Shenmue...

Moving a new Shenmue to yet another system would not be a good idea, to play all three then you would need three systems. Not a thing most people can afford. Sega should make Shenmue 3 and stick to a plan for once, and X-Box should be it. Plus PS2 probably couldn't handle a graphic update over the second one either, but I could be wrong.

Plus, check your local EB, I got mine new for 9.99 like a year ago.
 
Remakes seem highly unlikely, as it would require a lot of funds that Sega just doesn't (seem) to have, but a straight port might be possible.
 
[quote name='_heretic']Remakes seem highly unlikely, as it would require a lot of funds that Sega just doesn't (seem) to have, but a straight port might be possible.[/quote]

sorry about that....i meant to say a straight port instead of a remake...i often misuse remake for port...i gotta start stopping that

but yeah...the only game that really caught my attention to the dreamcast was shenmue....i never owned a dreamcast and never plan on it....so i know im missing out on something good....i have shenmue 2 for xbox...but have neglected it because i like playing games in order if possible....if not....ill eventually get to it
 
[quote name='bjschre']Moving a new Shenmue to yet another system would not be a good idea, to play all three then you would need three systems. Not a thing most people can afford. Sega should make Shenmue 3 and stick to a plan for once, and X-Box should be it. Plus PS2 probably couldn't handle a graphic update over the second one either, but I could be wrong.

Plus, check your local EB, I got mine new for 9.99 like a year ago.[/quote]

How many people bought the X Box for Shenmue II? None. Because all those fans who actually cared (me included) imported it on the Dreamcast.

The X Box is a poor market for a niche game like Shenmue. If the creator of that series even wants to consider a fourth installment, Ps2 is his only choice.
 
You are aware that Shenmue was intended to be 16 chapters, yes?

It won't turn out that way, but that is what was intended.
 
Right. But my post takes it a little further than that. Basically, what I'm saying is this:

If the third installment is released on a console with less sales potential (the game's not quite FF) it could possibly hinder the consideration for the fourth installment, which would lead to the fifth installment, which would lead to etc finishing of the series.

Ps2 is a safer investment if Yu Suzuki wants to see his baby flourish.
 
i agree that the ps2 is the best decision....and i hope that it does come to the ps2....i just hope that one and two also come to the ps2 as well...as direct ports....and that the ps3 is backwards compatable with the ps2...and the ps4 is backwards compatable with the ps3....and so on
 
considering the first three games did like 7 chapters I could see 2 more games

Chapter 1= shenmue 1
chapter 2 = trip to hong kong
and so on
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']considering the first three games did like 7 chapters I could see 2 more games

Chapter 1= shenmue 1
chapter 2 = trip to hong kong
and so on[/quote]

Okay.. no.

Shenmue was one chapter. That's it.

Shenmue II was condensed, however. Shenmue II includes chapters II, III, and IV. Whether or not it was the entire foruth chapter or not is unsure, but it includes at least half of chapter IV.

As you can see, they kind of sped through there.

Notice the depth in Chapter I that's missing in II-IV? Sure, as a whole, II-IV is an equal experience to I, but what has been sacrificed, we will never know.
 
[quote name='scsg75']Also, it was always supposed to be a 4 game series with 16 chapters between all four games, not a 16 game series (according to IGN here)

"Shenmue II is the second installment of what was originally planned to be four games.....Planned as a sixteen-chapter epic spanning several games"

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/375/375803p1.html[/quote]

That would mean that each game has four chapters, which according to Yu Suzuki and SEGA, is wrong. For example, their DC review mentions nothing of this "four game" thing. I've never heard of it before, either. The only reason II was even condensed is due to the funding lag of Shenmue. Check your book of world records.
 
[quote name='SolinariDotCom']How many people bought the X Box for Shenmue II? None. Because all those fans who actually cared (me included) imported it on the Dreamcast.[/quote]

Bingo.

[quote name='SolinariDotCom']The X Box is a poor market for a niche game like Shenmue. If the creator of that series even wants to consider a fourth installment, Ps2 is his only choice.[/quote]

Wrongo.

Since when is PS2 a better market for niche games? I hardly consider the weekly vomit from the likes of 989 anything worthwhile, but that's the kind of stuff Shenmue would get drowned in on the PS2. We will be lucky if another Shenmue game is ever released or even spoken of again.
 
[quote name='Diiz'][quote name='SolinariDotCom']How many people bought the X Box for Shenmue II? None. Because all those fans who actually cared (me included) imported it on the Dreamcast.[/quote]

Bingo.

[quote name='SolinariDotCom']The X Box is a poor market for a niche game like Shenmue. If the creator of that series even wants to consider a fourth installment, Ps2 is his only choice.[/quote]

Wrongo.

Since when is PS2 a better market for niche games? I hardly consider the weekly vomit from the likes of 989 anything worthwhile, but that's the kind of stuff Shenmue would get drowned in on the PS2. We will be lucky if another Shenmue game is ever released or even spoken of again.[/quote]

I didn't say it was a poor market for "niche games" I said it was a poor market for a "niche game like Shenmue".
 
[quote name='SolinariDotCom']

That would mean that each game has four chapters, which according to Yu Suzuki and SEGA, is wrong. For example, their DC review mentions nothing of this "four game" thing. I've never heard of it before, either. The only reason II was even condensed is due to the funding lag of Shenmue. Check your book of world records.[/quote]

I'm just saying what IGN wrote, not that that's the gospel. They never said it would be 4 chapters a game, just that the original plan for the series was for there to be 16 chapters in all spread out over the course of 4 games.
 
[quote name='bjschre']Plus PS2 probably couldn't handle a graphic update over the second one either, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

You're wrong. There, I said it.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/adventure/shenmue2/review-2.html
[quote name='Shenmue II Review at Gamespot']While Xbox version retains everything seen in the Dreamcast game and tosses in improved lighting, as well as an improved character model for Ryo, the visuals are far less impressive overall.[/quote]

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/375/375803p4.html
[quote name='Shenmue II Review at IGN']Though Microsoft and AM2 made some graphical enhancements, they were still working from a Dreamcast base and that's evident. Side-by-side, the game looks much better than its Dreamcast sibling, but it's still not up to Xbox standards.[/quote]
 
who cares how shenmue looked, it was always more about the experience of playing than how great the gfx are. it looked good enough to convey the story, any further improvements where gravy.
 
I don’t see any reason why Shenmue 3 couldn’t be multi console, it works wonders for EA games in terms of sales.
 
[quote name='NatakuARN']I don’t see any reason why Shenmue 3 couldn’t be multi console, it works wonders for EA games in terms of sales.[/quote]

At least from my standpoint, this is the best idea. If all we really care about is getting to play it or not, then it shouldn't matter too much if it is a port from PS2, right? Just so long as they make it and I play it!
 
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='bjschre']Plus PS2 probably couldn't handle a graphic update over the second one either, but I could be wrong.[/quote]

You're wrong. There, I said it.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/adventure/shenmue2/review-2.html
[quote name='Shenmue II Review at Gamespot']While Xbox version retains everything seen in the Dreamcast game and tosses in improved lighting, as well as an improved character model for Ryo, the visuals are far less impressive overall.[/quote]

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/375/375803p4.html
[quote name='Shenmue II Review at IGN']Though Microsoft and AM2 made some graphical enhancements, they were still working from a Dreamcast base and that's evident. Side-by-side, the game looks much better than its Dreamcast sibling, but it's still not up to Xbox standards.[/quote][/quote]

Just because the game originally ran on the Dreamcast doesn't mean it could run on a Playstation2. Sure the PS2 has more memory, but it can't match the Dreamcast for texture processing, and this is what really limits Shenmue especially. Shenmue has some pretty large textures, and lots of them, and I'm not certain that it would be able to run on a PS2 at the same quality as the Dreamcast.

I saw an article comparing the PS2 and DC, and the author showed pretty convincingly that, though the PS2 was better for a lot of applications, it was pretty clear that the DC was capable of a lot of things the PS2 couldn't hope to do. I couldn't find the original article, but I think it's been reposted here:
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=2807

And here is a direct comparison of the specifications of PS2 and DC :
http://member.telpacific.com.au/trat2422/d-ps.html
 
[quote name='_heretic'][quote name='NatakuARN']I don’t see any reason why Shenmue 3 couldn’t be multi console, it works wonders for EA games in terms of sales.[/quote]

At least from my standpoint, this is the best idea. If all we really care about is getting to play it or not, then it shouldn't matter too much if it is a port from PS2, right? Just so long as they make it and I play it![/quote]

They have enough money to put it on all 3? Sega didn't even have enough cash to publish it on xbox microsoft paid for it. If 3 comes about (probably not but it would be really nice if it did) whoever pays the bill will see the game. Lets face it Sega is a pretty easy to sway to wherever the cash is now that they don't have much.
 
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