Amazon has sold joycons under the gametrust name before. The Snes Classic from Amazon last night was listed in the console category, too. It wasn't listed in books or some other random category.
What if the gametrust was the real order page and the other one was a dupe?Amazon has sold joycons under the gametrust name before. The Snes Classic from Amazon last night was listed in the console category, too. It wasn't listed in books or some other random category.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT8RT5I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Digital-Downloads-GameTrust-Joy-Con-Neon/dp/B01MT8USZN/
Could't agree more. Resellers are just a link in the chain with a product like this. I wouldnt even dare venture a guess how many SNES classic nintendo manufactures but based on the fact that last years can still fetch double MSRP on ebay; and the auctions that ebay hasnt pulled yet since its still before their policy to list have hit $225 with ease on the SNES Mini and this is 5-6 weeks before it even releases. I would imagine like last year we will see an avg price of 250-300 in the reseller market come Late oct/nov when parents start xmas shopping. Just happy I didnt miss out like I did last year I still refuse to pay 150+ for a Mini NES. It is what it is though I know if I ever want one thats the secondary market price since the secondary market is the only avenue to still buy one of them. Same will be true of this console and the Mini 64 rumored for next season will probably follow suit.
Oh, 250-300 is likely on the low side for this product. The NES Classic was fetching $250 at it's peak, and as an inferior product (in virtually every way). I think prices jumped to near $300 when the discontinuation was announced/evident, and that was after the holiday panic.
That wouldn't work because the scalpers would still end up with all of the units using their bots...
i hate people like that. no lie. if i was shady like that, why flaunt it. shows you how exciting their life is if they have to show off how many consoles they purchased.
Order details say, "Sold by: Amazon.com LLC".
That dude is hopefully doing some ferrari racer photoshopping. I personally know a CAG who was banned from bestbuy.com for ordering too many Zelda 3ds XL's a long while back. He's tried a million different ways to get online orders through - different mac address, different ip address, different shipping address, different billing address, different credit cards, different gift cards, different names, etc. He hasn't had any luck. I think if you did 3 or less on BB.com I wouldn't worry. For anyone who ordered more than a few, I would worry a little.
It's frustrating. They can't all be accidents. It feels like trolling. Although it was funny when I asked my mom to read the email alert for me full of expletives a couple hours ago while I was on the highway driving her home from the airport.Freaking CAG's who keep bumping the alert thread for no reason other than to whine/chime in with some stupid comment...
One thing you do not factor in - the increased demand due to rarity. How many people decided they have to get it because they cannot sit around and think about it and talk themselves out of needing it. How many people go "wow this is the hot product so I NEED it"? You don't get a chance to mull it over with it in your cart.
Quite a few actually have no response from Best Buy though
Yes...and no. Artificial scarcity is certainly a possible sales tactic (that Nintendo has a history of using). I have no doubt that some percent of purchases were made impulsively. However, most of the audience that was affected today are the gamers and those in-tune to gaming trends and news. It's the average consumer that is more likely to jump on the hype train when/if they are made aware of it.
All of your points are valid.
It sounds like the resellers have their wires crossed with the Xbox One S maybe? You're right that doesn't sound like someone fanatical enough to call a store about it a week before launch.
Lol you cant be trusted
Sorry, I don't believe your Amazon preorder is real.
Night Trap was not nearly as stressful, I easily got a copy during the 10 AM run and had more trouble with WonderBoy. The nice thing about LRG is that you know exactly what time you can order the product. The SNES was a guessing game yesterday and in many cases sheer luck of being awake and happening to check at the right time. I only got one pre-ordered because I have a friend who manages a Gamestop store that helped me out while I was at work like most people and his store was allotted a whopping 7 systems.This is turning out to be like Limited Run Games 2 weeks ago for night trap. Except for stressing out at only two times, it's all day...fun times
It's not double demand though. The same number of systems end up in the same number of consumers' hands with an added step in the form of resellers.
That's exactly my point. Resellers do not add to the demand, they defer it. A reseller without an audience willing to buy it at resale value is most likely going to return it. Most likely, the reseller would drive down the price to the point where demand kicks in and the product sells (any profit is afterall better than no profit, from their perspective). Either way, the entire demand chain is still limited by the total number of consumers willing to make a 'final' purchase of the item. Depending on where this level stabilizes, relative to the supply chain from Nintendo, will dictate the final after-market price.
I would say your just taking a guess that their will be "more" then the NES Classic because what is more defined by 1,000 more 10,000 more. Your also just speculating due to lack of web issues for Walmart that they didnt sell their allotment; these are all just guesses. However one thing that is for sure is the market for this product was created last year by the Mini NES Craze AND add that to the Nintendo Audience on a product like this spans so many age groups; demand is not going to waiver by alot; and 2nd Market Value will stay steady as the Mini NES has shown the ability to remain 2x over MSRP even a year later.
Play Asia hasnt opened up yet; not sure if B&H is gonna do pre orders. Target seems to still be flickering maybe cancelattions as folks get some yesterday later via gamestop instead. Mini NES sold 2.3 million world wide I woudl venture a guess that Nintendo isnt going to be able to produce much more then that on the SNES.
Regardless of what happened the other night with that "alternate" Amazon listing, I'm willing to bet that Amazon will have a pre-order session on the main Classic SNES page
No, they double it. Once for the reseller, again for the person who buys it from them. I am saying demand, you are saying sales. The reseller and the their eventual buyer both want the item from the retailer, which is twice the demand (but for different reasons). The reseller defers the sale.
I wouldn't say that. Nintendo has made it very clear that they are going to manufacture more SNES Classics than they did the NES. I still don't believe they will make enough to meet the high demand, but I do believe the chances of getting one at retail price if you want it will be much higher than the NES Classic. I've got one locked down now and will try to get my hands on a couple of more, I'd like to give my brother one for his birthday in November. I'm also going to go after the Japanese release as well, which I didn't do with the Famicom Classic.
2.3 Million in 4 months is going to be hard to top. Especially based on yesterday I believe the demand is even higher due to last years craze,.
Your definition of demand is myopic and short-sighted. A reseller can certainly contribute to the hype and INITIAL interest in a product. However, without a buyer, a reseller is not going to sit on their product and will return it to vendors. The key here is that a reseller has no interest in actually keeping the product for their own use, which is what will factor into the ultimate demand for a product. Demand is determined by the consumers that permanently remove it from the market, reducing the total supply in retail channels.
No, the demand does not necessarily approach a limit of zero, especially when considering the secondary (non-MSRP) market. The demand is dynamic and will tend to stabilize (normalize) in relation to the current price point. Increased interest in a product will increase demand...which will tend to raise the after-market price for a product, thereby decreasing the demand. This holistic process tends to, over time, render demand constant (it's the price point that fluctuates in relation to supply).
I have always found economics to be a very logical discipline, greatly complimented by an understanding of models and dynamic response. It's become something akin to a hobby in the past decade, though slightly more beneficial to (1) feed my interests as a gamer and (2) assist in our household financial arena.
It seemed more difficult for me to get a SNES pre-order than it was for me to get a Neon Nintendo Switch pre-order.
