Student suspended for not ending phone call from Mom in Iraq!

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/06/call.suspension.ap/index.html

Are you KIDDING ME?! What is WRONG with the school system!?

COLUMBUS, Georgia (AP) -- A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a cell phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.

The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.

The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.

Cell phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."

Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.

"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
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Okay, yes, he was in clear violation, but the situation is a little different. She's out fighting for a country that allows the fatass who told him to hang up to keep his job!

Unbelievable.
 
That kid's parents should march into the principle's office and give him a good what-for! Wait...
 
As long as the student was sitting in the middle of a classroom, I don't see why the teachers couldn't have been more accomodating.
 
that is a cunty thing to do!

back in the day, i had a friend who got suspended from junior highschool because of the zero-tolerance rule, he brought a plastic gi joe machine gun for his claymation project.
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']that is a cunty thing to do!

back in the day, i had a friend who got suspended from junior highschool because of the zero-tolerance rule, he brought a plastic gi joe machine gun for his claymation project.[/QUOTE]

I used to have a dragon keychain knife for my keys, unless you were looking directly at it though it didn't look like a knife. My friends seemed to like it (probably wasn't a good idea to show them in school at lunch though), and my parents couldn't have cared less. I eventually stopped taking it though cause it broke, I sat down in human bio once and it pierced my skin (though just a bit), it had become loose and no longer stayed snapped shut. Luckily it wasn't bad, so I just moved it in my pocket (so it wouldn't poke me again) and sat through the class.
 
Could the teacher have been more accomodating? Yes.

Should the student have been less of a prick? Yes.

This is why Zero Tolerance policies don't work; they treat every violation the same regardless of the circumstances.
 
Well, Zero Tolerance policies DO work with things like drugs.

One strike and your out is acceptable when dealing with dealers.
 
so you think it's better to suspend or expel a drug dealer, putting him/her back out on the streets during the day, instead of hopefully learning something?

zero tolerance is stupid. penal systems in general are stupid. expelling kids with behavior problems is like spitting back at rain.
 
It's too hard to tell in the article what really happened. Everyone has a story on what they perceived as happening...
 
If this was in a classroom then I agree, but it was lunch! I mean what is he going to interupt the 1,000 screaming kids eating?
 
I have to agree with E-Z-B on this. From what the article says, it's tough to tell what exactly conspired with this event.

Personally, I doubt that "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom." was all he said to the teacher. Many schools usually do not hand out 10-day suspensions or arrests unless something worse than that is said.
 
public schools are insane and serve no educational purpose, close them all down until something better comes along.
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']
Personally, I doubt that "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom." was all he said to the teacher. Many schools usually do not hand out 10-day suspensions or arrests unless something worse than that is said.[/QUOTE]

Especially because after that it says he became disorderly. Although we don't know what that means, it is likely more than what is said.
 
[quote name='David85']Disorderly in a public school is when you say "no" nicely to a teacher.[/QUOTE]
:Looks at the article again:

Apparently, not in this case.
"Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office."
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']:Looks at the article again:

Apparently, not in this case.
"Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office."[/QUOTE]

are you even reading what youre quoting?

he used profanity "when taken to the office" so clearly the profanity could not be the reason he was taken to the office.

the suspension was based on his reaction to the teachers request to end the call, which is stated in the article and is fairly polite.
 
Of course the profanity was not the reason that he was taken to the office; the profanity was the disorderly conduct itself, as defined by Title 16, Chapter 11, Section 39, Sub-Section a, Paragraph 3 of the Georgia State Code:

(a) A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct when such person commits any of the following:

(3) Without provocation, uses to or of another person in such other person's presence, opprobrious or abusive words which by their very utterance tend to incite to an immediate breach of the peace, that is to say, words which as a matter of common knowledge and under ordinary circumstances will, when used to or of another person in such other person's presence, naturally tend to provoke violent resentment, that is, words commonly called "fighting words"
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Source: http://www.lawskills.com/code/ga/16/11/39/

He was sent to the office for obvious reasons; he brought a contraband item to school and he was insubordinate towards a reasonable request from an authority figure (The faculty member). In other words, if he had just kept his mouth shut or behaved politely while on his way to the office, then he would have been given a much lighter punishment (Detention, a referral to the Vice Principal, or a call to his guardians). The second he started to utter profanities toward the teacher, he was eligible for the misdemeanor of disorderly conduct, and the punishment that it carries.
 
[quote name='punqsux']are you even reading what youre quoting?

he used profanity "when taken to the office" so clearly the profanity could not be the reason he was taken to the office.

the suspension was based on his reaction to the teachers request to end the call, which is stated in the article and is fairly polite.[/QUOTE]

"I'm not about to hang up on my mom"

That's not that polite nor does it relay his attitude or tone because it's being written not spoken. If my parents found out I ever used profanity at school towards a teacher a swift verbal and perhaps physical asskicking would follow. I dunno about his mother, but if my dad or even my mom was in the army overseas, they'd say I deserve every bit of my punishment for acting like a little SOB despite any silly rules.
 
Oh cmon...like kids are respectful to teachers anymore. I am sure the kid was all attitude when the teacher requested he get off the phone. How is the teacher suppose to know he was on the phone with his mother in Iraq!

He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."
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Yeah...I am sure the kid said it all nice like that. Bull.
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']:Looks at the article again:

Apparently, not in this case.
"Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office."[/QUOTE]


Duh. The teacher made him hang up on his mom and then went to the office, i would swear up a storm too.

Schools over react to everything, maybe if the teachers showed some repect to the students they wouldn't be assholes.
 
[quote name='defender']Oh cmon...like kids are respectful to teachers anymore. I am sure the kid was all attitude when the teacher requested he get off the phone. How is the teacher suppose to know he was on the phone with his mother in Iraq!



Yeah...I am sure the kid said it all nice like that. Bull.[/QUOTE]

Actually, he used profanity afterwards.
 
[quote name='David85']Duh. The teacher made him hang up on his mom and then went to the office, i would swear up a storm too.

Schools over react to everything, maybe if the teachers showed some repect to the students they wouldn't be assholes.[/QUOTE]

I think what makes this so critical is that his mom is a soldier who may not have been able to call him up ANY time she wanted thus making his time talking with her all the more valuable. Bottom line, UNTIL the profanity, after he gave the explanation, I think the teacher should've left him alone given the circumstances.
 
[quote name='David85']
Schools over react to everything, maybe if the teachers showed some repect to the students they wouldn't be assholes.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Oh god. You sound like a little emo kid ready to shoot up his school.

Anyways, the kid probably got what he deserved.
 
[quote name='Rich']:lol: Oh god. You sound like a little emo kid ready to shoot up his school.

Anyways, the kid probably got what he deserved.[/QUOTE]

And I could say the same thing when I shoot up my school. :roll:
 
[quote name='David85']And I could say the same thing when I shoot up my school. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Am I going to get arrested for not reporting this? Don't I have to report threats to peoples lives to the cops? Then again, what if call them and they find out I'm the one who threw the grenade at the president?

Oh shit, I shouldn't have said that.
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']Of course the profanity was not the reason that he was taken to the office; the profanity was the disorderly conduct itself, as defined by Title 16, Chapter 11, Section 39, Sub-Section a, Paragraph 3 of the Georgia State Code:


Source: http://www.lawskills.com/code/ga/16/11/39/

He was sent to the office for obvious reasons; he brought a contraband item to school and he was insubordinate towards a reasonable request from an authority figure (The faculty member). In other words, if he had just kept his mouth shut or behaved politely while on his way to the office, then he would have been given a much lighter punishment (Detention, a referral to the Vice Principal, or a call to his guardians). The second he started to utter profanities toward the teacher, he was eligible for the misdemeanor of disorderly conduct, and the punishment that it carries.[/QUOTE]

Ah the zero intelligence policies.....
 
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