The liberal media refuses to say the "T word"

Scrubking

CAGiversary!
When is a terrorist not a terrorist? When he is on the BBC, of course. Where - according to the corporation's editorial guidelines - "the word 'terrorist' itself can be a barrier rather than aid to understanding".

Within hours of the explosions, a memo was sent to senior editors on the main BBC news programmes from Helen Boaden, head of news. While she was aware "we are dancing on the head of a pin", the BBC was very worried about offending its World Service audience, she said.

BBC output was not to describe the killers of more than 50 in London as "terrorists" although - nonsensically - they could refer to the bombings as "terror attacks". And while the guidelines generously concede that non-BBC should be allowed to use the "t" word, BBC online was not even content with that and excised it from its report of Tony Blair's statement to the Commons.


▪ In the beginning of April, 2003 an Iraqi army officer killed five American soldiers by blowing himself up in a taxi. In Netanya that week, a Palestinian ignited his explosive belt at the entrance to a cafe, injuring 50 Israelis. The Associated Press listed the Iraqi attack among other historical "terror attacks against the U.S. military," but AP coverage of the Netanya blast referred to the bomber as a Palestinian "militant."

▪ In May, 2003 the New York Times launched a new, special section of their news site called "Threats and Responses: Targeting Terror." Recent deadly terror attacks in Chechnya, Saudi Arabia and the Philippines were included, but absolutely no reference was made to two terrorist attacks in Israel during that period.


I just want to thank all you liberal idiots for wanting to comfort the hearts and calm the minds of our islamic militant (remember can't say the T word) enemies whooops! I meant friends. :puke:

And in other news: Did anyone see the ABC reporter take mutliple cheap shots at Fox news at the white house press briefing? I'm sure it has nothing to do with liberal bias that infests the majority of the news media. It must have been camera trickery cause all of the major media is fair and objective right? :puke:
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
And in other news: Did anyone see the ABC reporter take mutliple cheap shots at Fox news at the white house press briefing? I'm sure it has nothing to do with liberal bias that infests the majority of the news media. It must have been camera trickery cause all of the major media is fair and objective right? :puke:[/QUOTE]

Here come the "there isn't a liberal bias, you have "Faux" news!" responses!

Oh, we have a lone cable network as opposed to three national networks? THE HORRIBLE BIAS!
 
Crying about the liberal media is getting old.
You have CNN, FOX, and ABC.

If you want the other networks to worship republicans and jesus please read the following:
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[quote name='Quackzilla']You have ABC.
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You might wanna recheck their slant there, kitten killer.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Crying about the liberal media is getting old.
You have CNN, FOX, and ABC.
[/QUOTE]

Second'd

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias? You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?

Even if there was a liberal media bias then it hasn't made much of a difference lately. Hell, you won both the house, the senate, the presidency, and soon the freakin supreme court. So obviously if there is a bias then it isn't making the slightest difference when it comes to politics.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Second'd

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias? You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?

Even if there was a liberal media bias then it hasn't made much of a difference lately. Hell, you won both the house, the senate, the presidency, and soon the freakin supreme court. So obviously if there is a bias then it isn't making the slightest difference when it comes to politics.[/QUOTE]

Because we all know talk radio is as popular and influential as all three major national television networks.
 
[quote name='Rich']Because we all know talk radio is as popular and influential as all three major national television networks.[/QUOTE]


Way to go on reading past the first 2 sentences! Let's show you my point in another way:

proposed liberal media bias = obviously not affecting politics
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Way to go on reading past the first 2 sentences! Let's show you my point in another way:

proposed liberal media bias = obviously not affecting politics[/QUOTE]

Thank god.
 
[quote name='Rich']Thank god.[/QUOTE]


Ok so if you acknowledge that my assertion about the liberal bias have no affect then why are you freaking bitching about it?
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Second'd

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias? You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?[/QUOTE]

Come on now RVB, most of the media are liberal. It shows up well in how they vote. Go and find any poll of the media and you'll find that like 90 percent of them voted for the Democrat. And yes, I do hear Democrats bitching about talk radio, so much that they have tried to start liberal talk radio shows in several instances.

Quackzilla: go on living in your dream world where CNN and ABC have a conservative bias. Eventually reality will set in that these networks are stocked with liberals.

And the London bombers were terrorists, no ifs ands or buts about it.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']
And the London bombers were terrorists, no ifs ands or buts about it.[/QUOTE]

Freedom fighters.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Ok so if you acknowledge that my assertion about the liberal bias have no affect then why are you freaking bitching about it?[/QUOTE]

Because it does have an affect--just not enough to make a difference. Most of the country was smart enough to not vote for Kerry.

And I'll bitch about the liberal media as long as the left bitches about Fox news.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Come on now RVB, most of the media are liberal. It shows up well in how they vote. Go and find any poll of the media and you'll find that like 90 percent of them voted for the Democrat. And yes, I do hear Democrats bitching about talk radio, so much that they have tried to start liberal talk radio shows in several instances.

Quackzilla: go on living in your dream world where CNN and ABC have a conservative bias. Eventually reality will set in that these networks are stocked with liberals.

And the London bombers were terrorists, no ifs ands or buts about it.[/QUOTE]


Let me clarify, my issue is with people (republicans) bitching about a liberal media bias that quite obviously has no affect on the current political situation given that the republicans control everything.

As far as this article in particular, I could care less what the BBC calls them. Anyone who attacks innocent civilians is a terrorist, IMO.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Come on now RVB, most of the media are liberal. It shows up well in how they vote. Go and find any poll of the media and you'll find that like 90 percent of them voted for the Democrat. [/QUOTE]
That's because in order to become a jounalist you have to grade school, high school, and college, and you have to pass all three.
 
[quote name='Rich']Because it does have an affect--just not enough to make a difference. Most of the country was smart enough to not vote for Kerry.

And I'll bitch about the liberal media as long as the left bitches about Fox news.[/QUOTE]

Any amount of media and/or propaganda couldn't have changed the blatant fact that Kerry was a horrible candidate and not worthy of being president. Mayor of a small town, maybe, but not president.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']That's because in order to become a jounalist you have to grade school, high school, and college, and you have to pass all three.[/QUOTE]

Hardy har har. You're so clever. Besides, politics usually requires more education--look how that worked out



[quote name='RVB']Any amount of media and/or propaganda couldn't have changed the blatant fact that Kerry was a horrible candidate and not worthy of being president. Mayor of a small town, maybe, but not president.[/quote]

Thank god. Had any normal Democrat ran, they would have received my vote.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']That's because in order to become a jounalist you have to grade school, high school, and college, and you have to pass all three.[/QUOTE]

How long did it take you to think that one up? Are you going to troll this board forever with your "oh snap" tripe?
 
Quackzilla is inept at putting together responses that involve more than three sentences.

To him that is the height of intellectual debate so be kind, be gentle and realize he's just not that bright and tortures small animals for fun.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']How long did it take you to think that one up? Are you going to troll this board forever with your "oh snap" tripe?[/QUOTE]

A survey has proven that the Bill O'Reilly audience is less educated then the "Daily Show" audience. Liberals draw a smarter crowd, even when they're playing for laughs.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservative.
- J.S. Mill
 
I thought kerry was a poor candidate, but I thought he would have been a very good president. He just isn't good at doing the things needed to get votes.

Though in many cases the saying "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" is accurate. Many acts of terrorism are a means to an end, not the end in and of itself. Things like 9/11 and london are obviously committed by terrorists, but it's usually more of a gray line when it comes to fights for independence and such, where it's being used as a military tactic. But, at the same time, christians who bomb clinics and such are rarely referred to as terrorists, never in the media, even though they deserve that term. When everyone, not just muslims, can earn the term terrorist then you have a point.
 
Waitaminute. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the "liberal media" was an American phenomenon. So why are people discussing the alleged political leanings of a British media company!?!?! Does Roger Ailes have to go over there and "fair and balance" the shit out of the Brits now?

The "Fox News is alright because the rest of the media is liberal" argument is just fucking insipid beyond belief. Consider the trifecta of genius that came out of Fox last week (John Gibson expressing his desires to see Paris blown up on the air; Brit Hume admitting his first reaction to the London Bombings was "Hmmm, time to buy."; and Brian Kilmeade's suggestion that the bombings worked "to the Western World's advantage.").

Think about that. You know where John Gibson, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and all the other Fox News personalities stand politically. Have you ever heard Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Tim Russert, Brian Williams, Peter Jennings, the other guy who looks like Peter Jennings (EDIT: Sam Donaldson), or fucking *anybody* on a channel other than Fox express such nuanced fucking ignorance? Wouldn't you all crash the dopshit Free Republic servers if Dan Rather said on air that he'd love to see another terrorist attack? You're goddamn right you would, since you assholes got him to step down (and in the meantime, brilliantly sidestep the fact that nobody ever denied that Bush shirked his nat'l guard duty).

John Gibson publicly expressed his desire for a terrorist attack to happen, twice if you count his remarks on O'Reilly's radio show, and you fucking jackoffs want to call it "tit-for-tat?" My fucking ass.

Go watch "Democracy Now!" and see the pitiful reality of what the "liberal" media truly is. The rest are pretenders to the (admittedly rackety and kinda small) throne, and NO DEFENDER OF AMERICAN-STYLE CORPORATISM CAN, DE FACTO, BE CONSIDERED "LIBERAL."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Waitaminute. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the "liberal media" was an American phenomenon. So why are people discussing the alleged political leanings of a British media company!?!?! Does Roger Ailes have to go over there and "fair and balance" the shit out of the Brits now?

The "Fox News is alright because the rest of the media is liberal" argument is just fucking insipid beyond belief. Consider the trifecta of genius that came out of Fox last week (John Gibson expressing his desires to see Paris blown up on the air; Brit Hume admitting his first reaction to the London Bombings was "Hmmm, time to buy."; and Brian Kilmeade's suggestion that the bombings worked "to the Western World's advantage.").

Think about that. You know where John Gibson, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and all the other Fox News personalities stand politically. Have you ever heard Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Tim Russert, Brian Williams, Peter Jennings, the other guy who looks like Peter Jennings (EDIT: Sam Donaldson), or fucking *anybody* on a channel other than Fox express such nuanced fucking ignorance? Wouldn't you all crash the dopshit Free Republic servers if Dan Rather said on air that he'd love to see another terrorist attack? You're goddamn right you would, since you assholes got him to step down (and in the meantime, brilliantly sidestep the fact that nobody ever denied that Bush shirked his nat'l guard duty).

John Gibson publicly expressed his desire for a terrorist attack to happen, twice if you count his remarks on O'Reilly's radio show, and you fucking jackoffs want to call it "tit-for-tat?" My fucking ass.

Go watch "Democracy Now!" and see the pitiful reality of what the "liberal" media truly is. The rest are pretenders to the (admittedly rackety and kinda small) throne, and NO DEFENDER OF AMERICAN-STYLE CORPORATISM CAN, DE FACTO, BE CONSIDERED "LIBERAL."[/QUOTE]

I like this rant. I especially like this rant because NOONE is defending Fox news. I just find the Fox news bashing tiresome and stupid with all the liberal bias out there.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Were we having a contest to see how many fucks we could get in one post? Did I miss this contest?[/QUOTE]

:lol:

You're apparently not from a very big city.
I can't go two sentences without saying fuck, and i blame NY society
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Were we having a contest to see how many fucks we could get in one post? Did I miss this contest?[/QUOTE]

Four-letter words are all the rage nowadays. They don't even have any effect anymore since people use them in regular conversation. You hear people exclaiming "fuck!" and "Shit!" all the time, not just in an extraordinary circumstance. Go to a high school sometime and you'll hear plenty. It's unfortunate that our society has become so tolerant of constant swearing.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Second'd

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias? You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?

Even if there was a liberal media bias then it hasn't made much of a difference lately. Hell, you won both the house, the senate, the presidency, and soon the freakin supreme court. So obviously if there is a bias then it isn't making the slightest difference when it comes to politics.[/QUOTE]

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias?
As long as it exists and hides under the guise of objectivity.

You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?
You must be deaf or can't understand english because they do it every day, whenever they get a chance. The even started a liberal radio station to bitch about it. And I don't think liberals can go a day without bashing Fox news. Get a clue!

Even if there was a liberal media bias then it hasn't made much of a difference lately. Hell, you won both the house, the senate, the presidency, and soon the freakin supreme court. So obviously if there is a bias then it isn't making the slightest difference when it comes to politics.
Oh, but it does. The reason dems have lost all power is exactly because of the liberal bias and ideology that gets spewed by them. Reps are winning and will continue to win because of idiots like Dean and ridiculous reports that won't call a terrorist a terrorist. Do you think the majority of Americans want to make sure our islamic baby killer enemies are appeased and comforted when they get talked about on the news??

Liberalism has made a big difference lately - just look and see who has been president for the past two terms.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I don't think liberals can go a day without bashing Fox news.[/QUOTE]

The same could be said of right-wings and the liberal media.

Not trying to be clever. It's the truth.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Were we having a contest to see how many fucks we could get in one post? Did I miss this contest?[/QUOTE]

When did you become a card-carrying member of the "family values" coalition? Your propensity to delve into exceptionally vulgar and graphic descriptions of "salad tossing" renders your argument here moot at best, and laughably pitiful at worst.

I don't know if you can find a post I've made that doesn't include "fuck" in it at least 4 times. If so, it's the exception that proves the rule. We've bantered back and forth for months, so why focus on it now?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Four-letter words are all the rage nowadays. They don't even have any effect anymore since people use them in regular conversation. You hear people exclaiming "fuck!" and "Shit!" all the time, not just in an extraordinary circumstance. Go to a high school sometime and you'll hear plenty. It's unfortunate that our society has become so tolerant of constant swearing.[/QUOTE]

Hide the bong, dad's home!
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Quackzilla is inept at putting together responses that involve more than three sentences.

To him that is the height of intellectual debate so be kind, be gentle and realize he's just not that bright and tortures small animals for fun.[/QUOTE]
Irony anyone? :)
 
[quote name='camoor']A survey has proven that the Bill O'Reilly audience is less educated then the "Daily Show" audience. Liberals draw a smarter crowd, even when they're playing for laughs.

[/QUOTE]

I know of this supposed survey. The results are correct, but your angle on it is slanted.

The survey showed that the viewers of a satirical news program were usually more informed on the issues than someone who just watched the regular news.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']When I clicked on this topic, I thought the "T word" was going to be "Treason" for Karl Rove.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

It's hard not to bash Faux News when they have conservative idiots on there like John Gibson saying that Rove deserves a medal for outing Plame:

http://www.oliverwillis.com/taxonomy/page/or/46

(video included)

Like they said, these people are a danger to this country. Seriously, you right-wing apologists. How can you seriously defend this treason?
 
Man, between wanting to give someone a medal for committing treason and expressing his desire to see another terrorist attack happen, I think people need to start demanding that Fox fire this asshole.
 
[quote name='Derwood43']I know of this supposed survey. The results are correct, but your angle on it is slanted.

The survey showed that the viewers of a satirical news program were usually more informed on the issues than someone who just watched the regular news.[/QUOTE]

O'Reilly is as much 'regular news' as The Daily Show is. That is, to say, it isn't.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
I just want to thank all you liberal idiots for wanting to comfort the hearts and calm the minds of our islamic militant (remember can't say the T word) enemies whooops! I meant friends. [/QUOTE]

Another example of trying to group everyone together incorrectly. I believe you meant to make fun of the BBC, not all liberals? You don't see that crap on the news networks here, and I agree that decision (not calling them terrorists) is bullshit.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Come on now RVB, most of the media are liberal. It shows up well in how they vote. Go and find any poll of the media and you'll find that like 90 percent of them voted for the Democrat.
[/QUOTE]

oh my god the usual tripe rears its ugly head.

Yes a majority of journalists voted democrat. However, Democrat and liberal are not synonymous. In fact, many liberals are just as appalled by the Dems . Secondly, you are presuming that journalists can't do their job because of how they vote. Ridiculous. Does your politics make it impossible to do YOUR job correctly. Much of "news" today is neither left or right but pap that has no politics.

Finally, you completely ignoring that most editors and media owners (you know the guys with the final say) are largely conservative. In fact, locally the owner of the "liberal" paper made, yes made the paper endorse Bush over the objections of the editoral board.

Leave the cliches for another board.
 
Its so easy to slap a label like "Liberal", "Conservative", or "Waffler" on something and just discount it. You might as well just replace those words with "Asshole" or "fuckstick" as labels like this are meaningless.

This is a basic, yet effective political strategy (as we've seen recently) that allows people to easily ignore "the other side" and not have to do any critical thinking of their own.

Oh, and here's a major newsflash....99% of news programs are biased...towards making money.

Anyone remember this little episode?
another link: http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/courses/geog100/ITT-Akre.htm
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Second'd

How long are we going to listen to this whining about a liberal media bias? You don't hear democrats bitching all the time about the conservative talk radio bias, do you?

Even if there was a liberal media bias then it hasn't made much of a difference lately. Hell, you won both the house, the senate, the presidency, and soon the freakin supreme court. So obviously if there is a bias then it isn't making the slightest difference when it comes to politics.[/QUOTE]

they already have control of the Supreme Court, its just they were too stupid to find lackey judges who would tow the party line
 
[quote name='usickenme']oh my god the usual tripe rears its ugly head.

Yes a majority of journalists voted democrat. However, Democrat and liberal are not synonymous. In fact, many liberals are just as appalled by the Dems . Secondly, you are presuming that journalists can't do their job because of how they vote. Ridiculous. Does your politics make it impossible to do YOUR job correctly. Much of "news" today is neither left or right but pap that has no politics.

Finally, you completely ignoring that most editors and media owners (you know the guys with the final say) are largely conservative. In fact, locally the owner of the "liberal" paper made, yes made the paper endorse Bush over the objections of the editoral board.

Leave the cliches for another board.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much for stuffing so many words in my mouth. I never said journalists couldn't do their job because they are liberal/Democrat. That is as stupid as saying conservative/Republican journalists can't do their job. I simply pointed out the fact that the vast majority of the media has voted Democrat, thus making attempts to fashion rhetoric to the effect of "conservative media bias" laughable. Leave your distortions for another board.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Thank you very much for stuffing so many words in my mouth. I never said journalists couldn't do their job because they are liberal/Democrat. That is as stupid as saying conservative/Republican journalists can't do their job. I simply pointed out the fact that the vast majority of the media has voted Democrat, thus making attempts to fashion rhetoric to the effect of "conservative media bias" laughable. Leave your distortions for another board.[/QUOTE]

you are still way off. Because the media is so much more than print journalists which is what your basing the liberalness of the "media" on (or else site your source). Also because a majority of the journalists vote democrat doesn't negate the fact that there are organizations that DO practice a conservative media bias.

There is zero correlation between the two.

as for distortions..define your terms accurately. Then you can talk.
 
[quote name='usickenme']you are still way off. Because the media is so much more than print journalists which is what your basing the liberalness of the "media" on (or else site your source). Also because a majority of the journalists vote democrat doesn't negate the fact that there are organizations that DO practice a conservative media bias.

There is zero correlation between the two.

as for distortions..define your terms accurately. Then you can talk.[/QUOTE]

You clearly distorted what I said, or I could use what I used in the last post, put words in my mouth.
 
I love how the BBC doing something stupid somehow indicates the ideology (sp?) of the entire news media. Anecdotal evidence not backed up by any hard research or numbers is fun AND educational!!
 
British people don't want terrorists to become an enigma, they see how the USA and Russia have been devastated by terrorism and how their leaders took advantage of the situations and capitalized on the fear to gain political ground and reduce their citizens' freedoms. (Just like communism during the cold war in the US)

They win when we accept defeat, and the British are refusing to even aknowledge that they were affected by the attacks.There was no national day off, there was no mourning period, the vast majority of people inLondon just resumed their lives as if nothing had happened.

9/11 was a victory for the terrorists, 7/7 was a defeat.
 
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