Steam Supreme Commander 2 66% off Weekend Deal
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HisDivineShadow
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Keep 'em coming! I think this sounds like an interesting diversion for $5. Any reason it's NOT worth $5?
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This game dropped in price pretty fast. Too bad I am not into RTSs
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wow ppl who preordered it (my friends) must be pissed. I got it during the summer sale for 7.50 but wondering if dlc is worth it....
[quote name='henrylin22']wow ppl who preordered it (my friends) must be pissed. I got it during the summer sale for 7.50 but wondering if dlc is worth it....[/QUOTE]
From what I can tell, its a big hit if you do lots of online battles (or even vs bots). The new unit tech upgrades look neat also. For me, a few bucks is cheap enough to the point I wouldnt be pissed if it turns out to be bad.
From what I can tell, its a big hit if you do lots of online battles (or even vs bots). The new unit tech upgrades look neat also. For me, a few bucks is cheap enough to the point I wouldnt be pissed if it turns out to be bad.
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bought the game for xbox 360. I don't know if i should get this for pc with all the dlc?
[quote name='Mikerrrr']From what I've heard, SC2 has some of the best AI in recent years, making for some pretty intense comp stomp matches.[/QUOTE]
It does. If comp stomps or skirmishes are your thing then the SC2 AI should put up a good fight. It'll even go so far as to probe your defenses and try to attack weak points instead of always attack-moving toward your base. Note that the campaign doesn't use the excellent AI though, it uses generic RTS campaign AI of "Build blob of units, attack-move player's base, repeat". The demo is of the campaign so it gives a poor impression.
Picked up the DLC, worth $3 if you end up liking the game. New maps and new units for each race. You're not exactly lacking without it, but it's cheap for not quite an expansion's worth of new crap for skirmishes.
It does. If comp stomps or skirmishes are your thing then the SC2 AI should put up a good fight. It'll even go so far as to probe your defenses and try to attack weak points instead of always attack-moving toward your base. Note that the campaign doesn't use the excellent AI though, it uses generic RTS campaign AI of "Build blob of units, attack-move player's base, repeat". The demo is of the campaign so it gives a poor impression.
Picked up the DLC, worth $3 if you end up liking the game. New maps and new units for each race. You're not exactly lacking without it, but it's cheap for not quite an expansion's worth of new crap for skirmishes.
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From what I have read so far, makes me want to go get the Xbox 360 version from Gamestop. Comp stomp was a favorite game of mine during skirmishes with Total Annihilation a long time ago.
[quote name='KaOTiK']Not worth it even at this price. The game is pure trash.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how you can say that. SC2 is essentially the second best new RTS on the market right now, next to the other SC2 (Starcraft 2 lol).
It's a pretty good game, tho I have Starcraft 2 so I'm a little hesitant still. I do love me some Starcraft...
I don't know how you can say that. SC2 is essentially the second best new RTS on the market right now, next to the other SC2 (Starcraft 2 lol).
It's a pretty good game, tho I have Starcraft 2 so I'm a little hesitant still. I do love me some Starcraft...
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I'm going to sound like a stupid fanboy, but after playing Starcraft 2, I really don't see the point to playing other RTS's. Granted, this is a heck-of-a-lot cheaper than Starcraft 2.
[quote name='TravistyOJ']I'm going to sound like a stupid fanboy, but after playing Starcraft 2, I really don't see the point to playing other RTS's. Granted, this is a heck-of-a-lot cheaper than Starcraft 2.[/QUOTE]
They are different styles of RTS. SupCom is about massive battles and piling out units over and over. Starcraft 2 is of a smaller scale and has closer unit management, mostly because they turn into a jiggling mess that doesn't shoot because they are trying to rearrange themselves. I wouldn't say I am a master of either of them but that is the feel I got from each, personally preferring Starcraft 2.
I feel that SupCom has much better AI battles on a random map but don't get the game for the single player campaign, I found it quite horrible compared to Starcraft (or most RTS campaigns).
They are different styles of RTS. SupCom is about massive battles and piling out units over and over. Starcraft 2 is of a smaller scale and has closer unit management, mostly because they turn into a jiggling mess that doesn't shoot because they are trying to rearrange themselves. I wouldn't say I am a master of either of them but that is the feel I got from each, personally preferring Starcraft 2.
I feel that SupCom has much better AI battles on a random map but don't get the game for the single player campaign, I found it quite horrible compared to Starcraft (or most RTS campaigns).
i've seen the retail boxed version go for $9.99 before. i want to get the disc for that price whenever i see it on sale (save download time) and activate it on steam.
can i just buy the dlc w/o the game on steam so when i do get it, it will work?
what happens if i buy the game now off steam, and i get the disc later and activate that one? will it be considered an extra copy and giftable?
can i just buy the dlc w/o the game on steam so when i do get it, it will work?
what happens if i buy the game now off steam, and i get the disc later and activate that one? will it be considered an extra copy and giftable?
[quote name='Wet Ninja']If I liked Total Annihilation and Total Annihilation: Kingdoms, I'll like this, right?[/QUOTE]
Probably so. It'll feel very comfortable, at least. You'd probably like SupCom and SupCom:FA a little more as it's closer to TA. SupCom2 deviates a bit with its Tech Tree
SupCom 2 took a beating from the fans early on because it just didn't stack up to the original/FA and because there is no SDK. To its credit, GPG really patched the hell out of SupCom 2 and the DLC adds a bunch of (sorely needed) additional maps and units. It's starting to feel a lot better.
And yes, the AI is quite respectable now so you'll enjoy it online and off. For the price, it's quite a lot of game.
Probably so. It'll feel very comfortable, at least. You'd probably like SupCom and SupCom:FA a little more as it's closer to TA. SupCom2 deviates a bit with its Tech Tree
SupCom 2 took a beating from the fans early on because it just didn't stack up to the original/FA and because there is no SDK. To its credit, GPG really patched the hell out of SupCom 2 and the DLC adds a bunch of (sorely needed) additional maps and units. It's starting to feel a lot better.
And yes, the AI is quite respectable now so you'll enjoy it online and off. For the price, it's quite a lot of game.
[quote name='frpilot']i've seen the retail boxed version go for $9.99 before. i want to get the disc for that price whenever i see it on sale (save download time) and activate it on steam.
can i just buy the dlc w/o the game on steam so when i do get it, it will work?
what happens if i buy the game now off steam, and i get the disc later and activate that one? will it be considered an extra copy and giftable?[/QUOTE]
Once you activate on Steam, I don't think Steam cares if it was retail or not. You're not going to get a giftable copy just because one is retail and one isn't because to Steam it is no different than buying it though Steam.
can i just buy the dlc w/o the game on steam so when i do get it, it will work?
what happens if i buy the game now off steam, and i get the disc later and activate that one? will it be considered an extra copy and giftable?[/QUOTE]
Once you activate on Steam, I don't think Steam cares if it was retail or not. You're not going to get a giftable copy just because one is retail and one isn't because to Steam it is no different than buying it though Steam.
Is this game optimized better than SupcomFA was? It always annoyed me at how poorly FA ran even on a machine way above and beyond the recommended system requirements. I'd like to pick this up to mess around offline with but if adding more than a few AIs makes the game run really slowly I'm going to pass.
[quote name='turls']Once you activate on Steam, I don't think Steam cares if it was retail or not. You're not going to get a giftable copy just because one is retail and one isn't because to Steam it is no different than buying it though Steam.[/QUOTE]
i think you're right.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656
reading that faq page, it seems like only certain titles (most valve games) are giftable with extra copies.
i think you're right.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656
reading that faq page, it seems like only certain titles (most valve games) are giftable with extra copies.
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[quote name='Wet Ninja']Is the first Supreme Commander better than the second, then? Would I be better off getting that one than getting Supreme Commander 2?[/QUOTE]
Well, it depends. Keep in mind, I only own the first SupCom atm. I'm still debating the second. The first one was a resource abuser, it takes what your computer can do and it takes s'more. It looks better as a result. Go youtube the Gamespot review to hear more on that. I believe a lot of review sites still used the SupCom (1) standalone expansion as a benchmark for a long while accordingly.
Honestly, based on the reviews, it was like this. SupCom was (and I owned both it and its standalone exp) a longterm game. You build up, you take a long time doing it, you build expendable early units that you attack and lose, then you build up better units, throw them, lose them, build up more advanced units, attack, and attack. It is a lot like war. The thing about most RTS games is that they are based around the concept of the skirmish. Hence, why a lot of them call their Player vs CPU on multiplayer maps a "skirmish." A skirmish is not a war. It is a battle, short and perhaps explosive, but not long.
I always felt that the SupCom (1) games were big on the long fight. Emphasis on the long and the fight. They are great at it, though. You have to zoom out, consider the big picture, have your units as a cohesive whole do a strategy, even sometimes have fronts.
I think SupCom 2 scales that back. This is what pissed all the old fans off. (That and an apparently boring as hell campaign, though I always thought the first game's campaign was boring too.) Based on everything I've read, SupCom 2 offers you a quicker version of the large conflict, so instead of the long and big fight, it's a short and almost as big fight. They changed from having you go through all these minor units up to the advanced units to having you build up minor units that can be upgraded, making them the advanced units you'll continue to use. This helps the game be shorter.
The question really is...
Do you want to fight a long, protracted conflict or a short, accelerated battle? Keep in mind, a good portion of the long, protracted conflict involves resource collection and setup, especially at the beginning.
I already own SupCom 1 and FA. Trying to decide whether SupCom 2 is something I'd ever get around to playing since I already have the other SC2 (Starcraft 2), plan to get C&C4 when it HOPEFULLY goes on Steam sale, and a ton of other games on backlog, too, including finally finishing Dragon Age (plus Awakening), ME1 and 2 for PC, the upcoming Black Ops, plus every other Steam game that's been awesome and severely on sale (like Metro 2033, Borderlands + DLC, etc).
$5 is a great deal, though. Dammit.
Well, it depends. Keep in mind, I only own the first SupCom atm. I'm still debating the second. The first one was a resource abuser, it takes what your computer can do and it takes s'more. It looks better as a result. Go youtube the Gamespot review to hear more on that. I believe a lot of review sites still used the SupCom (1) standalone expansion as a benchmark for a long while accordingly.
Honestly, based on the reviews, it was like this. SupCom was (and I owned both it and its standalone exp) a longterm game. You build up, you take a long time doing it, you build expendable early units that you attack and lose, then you build up better units, throw them, lose them, build up more advanced units, attack, and attack. It is a lot like war. The thing about most RTS games is that they are based around the concept of the skirmish. Hence, why a lot of them call their Player vs CPU on multiplayer maps a "skirmish." A skirmish is not a war. It is a battle, short and perhaps explosive, but not long.
I always felt that the SupCom (1) games were big on the long fight. Emphasis on the long and the fight. They are great at it, though. You have to zoom out, consider the big picture, have your units as a cohesive whole do a strategy, even sometimes have fronts.
I think SupCom 2 scales that back. This is what pissed all the old fans off. (That and an apparently boring as hell campaign, though I always thought the first game's campaign was boring too.) Based on everything I've read, SupCom 2 offers you a quicker version of the large conflict, so instead of the long and big fight, it's a short and almost as big fight. They changed from having you go through all these minor units up to the advanced units to having you build up minor units that can be upgraded, making them the advanced units you'll continue to use. This helps the game be shorter.
The question really is...
Do you want to fight a long, protracted conflict or a short, accelerated battle? Keep in mind, a good portion of the long, protracted conflict involves resource collection and setup, especially at the beginning.
I already own SupCom 1 and FA. Trying to decide whether SupCom 2 is something I'd ever get around to playing since I already have the other SC2 (Starcraft 2), plan to get C&C4 when it HOPEFULLY goes on Steam sale, and a ton of other games on backlog, too, including finally finishing Dragon Age (plus Awakening), ME1 and 2 for PC, the upcoming Black Ops, plus every other Steam game that's been awesome and severely on sale (like Metro 2033, Borderlands + DLC, etc).
$5 is a great deal, though. Dammit.
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[quote name='jaab']Is this game optimized better than SupcomFA was? It always annoyed me at how poorly FA ran even on a machine way above and beyond the recommended system requirements. I'd like to pick this up to mess around offline with but if adding more than a few AIs makes the game run really slowly I'm going to pass.[/QUOTE]
The system requirements are a lot lower than SupCom 1. I don't know what they did to the engine but the game runs well, even on a single core. I didn't notice any slowdown on a 3 v 1 AI match on a Pentium D.
The system requirements are a lot lower than SupCom 1. I don't know what they did to the engine but the game runs well, even on a single core. I didn't notice any slowdown on a 3 v 1 AI match on a Pentium D.
Thanks for all the helpful advice, everyone. I haven't had as much gaming time lately as I'd like, so maybe I'll grab Supreme Commander 2 (for the shorter battles) while it's on sale. If I decide I like it and want larger, more detailed battles, I'll grab the first one (and its expansion) as well.
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