Supernova.org is now dead

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:(, i used it maybe once or so every month, damn i hate the MPAA, Korrazy torrents also took down content
 
[quote name='Battousai1002']That sucks a lot. Does anyone know what the next best torrent site is?[/quote]

torrentreactor.net is stiill up
 
[quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

Yeah me too, Venture Brothers. I'm gonna have to find somewhere else to get tonight's Xmas special.
 
[quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

Doesn't matter what you call it. In the eyes of the law, it's still illegal.

... Not that the illegality of downloading something has ever stopped me or anything.
 
[quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

As long as you're making up new interpretations of law for yourseflf, why not make it so murder doesn't apply if you really dislike the person.

It's not up to you to decide when you can grab someone else's property. They areunder no obligation to sell it to you, no matter how much money they may be giving up. Arguing that the world owes you luxury goods is not going to stand up well in any court.
 
Downloading TV shows IS illegal but ther is basically no market for protection against it so I think a lot of people think it is legal.
 
And to think, I started BTing just the other week when the Captain N episodes came online (which by the way, were of HORRIFIC quailty)...
 
[quote name='epobirs'][quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

As long as you're making up new interpretations of law for yourseflf, why not make it so murder doesn't apply if you really dislike the person.

It's not up to you to decide when you can grab someone else's property. They areunder no obligation to sell it to you, no matter how much money they may be giving up. Arguing that the world owes you luxury goods is not going to stand up well in any court.[/quote]

So sharing physical VHS tapes of recorded TV shows is in any way comparable to murder? Sorry, I'm less than chastized. Suprnova was my poor-man's DVR, nothing more than a recording of shows I hadn't seen in a while.

Sayounara Suprnova. Even if you were a haven for the illegal, your pure uses were awesome.
 
[quote name='Death2Sanity'][quote name='epobirs'][quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

As long as you're making up new interpretations of law for yourseflf, why not make it so murder doesn't apply if you really dislike the person.

It's not up to you to decide when you can grab someone else's property. They areunder no obligation to sell it to you, no matter how much money they may be giving up. Arguing that the world owes you luxury goods is not going to stand up well in any court.[/quote]

So sharing physical VHS tapes of recorded TV shows is murder? Sorry, I'm less than chastized. Suprnova was my poor-man's DVR, nothing more than a recording of shows I hadn't seen in a while.

Sayounara Suprnova. Even if you were a haven for the illegal, your pure uses were awesome.[/quote]

Don't be silly. I said nothing of the kind and you know it. I brought in murder to make people conscious of how wrong it is to believe one can alter the law for one's personal desires.

Sharing VHS tapes was a self-limiting concern for two reasons. First, the quality was increasingly compromised as more copies were made, and secondly, it was labor intensive. It did not represent a significant temptation to those offered professionally produced versions for purchase at what the owners believe to be reasonable prices. This changes quite a lot when the copying is performed by a method that produces perfectly identical files that can be propagated into tens of thousands of copies in a few days from the time the torrent is first spawn at a single location.

If the operators cannot be responsible for keeping illegal copies off of their site or enabling the locating of such, they can only blame themselves for the consequences. One needn't commit theft to be held accountable if you knowingly aid others in doing the deed.
 
[quote name='epobirs'][quote name='Death2Sanity'][quote name='epobirs'][quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

As long as you're making up new interpretations of law for yourseflf, why not make it so murder doesn't apply if you really dislike the person.

It's not up to you to decide when you can grab someone else's property. They areunder no obligation to sell it to you, no matter how much money they may be giving up. Arguing that the world owes you luxury goods is not going to stand up well in any court.[/quote]

So sharing physical VHS tapes of recorded TV shows is murder? Sorry, I'm less than chastized. Suprnova was my poor-man's DVR, nothing more than a recording of shows I hadn't seen in a while.

Sayounara Suprnova. Even if you were a haven for the illegal, your pure uses were awesome.[/quote]

Don't be silly. I said nothing of the kind and you know it. I brought in murder to make people conscious of how wrong it is to believe one can alter the law for one's personal desires.

Sharing VHS tapes was a self-limiting concern for two reasons. First, the quality was increasingly compromised as more copies were made, and secondly, it was labor intensive. It did not represent a significant temptation to those offered professionally produced versions for purchase at what the owners believe to be reasonable prices. This changes quite a lot when the copying is performed by a method that produces perfectly identical files that can be propagated into tens of thousands of copies in a few days from the time the torrent is first spawn at a single location.

If the operators cannot be responsible for keeping illegal copies off of their site or enabling the locating of such, they can only blame themselves for the consequences. One needn't commit theft to be held accountable if you knowingly aid others in doing the deed.[/quote]

Actually that isn't true, you can get much better quality files since you can get HDTV rips and watch them in high resolution on your computer, much better than standard cable, especially for those without an HDTV.
 
[quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

Just because it's not available for sale doesn't mean it's not protected by copyright law.

Although one could make the case that it's moral if the show was on a publicly available channel or if it's a premium channel you're already paying for.
 
kaka :( I was just about to get all the xfiles seasons from there, no way I'm paying the rip-off prices fox wants for those dvds. Oh well, suprnova.org has been good to me and I've definately taken from them 100x more then I've given them, so I guess I come out ahead.


RIP

EDIT: This discussion about legality is lame and pointless. To quote Cartman " Whateva, whateva. I do what I want bitch!" I'll download what I want, when I want, for whatever reasons I want. Suck on that!
 
[quote name='eldad9'][quote name='coolbrys']Im very sad too... I used it for mostly legal (Well, i call it legal if you cant buy the TV show on DVD yet) purposes.[/quote]

Just because it's not available for sale doesn't mean it's not protected by copyright law.

Although one could make the case that it's moral if the show was on a publicly available channel or if it's a premium channel you're already paying for.[/quote]
Thats pretty much my stance, if its a TV rip and not pay per view or something, then I don't care what people do with it.

Then again, I personally don't care if people do download movies illegally. I don't care if you drive 60mph in a 55 zone, and I don't care if you litter. But I do get a laugh when millionaires are crying about people not paying for things.
 
That's a dissappointment.. normally I would be mad especially if I was in the middle of dling and it all of sudden stops, but I don't use torrent for much of anything except animes. Oh well x.x
 
I didn't use the site much because Bit Torrent is one of the easiest ways to get caught downloading illegally, but it was still an excellent site.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Then again, I personally don't care if people do download movies illegally. I don't care if you drive 60mph in a 55 zone, and I don't care if you litter. But I do get a laugh when millionaires are crying about people not paying for things.[/quote]
you can download what you want, but don't litter. that's not cool.
 
[quote name='FunkSoulBrother']I didn't use the site much because Bit Torrent is one of the easiest ways to get caught downloading illegally, but it was still an excellent site.[/quote]

How so?

Not to sound like a smart-ass, but I'm just interested in how it is the easiest way "to get caught". :)

And I always thought that downloading things using bittorrent or any other P2P program wasn't illegal to download, rather illegal to have. Granted, you will have the file when you're done downloading, but WHILE downloading I don't think you're doing anything technically illegal since you are downloading various pieces of the file from different users. I think thats why it is so hard for the RIAA to crack down on said programs.

I dunno maybe I'm just a sad little "pirate" who misses his suprnova and is in denial :cry:
 
[quote name='slimpip'][quote name='FunkSoulBrother']I didn't use the site much because Bit Torrent is one of the easiest ways to get caught downloading illegally, but it was still an excellent site.[/quote]

How so?

Not to sound like a smart-ass, but I'm just interested in how it is the easiest way "to get caught". :)

And I always thought that downloading things using bittorrent or any other P2P program wasn't illegal to download, rather illegal to have. Granted, you will have the file when you're done downloading, but WHILE downloading I don't think you're doing anything technically illegal since you are downloading various pieces of the file from different users. I think thats why it is so hard for the RIAA to crack down on said programs.

I dunno maybe I'm just a sad little "pirate" who misses his suprnova and is in denial :cry:[/quote]

Because the entire way the program works is dependant on connecting directly to others, and your IP address is easily obtained as you are downloading, so that is why it is the "easiest" way to get caught.
 
as far as the law goes, i've heard many of times that it's illegal to upload [ share ] files. downloading is bad, but not as bad as sharing it is.
 
Yea I knew that whole thing about the IP addresses but I don't think they can do much with an Ip address. Wouldn't they have to contact the ISP to get your personal information? I know that alot of ISP's have privacy policies that won't allow divulging of personal info without substantial evidence. And scanning a hard drive without someone's knowledge has to be illegal without a search warrant.

Anyway I really don't think the RIAA or MPAA is concerned with downloaders as much as they are with the people who host the files, who leak the files, and who sell them for profit.
 
[quote name='slimpip']Yea I knew that whole thing about the IP addresses but I don't think they can do much with an Ip address. Wouldn't they have to contact the ISP to get your personal information? I know that alot of ISP's have privacy policies that won't allow divulging of personal info without substantial evidence. And scanning a hard drive without someone's knowledge has to be illegal without a search warrant.

Anyway I really don't think the RIAA or MPAA is concerned with downloaders as much as they are with the people who host the files, who leak the files, and who sell them for profit.[/quote]

If that is the case, then why are there people who have been caught downloading mp3's being prosecuted?
 
[quote name='greendj27'][quote name='slimpip']Yea I knew that whole thing about the IP addresses but I don't think they can do much with an Ip address. Wouldn't they have to contact the ISP to get your personal information? I know that alot of ISP's have privacy policies that won't allow divulging of personal info without substantial evidence. And scanning a hard drive without someone's knowledge has to be illegal without a search warrant.

Anyway I really don't think the RIAA or MPAA is concerned with downloaders as much as they are with the people who host the files, who leak the files, and who sell them for profit.[/quote]

If that is the case, then why are there people who have been caught downloading mp3's being prosecuted?[/quote]

I don't know :/ But, I'm hoping someone who is more knowledgeable about the topic steps in and enlightens us. :D
 
[quote name='slimpip'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='slimpip']Yea I knew that whole thing about the IP addresses but I don't think they can do much with an Ip address. Wouldn't they have to contact the ISP to get your personal information? I know that alot of ISP's have privacy policies that won't allow divulging of personal info without substantial evidence. And scanning a hard drive without someone's knowledge has to be illegal without a search warrant.

Anyway I really don't think the RIAA or MPAA is concerned with downloaders as much as they are with the people who host the files, who leak the files, and who sell them for profit.[/quote]

If that is the case, then why are there people who have been caught downloading mp3's being prosecuted?[/quote]

I don't know :/ But, I'm hoping someone who is more knowledgeable about the topic steps in and enlightens us. :D[/quote]

Some ISPs like Charter, NEVER gave any info out. Others did. The RIAA got an IP address of a person that was sharing. They in turn trace it to the ISP, the subpoena the ISP for the persons info.
 
[quote name='Oktoberfest']are you sure it's actually dead??
it's been down like this a couple of times before and it eventually comes back...[/quote]

Check it yourself.
 
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