the inaguration posts from the off topic board

[quote name='camoor'][quote name='rockhero']It could always be worse.[/quote]

It is. Bush is getting inagurated as... President :wave:[/quote]

.... again :roll:
 
[quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='camoor'][quote name='rockhero']It could always be worse.[/quote]

It is. Bush is getting inagurated as... President :wave:[/quote]

.... again :roll:[/quote]

Hell, I thought that's what this thread was going to be about.

It's a bit early to start diagnosing horrendous amounts of caffeine.

The only advice I have, and advice that has served me well in grad school, is a variation on the "this, too, shall pass" mentality. Eventually, it's going to be tomorrow. You aren't going to stop it; might as well go along and do what you can. If turning in projects and going to meetings is of the highest priority, then you may have to abandon sleep for most of the evening. Eventually, though, it will no longer be due.

It works for me, while others may say it's BS.

Truth be told, it doesn't work for me when I think "eventually, it will be January 20, 2009." That doesn't help one bit.

Short term, on the other hand...

myke.
 
Only the 16th president to be able to say that. What an honor.

mykevermin: Exactly my thoughts through the eight years of creeping liberalism and artificial stock market inflation that were the Clinton years.

To bring it to a more big-picture view: It could always be worse, and it will get better. And that thinking goes for almost any situation. Along with "Plan for the worst, hope for the best." But then again, I'm an optimistic Republican, not a negative, backward-looking democrat.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The only advice I have, and advice that has served me well in grad school, is a variation on the "this, too, shall pass" mentality.[/quote]

I do that with dentist and doctor appointments. Then on the car ride home it feels twice as nice to think "See, I told you so".
 
[quote name='dtcarson']But then again, I'm an optimistic Republican, not a negative, backward-looking democrat.[/quote]

Funny that you say that in the same post as "Exactly my thoughts through the eight years of creeping liberalism and artificial stock market inflation that were the Clinton years."
 
Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009, so you can whine, moan and complain all you want. Go ahead, go stand out on a corner and protest with some pink sings, he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.
 
[quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009...he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Yeah, that's why today SUCKS.

Did you read the thread title?
 
What's with pink signs? Are we misogynistic or homophobic (or a little from each column)?

Did you fail to see that I started a new thread for this purpose? Leave poor javeryh alone, there's enough for him to do.

myke.
 
[quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009, so you can whine, moan and complain all you want. Go ahead, go stand out on a corner and protest with some pink sings, he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Technically, there are things people can do.
Realistically, nothing will come of it, but there are things people can do.
Absolutes are dangerous that way.
 
[quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009...he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Unless, of course, he just happens to be assassinated by someone.
 
[quote name='x0thedeadzone0x'][quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009...he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Unless, of course, he just happens to be assassinated by someone.[/quote]

You know, even jokingly hinting at something like that could technically be viewed as illegal.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='x0thedeadzone0x'][quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009...he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Unless, of course, he just happens to be assassinated by someone.[/quote]

You know, even jokingly hinting at something like that could technically be viewed as illegal.[/quote]

Unless you're a genius spy, assassination is basically a suicide mission anyways, so I think if anyone were actually serious about it they wouldn't be contemplating the legal troubles out of it.
 
[quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009, so you can whine, moan and complain all you want. Go ahead, go stand out on a corner and protest with some pink sings, he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Impeachment, anyone? :wink:
 
What he's trying to say is that even posting something like that on a message board can very well easily bring a knock at your door with a very serious Secret Service agent asking you for your computer.

Not smart.
 
here's my post that I was posting as the thread got split:

[quote name='bil4l']Well the fact is Bush is the Prez until 2009, so you can whine, moan and complain all you want. Go ahead, go stand out on a corner and protest with some pink sings, he's the president and there isn't anything you can do about it.[/quote]

Or, rather than protesting [which is like a car alarm nowadays, who pays attention it them?] work on ideas, concepts, a message, a platform, alternatives, and move forward. But that would require work, I know, it's just easier to protest and bitch.

And yes, saying shit like that in the last few posts is *not* cool. I may disagree with lots of people, some of them vehemently, but I don't wish a brutal death on them, and i still respect a title and a position.
 
[quote name='x0thedeadzone0x']
Unless you're a genius spy, assassination is basically a suicide mission[/quote]

jigen could do it ^^

jigen.jpg
 
ATTENTION: I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CONSPIRING AGAINST OR KILLING THE CORNDOG. I AM NOT A TERRORIST. I AM NOT MAKING THREATS. I AM JUST ENGAGING A HYPOTHETICAL CONVORSATION.

Now that that's out of the way.

[quote name='dtcarson']And yes, saying shit like that in the last few posts is *not* cool. I may disagree with lots of people, some of them vehemently, but I don't wish a brutal death on them, and i still respect a title and a position.[/quote]

Why not? We have no problem with killing terrorists because they endanger the world (and hey, that's fine). I believe that CORNDOG is seriously endangering our country in two different ways. The moves that he physically makes globally are putting us at a higher risk for attack in the US, and his domestic policies are destroying our government and way of life. I think that CORNDOG is a danger to the United States and everything that it stands for, so why is it wrong to ill-wish him? It's not like I would do so for the guy personally (even though I don't like his personality), but even jerks are allowed to live their life. If I think that he poses a threat to our nation, then why is it wrong for me to believe that his assassination wouldn't be a horrible thing?

I REPEAT, I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING REGUARDING THE HARM OF THE CORNDOG. GOD BLESS AMERICA, DON'T BARGE DOWN MY DOOR. FREEDOM OF SPEACH, I DON'T OWN ANY GUNS. NO CONSPIRACIES, I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE!
 
[quote name='roland13x']Mods would be smart to lock (and delete) this thread.[/quote]

I love living in a country ruled by fear, don't you?
 
[quote name='roland13x']Mods would be smart to lock (and delete) this thread.[/quote]

who the fuck are you?

I'd rather the mods bring in the other thread (that I started) in order to keep me from jumping around from thread to thread. I made some fairly coherent remarks a moment ago (in a fleeting moment of insight), and now I've got competition!

myke.
 
You have it wrong. It is a federal offense to even suggest what you guys have mentioned, even with your disclaimers. In this day and age, it's just not worth it. Big Brother IS watching.

I've got no love for the Bush, but I'm also smart enough to avoid getting into trouble over a stupid message board.
 
[quote name='roland13x']You have it wrong. It is a federal offense to even suggest what you guys have mentioned, even with your disclaimers. In this day and age, it's just not worth it. Big Brother IS watching.

I've got no love for the Bush, but I'm also smart enough to avoid getting into trouble over a stupid message board.[/quote]

Hm..... so I can't say I want to kill the president, even if I say I don't want to kill the president, when I'm in the u.s.? But I can say I want to kill my boss, even if I don't want to kill my boss, when I'm in the u.s.? If this is the case then I remember a conversation I had with someone over what I think should be done about bush if he invaded Iran and Saudi Arabia, I think I broke more than a few laws with that one. Oh well, I'll have to save my murderous rants for when I'm in canada. I don't think the RCMP are going to be banging down my door here.
 
[quote name='roland13x']You have it wrong. It is a federal offense to even suggest what you guys have mentioned, even with your disclaimers. In this day and age, it's just not worth it. Big Brother IS watching.

.[/quote]

Just to clarify that is not entirely true. The threat would have to be determined as a "true threat". However ,the context that the threat is made is also taken into account therefore, disclaimers are a part of that. Also the threat would have to come directly from the person not by proxy. My grandma says quite often "Someone should shoot Bush"

There was a case in 1969 were a man said 'If I get drafted, I am going to put LBJ in my crosshairs". His conviction was overturned by the Supreme court because they also allow for political hyperbole. Also the conditional nature also rendered the threat not "true".

Nothing that has been posted here would pass the "true threat" test, IMO.

But that doesn't mean the Secret Service isn't paying attention. A man in Utah got a visit because he had bumper sticker that said "King George- Off with his head".

one final note of interest to our Republican friends who don't look back (except when talking about Clinton). It is also a federal offense to make a true threat to a former president.
 
Exactly my point usickenme. It's just not worth the risk to spout off like this. There are more creative and useful ways to talk about change without resorting to violence or the threat of violence.
 
Guys, sorry I started this, but I seriously doubt anyone at the SS is going to knock down my door. It's not the first time I've said anything bad about Georgie (if the government wanted to, they can get in your AIM conversation logs easily). And for a statement (mostly) said in jest you guys are taking me just a tad too literally. I'll admit that I don't like the guy, but that's another story, and i'm not here for a political debate.
 
As I have always said,

I have never seen such hatred as there is from today's Democratic Party of today.

The only thing more scary than the lies that are being spread about Bush and his staff is the fact that so many of you people accept them at face value - not because you have put them through ANY type of analytical test to see if they are true or not, but because you hate Bush. When the voting population begins basing their decisions on hatred, I am afraid for our country's future...

"You say Bush murdered three children last week who were visiting the Whitehouse because they were wearing Kerry T-Shirts? Well, I hate him so it must be true."

You people scare me. Seriously. I will fight you politically to the very end not because Republicans are always right or Democrats are always wrong, but because such blatant hatred will never bring good to our country.
 
Because the hatred is only coming from the Democrat side of the aisle. Riiiiiiiight...

The irony, of course, is that blind partisianship like yours is the root cause of the problem
 
[quote name='chosen1s']As I have always said,

I have never seen such hatred as there is from today's Democratic Party of today. [/quote]

I'm glad you've recovered from that coma you must have be in from 1992-2000.
 
[quote name='chosen1s']...When the voting population begins basing their decisions on hatred, I am afraid for our country's future...

"You say Bush murdered three children last week who were visiting the Whitehouse because they were wearing Kerry T-Shirts? Well, I hate him so it must be true."

You people scare me. Seriously. I will fight you politically to the very end not because Republicans are always right or Democrats are always wrong, but because such blatant hatred will never bring good to our country.[/quote]

You scare me dude. That is one screwed up line of reasoning.

After all, Dems aren't the ones who asked for a line in the Constitution banning gays from marriage, or who mistakenly called the war in Iraq a Crusade 3 times.

And most Dems on this board have not pledged to fight anyone "politically to the very end", because that is a very close minded statement. I'd like nothing more then to agree with the more conservative people in the world, then we could start making the world a better place instead of always fighting about which direction we should be heading in.
 
Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, and Fred Phelps are caring, loving people.

Check out these websites of Phelp's, which are just teeming with love:
www.godhatesfags.com
www.godhatessweden.com
www.godhatescanada.com

Can you feel the warmth? Nobody (and I mean nobody) has the market cornered on hatred. If you want to make generalizations, then how about irrational hatred of all things European (particularly thos of French and German origin), not to mention the intellectual incapacity to separate one middle eastern culture from another, instead relying on concepts of "brown people" that prevent one from seeing the significant cultural differences between al qaeda members and participants in Iraqi facisim.

If that's not hate...

myke.
 
Jeb Bush in 2008! Can't believe im responding to this biased one minded opinion all you guys do is bash. This is why the President won the election.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']This is why the President one the election.[/quote]

'one' the election? :roll:

So, what can you tell me about Jeb Bush's policies that make you want to vote for him?

myke.
 
I am a resident of New Jersey not Florida, but I am impressed on how he handled the hurricanes that hit in 2004 and the devostation that they caused. Also I like his personality and to be honest with you I don't think he will run in 2008 becuase he doesn't want to.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']I am a resident of New Jersey not Florida, but I am impressed on how he handled the hurricanes that hit in 2004 and the devostation that they caused. Also I like his personality and to be honest with you I don't think he will run in 2008 becuase he doesn't want to.[/quote]

You're impressed with the way he handled the hurricanes? What, precisely, did he do?

If you haven't noticed, what I'm trying to point out is the fact that you've championed an individual based upon (1) his political alliance and (2) his familial alliance. I'm willing to bet that you can't tell me one thing that Jeb has done that you think makes him presidential material. I'm looking for specific policies, appointments to office, or bills passed that you think America deserves. In addition, I want you to provide the logic and rationale for why such policies are beneficial, and why Jeb Bush (as opposed to the countless other politicians who are far more likely to run) has your support for a position he has professed no interest to running for.

If you can't do that, then you're showing me that you blindly embrace individuals for political office without putting any thought or analysis into why you embrace them. With that in mind, I consider you the worst of the worst.

By the way, what in the world is "devostation"? Is it some kind of delightful console that only plays the wonderful music of Akron, Ohio's woebegotten sons?

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'][quote name='MrFriday18']I am a resident of New Jersey not Florida, but I am impressed on how he handled the hurricanes that hit in 2004 and the devostation that they caused. Also I like his personality and to be honest with you I don't think he will run in 2008 becuase he doesn't want to.[/quote]

You're impressed with the way he handled the hurricanes? What, precisely, did he do?

If you haven't noticed, what I'm trying to point out is the fact that you've championed an individual based upon (1) his political alliance and (2) his familial alliance. I'm willing to bet that you can't tell me one thing that Jeb has done that you think makes him presidential material. I'm looking for specific policies, appointments to office, or bills passed that you think America deserves. In addition, I want you to provide the logic and rationale for why such policies are beneficial, and why Jeb Bush (as opposed to the countless other politicians who are far more likely to run) has your support for a position he has professed no interest to running for.

If you can't do that, then you're showing me that you blindly embrace individuals for political office without putting any thought or analysis into why you embrace them. With that in mind, I consider you the worst of the worst.

By the way, what in the world is "devostation"? Is it some kind of delightful console that only plays the wonderful music of Akron, Ohio's woebegotten sons?

myke.[/quote]

Read what I said buddy.

1. I could careless what you think about me
2. I dont have to explain shit to you
3. I never said I was in love with him and he must run all I said was Jeb Bush in 08. By the way he must be well like he has a 70% approval rating.
4. Can you tell me who should run in 2008 and why.
5. I have no idea why you're making such a big deal over this.
6. Jeb Bush did do a good job in surveying the damage that took place with providing proper aid.
7. Jeb Bush has said over and over he will not run in 2008 so stop bustin my balls.
8. Why are you narrowing me out over everyone else. Is it b.c im a republican and your just an angry demorcat?
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']

Read what I said buddy.

1. I could careless what you think about me
2. I dont have to explain shit to you
3. I never said I was in love with him and he must run all I said was Jeb Bush in 08. By the way he must be well like he has a 70% approval rating.
4. Can you tell me who should run in 2008 and why.
5. I have no idea why you're making such a big deal over this.
6. Jeb Bush did do a good job in surveying the damage that took place with providing proper aid.
7. Jeb Bush has said over and over he will not run in 2008 so stop bustin my balls.
8. Why are you narrowing me out over everyone else. Is it b.c im a republican and your just an angry demorcat?[/quote]

1. You are a loser and everyone sees this, so you got used to it.
2. You can't explain shit to anyone because you are a dumbass.
3. We all know you love guys, just admit it.
4. He doesn't have to explain shit to you.
5. Once again you are a loser troll.
6. Jeb Bush is a dumbass, he needed to get the money out fast because if he didn't his brother wouldn't have won.
7. I'm sure you would love it he busted your balls.
8. Is thta all you think? You aren't just a loser, you are a fucking dumbass. There are a lot of republicans here, and we listen to what they say, when they base what they say on something intellegent. We narrow you out because you're just fucking dumb and a troll.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']1. I could careless what you think about me
2. I dont have to explain shit to you
3. I never said I was in love with him and he must run all I said was Jeb Bush in 08. By the way he must be well like he has a 70% approval rating.
4. Can you tell me who should run in 2008 and why.
5. I have no idea why you're making such a big deal over this.
6. Jeb Bush did do a good job in surveying the damage that took place with providing proper aid.
7. Jeb Bush has said over and over he will not run in 2008 so stop bustin my balls.
8. Why are you narrowing me out over everyone else. Is it b.c im a republican and your just an angry demorcat?[/quote]

sigh.

1. That's your prerogative to not care. OK? No big deal to me. (by the way, "care less" is two words; "careless" is an adjective that describes people who don't check their spelling and grammar).

2. You've done an exceptional job at doing just that. I like to think that people have reasons for behaving in certain ways; thus, I figured that you had a reason for cheerleading a man who has no intention to run for president. I don't believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) that it is *my* fault that you can't explain yourself.

3. You said "Jeb Bush in '08," correct. So, you're doing one of two things: (1) expressing your interest in a person not running for office, or (2) trolling, because you typed it for the sole purpose of antagonizing others. Which is it?

4. I have no idea who should run for the right, and I don't think I'm qualified to say. I'm pretty left, I will admit, so I'm a big fan of people who outright admit to wanting to raise taxes for the extremely wealthy (such as Dick Gephardt, John Kerry) or repeal NAFTA and work against globalization (Dennis Kucinich, for instance). If you want to play the "the candidate must appeal to middle America" game, then I think Howard Dean has a good chance. He was ruined by one slip of the tongue; I feel miserable thinking that one gaffe in public would ruin his career, because he's not as radical as Kucinich and Kerry, but recognizes that America needs to stop overspending, and also needs to move forward (though I'm willing to say the same about McCain, even if I think he's a wimp for not speaking out against Bush - like you *know* he wants to).

5. I don't make big deals; I engage in discourse. If you can't follow it, again, I don't think it's my fault you can't do so. I'm not calling you names, I'm asking you questions. If I want to troll and call you a "poo-poo head," I don't think I'd have a hard time doing so. If the fact that I'm showing you that either you're (1) a troll or (2) a poor thinker bothers you....say it with me now, I don't think that's my fault.

6. Maybe, I dunno. I do recall that Florida received over $900 million in recovery aid from the federal government, which also helped them recover. I also recall that several hundred thousand (just a few, y'know) more people died in southeast Asia than in Florida (how many, numerically, did die from the hurricanes?). I also recall that Bush's initial offer of aid was $15 million (which, just so you know, is less than $900 million). Of course, Bush (this is W, now) was embarrassed into offering $350 million, so it's not a huge difference anymore; recall, though, how signficant the difference if nobody had peeped at the extent of United States generosity to southeast Asia.

7. Is this some kind of "no means yes" approach you're taking with Jeb? If you're aware that he's not running, why in the world would you say "Jeb Bush in '08?" I'm not busting your balls. I'm looking for answers. If someone says to me "the earth is flat," I'm going to ask them for proof. If someone says to me "The Cincinnati Bengals are gonna go all the way this year," I'm going to ask them what makes them think that. It's called analytical/rational thinking. It's good for the soul.

8. sigh. Because I hate everybody from Jersey? How's that for a reason?

myke.
 
So, who out there remembers Jumana Michael Hanna? Statue of resiliency and virtue for the Republicans who think we had every right to invade Iraq. If anything, her stories of rape, abuse, and murder single handedly justified anything and everything that happened once we went there.

Turns out she's a complete fraud:
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/041222_mfe_dream_1.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22249-2005Jan19?language=printer

In our nation's efforts to justify this military action, it seems not enough people are playing the skeptic. This is not good for the pro-war effort, folks.

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So, who out there remembers Jumana Michael Hanna? Statue of resiliency and virtue for the Republicans who think we had every right to invade Iraq. If anything, her stories of rape, abuse, and murder single handedly justified anything and everything that happened once we went there.

Turns out she's a complete fraud:
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/041222_mfe_dream_1.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22249-2005Jan19?language=printer

In our nation's efforts to justify this military action, it seems not enough people are playing the skeptic. This is not good for the pro-war effort, folks.

myke.[/quote]

That's the Karl Rove magic. By the time that the lies that Cheney's been feeding Bush have been discredited, we're off on the next crusade, be it against Iraq, gays, or television that the government feels we are not mature enough to handle.
 
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