These guys give asshole a new meaning

[quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

I fail to see how you can hope to prove your point about me.

These guys are assholes. They know that the species will die out, the government lawyers will not be able to effectively argue against their million-dollar "expert witnesses", and their efforts will go to earning the corn industry a few extra bucks and your tostitos will cost $2.23 instead of $2.26, so who cares?

It's just the way a group like this works.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']You are free to form your own group to counter them. It IS America, after all...[/quote]

Except that as a citizen I'm not a huge corporate trade association with millions to spend on trial lawyers who know how to manipulate judges/juries; or lobbyists with "pull" in DC. Greenpeace is pretty cool, but they really don't have the kind of dough to play these games. The most I can do is vote for enviornmentally-friendly politicians, and we all know that these days being green doesn't translate into political success.

Selling out the enviornment to earn a few extra dollars is not cool, any way you slice it.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

Natural selection is one thing, deciding to pave over areas is not natural selection. Even if evolution happened instantly, taking away the environment would leave them no where to go. And polluting and ruining their environment has nothing to do with natural selection.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

obviously u dont know natural selection, having humans destroy your habitat and an animal not adapting to that is not natural selection. It called rats and cockroaches will be the only things left under your natural selection. Adapting takes so much time in animals that take longer to breed. Thats why people study fruit flies because their life cycle is so short. For animals that live for long period of time, they cant adapt as quickly.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

obviously u dont know natural selection, having humans destroy your habitat and an animal not adapting to that is not natural selection. It called rats and cockroaches will be the only things left under your natural selection. Adapting takes so much time in animals that take longer to breed. Thats why people study fruit flies because their life cycle is so short. For animals that live for long period of time, they cant adapt as quickly.[/quote]

Don't tell me, you took highschool biology 2 years ago. Good for you!

What happens when mother nature brings the next ice age, or earthquake? Or if an asteroid takes out 90% of the species on earth?

I'll tell you what happens, the strongest survive. That's natural selection. What are humans, unnatural? Didn't think so.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

obviously u dont know natural selection, having humans destroy your habitat and an animal not adapting to that is not natural selection. It called rats and cockroaches will be the only things left under your natural selection. Adapting takes so much time in animals that take longer to breed. Thats why people study fruit flies because their life cycle is so short. For animals that live for long period of time, they cant adapt as quickly.[/quote]

Don't tell me, you took highschool biology 2 years ago. Good for you!

What happens when mother nature brings the next ice age, or earthquake? Or if an asteroid takes out 90% of the species on earth?

I'll tell you what happens, the strongest survive. That's natural selection. What are humans, unnatural? Didn't think so.[/quote]

Well I'll agree with u that we are as destructive as an ice age, an earthquake, or an asteroid. We have the responsiblity to perserve life not to wipe it off the planet. We are def not the strongest, if shit goes nuclear only the cockroach will be left, so a tiny insect is the strongest so we would get wiped out through natural selection. Then again whats natural about a bulldozer destroying habitat.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Ikohn4ever'][quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='Quackzilla']They should be beaten and tortured, then slit their throats (but miss the jugular, don't want it to be fast).[/quote]


LOL, so it's okay to exterminate humans with counter-viewpoints to your own, but we need to save the animals that can't adapt to save themselves.

For two people who believe in natural selection and like to point out hypocracy, you two are shining examples of the latter.[/quote]

obviously u dont know natural selection, having humans destroy your habitat and an animal not adapting to that is not natural selection. It called rats and cockroaches will be the only things left under your natural selection. Adapting takes so much time in animals that take longer to breed. Thats why people study fruit flies because their life cycle is so short. For animals that live for long period of time, they cant adapt as quickly.[/quote]

Don't tell me, you took highschool biology 2 years ago. Good for you!

What happens when mother nature brings the next ice age, or earthquake? Or if an asteroid takes out 90% of the species on earth?

I'll tell you what happens, the strongest survive. That's natural selection. What are humans, unnatural? Didn't think so.[/quote]

Actually I would disagree.

Humans are a switching predator. Ask any biologist, switching predators are extremely destructive to any enviornment that they are set loose in. But humans short-circuit this destructive process by creating renewable resources of food, energy, and living enviornments. Our massive city/suburban structures, animal husbandry, etc.; these are artificial (artificial means man-made) and therefore many things about the way we live are not natural.

However we are also part animal and cannot help consuming more then we take, spreading parasitically over the earth. It doesn't have to be this way, but humanity better wake up before it is too late (we probably have a good deal of time before a total worldwide disaster, but it's already starting to affect our way of life)
 
[quote name='jmcc']So...shooting an animal: failure on their part to adapt?[/quote]

I guess, just like a species dying out because thair habitat was demolished to support an oil field.

Btw, oil fields aren't just an occasional drill platform wirh wildlife surrounding it as the government would like you to believe, the entire area needs to be cleared, there are distillation pools and towers, drilling platforms, storage, housing, trucks, and a ton of roads. All animals tresspassing on an oil field are shot.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']...All animals tresspassing on an oil field are shot.[/quote]

Oil is a renewable source, and in 10 billion years those animals will turn into oil. Wow, I guess Bush country really is full of progressive thinkers.
 
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