Vista, the different versions?

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Is there a simple explanation of what is in each box and as to why Home Basic isn't enough? I remember that XP Pro was better than Home but I can't even remember what the differences are now. No way I'm going to drop for Ultimate, considering the beta version didn't seem to have anything special(as in exclusively Ultimate, I love the OS).
 
Basic doesn't have the new Aero interface (think that is what they call it) that is supposed to be one of the big new features. From what I have read it seems basic really isn't much different from XP except it supports DX10 and maybe has slightly better security options.
 
[quote name='Gojtron']Is there a simple explanation of what is in each box and as to why Home Basic isn't enough? I remember that XP Pro was better than Home but I can't even remember what the differences are now. No way I'm going to drop for Ultimate, considering the beta version didn't seem to have anything special(as in exclusively Ultimate, I love the OS).[/QUOTE]

Bestbuy.com finally has legitimate information up for the 3 versions.... Home Premium is the one to get. It's got all the media features, the pretty shit on the desktop, etc. The only thing Ultimate has over it is some security and backup things... as far as I know.
 
Also, MS is saying that if you buy Ultimate you'll be able to buy 2 additional Home Premium licenses for $50/ea, so if you're needing to upgrade more than one PC that may be something to consider.
 
For most people, you want Home Premium. It's basically the successor to XP Home or Media Center Edition. As mentioned, Home Basic is crippled. I don't see the point in getting Vista and skipping one of it's biggest new features.

And BTW, for most people, XP Home was the one to get. Basically all Pro added was the ability to log in to NT domains (just useful for work at larger businesses) and the ability to use more than one physical processor (Home already supported dual core chips, etc.)

Even with Home, you can still get corporate mail through Outlook just by providing your credentials when you launch Outlook-so even in corporate environments not everyone needed Pro.

It ticked me off when gamers were buying Pro just because they somehow thought it was better for games :D
 
I'm sticking with XP... I'll pick it up from my school ASAP (because it'll be cheap) but I really don't know if I want to upgrade yet. I'll consider it if all of my hardware gets Vista drivers and key software get's Vista versions.

But everything I've read so far says that it's too much like XP with a few minor upgrades.
 
Folders look different now and the search feature is a lot better. There's also a automatically installed sidebar with gadgets like weather and calender and newsfeed etc.
 
It should be noted that MS is planning on rolling out a DLC style upgrade system. I don't recall the exact quote, but more or less they will be offering the option to purchase additional features not found in your current version via the MS download store. So if you want one feature from ultimate, but don't need all the other bonuses, you will apparently be able to download just that specific app.

Hopefully this plan is still in place.
 
I don't plan to upgrade just yet, because of drivers and that I have to plunge down $150+ on 2x1GB of memory. But all the free stuff they're giving out everywhere is very tempting.
 
Cnet actually had a good page up too that they put up recently. The only thing I can't figure is what a "Windows Ultimate Extra" is since they didn't have any in beta and it's still just a check mark on a list.
 
[quote name='Gojtron']I remember that XP Pro was better than Home but I can't even remember what the differences are now. [/quote]

Pro came in a blue box, home came in a green box ;)
 
Vista really isn't worth it yet. Not only are the drivers going to be piss poor for months, but there are going to be litterally thousands of program compatability issues. then you add in the fact that almost all of the "huge improvements" in Vista are just things MS stole from existing third party XP software.

The only real reason to upgrade to Vista will be for DX10 support. However, games will still support DX9 for quite some time and the first DX10 games are quite some time out (6 months or more).

Just stick with XP. I was running Vista for about 2 months and after the novelty wore off, I just reinstalled XP. I would have gone with 2000, but it doesn't support SLI (nor does Vista).

As far as the differences between XPH and XPP, some of the biggest that come to mind are better user control and filesharing on the network. There are a lot more tools in XPP for the tech minded that are sorely missed in Home.
 
i was at BB today playing with a display set up and all I know is I LOVE IT. Media center being built in a sweet. I WANT IS SO BAD...but err 160...I am getting vista freeas an upgrade from emachines, but is home basic :(
 
[quote name='kevzik']i was at BB today playing with a display set up and all I know is I LOVE IT. Media center being built in a sweet. I WANT IS SO BAD...but err 160...I am getting vista freeas an upgrade from emachines, but is home basic :([/QUOTE]

Doesn't XP already bring an emachine to its knees? I wouldn't want to see how badly Vista performs on one of those...
 
Thats not really that fair of a statement as all large OEMs bundle so much shit on new PCs that they run horridly anyways.

Toshiba is one of the worst offenders that I've seen. They replace just about every control panel applet with a proprietary app that has to run on boot or you just can't change anything.

A lot of new PCs have 60+ processes running out of the box. XP only needs about 15, so those other 45 are all bloat ware that either treats you like an idiot by making you do everything the way so simple its hard or tries to make you buy shit that you could get for free.

[quote name='Chacrana']Doesn't XP already bring an emachine to its knees? I wouldn't want to see how badly Vista performs on one of those...[/quote]
 
[quote name='Kayden']Thats not really that fair of a statement as all large OEMs bundle so much shit on new PCs that they run horridly anyways.

Toshiba is one of the worst offenders that I've seen. They replace just about every control panel applet with a proprietary app that has to run on boot or you just can't change anything.

A lot of new PCs have 60+ processes running out of the box. XP only needs about 15, so those other 45 are all bloat ware that either treats you like an idiot by making you do everything the way so simple its hard or tries to make you buy shit that you could get for free.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, new PCs have a shitload of garbage on them, but emachines' computers would probably have even more trouble considering that even if you did manage to get all the crap off of it, it'd still have the shitty hardware.
 
I'm not going to argue that point; they are owned by Gateway afterall.

[quote name='Chacrana']Yeah, new PCs have a shitload of garbage on them, but emachines' computers would probably have even more trouble considering that even if you did manage to get all the crap off of it, it'd still have the shitty hardware.[/quote]
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Yeah, new PCs have a shitload of garbage on them, but emachines' computers would probably have even more trouble considering that even if you did manage to get all the crap off of it, it'd still have the shitty hardware.[/QUOTE]

I remember helping a family member set up an emachines they got for cheap after rebates. What a mess that was. They pressed the floppy eject button with nothing in the drive and the damn button fell into the case.
 
:lol: I had a machine come in once where I hit the floppy eject button and the CD tray opened.
[quote name='Surferflames']I remember helping a family member set up an emachines they got for cheap after rebates. What a mess that was. They pressed the floppy eject button with nothing in the drive and the damn button fell into the case.[/quote]
 
I thought about building a SFF (Small Form Factor) PC and retiring this current PC to HTPC status and loading Vista on the machine I'm considering a purchase of (as I still have a Release Candidate DVD).

Are those Vista DVDs that are for sale full retail versions or upgrades?
 
Kayden;2615469 The only real reason to upgrade to Vista will be for DX10 support. However said:
Supreme Commander takes advantage of DX10 and it comes out next month. Of course it will work with DX9 too.

After rechecking, it appears that Supreme Commander will not support DX10 out of the box. A patch is to be released about a month after it launches that will enable it.
 
Yay for going to school!

I got a fat discount on home premium - 108 shipped after tax!!!

Those in school, I recommend you look into trying to get a discount.
 
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