The official "I Hate Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles" topic

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Yes, this is a rant.

First, I am not a hardcore FF fan. I can't see anyone being a hardcore FF fan. The fact is that the NES/SNES FF games, PS1/PS2 FF games and the new GCN game are very different.

Numbered FF games (i.e. VII VIII X whatever) play out like most people conceive FF gameplay... you wander around or go to wherever your quest directs you to go and boom you get hit by a random battle.

FF Tactics gameplay is very strategic.. turnbased battle system for your party, allowing you to move on the gameboard as well. Think Warhammer or something.. I dunno. Most of you have played FFT or FFTA sometime and get the gist of it.

FF Crystal Chronicles is simply Gauntlet in a FF shell. You run around and fight shit in real time.

Now to the point of this rant. I hate Gauntlet, so that certainly doesnt help, but I thought I would give it a shot when my friend bought FF:CC and a flame GBASP (quite spiffy I might add). The defend and attack system is really weak, you have to pull a trigger to switch between the two and I honestly thing that's just totally weak. The combat is better than Gauntlet... Square realizes that just whacking something until it dies isnt a good thing. Thats where defense comes in, which is virtually non existant because its takes so fucking long for you to simply put your damn shield up. It's like, wait for attack to end, click left trigger, wait for Defense to show up, hold A. Too much. I mean couldn't they have assigned it to R trigger or X for single player or something? Shit!

Anyways, I have to disagree with a certain post named "Final Fantasy Addicts Rejoice" as I would have to say it is more along the lines of Final Fantasy Fanboys and/or Gauntlet Addicts Rejoice.

My 2c.
 
[quote name='redgopher'][quote name='Firebrand']I just realized something. I hate message boards.[/quote]

And you're here.... why?[/quote]

He's here just for the deals! Dur. :roll:
 
Ever play Final Fantasy Mystic Quest? If not, then you dont realize that Final Fantasy games can take other turns from the original games (I never played the Gameboy ones but I think those are different-ish). Just enjoy the game for what it is. An incredibly well done and fun multiplayer Zelda combined with hack and slash fighting game.
 
So its bad Square decided to take a chance and produce something unique compared to the final fantasy drivel they've been pumping out for the last two years?

I hate Square. I'll gladly admit it, but Crystal Chronicles...I enjoy. Why? Because rather than insulting my intelligence with boring, generic storylines with uninteresting fan service characters...they decide to give me something I can play rather than watching hours and hours of in-game cinema sequences.
 
[quote name='proto879']god, when is square gonna make the next "good" ff rpg....[/quote]
When they release a remake of 4 and 6 on the Gameboy advance. I agree that this game is different but I've played it with three of my buddies and nothing can take away the joy of Yelling at one of them for not healing the party during a boss fight!!!
 
yeah, I played the game and it is WAY better than I thought. I thought it would be boring too, but so far I like it.
 
[quote name='evilomar'][quote name='proto879']god, when is square gonna make the next "good" ff rpg....[/quote]
When they release a remake of 4 and 6 on the Gameboy advance. I agree that this game is different but I've played it with three of my buddies and nothing can take away the joy of Yelling at one of them for not healing the party during a boss fight!!![/quote]


This is it right here!! This is why the game is so so fun...
I wish I was playing right now!
 
FF: MQ and the GB FF's (FFL's) are not technically "official" FF games, they were simply renamed as such in North America to convince FF lovers to buy them. The GB games were actually the first game in the SaGa series, which has now gone through several iterations on various systems (Romancing, Frontier, Unlimited).
 
Also, the GB title FFA was actually the original Seiken Densetsu, the second game of which series is known as Secret of Mana in North America. This game, of course, was recently re-made as Sword of Mana for GBA.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='redgopher'][quote name='Firebrand']I just realized something. I hate message boards.[/quote]

And you're here.... why?[/quote]

He's here just for the deals! Dur. :roll:[/quote]

Come for the deals, stay for the migrane inducing banter. Don't miss the hourly pwning floorshow!!
 
[quote name='terribledeli']So its bad Square decided to take a chance and produce something unique compared to the final fantasy drivel they've been pumping out for the last two years?

I hate Square. I'll gladly admit it, but Crystal Chronicles...I enjoy. Why? Because rather than insulting my intelligence with boring, generic storylines with uninteresting fan service characters...they decide to give me something I can play rather than watching hours and hours of in-game cinema sequences.[/quote]

OK i agree with the thesis of this statement, but not its platform. I love Squaresoft, but I've disliked the recent trend in FF (since VIII, basically, but I tolerate IX and X). I both enjoy and appreciate the bold change in Chronicles. Rather than engage in a solo experience, the game is strengthened by endorsing more people to participate in the experience with you. Granted, the sceptic will say this engenders a situation where you need to buy more Nintendo merchandice. So what. I already have a GBA and I have 3 friends with GBAs. HOLY CRAP WHAT A CONCEPT. Guess what? True nintendophiles will be halfway there in terms of hardware I bet. Don't want to try it? Don't like the idea? Don't get the game and wait for the next title. Chalk it up as a loss.

In that context Chronciles is fun, from personal experience I've witnessed this. Was it the best decision for Square to take? Perhaps not. Was it bold and inventive? Yes. I wouldn't recommend they do it again, but I'm glad they tried. I think the majority of negative reviews this game is getting is from a bunch of bellyachers who are resistant to change and the divergent path FF has taken. My favorte FF games are the old ones, and I feel their pain, but I refuse to shoot down a sustainable franchize simply because it tried to evolve, albeit with some caveat's to traditional fun. Keep churning out the same thing, and an eventual lapse in interest *will* occur.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']
Come for the deal, stay for the migrane inducing banter. Don't miss the hourly pwning floorshow!![/quote]

Now that's funny :lol:
Does anyone have any idea how well this game is selling so far? I am really curious to know so if anyone has any info, please post.

EDIT-Looks like it is selling very well. It is number 1 at amazon.com and on both eb and gamestop's best selling list.
 
I am thinking about buring this game eventually, but i know i will never play with anyone but myself. are any of you playing it single player and still enjoying it?
 
Ok, I am too lazy to read all these posts. I just want to say that FFCC kicks ass. The game is very fun, graphics are beautiful. Playing with the GBA-SP is fantastic.

The only part I don't like is going to towns since everyone want to go their own way. I wish that could have been split screen or viewed on the GBA.
 
[quote name='NintendoFanGirl'][quote name='JSweeney']
Come for the deal, stay for the migrane inducing banter. Don't miss the hourly pwning floorshow!![/quote]

Now that's funny :lol:
Does anyone have any idea how well this game is selling so far? I am really curious to know so if anyone has any info, please post.

EDIT-Looks like it is selling very well. It is number 1 at amazon.com and on both eb and gamestop's best selling list.[/quote]

Thank you, thank you. Don't forget to tip your waitress, ya cheapasses.
 
Look. The only fucking reason I started this thread is just to voice my OPINION on this game. I understand that it is not for everyone. And to the guy who said "You dont know that FF games can take a turn from the usual" then you really didn't read my post, now did you?

I love Tactics, I love the orig. FF series. FFCC just isn't my cup of tea.

THAT is what my post says. Please read what you're replying to instead of maybe one sentence that pisses you off. Even better, how about trying to read the post instead of just getting all fired up about the topic?

There are aspects of the game that I think are brilliant. The multiplayer with GBA thing is fantastic. Honestly the two things that turn me off of the game is the attack and defense system and the fact that it is a run-around-and-hack-shit-up type of game. The graphics are beautiful, the textures for the Mushroom Forest are particularly amazing. I'm sure the gameplay is fantastic if you're into this genre.

All I'm trying to say is that it is not for me, and probably not for some other people too. So don't get your panties in a wad just because I don't like the damn thing.
 
No problem, just don't get YOUR panties in a wad when you start a thread like this and people respond that they actually like a game.
 
[quote name='Ichabod']No problem, just don't get YOUR panties in a wad when you start a thread like this and people respond that they actually like a game.[/quote]

I love this. I totally love this shit.

What you don't seem to understand is the meaning of the word "opinion." I am not here to force people to hate this game and I certainly am not here to say everyone who likes this game is stupid. I am simply VOICING AN OPINION.
 
[quote name='kaw']Cool, I like Gauntlet and Final Fantasy... I guess this should be right up my alley.[/quote]

You'll probably love it, actually. It is a perfect blend of the two.
 
I understand they wanted to take a different direction with the game, great, make it so if you have 3 friends and a GBA the game is better, great, but dont make it so that if you dont have those the game sucks, that isnt great, :( the game might be really good but many people after hearing this wont buy it like me, so probably it wont sell very well and it'll be the last game like this. It might have been better to have it 50/50, if you have the extra stuff great, if not you still enjoy yourself, you cant expect everyone to have it or get it.....thats just my opinion. :wink:
 
[quote name='AvidWriter']I understand they wanted to take a different direction with the game, great, make it so if you have 3 friends and a GBA the game is better, great, but dont make it so that if you dont have those the game sucks, that isnt great, :( the game might be really good but many people after hearing this wont buy it like me, so probably it wont sell very well and it'll be the last game like this. It might have been better to have it 50/50, if you have the extra stuff great, if not you still enjoy yourself, you cant expect everyone to have it or get it.....thats just my opinion. :wink:[/quote]

Yeah the GBA connectivity thing is great, but there are some things you can do only if you're in single player, and.. well, those are just gone in multiplayer. No special perks. Aside from being able to split up jobs for your friends.. i.e. magic, melee and bucket bitch (which is really annoying, might i add... the moogle should have been included in multiplayer too, IMHO.. at least as an option) there really isn't anything too spectacular about the multiplayer gameplay.
 
[quote name='redgopher'][quote name='Ichabod']No problem, just don't get YOUR panties in a wad when you start a thread like this and people respond that they actually like a game.[/quote]

I love this. I totally love this shit.

What you don't seem to understand is the meaning of the word "opinion." I am not here to force people to hate this game and I certainly am not here to say everyone who likes this game is stupid. I am simply VOICING AN OPINION.[/quote]

and Im not forcing anyone to like it, I just voiced my OPINION too. Don't worry dude, I wasn't even responding to your post, just voicing my thoughts out of the context of anyone who blanketly writes the game off. I know you did not, as did no one else here.

in fact, I appreciate the constructive consideration this forum usually creates (if not the usual side joke or two ;)). Anyway, keep on trucking, and I hope Square gets a Red Mage back into the mix for the next game :lol:
 
Well....I have yet to try out FF:CC even though I've had it since yesterday. I might tomorrow. Anyone want to travel to Jacksonville, NC....uhm I'll pay for food... :)
 
Squaresoft is the snit, but i still cant forgive them adbanding Nintendo. also releasing kindom hearts on ps2? can there BEEE a better platform than Gamecube for Kindom hearts? FF:CC is great though, i play mostly single player and it's still quite fun. im on my 4th year.
 
[quote name='redgopher'][quote name='AvidWriter']I understand they wanted to take a different direction with the game, great, make it so if you have 3 friends and a GBA the game is better, great, but dont make it so that if you dont have those the game sucks, that isnt great, :( the game might be really good but many people after hearing this wont buy it like me, so probably it wont sell very well and it'll be the last game like this. It might have been better to have it 50/50, if you have the extra stuff great, if not you still enjoy yourself, you cant expect everyone to have it or get it.....thats just my opinion. :wink:[/quote]

Yeah the GBA connectivity thing is great, but there are some things you can do only if you're in single player, and.. well, those are just gone in multiplayer. No special perks. Aside from being able to split up jobs for your friends.. i.e. magic, melee and bucket bitch (which is really annoying, might i add... the moogle should have been included in multiplayer too, IMHO.. at least as an option) there really isn't anything too spectacular about the multiplayer gameplay.[/quote]

its kinda weird that u know so much about ffcc and you hate the game...
 
[quote name='rimsforsale']its kinda weird that u know so much about ffcc and you hate the game...[/quote]

You're right, it is. Most people who hate stuff usually know nothing about it. At least he gave the game more than a half hearted try before giving his opinion, as most do not.
 
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