San Antonio Man Allegedly Pulls Gun On Line-Cutting Black Friday Shopper

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So this is one of the few times I will side with the gun owner but with a caveat. The short version: Guy cuts in line so second guy confronts him. Things get heated to the point where the liner cutter punches the second guy. Second guy with a legal conceal carry permit pulls a gun and everyone scatters. Police clear gun owner and shopping resumes. Two things: 1. People be crazy for deals. 2. Pulling a gun in a crowd even if you have just been punched seems risky. I totally support his right to do it in this situation but man I would be worried some other guy (Texas mind you) gets worried you are going to start shooting and pulls his gun to shoot you. Maybe it is a slim chance but I would rather get punched than shot.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ng-sears-black-friday-shoppers_n_2177293.html
 
From some of the conversations on here, I can only assume that as soon as the first guy pulled his gun, 20 other folks did. Then, there was an old-school western-style shoot-out that left hundreds dead.

What? No one was injured, order was quickly restored and things are back to normal? Crazy!
 
Stupid idea, guy carrying was brandishing a weapon, if not multiple other crimes. Most states say you can use a gun in a self defense setting if you or those you are responsible for have lives in danger. In fact in Oregon, if you shoot a person who is coming after you, screaming things like I'm going to kill you, if you have an accessible exist, and don't use it, then you will likely be arrested and it will be up to a jury to decide your fate. While I think that's ridiculous, pulling a gun because somebody socked you in the face is dangerous and stupid. Person should lose their CHL.

Basically the gun owner's rules are 1) the gun is always loaded (even when it's not) 2) never aim at something you don't intend to shoot 3) Finger isn't on the trigger unless you intend to shoot.

Using a gun to scare people off isn't the point.
 
[quote name='Clak']Gotta love it when the law allows people to do stupid shit.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty liberal with respect to gun laws, but even I think it's insane if the event truly went down like this, and the guy didn't get arrested. Aiming a loaded gun at a crowd of people when you're there all by yourself and in a pissing/punching match with some jerk? No bueno.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']The article said that he aimed it at the ground, and the crowd scattered.[/QUOTE]

Two versions:

"Witnesses told San Antonio News that the man who was punched then pulled out a gun and a pointed it at the line-cutter, but police say the man actually pointed the gun at the ground. The crowd of waiting shoppers scattered when he pulled the gun, and the man who was trying to cut the line ran and hid behind a refrigerator before he ran out of the store, according to witnesses. "

Regardless, aiming a loaded gun at the ground is stupid too, unless you plan on shooting it.
 
[quote name='DurbanBrown']ive always believed that if you pull out your gun, you better shoot it. never pull out a gun to scare someone off.[/QUOTE]

This.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']From some of the conversations on here, I can only assume that as soon as the first guy pulled his gun, 20 other folks did. Then, there was an old-school western-style shoot-out that left hundreds dead.

What? No one was injured, order was quickly restored and things are back to normal? Crazy![/QUOTE]

So you're saying it's okay just to brandish a gun and wave it around when you want to?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']::re-reads what he posted::

No. Didn't say that at all.[/QUOTE]

Well, you didn't really say anything, so I'm looking for clarification.
 
[quote name='soulvengeance']Well, you didn't really say anything, so I'm looking for clarification.[/QUOTE]

He said it's crazy that no one got shot when the dude brandished a gun.

At least that's how I read it.
 
There are folks - on and off of here - who act like any time a gun enters an equation that the situation will suddenly turn into a scene from an old spaghetti western, with forty people pulling various firearms out of their pockets and turning the place into a blood bath.

Just commenting on the fact that this situation proves that to not be the case.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']There are folks - on and off of here - who act like any time a gun enters an equation that the situation will suddenly turn into a scene from an old spaghetti western, with forty people pulling various firearms out of their pockets and turning the place into a blood bath.

Just commenting on the fact that this situation proves that to not be the case.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha. I personally don't have a problem with people owning guns, but this guy is showing why people shouldn't own guns, seems to be a knucklehead.
 
The funny thing is that, in "proving" the case, bob is missing the bigger question of why it isn't the case. In other words, why didn't everyone else pull out der guns and start shootin'.
 
Do tell - this is Texas, which has some pretty lenient gun control laws, some pretty well-known "stand your ground" type laws and is full of rebellious wild-west cowboy self-defense types.

So, why didn't everyone else pull out their guns, Clak?
 
I live in SA and didn't even hear about this.
People who go to black friday are already mentally fucked in the head. Stand in line for a product that will be out of date next year for maybe half off and in the mean time possibly be physically harmed. Sounds good.
 
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