The liberal machine continues to fall apart

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CAGiversary!
A year ago, the liberal group America Coming Together was on the cutting edge of national politics, spending tens of millions of dollars on a massive voter-mobilization project in every presidential battleground state.

The dream was that ACT -- heavily funded by billionaire George Soros -- would play a decisive role in getting Democratic nominee John F. Kerry elected president and then remain in business as a permanent force in liberal politics.

Instead, the group this week began sending e-mails to most of the 28 people who make up the remaining ACT staff warning that their paychecks would stop at the end of August. All the state offices have been, or are soon to be, closed.

The news represented a long fall for ACT and its sister group, the Media Fund. The groups had attracted such Democratic heavyweights as former Clinton aide Harold Ickes, Emily's List founder Ellen Malcolm and Service Employees International Union President Andrew L. Stern.

The architect of ACT was Steve Rosenthal, who had won his spurs as political director of the AFL-CIO and by 2003 was determined to build a liberal voter-mobilization organization that would be independent of the Democratic Party, labor unions or other traditional interest groups.

The idea captured the imagination of liberal donors. Soros and other wealthy contributors saw ACT as a vehicle for taking the fight to President Bush, whose policies in Iraq and at home they vehemently opposed, at a time when many Democrats in Congress were treating a war president gingerly.

Soros and his close associate -- Progressive Corp. Chairman Peter Lewis -- together put $38.5 million into ACT and the Media Fund. With this seed money, the two organizations collected $196.4 million, enough to set up voter mobilization programs in every presidential battleground state and to flood the airwaves with pro-Democratic commercials in the early spring of 2004 when Kerry's campaign was broke.

By all measures but one, ACT and the Media Fund were a great success, helping to turn out record numbers of new voters. But that one measure was the one that counted. After Bush's reelection and GOP gains in the House and Senate, Soros and Lewis pulled the plug on their support.

Soros "was disappointed by the outcome of the election," said his spokesman, Michael Vachon. "At the same time, he is very pleased with the work that ACT did."

Asked whether Soros will once again open his checkbook for ACT, Vachon said Soros's plans "are evolving and not yet nailed down."

But ACT officials are not optimistic.

For now, ACT will be reduced to a research operation, analyzing strategies to turn out key blocs of voters. Rosenthal yesterday put an upbeat face on the turn of events. "We are still forging ahead; we expect to be doing very serious research in Virginia on exurban and infrequent voters," he said.

"It has proven much tougher to sustain this as something year-round than we had anticipated," Rosenthal said. Now, he said, the task he and others face will be figuring out "just how to ramp up and ramp down" as donor interest rises and falls. Rosenthal will continue to work with ACT, but he said he now plans to start his own consulting company.


Malcolm, Rosenthal, and Ickes discovered that you could call it America Coming Together, but saying so didn't make it true.

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Couldn't happen to a nicer group of douchebags.

I look forward to Air America's using of non-profit charitable funds to continue operations gaining more public scrutiny as well. Oh boy did I fuck with the moveon.org "election monitor" last November. He was so pissed I basically offered to let him hit me for free and I'd let the Pennsylvania Constible take him in for interfering with an election by intimidating voters.

Yeah, these groups are falling like flies. I look forward to moveon.org being taken over by a gay porn site.
 
I thought Soros was going to make himself go broke trying to knock Bush out of office but I guess I'm wrong. I wouldn't have blamed him since our currency is taking a hit because of Bush and probably cost him some money.
On a similar note given enough time I hope Soros could eventually bank enough money to almost certainly destroy Cheney's almost purely War Profiteering company Halliburton coughHalliburtonmakesworsethanarcadequalityproductscough.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']I thought Soros was going to make himself go broke trying to knock Bush out of office but I guess I'm wrong. I wouldn't have blamed him since our currency is taking a hit because of Bush and probably cost him some money.
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Do you even know who George Soros is and how he made his money ? Soros has a famous nickname, and it's very telling as to what kind of man he is. You should do some googling before blaming the devaluation of the dollar squarely on Bush.
 
You're right. I don't technically blame it on Bush, I blame it on those companies he gave tax breaks to for outsourcing instead of extending tarriffs on most imported goods(see clothing, textiles, etc.) and subsidizing the same domestic goods. Still Bush shares part of blame for taking the attitude he has. Granted I know Clinton has some part in the blame because of NAFTA but even if Clinton vetoed it I'm sure it would've been overriden by Congress and enacted into law.
Yup, hail the WTO! That's what I follow my laws by. rolls eyes.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Do you even know who George Soros is and how he made his money ? Soros has a famous nickname, and it's very telling as to what kind of man he is. You should do some googling before blaming the devaluation of the dollar squarely on Bush.[/QUOTE]

Oh, do share these links; I can't wait to be deluged in hitpieces from newsmax, frontpagemag, and other tripe.

Maybe Michelle Malkin wrote one of those articles? Oh, she's credible!

Your knee-jerk reaction to the name Soros blinds you to one simple fact: most, if not all, wealthy people are corrupt. From time to time I see the "fair enough!" television commercials from the groups funded by tobacco lawsuit money. They continually portray the tobacco corporation as exploitative, disinterested in the wellbeing of its consumer base, and concerned about *nothing* more than their profit margin.

If you don't think that describes *every* major corporation, then I've got a bridge to sell you. When you submit me some links that say Soros, a billionaire, is corrupt, please submit links that also prove that the sky appears to be blue.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yeah, these groups are falling like flies. I look forward to moveon.org being taken over by a gay porn site.[/QUOTE]

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Anyone else think Karl Rove has taken more balls to the face than Mike Piazza?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Your knee-jerk reaction to the name Soros blinds you to one simple fact: most, if not all, wealthy people are corrupt. From time to time I see the "fair enough!" television commercials from the groups funded by tobacco lawsuit money. They continually portray the tobacco corporation as exploitative, disinterested in the wellbeing of its consumer base, and concerned about *nothing* more than their profit margin.

If you don't think that describes *every* major corporation, then I've got a bridge to sell you. When you submit me some links that say Soros, a billionaire, is corrupt, please submit links that also prove that the sky appears to be blue.[/QUOTE]

:applause:
 
I want someone to do a damning expose on that evil corporation..... Petco!

OMG, they sell dog food, cat food, horse supplies, aquariums and even PET BEDS! They're TEH EV1L!1!1!!!

Petco must be stopped!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Oh, do share these links; I can't wait to be deluged in hitpieces from newsmax, frontpagemag, and other tripe.

Maybe Michelle Malkin wrote one of those articles? Oh, she's credible!

Your knee-jerk reaction to the name Soros blinds you to one simple fact: most, if not all, wealthy people are corrupt. From time to time I see the "fair enough!" television commercials from the groups funded by tobacco lawsuit money. They continually portray the tobacco corporation as exploitative, disinterested in the wellbeing of its consumer base, and concerned about *nothing* more than their profit margin.

If you don't think that describes *every* major corporation, then I've got a bridge to sell you. When you submit me some links that say Soros, a billionaire, is corrupt, please submit links that also prove that the sky appears to be blue.[/QUOTE]

Did I ever say he was corupt? No. I said look at what kind of man he is. I didn't have to google anything on Soros. I knew about him well before Google existed, when "surfing" the web was a mostly text affair. Probably just after you learned how to read and I was alreay out of college.

What I really don't understand is your statement :
"Your knee-jerk reaction to the name Soros blinds you to one simple fact: most, if not all, wealthy people are corrupt.

a jerk reaction in and of itself, which seems to conform to my opinion of Soros, so I don't understand why you find it contradictory. It's also a statement I do not agree with. The wealthy are not all corupt, although your communist unconcious has no doubt hypnotized you to believe this to be true.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Granted I know Clinton has some part in the blame because of NAFTA but even if Clinton vetoed it I'm sure it would've been overriden by Congress and enacted into law.
Yup, hail the WTO! That's what I follow my laws by. rolls eyes.[/QUOTE]

Betraying your ignorance once again I see.
 
What? I think the WTO is a TERRIBLE organization. I consider what it stands for. Free Trade is a TERRIBLE idea, it's like Communism, it sounds good on paper but the reason it hasn't been dispelled is because it benefits the Corporatocracy. You have to take into account exchange rates, living conditions, etc. Meanwhile outsourcing creates a false positive in terms of profit since you acquire that through what I like to call negative gains. I consider in business two sorts of gains: positive and negative. Positive is acquired by just more product sold, more profit in general for that year because you found a way to make the product cheaper. A negative gain on the other hand is increasing the revenue made because you either cut the fat(which isn't necessarily bad except for who got fired) or Outsourcing, which COMPLETELY takes money out of the American economy by deporting Middle Class jobs. If you don't have a healthy Middle Class in America WHO will support the economy, answer me that el.
I also checked on Soro's and read about that "Rose" Revolution and I can't say I completely approve of it since the leader is Authoritarian. I truly believe in as loose a Democracy as we can practically have, this includes trial lawyers and checks on Corporations as well as a revocation of the Supreme Court decision that declared them having personhood status when it comes to donating money.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Granted I know Clinton has some part in the blame because of NAFTA but even if Clinton vetoed it I'm sure it would've been overriden by Congress and enacted into law.[/QUOTE]

I guess I should have chopped that last sentence, since I don't want to get into a WTO debate (although I do disagree with you). I simply wanted to point out your ignorance of the facts of the NAFTA vote, proof here:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00395
http://www.wexlerwalker.com/trade_p.htm

The Senate vote was 61-38 and the House approved NAFTA by 234-200. Those are not veto-proof majorities, obviously.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Did I ever say he was corupt? No. I said look at what kind of man he is. I didn't have to google anything on Soros. I knew about him well before Google existed, when "surfing" the web was a mostly text affair. Probably just after you learned how to read and I was alreay out of college.

What I really don't understand is your statement :

a jerk reaction in and of itself, which seems to conform to my opinion of Soros, so I don't understand why you find it contradictory. It's also a statement I do not agree with. The wealthy are not all corupt, although your communist unconcious has no doubt hypnotized you to believe this to be true.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the links to stories about Soros from credible news sources. I'm dreadfully enlightened now.

Also, please don't applaud yourself for being a college graduate in the same post that you misspell the word "unconscious." It's bad form.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I guess I should have chopped that last sentence, since I don't want to get into a WTO debate (although I do disagree with you). I simply wanted to point out your ignorance of the facts of the NAFTA vote, proof here:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00395
http://www.wexlerwalker.com/trade_p.htm

The Senate vote was 61-38 and the House approved NAFTA by 234-200. Those are not veto-proof majorities, obviously.[/QUOTE]

Fine then Clinton should get crap too. I'll spread the blame where blame is due and I wanna hear how you can justify an idea that helps lead to the disintegration of the American middle class or at least a large part of it. You can't keep a healthy Capitalist system WITHOUT the middle class or a fairly good Democracy as well. I also don't see what's wrong with my idea of unleashing the CHOKE chain when a corporation(preferably HUGE) gets out of line. They're like
a dog that gets out of line, except the dog doesn't deserve it. Well I guess a better analogy would be the incoming recruit to boot camp but the Corporation is the true unwieldy POS that you have to break down into a cooperative willing thing. Basically you break any spirit the Corporation has to pull shit.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Fine then Clinton should get crap too. I'll spread the blame where blame is due and I wanna hear how you can justify an idea that helps lead to the disintegration of the American middle class or at least a large part of it. You can't keep a healthy Capitalist system WITHOUT the middle class or a fairly good Democracy as well. I also don't see what's wrong with my idea of unleashing the CHOKE chain when a corporation(preferably HUGE) gets out of line. They're like
a dog that gets out of line, except the dog doesn't deserve it. Well I guess a better analogy would be the incoming recruit to boot camp but the Corporation is the true unwieldy POS that you have to break down into a cooperative willing thing. Basically you break any spirit the Corporation has to pull shit.[/QUOTE]

Obviously, I disagree with you about the "disintigration" of the middle class. I think I'll trust people like Alan Greenspan and the other experts on this one over your fear-ridden protectionism. Nothing else really to be said. You're not one of those people who goes to international trade meetings and riots, I hope?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']You're not one of those people who goes to international trade meetings and riots, I hope?[/QUOTE]

You're not one of those people who buys coffee at Starbucks, I hope?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Obviously, I disagree with you about the "disintigration" of the middle class. I think I'll trust people like Alan Greenspan and the other experts on this one over your fear-ridden protectionism. Nothing else really to be said. You're not one of those people who goes to international trade meetings and riots, I hope?[/QUOTE]

No but I really think you should watch "Yes Men". In one of the meeting they have with people expecting WTO representers they basically put forth the notion that slavery didn't need to be abolished because slavery would've eventually undone itself according to the free market since you have to take care of a slave which costs more than employing a free man. What you basically get from the reasoning they put forth is that in a corporations eyes the value of human life means nothing and humans are tools to an end. They just basically serve as another step in the production and should one die from a disease that could be cured that they can't afford to treat, ho-hum, we can replace them.
I guess that's technically off the subject of the WTO but you really should watch it. I guess it just solifies the idea that all corporations truly are manifestationwise are humans at their basest, ignoring all concern for others for the sole benefit of themselves, regardless if massive physical or mental harm is caused directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly. Ehhh I drag on too long.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Thanks for the links to stories about Soros from credible news sources. I'm dreadfully enlightened now.

Also, please don't applaud yourself for being a college graduate in the same post that you misspell the word "unconscious." It's bad form.[/QUOTE]


woot woot grammar police, got nothin' better to do in your life then to correct people's spellin', woot woot :)
 
Laugh it up now . . . either we've reached the peak of right-wing power (because the pendulum tend to swing) . . . and there will be a slow recovery of an opposition party.

Or millions will get what they've actually worked for but don't really want a one-party state. If the Republicans solidify their gains and continue their corruption, many of the casual Limbaugh listeners (dupes) will wake up to find a fundamentalist state that begins to limit all liberties except property rights for the rich.
 
[quote name='dmpolska']woot woot grammar police, got nothin' better to do in your life then to correct people's spellin', woot woot :)[/QUOTE]

It's rather unfortunate that nobody's posted a link to one of these sordid exposes on George Soros from a reputable news source, otherwise I might have something better to do in my life, sweetheart.
 
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