Shipping first with lower feedback - when do you have enough to be exempt?

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I was recently dealing with another CAG who has 90-something feedback, and as we began finalizing the deal, he mentioned that if we came to an agreement, he'd ship out as soon as he received my item since I have lower feedback.

Now, I understand the policy of the person with lower feedback shipping first -- it's safer, more secure, and even just a courtesy to the person who has more. But I have 78 feedback, with a few transactions pending that will soon bring me to above 80. Once someone has acquired this much feedback, regardless of whether they're 10 or 20 lower than the person they're dealing with, isn't this kind of an unnecessary practice? I mean, if someone has no feedback or only a few and they're dealing with someone that has 50 or 100, obviously the person with the lower feedback should ship first, but past a certain point isn't it safe to assume that someone with quite a bit of feedback is probably trustworthy?

I'm not trying to 'call out' the CAG in question or anything and if the deal goes through and it's that big of a deal to him then I will certainly just end up shipping first, but I'm curious to see what everybody else thinks about the subject. When does someone have 'enough' feedback to be exempt from shipping first -- 20? 50? 100? I mean, shrike has 458 feedback. The person below him is Scarface7 with 330. If they dealt, technically shrike could ask Scarface to ship first I suppose, but isn't that overkill?

Just looking to see what people think.
 
Since you have 78 feedback no one should EVER expect you to ship first while they wait. That's more than enough to be same time shipping. Some people are really anal about this. IMO, anyone over 20 should be allowed same time shipping (assuming they have no neutrals or negatives).
 
No matter how much feedback they have I almost always wait until I receive with someone with lower feedback. If I've traded with someone before and they specifically mention to ship at the same time, than I'll do it.

I've had people with high feedback take a long time (weeks) to ship but it doesn't bother me when I'm not shipping until I've received. I've also gotten items that didn't work right from people with high feedback, If I had previously shipped this would cause more hassle.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Since you have 78 feedback no one should EVER expect you to ship first while they wait. That's more than enough to be same time shipping. Some people are really anal about this. IMO, anyone over 20 should be allowed same time shipping (assuming they have no neutrals or negatives).[/quote]

Agreed. Someone with 90 requiring someone with 78(100%) to ship first is totally ridiculous. If that were to happen to me, I'd reject their terms and gone to deal with someone else, if they refused to ship at the same time.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Agreed. Someone with 90 requiring someone with 78(100%) to ship first is totally ridiculous. If that were to happen to me, I'd reject their terms and gone to deal with someone else, if they refused to ship at the same time.[/quote]

Agreed, I think that's pushing it considering you have so much feedback. One thing I do before I decide whether the person should send first or not is to see if they have quality feedback. If somebody has 10 perfect feedback, but it was for trading a code they got for free from bb or something, then I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt. :lol:
 
I haven't been around that long, but if I did have a lot of feedback, and the other guy had a lot of feedback, I would not expect us to play such rules. They are meant to protect you from short-term members of the board. Someone with 78 feedback more than likely isn't trying to pull a fast one.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Since you have 78 feedback no one should EVER expect you to ship first while they wait. That's more than enough to be same time shipping. Some people are really anal about this. IMO, anyone over 20 should be allowed same time shipping (assuming they have no neutrals or negatives).[/quote]

I too Agree with neocisco. At some point the ship at same time rule should come into effect. Unless someone has negatives or neutrals. Requiring someone with 78 to ship first is ridiculous since all 78 are positive.
 
BTW, we're going to eventually find out who this person is once you both leave feedback for each other....

:lol:


Dunno if this is fair to that person or not LOL!
 
Yes, but everybody has their own 'rules' for themselves Maybe the guy just wants to play it on the safe side. I mean, sure, I doubt somebody with 80 feedback would ever try to pull a scam, but you never know. The guy was just being cautious. Also, did you ask the guy if he would ship at the same time?
 
Trading terms like that are up to the two traders. That being said, I probably wouldn't complete a trade with someone with those terms.
 
Whats the difference, i mean, so you ship first, what so bad about that, i almost always ship first it doesn't really bother me. if you dont like his terms then dont trade
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']BTW, we're going to eventually find out who this person is once you both leave feedback for each other....
[/quote]
Haha, I'm not 100% sure that the deal is happening anyway.

[quote name='Access_Denied']Yes, but everybody has their own 'rules' for themselves Maybe the guy just wants to play it on the safe side. I mean, sure, I doubt somebody with 80 feedback would ever try to pull a scam, but you never know. The guy was just being cautious. Also, did you ask the guy if he would ship at the same time?[/quote]
Yeah, as I said in the OP, I'm not trying to call him out or anything. I was just using the story as a jumping off point to see what other people think since I've never had this come up before. The shipping issue hasn't come up again since he briefly mentioned it in passing because we're trying to come to an agreement on the trade itself first. Also, I'll link him to this thread and tell him to state his case if he'd like to elaborate.

[quote name='LilPaintballer']Whats the difference, i mean, so you ship first, what so bad about that, i almost always ship first it doesn't really bother me. if you dont like his terms then dont trade[/quote]
Again, as I said in the OP, if it's that important to him I'm fine with shipping first. What's 'so bad about it' is that the extra week it will take to wait for my stuff to get to him and then his stuff to get to me afterwards just seems unnecessary. It just struck me as an odd request so I wanted to see if I was in the minority or if he was, but I'm not trying to crucify the guy or anything. He's within his rights to ask.
 
I cant believe someone would even do that... most of the time I ship at the same time even with a little feedback, as long as it is totally positive. Just because someone has an 8 feedback for example doesnt mean they are going to screw you over. That person may just not do a lot of trading, doesnt say anything about their character. But the trader in question in this thread, I wouldnt trade unless it was the same time, id take it as an insult.
 
If the deal is a straight up trade, a game for a game or something like that, then I'll ship the same time. But, if it's a deal where someone is paying me for something off my TL, then I'll wait till the payment comes in, pay for the shipping costs with that, and ship out typically the same day I receive payment.

Is that considered wrong by anyone here? I'm curious, since I know I had a couple of deals fall through because I wouldn't ship out the same day they sent payment via snail mail.

Oh and bigdaddybruce, I've seen at least a few who were banned because of trading violations(like not paying or not shipping) and there were at least a few who had all positive feedback up till when they flaked and didn't ship. So, all positive feedback doesn't exactly mean that someone won't just some day snap and keep your money or game and not sending anything in return.
 
I dunno, just cause you have a lot of feedback doesn't mean your not a dochebag. For example I was once trading with someone who like 27 feedback and I was I dunno like 7. We ended up sending together or so I thought, but I sent my stuff and didn't hear from the guy for like a month. I got my stuff eventually, but he took his sweet time with it. He had all perfects, and good comments, but it wasn't his first time doing it. I had to ask other cags to hear the full story.
 
I usually say 15+ is okay for mutual sending...by then, i think it's fair game. The only thing stopping this for me is if they have a neutral/negative feedback...then, i have them send first, no questions

In this instance 78 vs 90...that's pretty messed up that these terms are still in effect
 
I think you all can ship first to me. :lol:

If it's someone I've dealt with previously without any issue, I change to same-time shipment, regardless of feedback. Though, if they're trying to drag their ass on the other side of the deal, then they're going to get some PM's from me about it, as well as emails.

If it's someone who's made it up to 10+ feedback, then I tend to lean that way. For someone with 78 feedback, yeah, I think we're doing same-time shipment. I don't think you're going to brainfart on that one after that many deals done.

Someone sticking tightly to the "lower feedback ships first" stance might find a few people getting irked at them when they're well beyond 10+ deals done. It's also everyone decision to stick 100% to the rules like that, though common sense has to prevail somewhere along the way.
 
I don't have a huge problem shipping at the same time when the person i'm trading with is in the 40's and up. While kinda amusing you still got asked that OP just shrug it off, either you want the item bad enough or you don't, it would realistically only be a delay of a week and a half or so anyway.
 
Technically it's gotta be lower FB ships first unless the higher FB guy is okay with waiving it. But in practice your specific situation would be a same time deal for nearly any trader I'd think.

Is this a high dollar value trade?
 
I don't know I have officially 37 (40 or so with multi trades with the same users) but as long as im here I do not have any issues trading first if the person has higher feedback.

What is irritating is when the new people that have 3 months or so as a member and like 6 feedback try to act like they deserve same time shipping or the other party to ship first lol.
 
Agreed with some here. Its always up to the higher feedback person to what they want but you dont have to agree with their rules.

As close in fb as you two are, easily sametime shipping.

Also, as stated, if its a money thing, 99.9999999999% of the time, money is paid then item is shipped.

Another agreement with Derrick1979, its funny seeing this noob low fb people want samtime s/h etc etc and want to use ebay or other sites as a reference but when the roles are reversed, they want it the other way around.
 
[quote name='chakan']Trading terms like that are up to the two traders. That being said, I probably wouldn't complete a trade with someone with those terms.[/quote]

I agree with this sentiment.

I don't care about shipping priority so I'd probably go ahead with the deal anyway, I just find it annoying when I've worked a deal, even compromised some, and the other guy has no business sense.

I could get a game new for a certain price shipped on amazon, but this guy sent me an email saying he was a student, blah, blah, and needed to sell some games. I offered him one dollar more then the total Amazon price to hook him up a little, and told him so, and he accused me of trying to lowball him.

So I bought it off Amazon. Still annoying though.
 
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