Times Square Bomb Aftermath

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Faisal Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Pakistan, was arrested late on Monday at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York as he tried to take a flight to Dubai, local and federal officials said.

Shahzad, 30, was due to appear in federal court later on Tuesday to face charges of "driving a car bomb into Times Square on the evening of May 1," officials said. Had the bomb detonated, many people could have died, experts said.

"He's admitted to buying the truck, putting the devices together, putting them in the truck, leaving the truck there and leaving the scene," the law enforcement source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"He's claimed to have acted alone. He did admit to all the charges, so to speak," the source said, adding that investigators were still looking into his activities during a recent trip to Pakistan.

If links were found between the failed Times Square bombing and Pakistan's Taliban, which claimed responsibility for it, Pakistan could come under renewed U.S. pressure to open risky new fronts against Islamic militants.

Pakistan vowed to help the U.S. investigation.

Shahzad, who received U.S. citizenship last year, recently visited Pakistan for about five months, returning to the United States in February, the source said.

"Based on our collective experience it's hard to really believe that this is something someone would do on their own. It seems hard to pull off alone. There's a lot we don't know yet," the source said.

HOUSE SEARCH

Shahzad is suspected of buying the 1993 Nissan sport utility vehicle used to carry the crude bomb, made of fuel and fireworks, into Times Square as the theatre and shopping area

was packed with people on a warm Saturday evening. Had the bomb detonated, many people could have died, officials said.

Authorities searched Shahzad's home in Bridgeport, Connecticut, the FBI said on Tuesday. An FBI spokeswoman did not say what authorities had found.

New Yorkers bore the brunt of the September 11 attacks by al Qaeda militants in 2001, and Saturday's scare was a reminder that the city of 8 million people is always under threat.

Emirates, the airline whose flight Shahzad had boarded in New York before being detained, said in a statement that three passengers were removed from the plane. CNN reported that two passengers were cleared and released.

"Full security procedures were activated including the deplaning of all passengers and a thorough screening of the aircraft, passengers and baggage," an Emirates spokesperson said in a statement.

"The intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder told an early morning news conference on the arrest.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama was notified of the arrest just after midnight by his counterterrorism chief, John Brennan, after being regularly updated during Monday on the investigation.

TALIBAN ANGLE

The Taliban in Pakistan said on Sunday it planted the bomb to avenge the killing in April of al Qaeda's two top leaders in Iraq as well as U.S. interference in Muslim countries.

Some officials voiced scepticism about the claim. But former CIA analyst Bruce Riedel, who last year oversaw an Obama administration strategy review on Afghanistan and Pakistan, cautioned against dismissing a Taliban role.

"They have said they want to attack inside the United States," he said before the arrest was announced, adding it was possible the incident involved "some Pakistani-American who has never built a car bomb before in his life but who is being coached either by phone or Internet."

Pakistan is an ally to the United States and other NATO countries fighting the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan but is also seen as a training ground for Islamist militants.

Saturday's failed bombing was the second significant plot in nine months targeting New York City. An Afghan immigrant, Najibullah Zazi, has pleaded guilty to plotting a suicide bombing campaign on Manhattan's subway system last September.

U.S. authorities disrupted that plot before Zazi and his accused accomplices were able to carry it out. Another Afghan-born man has pleaded guilty for his role in the plot.

Zazi admitted to receiving al Qaeda training in Pakistan.

Garry Hindle, head of security and counterterrorism at Britain's Royal United Services Institute think tank, said: "We've been saying for a long time that this type of incompetent attack is the trend. If it follows the pattern of previous incidents, we can expect to uncover an amount of prior overseas travel, instruction from trainers and a search for inspiration from radicalizers abroad."

(Additional reporting by Michelle Nichols in New York; Jeremy Pelofsky, Jeff Mason, JoAnne Allen and Will Dunham in Washington; and William Maclean in London; Editing by Frances Kerry)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6410CK20100504

I'm sure were all familiar with the story by now. What I'm wondering is what everyone thinks the backlash of this will be (if any). They've caught a muslim extremist and hes admitted to the plot.

More racial profiling? Scrunity on the FBI (he was on an international flight when the guy was arrested!)? Will the story fade into obscurity until the trial? I'll be interested in seeing how the cards fall on this one.
 
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This is twice now that we've gotten lucky because the terrorist screwed up. Our luck can only hold out for so long...
 
Oh, I forgot the Bloomberg quote...

BLOOMBERG: Home-grown, maybe a mentally deranged person or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something.

That's not going to go over well with the tea party, don't expect to hear that quote anymore.
 
A thought.

Whatever happened to stabbing somebody?

If you're pissed off enough to kill, you probably want to kill somebody specific. Why not do some old fashioned stalking, wait for an opening to the target and shove a knife in?

Killing random people with a bomb is so amateurish.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']A thought.

Whatever happened to stabbing somebody?

If you're pissed off enough to kill, you probably want to kill somebody specific. Why not do some old fashioned stalking, wait for an opening to the target and shove a knife in?

Killing random people with a bomb is so amateurish.[/QUOTE]


I was thinking coward...

But I don't think he got enough coaching... if this was the extreme variety kind, he would have stayed to make sure it went off.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Why not do some old fashioned stalking, wait for an opening to the target and shove a knife in?[/QUOTE]
You can never trust a knife kill. Lag spikes always dick it up.

Allegedly the dude that got caught is talking.
 
[quote name='speedracer']You can never trust a knife kill. Lag spikes always dick it up.

Allegedly the dude that got caught is talking.[/QUOTE]

WTF is a lag spike in a knife kill?

There are several places on a human where a thrust, twist and yank is fatal. Add a little feces or bacteria to the blade just to make things worse.
 
Just do what they do with guns and have mandatory background checks whenever you try to buy propane, gasoline, fireworks and vehicles. After all; it's the only way to keep everyone safe.

I'm surprised this guy didn't start off the bomb and just mash the gas and head for the crowd Farmer's Market style.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Craigslist is fucked and their "hands-off" policy is out the fuckin' window.[/QUOTE]

craigslist didnt cross my mind immediately, but i could see them getting a little rebuff from the feds. but how can you regulate them and not regulate other classifieds. the guy just as easily bought a used car with cash with a newspaper ad or another website.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn'] Add a little feces or bacteria to the blade just to make things worse.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, shove the knife up the victim's ass first.
 
Based on our collective experience it's hard to really believe that this is something someone would do on their own. It seems hard to pull off alone.


When you don't have the feelings of regret/remorse/consequences what's hard about driving a car full of explosive stuff and parking it in the center of town?

Hard part would be more about getting the right components of a bomb...
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']When you don't have the feelings of regret/remorse/consequences what's hard about driving a car full of explosive stuff and parking it in the center of town?

Hard part would be more about getting the right components of a bomb...[/QUOTE]

That would drive the government nuts if loners suddenly started appearing.
 
[quote name='Magehart']Just do what they do with guns and have mandatory background checks whenever you try to buy propane. After all; it's the only way to keep everyone safe.[/QUOTE]

Hank Hill just crapped his pants.
 
saw this screencap on digg

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You're trying way too hard RAMSTORIA. Cool, they were wrong.

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']More racial profiling? Scrunity on the FBI (he was on an international flight when the guy was arrested!)? Will the story fade into obscurity until the trial? I'll be interested in seeing how the cards fall on this one.[/QUOTE]

Sorry that's not racial profiling. That's following the bread crumb trial using our law enforcement.

As far as what was done after he was arrested, I'm gonna have to agree with my man Glenn Beck on this one:

Brian Kilmeade:“But he’s a threat to the country. That’s different,”

Beck responded, “So are a lot of citizens of the country. … We don’t shred the Constitution when it’s popular.”
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']saw this screencap on digg

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No "Tea Partier False Flag"?

Thank God I didn't bet on that one...
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']I thought terrorist attacks were supposed to stop when we put a Muslim in the Oval Office.[/QUOTE]

He hasn't enacted Sharia law yet so they are still pissed.
 
[quote name='speedracer']Epic win for the FBI catching the guy as his plane is taxiing to the runway.[/QUOTE]

ehhhhh. it makes for great copy, like some John McClane shit went down. But he was on his way to the UAE, right? He totally would have been turned right the fuck around and flown back to the US.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']ehhhhh. it makes for great copy, like some John McClane shit went down. But he was on his way to the UAE, right? He totally would have been turned right the fuck around and flown back to the US.[/QUOTE]
fuck you man. Lemme pretend we just got this shit awesomely right. :D
 
[quote name='speedracer']fuck you man. Lemme pretend we just got this shit awesomely right. :D[/QUOTE]

No way, man - the government totally responded in a super quick fashion, particularly by our expectations. Don't let me take that away, because it's very much true.

But this certainly wasn't our last opportunity to detain him.
 
boy I sure was pissed when I found out that the suspect didn't turn out to be a white male in his 40's
 
[quote name='xxDOYLExx']the media is racist[/QUOTE]

No. How did the bomber get caught?

Was it because he changed his clothes right in front of a camera?

What is the harm with walking a few miles away and changing your clothes in a bathroom?

Surely somebody Muslim knows about the Laughing Man.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']No way, man - the government totally responded in a super quick fashion, particularly by our expectations. Don't let me take that away, because it's very much true.

But this certainly wasn't our last opportunity to detain him.[/QUOTE]

at the same time it shows the problems with some of our systems. he was added to the no fly list the day of his flight well before he checked in. but air dubai hadnt received the updated no fly list, so he wasnt flagged when he was checked in. if the guy had gone straight from time square to the jfk hed of been home free.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']at the same time it shows the problems with some of our systems. he was added to the no fly list the day of his flight well before he checked in. but air dubai hadnt received the updated no fly list, so he wasnt flagged when he was checked in. if the guy had gone straight from time square to the jfk hed of been home free.[/QUOTE]

This is indeed true. Also while he was monitored for a period of time following being identified, I believe I read somewhere that authorities 'lost' him for several hours - during the key time he was at the airport.

So it's not perfect, and the no-fly list thing is a huge whiff on the FBI's part - but some people are really proud of earning a B grade. Some people's jaws hit the floor seeing a federal gov't agency operate so efficiently.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']A thought.

Whatever happened to stabbing somebody?

If you're pissed off enough to kill, you probably want to kill somebody specific. Why not do some old fashioned stalking, wait for an opening to the target and shove a knife in?

Killing random people with a bomb is so amateurish.[/QUOTE]

Do it the proper way. Find them in a public place, face them, shout YOU MUST DIE! then charge. Don't use a knife, use something bigger, but not a gun, something melee.
 
Surprised (and frankly happy) to see that no one on here is taking the McCain Lieberman Graham approach to this and saying 'fuck Miranda rights and the constitution, we'll throw him into this category without any kind of trial whatsoever.'

Frankly, it's a little scary that Lieberman is advocating something so extreme like this.

“I’m now putting together legislation to amend that to [specify that] any individual American citizen who is found to be involved in a foreign terrorist organization, as defined by the Department of State, would be deprived of their citizenship rights,” Lieberman said Tuesday.

Kinda scary. If it goes through, some gov't dude can say 'you're a terrorist', no more citizenship, off to gitmo with you. Bye-bye due process!
 
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