The True History of the Democratic Racist Party

At this point, I have become aware to the amount of trolls commenting in this section. I will just continue posting/creating new topics relevant to this one and once again allow the viewers to decide for themselves on what is true.

 
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Somewhere in America a mental institution is missing a patient.

Should there be a RED ALERT that a crazy nut escapee has landed on a forum ranting about black and democrats.

 
Finger_Shocker said:
Somewhere in America a mental institution is missing a patient.

Should there be a RED ALERT that a crazy nut escapee has landed on a forum ranting about black and democrats.
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badum ching

http://russp.us/racism.htm

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

 
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iwarboY said:
http://russp.us/racism.htm

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are mentally incompetent.

If you think TODAYs Republicans care about minorities , the weak and the defenseless, you are a bigger fool then the nonsense you have posted so far.

If I was a right wing family value God thumping Republican you would be the poster boy that video games are dangerous to the mental development of children :)

 
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Finger_Shocker said:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are mentally incompetent.

If you think TODAYs Republicans care about minorities , the weak and the defenseless, you are a bigger fool then the nonsense you have posted so far.

If I was a right wing family value God thumping Republican you would be the poster boy that video games are dangerous to the mental development of children :)
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I think they would rather see these minorities do well, without assistance, and vote smart, rather then not do well and vote for the party providing the most assistance, because you know, they're dependent on it and have been for generations.

But please tell me how much the Democrats want to see the poor succeed?

 
Finger_Shocker said:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are mentally incompetent.

If you think TODAYs Republicans care about minorities , the weak and the defenseless, you are a bigger fool then the nonsense you have posted so far.

If I was a right wing family value God thumping Republican you would be the poster boy that video games are dangerous to the mental development of children :)
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I'll just allow your own words to bury and label you.

 
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I haven't been around in a while, but Doh told me my soapbox was getting used so I had to check in. I got video taped by concerned citizens at around 2 AM last night. We responded to a man down who turned out to be drunk. All the public safety personnel was white and the patient was a young black male who weighed about 145 pounds. He was stupid drunk and maybe on E. His brother and his brother's wife were on scene and had called because he had fallen down. The wife was super cool and stayed calm the entire time. She said the patient had been drinking in a club and had become belligerent. They were trying to take him home when he fell. We tried to assess him, but he grabbed my buddy's arm and refused to let go. A white cop tried to force him to let go and he started swinging at the cop. Badda bing, badda boom he was in cuffs and on the ground. The idiot continued to kick and fight so more officers arrived to help. His brother and sister in law continually tried to tell him to be calm with no effect. I had to help hold him down so the officers could restrain his legs. Bystanders stopped their vehicles and began videoing. The best part was when the idiot's brother began telling them to stop videoing because this was a private matter. The video takers and him got in quite an argument calling each other the N word. They said they were doing it for his "black ass." Finally a black policewoman arrived and was promptly spit on by the idiot. He was thrown in the back of the police car where he tried kicking out the windows. I was called a racist mf'er about a hundred times by the idiot. Afterwards I talked with his brother and his wife. They were calm, rational people that I felt very sorry for. Anyway, I'm sure the video looked like a bunch of white dudes roughing up a black guy. I can't wait for it to hit the news.;-)

I was becoming afraid that all these poor interactions that I was having with minorities might actually be making me a little racist.....but then I was in a store and ended up in line behind two extremely loud, fat, and obnoxious white trash chicks who were buying complete junk with their EBT card. I can honestly testify that I felt the same amount of loathing and disgust for those idiot white chicks as I do for any moocher that happens to be non white.;-)

 
GBAstar said:
I think they would rather see these minorities do well, without assistance, and vote smart, rather then not do well and vote for the party providing the most assistance, because you know, they're dependent on it and have been for generations.

But please tell me how much the Democrats want to see the poor succeed?
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I'm just waiting for the words "Welfare Queen" here.

Anyway, to the OP, no one denies that the Republicans did this in the past and were a NOBLE party in the past. I ask you why then they supported flaming racists like Strom Thurmond, Dixiecrats who would support efforts like segregation?

What about modern day issues like trying to deny Black peoples right to vote via voter fraud acts, requiring a DL and all other sorts of nonsense, official id to vote. It use to be if you just could show a copy of your utility bill you were set. These voter id acts are just voter suppression masquerading under another name. It's Jim Crow, the Poll tax with a shiny paint job done.

You need to look at LBJ's reforms and how they contributed to a major shift in the Democrat AND Republican party in where their ideologies stood.

Now, being a player in the Republican party is pandering to social Conservatives who think that Gay people are faggots and going to hell as well as abortion being the murder of a baby.

The Republican party is no longer the party of Barry Goldwater who thought those people were crazies, that women have a right to make a choice about their bodies. He later supported Gay rights.

Oh and yes they are crazy. If you're so fervently Christian that you will vote for someone anti-Abortion and Gay marriage 90% of the time while they try to gut disability, unemployment, Social Security and other social programs that you've paid into, you are out of your mind.

 
" like trying to deny Black peoples right to vote via voter fraud acts, requiring a DL and all other sorts of nonsense, official id to vote. "

To say black peoples are incapable and incompetent in obtaining a non-drivers license is racist. 

http://dmv.ny.gov/id-card/bget-non-driver-id-card-ndid

Government photo ID, the right way to vote, the only way to screen fraudulent voters.

 
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iwarboY said:
" like trying to deny Black peoples right to vote via voter fraud acts, requiring a DL and all other sorts of nonsense, official id to vote. "

To say black peoples are incapable and incompetent in obtaining a non-drivers license is racist.

http://dmv.ny.gov/id-card/bget-non-driver-id-card-ndid

Government photo ID, the right way to vote, the only way to screen fraudulent voters.
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They seem to be able to vote perfectly fine here in Ohio even with an ID required. Hell, they vote 100% for Obama and multiple times in some cases! (100% Obama, see some precincts in the Cleveland area; multiple times, see Cinci woman)

 
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iwarboY said:
To say black peoples are incapable and incompetent in obtaining a non-drivers license is racist.

http://dmv.ny.gov/id-card/bget-non-driver-id-card-ndid

Government photo ID, the right way to vote, the only way to screen fraudulent voters.
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Nah, it's just a fact that voting ID measures impact low-income voters much more significantly since they are less likely to have documentation, money for registration, transportation to state offices, time to obtain missing records, etc. This isn't actually a question. Since states passing these laws tend to have a higher percentage of minorities in their low-income populations, minority populations are more heavily affected. This also isn't a question. Of course, when you have advocates and people passing these laws admitting that the goal is disenfranchisement, there's even less of a question. None of this is stuff that can be waved away with "But aren't you the REAL racist?"

Also, fraudulent voting is insignificant. You don't change an election that way, you do it by having the election judges stuff the ballot box or "losing" boxes of votes from select districts or changing the results at the end level. No one is seriously going to affect an election by voting and getting back in line to vote again with a different name.

 
And yet, no one is concerned about the disenfranchisement of the poor communities by even more stringent identification requirements to fill out an I9 and get a job.
 
Very true... You need 2 forms of ID to get a job, so the bar is pretty low if you only need 1 ID to vote (which by the way is the same ID you need to drive, cash a check, etc.... even show to the police upon request.)

 
UncleBob said:
And yet, no one is concerned about the disenfranchisement of the poor communities by even more stringent identification requirements to fill out an I9 and get a job.
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Yeah, it's almost as though voting is a constitutionally protected right and the basis of our democracy or something. But talking about I-9's is a pretty good way of muddying the waters when you're trying to keep minorities from voting.

 
Syntax Error said:
Yeah, it's almost as though voting is a constitutionally protected right and the basis of our democracy or something. But talking about I-9's is a pretty good way of muddying the waters when you're trying to keep minorities from voting.
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It's his go to argument when this issue comes up.
 
Syntax Error said:
Yeah, it's almost as though voting is a constitutionally protected right and the basis of our democracy or something. But talking about I-9's is a pretty good way of muddying the waters when you're trying to keep minorities from voting.
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So... we, as a society, should be more concerned about letting poor individuals vote vs. helping them have a chance at a better life by getting a job? I don't know if I can get on board with that.
 
You can be as concerned or unconcerned about it as you like provided you understand that it has absolutely nothing to do with voting rights or the intentional disenfranchisement of minorities thereof.

 
So, what's your level of concern, then? Would you rather a poor, dinenfranchised minority be able to legally get a job that pays minimum wage and has other various labor/OSHA protections, or cast a worthless ballot that doesn't even actually count towards getting your choice elected (okay, granted, this only bapplies to the presidental election....)
 
One isn't the other and it's not a "pick one" situation.  I'm discussing laws about voting.  Voting is a constitutionally protected right.  Maybe you don't care if people's constitutional rights are being infringed upon.  That's cool.  Maybe you're actually in favor of making it harder for minorities to cast ballots.  That's pretty shitty of you but I guess it explains your desire to steer the conversation away from voting ID laws.
 

It's also pretty shitty of the GOP to be actively working to prevent people from voting for purely political reasons (not just minorities but low-income voters in general since they tend to vote Democratic) but, well, I guess that's just one more for the list.

 
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Syntax Error said:
Voting is a constitutionally protected right.
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You do realize, as far as the Federal constitution goes, this is a wholly incorrec statement, right? The Supreme Court ruled that US citizens have no constitutionally protected right to vote.

Maybe you don't care if people's constitutional rights are being infringed upon. That's cool.
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So... do you have an opinion on if it's infringing on someone's (actually) constitutionally protected right to bear arms forcing them to produce a photo ID when purchasing a firearm?
 
Syntax Error said:
About the right to vote
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That's a nice piece, and I pretty much agree with it - but, it falls flat in practice. As we've learned from Vs. over the years, the Supreme Court gets to decide the constitutionality of things and what they say goes and we plebs shouldn't question them.

To declare that the Supreme Court was incorrect in their ruling when they decided there was no constitutionally protected right to vote would follow that they can make bad decisions, should be challanged and just because they rule on something, doesn't mean the "losing" side should just shut up and take it. While I wholly agree with that, there are those on here who say I'm wrong. ;)

Sure. We can talk all about it (and employment verification) after discussing voter ID laws.
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I apologize. I thought we were capable of discussing more than one issue at a time.

For me, it's all tied in together. If the concern is about infringing on constitutionally protected rights, then we should be able to look at how we deal with similar requirements for other constitutionally protected rights. If the concern is how laws requriring IDs puts the poor and miniorities at a disadvantage, then we should be able to look at similar requirements that also put poor and minorities at a disadvantage. But that's just how I see it.

Voter ID laws are not something I have a strong issue against, as they generally get tied into programs that make getting state issued IDs easier (providing them for free, extending the expiration periods, etc.), which HELPS folks who want to try and make things better for themselves, as a photo ID is virtually required to get by (for example, getting a job that isn't some kind of shady off-the-books thing).
 
And while we're providing articles for each other.

http://www.acslaw.org/acsblog/does-the-us-constitution-guarantee-americans-an-affirmative-individual-right-to-vote

Okay, I know you really want to discuss voter ID laws and nothing else, but this is tangentially related - since the Supreme Court ruled, in plain terms, that there is no constitutionally-protected right to vote in the Federal Constitution, there has been a little talk about adding an amendment to the Federal Constitution to guarantee citizens the right to vote - yet there's been virtually no mainstream candidates that have made *any* effort to make this happen - including those who are against Voter ID laws on the grounds that they are an affront to our right to vote. Why do you think that no mainstream candidates have put any effort into supporting this?
 
If you did not pay federal income tax this year, then you don't get to vote. :wave: Why would I want people who make poor decisions in their personal lives to have a say in the direction our country goes? Ahhhhhhh, a man can dream.....

 
egofed said:
If you did not pay federal income tax this year, then you don't get to vote. :wave: Why would I want people who make poor decisions in their personal lives to have a say in the direction our country goes? Ahhhhhhh, a man can dream.....
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Why end there? Why not only let land owners vote? Obviously everyone would own land if they had the means and if they don't have the means then they obviously made poor decisions.

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GTFO, this is by far your most ridiculous post.
 
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RedvsBlue said:
Why end there? Why not only let land owners vote? Obviously everyone would own land if they had the means and if they don't have the means then they obviously made poor decisions.

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GTFO, this is by far your most ridiculous post.
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RedvsBlue said:
Why end there? Why not only let land owners vote? Obviously everyone would own land if they had the means and if they don't have the means then they obviously made poor decisions.

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GTFO, this is by far your most ridiculous post.
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I am fairly certain ego has topped this before.

 
So I only want people who actually contribute to have a say in what happens to our country.....utterly ridiculous! Of course Joe the crack dealer who has ten illigitimate kids who are all on gov't services and hasn't paid a dime in federal income tax in ten years should have the same vote as a law abiding, 40 hour a week, 39.5% yearly tax paying sucker. It makes perfect sense.;-)
 
egofed said:
So I only want people who actually contribute to have a say in what happens to our country.....utterly ridiculous! Of course Joe the crack dealer who has ten illigitimate kids who are all on gov't services and hasn't paid a dime in federal income tax in ten years should have the same vote as a law abiding, 40 hour a week, 39.5% yearly tax paying sucker. It makes perfect sense.;-)
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And what about retirees?
 
egofed said:
So I only want people who actually contribute to have a say in what happens to our country.....utterly ridiculous! Of course Joe the crack dealer who has ten illigitimate kids who are all on gov't services and hasn't paid a dime in federal income tax in ten years should have the same vote as a law abiding, 40 hour a week, 39.5% yearly tax paying sucker. It makes perfect sense.;-)
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Look up, not down, to see your real political enemies.

 
Its funny how status-quo / average Americans went from being extremely conservative until around the late 80s though the 90s railing against authority and tradition on the media, music etc and was widely accepted as progression.

Funny how now 00s-Present it has gone so far left, status-quo / average Americans are realizing how condescending and disingenuous the Liberal party when it comes to "protecting" or "aiding" specific groups of people.

We might have a Conservative revival among us.. 

 
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Have any evidence, love, other than a link to a youtube clip from some talk-radio-host-backed propaganda?

On the other hand, Bernie Sanders - a candidate who doesn't shy away from being called a "socialist" and tends to refer to himself as a "Democratic Socialist" (there are pretty sincere ideological differences there) - he's hanging tough in the Democratic primary.

Meanwhile, the GOP is headed by a tv guy, WWE superstar who most recently said that all Mexicans are rapists.

So, if you wanna peddle the idea that Democrats are the true racists - sigh. I just don't know why I bother. You're clearly just a fucking buffoon at worst, a troll at best.

 
mykevermin said:
Have any evidence, love, other than a link to a youtube clip from some talk-radio-host-backed propaganda?

On the other hand, Bernie Sanders - a candidate who doesn't shy away from being called a "socialist" and tends to refer to himself as a "Democratic Socialist" (there are pretty sincere ideological differences there) - he's hanging tough in the Democratic primary.

Meanwhile, the GOP is headed by a tv guy, WWE superstar who most recently said that all Mexicans are rapists.

So, if you wanna peddle the idea that Democrats are the true racists - sigh. I just don't know why I bother. You're clearly just a fucking buffoon at worst, a troll at best.
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Did you hear the ridiculous smear job that Matthews tried to paint on Sanders, that he's a Socialist like the USSR and Chinese ones. It's ridiculous when Bernie has said that he's a Socialist in the way the Scandanavian countries are Socialist.

I know a guy who supports Walker who said he supports Medicare for all as long as it's like Norway et al. but not like London's NHS.

Sure, some of you will hate Bernie no matter what but the truth is he's the true government reform we will see towards Crony Capitalism and he's a real friend to small business unlike "The Chamber Of Commerce".

 
mykevermin said:
Meanwhile, the GOP is headed by a tv guy, WWE superstar who most recently said that all Mexicans are rapists.

So, if you wanna peddle the idea that Democrats are the true racists - sigh. I just don't know why I bother. You're clearly just a fucking buffoon at worst, a troll at best.
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Do you have any evidence of this, love?

 
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/totally-accurate-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists

Donald Trump shouldn't apologize for his comments because he's in good company like the rest of the great American Job Creators. Don't you know how hard is it for them to keep their wealth if they have to follow job-killing labor laws? This country depends on rapists and drug dealers for food and maintaining our highways. We Americans better learn to suck it up and take that 12 cents an hour and work those 18 hour days. God bless Donald Trump's Rapists and Drug Dealers.

 
Should the Constitutionally protected right to bear arms be infringed by having background checks and ID? I say yes, but think that voting is just as important and should have verifications also. You can't pick only your sacred calf to protect. It is like the Republicans refusing to allow military cuts brought on by sequestration. They are fine with the welfare and education cuts, but don't touch my money maker..... :wall: I say cut it all like the plan intended.  WE are broke. A million dollars a minute added to our debt is what I heard yesterday. Screw the Dems and Repubs that got us here.

 
egofed said:
Should the Constitutionally protected right to bear arms be infringed by having background checks and ID? I say yes, but think that voting is just as important and should have verifications also. You can't pick only your sacred calf to protect. It is like the Republicans refusing to allow military cuts brought on by sequestration. They are fine with the welfare and education cuts, but don't touch my money maker..... :wall: I say cut it all like the plan intended. WE are broke. A million dollars a minute added to our debt is what I heard yesterday. Screw the Dems and Repubs that got us here.
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So why don't you run for office?
 
the only cognitive dissonance comes from the dumbasses who think that one half of ONLY the second amendment is above conditions. 

and please leave the "some folks" assumption to people who actually buy your bs

 
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usickenme said:
the only cognitive dissonance comes from the dumbasses who think that one half of ONLY the second amendment is above conditions.
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Are these the same dumb asses who believe there is a Constitutional Right to vote when the Supreme Court (who, as we've previously established here on CAG vs., gets to decide what is constitutional and what isn't) has, very clearly and with no mixed words, stated there is no such Constitutional Right? Meanwhile, the Supreme Court (again, this same one that gets to decide what is and isn't constitutional) decided in 2010 that individual citizens have the constitutional right to bear arms, unrelated to any military or militia requirements.

It's like the Supreme Court decisions only count when they're in favor of giving insurance companies billions of dollars.

 
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