United Flight 93

MrFriday18

MrFriday18

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Do you guys believe United Flight 93 which was brought down over PENN on 9/11, was shot down or was purposely crashed by brave soles on that flight. I believe deeply that it was shot down, even our own secretary of defense carelessly said it was shot down last month. I remember hearing it was shot down on 9/11 but then on after this hero thingy came up that passengers crashed the plane, which i think is BS. Eye witnesses to the plane crash have said they saw a government looking plane fly over the wreck shortly after it was brought down. Also it would be almost impossible for a military plane to not intercept the jet, an F-16 Can fly from Washington DC to NYC in around 16-20 minutes. Also the government has remained very quiet about the incident and has never come out with a full-fledged report into the wreck making me to believe it was shot down. Even if it was shot down which I do believe it was, it was the correct decision and also there could be many reasons why the government would keep this secret. People would criticize the Bush admin. if they shot down a plane and people would even be more terrified to fly so this could be a reason why it has been kept such a secret. That just my 2 cents.



PS: I will fix any grammar issues and make paragraphs.
 
Yes i do stand behind our President, but i have always believed sinse day one that it was shot down. Also it could have been any president and it would have still been a conspiracy. Not bashing the president on this one, b.c i think it was the right decision if it was indeed shot down.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']Yes i do stand behind our President, but i have always believed sinse day one that it was shot down. Also it could have been any president and it would have still been a conspiracy. Not bashing the president on this one, b.c i think it was the right decision if it was indeed shot down.[/quote]

So you think the administration lied to you and you've got complete confidence in them? orwellian. :?
 
No not lied, b/c they have never really stood behind any theory they just try to stay away from the topic. Plus i'm not against the bush admin in away and i can see why the do not want to talk about. Don't know if that is a good answer to give but I would not call it lying.
 
From the same article you just posted:

A Pentagon spokesman insists Rumsfeld has not changed his opinion that the plane crashed as the result of an onboard struggle between passengers and terrorists.

If it's a conspiracy then the white house is in on it.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?
 
"United Flight 93 shot down/ or crashed
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ANyways I think that everything was so fucked up that day it doesn't matter.

I was watching the History Channel special on the 9-11 "Report". It took forever for the pilots of the planes to get in the air, and then they went 160 miles over the ocean. Why would they be going over the ocean when the terrorist planes are over land? Because they thought the fucking Russians were attacking! The Russians!!!

Sorry for the rant, but I don't care about the plane. In this case I like the idea that they brought it down.

They are dead anyways, whats the difference?
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.[/quote]

Yes, I'd just like him to consider his position, oh well.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.[/quote]

mmmmmm......faith in the government, that the'll make everything good for everyone with their master plan..........kinda like socialism !
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.[/quote]

mmmmmm......faith in the government, that the'll make everything good for everyone with their master plan..........kinda like socialism ![/quote]

Wow who didn't see that sad jab a mile away. :roll:
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.[/quote]

mmmmmm......faith in the government, that the'll make everything good for everyone with their master plan..........kinda like socialism ![/quote]

Wow who didn't see that sad jab a mile away. :roll:[/quote]

Hey what happens if Im wrong and it wasn't shot down and the administation is telling the truth. Also if you knew the shit that was going on in this country concerning Homeland Security, most people probably would have moved to Cananda or something. Also the Bush adminsitration never even talks about the topic so, what is there position no one noes. Also a top official in the pentegon is not under the Bush Administation he technically is just some goverment employee. Also I told you Zion that this does not change my opinion of the bush admin none the less. Now if this isn't good enough for you I don't know what is. Whatever I write you will still think the bush adim. lied and i am their lover so why do you want me to respond, when you just think the same darn thing anyways.
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']

Hey what happens if Im wrong and it wasn't shot down and the administation is telling the truth. Also if you knew the shit that was going on in this country concerning Homeland Security, most people probably would have moved to Cananda or something. Also the Bush adminsitration never even talks about the topic so, what is there position no one noes. Also a top official in the pentegon is not under the Bush Administation he technically is just some goverment employee. Also I told you Zion that this does not change my opinion of the bush admin none the less. Now if this isn't good enough for you I don't know what is. Whatever I write you will still think the bush adim. lied and i am their lover so why do you want me to respond, when you just think the same darn thing anyways.[/quote]

Huh?
 
[quote name='MrFriday18']Hey what happens if Im wrong and it wasn't shot down and the administation is telling the truth.[/quote]

I'd be interested to see what happens because I don't think they ever have yet.

Maybe an angel gets its wings.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='MrFriday18']Ya i know but it does not change my opinion of the bush admin.[/quote]

Well think about it, if you believe its a conspiracy theory then the administration lied to you. If they lied to you how can you fully trust them? If you cannot fully trust them how can you stand 100% behind them?[/quote]

It's like god, he doesn't understand why they do things, but he knows they have a master plan for america that he can't possibly comprehend. His faith tells him that everything will work out in the end.[/quote]

mmmmmm......faith in the government, that the'll make everything good for everyone with their master plan..........kinda like socialism ![/quote]

Difference here? Maybe the fact that I actually do care if the government is being transparent, and the fact that I actually have to agree with the government before I support it? Supporting a large government because it is doing what I feel is best, meaning I know what it is doing, is different from blind faith.
 
Well, according to the 9/11 report, it was neither shot down nor crashed by the passengers. The passengers were trying to storm the cockpit, and the terrorist flying the plane veered it side to side and up and down in order to throw the passangers around trying to get into the cockpit. When it seemed that they were actually going to get in, the terrorist crashed the plane rather than let the passengers get control.
 
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