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If the law didn't require you to have a liquor license, then this guy wouldn't have done anything in the first place. That's the real issue here. You shouldn't have to get permission to serve alcohol.
Some crazy guy almost shot up the superbowl
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[quote name='prmononoke']If the law didn't require you to have a liquor license, then this guy wouldn't have done anything in the first place. That's the real issue here. You shouldn't have to get permission to serve alcohol.[/quote]
Wow
or maybe if they banned they sale of guns, this wouldnt have happended
Wow
or maybe if they banned they sale of guns, this wouldnt have happended
Nixon's Revenge
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[quote name='omgu8myrice']Wow
or maybe if they banned they sale of guns, this wouldnt have happended[/quote]
Yup, just like in Washington DC where you can't own a gun. Totally safe city.
Totally.
or maybe if they banned they sale of guns, this wouldnt have happended[/quote]
Yup, just like in Washington DC where you can't own a gun. Totally safe city.
Totally.
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Nixon's Revenge;3923617]Yup said:
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[quote name='omgu8myrice']because its so hard to drive somewhere else and buy one, right?[/quote]
Yea or they can buy them right there in the city illegally.
Once you make them illegal, the only people who deal them are criminals. Just like in:
Alcohol Prohibition
Drug prohibition/ War on Drugs.
Yea or they can buy them right there in the city illegally.
Once you make them illegal, the only people who deal them are criminals. Just like in:
Alcohol Prohibition
Drug prohibition/ War on Drugs.
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Nixon's Revenge;3923641 said:
okay, still makes it harder to obtain one. New york's crime rate has dropped like crazy due to tougher restrictions on guns
[quote name='mykevermin']Devil May Get 
in' Hammered?[/quote]
Now I dig the DMC series, don't get me wrong. Dante is cool and all, BUT...
Nah, that would be a gay bar down the hill on Santa Monica Blvd. in WeHo. NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT LIFESTYLE OR THOSE PLACES, and I'm sure they make a fortune. I mean, seriously, with Dante as the mascot? Not exactly reeking of masculinity. It would be like having Cloud or Sephiroth from FFVII as your mascot/theme. Dante's the Ryan Seacrest of gaming. Maybe that could fly in Tokyo, but it would make it a poofer bar here in the states, or a metrosexual/hipster bar at best.
But you need something DRUNK-ulicious to pull in the big money celeb addicts.
Maybe a license from Nintendo for Donkey Kong, and call the place Donkey Kong's Donkey Punch Island Escape.
in' Hammered?[/quote]Now I dig the DMC series, don't get me wrong. Dante is cool and all, BUT...
Nah, that would be a gay bar down the hill on Santa Monica Blvd. in WeHo. NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT LIFESTYLE OR THOSE PLACES, and I'm sure they make a fortune. I mean, seriously, with Dante as the mascot? Not exactly reeking of masculinity. It would be like having Cloud or Sephiroth from FFVII as your mascot/theme. Dante's the Ryan Seacrest of gaming. Maybe that could fly in Tokyo, but it would make it a poofer bar here in the states, or a metrosexual/hipster bar at best.
But you need something DRUNK-ulicious to pull in the big money celeb addicts.
Maybe a license from Nintendo for Donkey Kong, and call the place Donkey Kong's Donkey Punch Island Escape.
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[quote name='omgu8myrice']okay, still makes it harder to obtain one. New york's crime rate has dropped like crazy due to tougher restrictions on guns[/quote]
See, I can totally agree with enforcing stricter rules on guns obtained illegally with sentences more severe on illegal-dealers and the like.
What I can't understand is the desire to take weapons from qualified citizens. The percentage of crazy ass people who legally obtain weapons to do harm is minuscule comparatively to the total of guns legally purchased.
See, I can totally agree with enforcing stricter rules on guns obtained illegally with sentences more severe on illegal-dealers and the like.
What I can't understand is the desire to take weapons from qualified citizens. The percentage of crazy ass people who legally obtain weapons to do harm is minuscule comparatively to the total of guns legally purchased.
[quote name='omgu8myrice']okay, still makes it harder to obtain one. New york's crime rate has dropped like crazy due to tougher restrictions on guns[/quote]
Not completely true. It's dropped mainly because the police force was stepped up under Guliani and now Bloomberg by being given a green light to step hard on criminals, thugs, and the ghetto types. They basically made it very difficult for violent criminals to do business in NY.
There's been basically a zero tolerance policy on homeless and ghetto people, going hand in hand with gentrification and the cost of living explosion - the undesirables have either been forced out of Manhattan into the outer burroughs, upstate, or out of state all together, or put in Riker's.
Not completely true. It's dropped mainly because the police force was stepped up under Guliani and now Bloomberg by being given a green light to step hard on criminals, thugs, and the ghetto types. They basically made it very difficult for violent criminals to do business in NY.
There's been basically a zero tolerance policy on homeless and ghetto people, going hand in hand with gentrification and the cost of living explosion - the undesirables have either been forced out of Manhattan into the outer burroughs, upstate, or out of state all together, or put in Riker's.
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[quote name='trq']Actually, it has a pretty specific definition, but the AR doesn't fit it, I think. You've used one, so you'd have to tell me -- the civilian model doesn't have selective fire, right?[/quote]
The AR is classified as an assault because it has:
Pistol Grip
Detachable Mags
Semi-Automatic
(basically anything that isn't handled like a traditional rifle would be classified as an "assault weapon" and most weapons ever used as a primary gun of wartime like the SKS even though it's a traditional style rifle.)
A good example of gun control was a senator back in the late 80's that recited every gun mentioned in "Terminator" as assault weapons needing to be banned including the Phase Plasma Rifle. This is why the most epic of shotguns, the SPAS-12, is no longer being made.
[quote name='trq'] Well ... I don't know that "effective as a hunting weapon" is a particularly viable category for justifying the legality of a weapon. A .50 cal would be great for hunting, too, but that's really not what it's for.[/quote]
50 BMG isn't good at hunting. Case in point; a deer was shot with a 50 BMG through the neck with an exit wound pretty much out it's ass. The shock wave of the bullet traveling through the deer completely liquefied it's organs and caused shock to all the meat of the animal (when a bullet hits an animal all the meat around the entry point suffers damage because of the sheer velocities). It did a hell of a job cleaning it though. Lift the deer up and everything poured out the exit wound (a few inches in diameter).
The AR-15 uses a standard .223 Remington which is excellent for anything from rabbit to deer to boar to coyote (general North American small-medium game and varmints).
The AR is classified as an assault because it has:
Pistol Grip
Detachable Mags
Semi-Automatic
(basically anything that isn't handled like a traditional rifle would be classified as an "assault weapon" and most weapons ever used as a primary gun of wartime like the SKS even though it's a traditional style rifle.)
A good example of gun control was a senator back in the late 80's that recited every gun mentioned in "Terminator" as assault weapons needing to be banned including the Phase Plasma Rifle. This is why the most epic of shotguns, the SPAS-12, is no longer being made.
[quote name='trq'] Well ... I don't know that "effective as a hunting weapon" is a particularly viable category for justifying the legality of a weapon. A .50 cal would be great for hunting, too, but that's really not what it's for.[/quote]
50 BMG isn't good at hunting. Case in point; a deer was shot with a 50 BMG through the neck with an exit wound pretty much out it's ass. The shock wave of the bullet traveling through the deer completely liquefied it's organs and caused shock to all the meat of the animal (when a bullet hits an animal all the meat around the entry point suffers damage because of the sheer velocities). It did a hell of a job cleaning it though. Lift the deer up and everything poured out the exit wound (a few inches in diameter).
The AR-15 uses a standard .223 Remington which is excellent for anything from rabbit to deer to boar to coyote (general North American small-medium game and varmints).
[quote name='prmononoke']If the law didn't require you to have a liquor license, then this guy wouldn't have done anything in the first place. That's the real issue here. You shouldn't have to get permission to serve alcohol.[/QUOTE]
That is something I can agree with.
That is something I can agree with.
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So, we are debating gun laws because a bunch of people didn't get shot. Seems logical.
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[quote name='yukine']HA! And people say you're a bit slow. You catch on quick, buddy boy. 
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Oh another clever quip. Why not go back and just admit you made yet another dumbass post? Save us a lot of time.
[/quote]Oh another clever quip. Why not go back and just admit you made yet another dumbass post? Save us a lot of time.
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[quote name='camoor']I just looked it up - the AR-15 specs sound pretty hardcore and it's hard for me to believe anyone would use it for hunting.[/quote]Of course not, no sane person anyway. Though I'm sure there's some guy with a Rambo complex who would love to go blowing away deer with the civilian equivalent of an M-16.
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[quote name='JolietJake']Of course not, no sane person anyway. Though I'm sure there's some guy with a Rambo complex who would love to go blowing away deer with the civilian equivalent of an M-16.[/quote]
Dude; have you ever shot an AR-15? Ever shot a 30-06? The 30-06 was developed as a machine gun round. Not a hand held machine gun like the M-16 but a fully mounted tripod machine gun (belt fed). That's a more popular deer hunting round. Yet you think an AR-15 is considered a "Rambo Complex". Please. There's nothing wrong with using a battle rifle, designed for the purpose of killing, to be used to hunt an animal. After all hunting is killing.
Do your homework before you speak.
Dude; have you ever shot an AR-15? Ever shot a 30-06? The 30-06 was developed as a machine gun round. Not a hand held machine gun like the M-16 but a fully mounted tripod machine gun (belt fed). That's a more popular deer hunting round. Yet you think an AR-15 is considered a "Rambo Complex". Please. There's nothing wrong with using a battle rifle, designed for the purpose of killing, to be used to hunt an animal. After all hunting is killing.
Do your homework before you speak.
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This guy got any kids registered on GameFAQs?
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[quote name='Strell']Had to search around a bit, but finally found one:
Spiky red-dyed hair, goggles, pale skin...
Dude could be Nny if he changed it to black.[/quote]
He looks like the lead singer from Static-X
Spiky red-dyed hair, goggles, pale skin...
Dude could be Nny if he changed it to black.[/quote]
He looks like the lead singer from Static-X
[quote name='becuzimbrown']i think Chris Rock said it best:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=juLQBeZXmPU[/QUOTE]
This post is full of win!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=juLQBeZXmPU[/QUOTE]
This post is full of win!
JolietJake
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[quote name='Magehart']Dude; have you ever shot an AR-15? Ever shot a 30-06? The 30-06 was developed as a machine gun round. Not a hand held machine gun like the M-16 but a fully mounted tripod machine gun (belt fed). That's a more popular deer hunting round. Yet you think an AR-15 is considered a "Rambo Complex". Please. There's nothing wrong with using a battle rifle, designed for the purpose of killing, to be used to hunt an animal. After all hunting is killing.
Do your homework before you speak.[/quote]
I never said using a round designed for a machine gun wasn't crazy either. I did however say that using a semi auto rifle for hunting is crazy. Where the hell is the skill in that?
Besides, if you can' take an animal in one shot, you just suck at hunting.
Do your homework before you speak.[/quote]
I never said using a round designed for a machine gun wasn't crazy either. I did however say that using a semi auto rifle for hunting is crazy. Where the hell is the skill in that?
Besides, if you can' take an animal in one shot, you just suck at hunting.
level1online
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It seems the Ministry of Homeland Security will use whatever excuse to blur the lines between local police and the military, thus finally laying to rest the idea put forth in the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.
“While the Department of Homeland Security says there are no specific terror threats regarding Super Bowl XLII, security is being taken seriously at the game, where the New England Patriots will face-off with the New York Giants,” writes George Hulme for Information Week. “The game has been designated a level one security event by the Department of Homeland Security. That authorizes the use of federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Secret Service to help local and state law enforcement keep the event safe.”
As Los Angeles Business notes, there will be “800 officers from numerous agencies” on hand, just in case Osama makes an appearance.
In addition to feds and soldiers crawling over the event in Arizona, there is “a no fly zone, a secure perimeter, and spectators should expect to be vetted before getting through. And there’s a list of prohibited items ranging from beach balls to weapons. Fans can also expect scads of security cameras and aircraft flying above surveying the area, while trained dogs will be on the lookout for explosives.” In other words, the game will provide a perfect excuse to remind the commoners they live in a police state.
As the cops in Mexico and Canada will merge soon enough, that is if our rulers have their way with the NAU, it makes sense “Vancouver 2010 security police are at the Super Bowl in Phoenix,” as The Province explains, “embedded” with the above melange, studying “surveillance and security” and likely comparing notes.
article continues: http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1879
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My thoughts:
If anyone is familiar with how 9/11 & 7/7 really went down, chances are the feds were probably running a drill of the exact same thing... at the exact same time...
Now, now kids, this gets a little sophisticated, so I'll dumb it down. If the feds are running a drill while an attack of the very same nature is happening, then it becomes difficult to differentiate between what is reality, and what is fake. Confused about what to do, it's easy for the commanders to send out stand down orders until things are sorted out.... mmmmmkay???
Then... after the shit hits the fan, people wonder how a "lone nut" could pull off so many kills amongst so much security. Like V-tech. "Incompetence" is usually the blame, then followed by an outcry for more federal funding and tighter restrictions on civil liberties.
problem... reaction... solution...
now eat a cheeseburger, grab a beer, and go back to your male soap opera...
Kurt Nimmo
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February 3, 2008
It seems the Ministry of Homeland Security will use whatever excuse to blur the lines between local police and the military, thus finally laying to rest the idea put forth in the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.
“While the Department of Homeland Security says there are no specific terror threats regarding Super Bowl XLII, security is being taken seriously at the game, where the New England Patriots will face-off with the New York Giants,” writes George Hulme for Information Week. “The game has been designated a level one security event by the Department of Homeland Security. That authorizes the use of federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Secret Service to help local and state law enforcement keep the event safe.”
As Los Angeles Business notes, there will be “800 officers from numerous agencies” on hand, just in case Osama makes an appearance.
In addition to feds and soldiers crawling over the event in Arizona, there is “a no fly zone, a secure perimeter, and spectators should expect to be vetted before getting through. And there’s a list of prohibited items ranging from beach balls to weapons. Fans can also expect scads of security cameras and aircraft flying above surveying the area, while trained dogs will be on the lookout for explosives.” In other words, the game will provide a perfect excuse to remind the commoners they live in a police state.
But if you’re not going to the game, and you happen to notice a strange metallic object roaming around the stadium or parking lot while you’re watching from home, don’t worry, it’s just probably an HD-1.
According to Northrop Grumman Corp., the company will be providing support for robots produced by its subsidiary, Remotec, Inc. “We’re here to support the event and hopefully go unnoticed by fans. Our job isn’t to be a disruption but to keep danger at a distance,” said Mack Barber, president of Remotec, an operating unit of Northrop Grumman’s Mission Systems sector, said in a release.
Northrop Grumman manufactures a variety of hazardous duty robots, all dubbed with Sci-Fi sounding names: The HD-1, F6A, Mark V-A1, Mini-Andros II, and the Wolverine. They’re designed to deal with an array of nasty materials and explosives.
They’ll be roaming a two-square mile zone around the stadium.
Of course, only blind fans will not notice this hunk of metal and circuit boards, and certainly folks within the “two-square mile zone around the stadium” will notice. Chertoff and the Ministry want us to notice and take note: in order to stop al-Qaeda, we need this sort of technology roaming the streets, along with soldiers no doubt in full battle gear and FBI and BATF agents in their distinctive windbreakers, armed to the teeth. It’s all for your safety, never mind there is no such thing as al-Qaeda, or rather there only is when a draconian bill or two needs to pass the hurdle in Congress, admittedly a rather short hurdle.According to Northrop Grumman Corp., the company will be providing support for robots produced by its subsidiary, Remotec, Inc. “We’re here to support the event and hopefully go unnoticed by fans. Our job isn’t to be a disruption but to keep danger at a distance,” said Mack Barber, president of Remotec, an operating unit of Northrop Grumman’s Mission Systems sector, said in a release.
Northrop Grumman manufactures a variety of hazardous duty robots, all dubbed with Sci-Fi sounding names: The HD-1, F6A, Mark V-A1, Mini-Andros II, and the Wolverine. They’re designed to deal with an array of nasty materials and explosives.
They’ll be roaming a two-square mile zone around the stadium.
As the cops in Mexico and Canada will merge soon enough, that is if our rulers have their way with the NAU, it makes sense “Vancouver 2010 security police are at the Super Bowl in Phoenix,” as The Province explains, “embedded” with the above melange, studying “surveillance and security” and likely comparing notes.
article continues: http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1879
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My thoughts:
If anyone is familiar with how 9/11 & 7/7 really went down, chances are the feds were probably running a drill of the exact same thing... at the exact same time...
Now, now kids, this gets a little sophisticated, so I'll dumb it down. If the feds are running a drill while an attack of the very same nature is happening, then it becomes difficult to differentiate between what is reality, and what is fake. Confused about what to do, it's easy for the commanders to send out stand down orders until things are sorted out.... mmmmmkay???
Then... after the shit hits the fan, people wonder how a "lone nut" could pull off so many kills amongst so much security. Like V-tech. "Incompetence" is usually the blame, then followed by an outcry for more federal funding and tighter restrictions on civil liberties.
problem... reaction... solution...
now eat a cheeseburger, grab a beer, and go back to your male soap opera...
[quote name='Simon D I']Hahahahah! Man, this guy looks like one of the club dudes you would run in to in SHADOWRUN for the SNES....
...I know, an obscure observation...
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Oh my god.
Had I not thought of Jhonen Vasquez, this is definitely the best way to describe the dude.
He'd be a decker, no doubt.
Edit: Actually, he looks like one of the punks you'd run into at the junkyard, or whatever it was called. With all the rusted cars and the gladiator arena.
...I know, an obscure observation...
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Oh my god.
Had I not thought of Jhonen Vasquez, this is definitely the best way to describe the dude.
He'd be a decker, no doubt.
Edit: Actually, he looks like one of the punks you'd run into at the junkyard, or whatever it was called. With all the rusted cars and the gladiator arena.
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