ok, yesterday I got a ticket for "running a red light". I was turning left and the cop was waiting to turn right. He claims that he knows it was red because the light he was waiting on and mine are simultaneous and turn red at the same time. Then 5 minutes when I was going past the intersection again the same cop pulled another kid over in the same exact spot. :wall: But anyways thats not why Im posting here. I searched but didnt find anything. Where does a red light take effect? The white line that you stop at or when you actually go under the light? I went passed the white line while it was yellow for sure, couldve turned red as I was under the light idk. I have court on the 10th and might as well try to fight it, got nothing to lose. Anyone have any tips for fighting a traffic violation in court?[/quote]

actually the red light rule starts when the light turns yellow...my wife got the same ticket and she went through a yellow light.
 
I thought it was if you're partly past the light then you're fine but judging from the different answers here I'd just assume it's up to the policeman what running a red light is.
 
[quote name='GrimNecroWizard']I thought it was if you're partly past the light then you're fine but judging from the different answers here I'd just assume it's up to the policeman what running a red light is.[/quote]

Agreed, it will probably come down to Police discretion as to whether it was a safe or dangerous act. Good luck fighting it though, almost everyone has had a light turn red over them while going through an intersection.
 
If you see a yellow, you're supposed to stop.

Anyone who tells you its ok to speed up through a yellow light, do me a favor and send them your ticket when their advice fails you.
 
[quote name='the ender']Don't even bother fighting the ticket bro. Just go to driving class, pay your $80, and go home.[/quote]

Well the cop actually put on the ticket, "Must Appear" so I dont have a choice. He didnt write a fine he just wrote that I have to go to court
 
This is not English.

Subd. 5. Traffic-control signal. (a) Whenever traffic is controlled by traffic-control signals
exhibiting different colored lights, or colored lighted arrows, successively one at a time or in
combination, only the colors Green, Red, and Yellow shall be used, except for special pedestrian
signals carrying a word or legend. The traffic-control signal lights or colored lighted arrows
indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles and pedestrians as follows:
(1) Green indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular green signal may proceed straight through or turn right
or left unless a sign at such place prohibits either turn. But vehicular traffic, including vehicles
turning right or left, shall yield the right-of-way to other vehicles and to pedestrians lawfully
within the intersection or adjacent crosswalk at the time this signal is exhibited.
(ii) Vehicular traffic facing a green arrow signal, shown alone or in combination with another
indication, may cautiously enter the intersection only to make the movement indicated by the
arrow, or other movement as permitted by other indications shown at the same time. Such
vehicular traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk
and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.
(iii) Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6,
pedestrians facing any green signal, except when the sole green signal is a turn arrow, may proceed
across the roadway within any marked or unmarked crosswalk. Every driver of a vehicle shall
yield the right-of-way to such pedestrian, except that the pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to
vehicles lawfully within the intersection at the time that the green signal indication is first shown.
(2) Steady yellow indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular yellow signal is thereby warned that the related green
movement is being terminated or that a red indication will be exhibited immediately thereafter
when vehicular traffic must not enter the intersection, except for the continued movement allowed
by any green arrow indication simultaneously exhibited.
(ii) Pedestrians facing a circular yellow signal, unless otherwise directed by a
pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6, are thereby advised that there is insufficient
time to cross the roadway before a red indication is shown and no pedestrian shall then start
to cross the roadway.
(iii) Vehicular traffic facing a steady yellow arrow signal is thereby warned that the
protected vehicular movement permitted by the corresponding prior green arrow indication
is being terminated.
(3) Steady red indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular red signal alone must stop at a clearly marked stop line
but, if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then
before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until a green indication is shown,
except as follows: (A) the driver of a vehicle stopped as close as practicable at the entrance to the
crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then at the entrance to the intersection
in obedience to a red or stop signal, and with the intention of making a right turn may make the
right turn, after stopping, unless an official sign has been erected prohibiting such movement, but
shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully proceeding as directed by the
signal at that intersection; or (B) the driver of a vehicle on a one-way street intersecting another
one-way street on which traffic moves to the left shall stop in obedience to a red or stop signal
and may then make a left turn into the one-way street, unless an official sign has been erected
prohibiting the movement, but shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully
proceeding as directed by the signal at that intersection.
(ii) Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6,
pedestrians facing a steady red signal alone shall not enter the roadway.
(iii) Vehicular traffic facing a steady red arrow signal, with the intention of making a
movement indicated by the arrow, must stop at a clearly marked stop line but, if none, before
entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering
the intersection and must remain standing until a permissive signal indication permitting the
movement indicated by the red arrow is displayed, except as follows: when an official sign has
been erected permitting a turn on a red arrow signal, the vehicular traffic facing a red arrow
signal indication is permitted to enter the intersection to turn right, or to turn left from a one-way
street into a one-way street on which traffic moves to the left, after stopping, but must yield
the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully proceeding as directed by the signal
at that intersection.

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']state by state, here ya go.

http://public.findlaw.com/traffic-ticket-violation-law/traffic-ticket-a-z/running-red-light-laws.html

remember, google is far more efficiant than asking kids on a forum...[/quote]
 
I'd have to say that a lot of traffic laws are at the cops' discretion. I was exiting off the highway once during a ice storm, and just as I approached the lights off the highway, they turned yellow. Well, a sherrif was right there and decided to follow me and pull me over. He asked me what color the light was, so I responded truthfully: "Umm...yellow."

Being the asshole that he is, he acted as though I was lucky and let me off with "just a warning this time!" I always ask myself: Would he have been happy if I slammed on my brakes and slid into the intersection? (The roads were slick as hell - That's why I got off the highway in the first place.)
 
[quote name='Kayden']This is not English.

Subd. 5. Traffic-control signal. (a) Whenever traffic is controlled by traffic-control signals
exhibiting different colored lights, or colored lighted arrows, successively one at a time or in
combination, only the colors Green, Red, and Yellow shall be used, except for special pedestrian
signals carrying a word or legend. The traffic-control signal lights or colored lighted arrows
indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles and pedestrians as follows:
(1) Green indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular green signal may proceed straight through or turn right
or left unless a sign at such place prohibits either turn. But vehicular traffic, including vehicles
turning right or left, shall yield the right-of-way to other vehicles and to pedestrians lawfully
within the intersection or adjacent crosswalk at the time this signal is exhibited.
(ii) Vehicular traffic facing a green arrow signal, shown alone or in combination with another
indication, may cautiously enter the intersection only to make the movement indicated by the
arrow, or other movement as permitted by other indications shown at the same time. Such
vehicular traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk
and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.
(iii) Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6,
pedestrians facing any green signal, except when the sole green signal is a turn arrow, may proceed
across the roadway within any marked or unmarked crosswalk. Every driver of a vehicle shall
yield the right-of-way to such pedestrian, except that the pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to
vehicles lawfully within the intersection at the time that the green signal indication is first shown.
(2) Steady yellow indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular yellow signal is thereby warned that the related green
movement is being terminated or that a red indication will be exhibited immediately thereafter
when vehicular traffic must not enter the intersection, except for the continued movement allowed
by any green arrow indication simultaneously exhibited.
(ii) Pedestrians facing a circular yellow signal, unless otherwise directed by a
pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6, are thereby advised that there is insufficient
time to cross the roadway before a red indication is shown and no pedestrian shall then start
to cross the roadway.
(iii) Vehicular traffic facing a steady yellow arrow signal is thereby warned that the
protected vehicular movement permitted by the corresponding prior green arrow indication
is being terminated.
(3) Steady red indication:
(i) Vehicular traffic facing a circular red signal alone must stop at a clearly marked stop line
but, if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then
before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until a green indication is shown,
except as follows: (A) the driver of a vehicle stopped as close as practicable at the entrance to the
crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then at the entrance to the intersection
in obedience to a red or stop signal, and with the intention of making a right turn may make the
right turn, after stopping, unless an official sign has been erected prohibiting such movement, but
shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully proceeding as directed by the
signal at that intersection; or (B) the driver of a vehicle on a one-way street intersecting another
one-way street on which traffic moves to the left shall stop in obedience to a red or stop signal
and may then make a left turn into the one-way street, unless an official sign has been erected
prohibiting the movement, but shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully
proceeding as directed by the signal at that intersection.
(ii) Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6,
pedestrians facing a steady red signal alone shall not enter the roadway.
(iii) Vehicular traffic facing a steady red arrow signal, with the intention of making a
movement indicated by the arrow, must stop at a clearly marked stop line but, if none, before
entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering
the intersection and must remain standing until a permissive signal indication permitting the
movement indicated by the red arrow is displayed, except as follows: when an official sign has
been erected permitting a turn on a red arrow signal, the vehicular traffic facing a red arrow
signal indication is permitted to enter the intersection to turn right, or to turn left from a one-way
street into a one-way street on which traffic moves to the left, after stopping, but must yield
the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic lawfully proceeding as directed by the signal
at that intersection.[/quote]


looks pretty straight forward to me. you can read right?
 
[quote name='Pancake Rabbit']Tell them you couldn't see the light over the liquor bottles on your dashboard.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the bright spot in the morning.
 
[quote name='whoknows']I ran a red light once. Got my picture taken. I put it on the fridge.

Ahhh memories[/quote]

I had a guy run a red light while I was driving though the intersection once... Nearly got t-boned. :roll:

And yes, it was green for me because I wasn't the only car going though at the time.
 
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