Waiting outside of EB

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Yesterday I was walking out of EB games after not finding the used game i was looking for, so i had some cash on hand, about 30 dollars, and as im walking out i see this guy pull up with a few xbox games in his hand, obviosly going to be trading them in, so i asked if i coudl see what he had and offer obviosly more than what EB would. I ended up paying him 30 dollars for Otagi, Prince of Persia, and Topspin. Not bad :), i was thinkign about just sitting outside Eb with a lot of money and just rake in games , ne one else done somthing similar?
 
i haven't before,but after that i might just go and have to do that. i hate having to pay outragous prices for used games. especially when you only get a few dollars for gamestop/ebgames/etc.
 
working at gamestop, its very tempting to offer customers a couple bucks more for games, but alas i dont want to get fired.
 
There's been at least one thread already (a few months ago, I think) about the morality of this. A lot of people argued that its immoral since the Gamestop/EB/whatever brought in the business and you are stealing it. I personally see no problem with this, but then again I don't exactly do it. I just offer my friends cash before they even leave their house for the EB, and its always at like $5-10 more than what EB would offer anyway.
 
Ive done this before, but it's usually waiting in line. This weird nerdy fat dude in line in front of me was selling like 20 ps2 games, and got about $27 credit. They gave him like 2 dollars for Secret of Monkey Island, I offred him 4, cause its one I was looking for at the time. The dude at the register was pissed, but fuck them, they have rediculous trade in prices.
 
Morality or no; you can't beat getting the Bruce Lee Boxed set for 15 bucks brand new from some schmo who never watched it. I reccomend everyone do this at least once. Not "Stand outside" like some kind of game rapist, but just browse around for 20 minutes or so and see if you can catch anything. As long as you take it outside.
 
Im sure that if someone was trading in a game that I wanted and was getting next to nothing for it I would offer them a few dollars more for it. If the gamestores want the game they can offer more.
 
i do that all the time at my local eb... i know the manager so he doesnt care much..... i will offer the dude like 1 dollar more in cash lmao i get games hella cheap that way!
 
I only do it for games with obscenely low trade-in values. I picked up Brute Force for $3 after Gamestop was able to offer him $2. I also pick up ps1 games very cheaply this way. I always make sure to do the transaction outside of the store, and most of the time the cashiers are cool with it.
 
[quote name='ElwoodCuse']In the store, you're in trouble. Outside the store, they can't do anything about it.[/quote]

Within a certain amount of feet they can. If your just waiting outside the door to see what people bring in, they can call the cops. Ive done it many times at my store. Its simply staling business from that store. Its like if you had abunch of DVDs, and sat outside Best Buy waiting for people to go in and say "Hellboy is $16.99 inside...$15.99 RIGHT here". Your taking away from there business and customers who may purchase somnething else.
 
[quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='ElwoodCuse']In the store, you're in trouble. Outside the store, they can't do anything about it.[/quote]

Within a certain amount of feet they can. If your just waiting outside the door to see what people bring in, they can call the cops. Ive done it many times at my store. Its simply staling business from that store. Its like if you had abunch of DVDs, and sat outside Best Buy waiting for people to go in and say "Hellboy is $16.99 inside...$15.99 RIGHT here". Your taking away from there business and customers who may purchase somnething else.[/quote]

While I certainly see your point, I would argue that there is a difference between the two scenarios here. If you stand outside of EB and give customers money, you are not taking money away from the store as directly as you would were you to sell DVDs outside BB. Still, I do see your point.

Also, I would say that a good portion of the times that people trade in games at EB, they are looking to get new games - so they are likely wanting trade-in credit. *if any EB or GS employees want to correct me, that's cool.* So theoretically, if you were to give someone outside $30 for 3 games instead of the $12 that the store would have given them, that's just more money that that person can spend inside the store. Make sense?

^^Just a thought. :D
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='ElwoodCuse']In the store, you're in trouble. Outside the store, they can't do anything about it.[/quote]

Within a certain amount of feet they can. If your just waiting outside the door to see what people bring in, they can call the cops. Ive done it many times at my store. Its simply staling business from that store. Its like if you had abunch of DVDs, and sat outside Best Buy waiting for people to go in and say "Hellboy is $16.99 inside...$15.99 RIGHT here". Your taking away from there business and customers who may purchase somnething else.[/quote]

While I certainly see your point, I would argue that there is a difference between the two scenarios here. If you stand outside of EB and give customers money, you are not taking money away from the store as directly as you would were you to sell DVDs outside BB. Still, I do see your point.

Also, I would say that a good portion of the times that people trade in games at EB, they are looking to get new games - so they are likely wanting trade-in credit. *if any EB or GS employees want to correct me, that's cool.* So theoretically, if you were to give someone outside $30 for 3 games instead of the $12 that the store would have given them, that's just more money that that person can spend inside the store. Make sense?

^^Just a thought. :D[/quote]

I was thinking the exact same thing.
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='ElwoodCuse']In the store, you're in trouble. Outside the store, they can't do anything about it.[/quote]

Within a certain amount of feet they can. If your just waiting outside the door to see what people bring in, they can call the cops. Ive done it many times at my store. Its simply staling business from that store. Its like if you had abunch of DVDs, and sat outside Best Buy waiting for people to go in and say "Hellboy is $16.99 inside...$15.99 RIGHT here". Your taking away from there business and customers who may purchase somnething else.[/quote]

While I certainly see your point, I would argue that there is a difference between the two scenarios here. If you stand outside of EB and give customers money, you are not taking money away from the store as directly as you would were you to sell DVDs outside BB. Still, I do see your point.

Also, I would say that a good portion of the times that people trade in games at EB, they are looking to get new games - so they are likely wanting trade-in credit. *if any EB or GS employees want to correct me, that's cool.* So theoretically, if you were to give someone outside $30 for 3 games instead of the $12 that the store would have given them, that's just more money that that person can spend inside the store. Make sense?

^^Just a thought. :D[/quote]

Nope, actually, it doesn't. When you buy a game from EB and pay in cash, their profit is very small. But if you trade in a game, they're giving you $5, but then they sell it for $30. That means they made a $20 profit instead of the $6 they would have gotten if you just went and bought the game with cash.
 
[quote name='Stargun007']Nope, actually, it doesn't. When you buy a game from EB and pay in cash, their profit is very small. But if you trade in a game, they're giving you $5, but then they sell it for $30. That means they made a $20 profit instead of the $6 they would have gotten if you just went and bought the game with cash.[/quote]

Ah, yes. I see your point as well. *puts on bad British accent* "Jolly good case there, dear sir!!"
:wink:
 
they will call the cops on you and you will go to jail unless you can show the cops a licence to run a store (dont ask me what that means all i know is that is what happen)
 
Damn, just thought about doing this yesterday when I was at a Gamestop and someone was trading in a complete Steel Battalion. Don't know how much they offered as the GS manager pleaded cash poor having just bought too other systems that morning.

Guess I should have hung around. :(
 
I saw a guy bring in 3 dvd once to an ebgames, one was lost in translation and the other two I werent sure of. He was offered 12 for all 3, and they were all new. I was thinkin of sayin something, but I didnt feel like dealin with a hassle that day.
 
I went in yesterday to trade in 11 Games, and the kids in front of me were trading in HUGE amounts of stuff. We are talking like Full Spectrum warrior and some other sweat ass games, and I think he got like $15 for Full Spectrum :eek:

I would have easily given the kid $20.

But I was happy with my trade in, our local gamestop was doing a 30% on top thing so I got $9.60 for Timesplitters 2, and several other old games.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
That's why two weeks before your impending walk-out,; you go to town soliciting customers. It's beautiful to get Spiderman 2 for $17 cash.
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LOL You are the man for walking out the way you did at Gamestop.
 
[quote name='Michaellvortega']I almost got a gamecube for $30 that way. The guy chickened out.[/quote]
Your offer of $30 for a GC is actually more than what Gamestop or EB would offer? Damn thieves.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Ive done this before, but it's usually waiting in line. This weird nerdy fat dude in line in front of me was selling like 20 ps2 games, and got about $27 credit. They gave him like 2 dollars for Secret of Monkey Island, I offred him 4, cause its one I was looking for at the time. The dude at the register was pissed, but shaq-fu them, they have rediculous trade in prices.[/quote]

Now I don't profess to be a lawyer or anything, but with my one buisness law class that I took twice to pass there is a legal and fairly moral way to do this without pissing off management. Once the poor shmo is given the poor shmo thier $20 quote for the 40 games he or she has traded in. You can say something discrete like "Man, that is such a rip" or something less grating like "I can get more value than that over Ebay"; basically something to dissuade them from getting raped by EB's arbritrary trade-in values and to go elsewhere. As the person leaves you can follow him or her outside and when you are a safe distance from thier line of sight you can offer them a value for the games.

1.) The customer has exercised his or her right to accept or not accept the values given by EB

2.) The customer is not on EB property or anywhere where they will know about the transaction anyway.

3.) The free market is at work, and both you and the potential trader are happy.
 
I just did something like this with my roommate.

He was going to Gamecrazy to trade in some games. One of the games he wanted to trade was NFS : Underground for Xbox. I told him if they didn't give him more than $20 I'd buy it off him. Well, turns out they only give $17, so I gave him $20.

Worked out for me - it's impossible to find this game that cheap anywhere.
 
[quote name='sying'][quote name='jer7583']Ive done this before, but it's usually waiting in line. This weird nerdy fat dude in line in front of me was selling like 20 ps2 games, and got about $27 credit. They gave him like 2 dollars for Secret of Monkey Island, I offred him 4, cause its one I was looking for at the time. The dude at the register was pissed, but shaq-fu them, they have rediculous trade in prices.[/quote]

Now I don't profess to be a lawyer or anything, but with my one buisness law class that I took twice to pass there is a legal and fairly moral way to do this without pissing off management. Once the poor shmo is given the poor shmo thier $20 quote for the 40 games he or she has traded in. You can say something discrete like "Man, that is such a rip" or something less grating like "I can get more value than that over Ebay"; basically something to dissuade them from getting raped by EB's arbritrary trade-in values and to go elsewhere. As the person leaves you can follow him or her outside and when you are a safe distance from thier line of sight you can offer them a value for the games.

1.) The customer has exercised his or her right to accept or not accept the values given by EB

2.) The customer is not on EB property or anywhere where they will know about the transaction anyway.

3.) The free market is at work, and both you and the potential trader are happy.[/quote]

Still, your butting into a conversation that your obviously not suppose to be in (between the store and a customer). If you pulled that in my store, I would tell you to leave and not return after a fair warning. I would never go around other places of buisness and say "Damn, you can get that at Wal-Martfor $4 cheaper". Granted, there slightly different scenrios, its still the same type of aspect.
 
[quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='sying'][quote name='jer7583']Ive done this before, but it's usually waiting in line. This weird nerdy fat dude in line in front of me was selling like 20 ps2 games, and got about $27 credit. They gave him like 2 dollars for Secret of Monkey Island, I offred him 4, cause its one I was looking for at the time. The dude at the register was pissed, but shaq-fu them, they have rediculous trade in prices.[/quote]

Now I don't profess to be a lawyer or anything, but with my one buisness law class that I took twice to pass there is a legal and fairly moral way to do this without pissing off management. Once the poor shmo is given the poor shmo thier $20 quote for the 40 games he or she has traded in. You can say something discrete like "Man, that is such a rip" or something less grating like "I can get more value than that over Ebay"; basically something to dissuade them from getting raped by EB's arbritrary trade-in values and to go elsewhere. As the person leaves you can follow him or her outside and when you are a safe distance from thier line of sight you can offer them a value for the games.

1.) The customer has exercised his or her right to accept or not accept the values given by EB

2.) The customer is not on EB property or anywhere where they will know about the transaction anyway.

3.) The free market is at work, and both you and the potential trader are happy.[/quote]

Still, your butting into a conversation that your obviously not suppose to be in (between the store and a customer). If you pulled that in my store, I would tell you to leave and not return after a fair warning. I would never go around other places of buisness and say "Damn, you can get that at Wal-Martfor $4 cheaper". Granted, there slightly different scenrios, its still the same type of aspect.[/quote]

Tell him to leave forever or just leave for the day?
 
Depends. If they don't shut up about "Go on ebay, these people are rip-offs" its forever. I very rarley ban people for a day, usually its a forever thing.
 
I've done this at various game stores over the last couple years, buying games people are trading in from them.

Shenmue II $5
Toe Jam & Earl 3 $6
Brave Fencer Musashi $3
Non-GH Xenogears $11

You can find some pretty good stuff this way but you can also piss off employees. Luckily I'm not a teenager and spend tons of money in gamestores so I usually don't get hassled.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Depends. If they don't shut up about "Go on ebay, these people are rip-offs" its forever. I very rarley ban people for a day, usually its a forever thing.[/quote]

Well, if your store is a rip-off, then don't expect people to not call you on it.

Stop being a rip-off or stop stifling people who profess the truth.
 
[quote name='snipegod'][quote name='gizmogc']Depends. If they don't shut up about "Go on ebay, these people are rip-offs" its forever. I very rarley ban people for a day, usually its a forever thing.[/quote]

Well, if your store is a rip-off, then don't expect people to not call you on it.

Stop being a rip-off or stop stifling people who profess the truth.[/quote]

You can't go in a store saying stuff like that and expect not to be kicked out. We don't make the prices, corporate does. Its not like I pick and choose how much store credit we give someone. Yet its funny, the people who bitch and moan about the trade-in prices come back day after day and trade stuff in.
 
[quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='snipegod'][quote name='gizmogc']Depends. If they don't shut up about "Go on ebay, these people are rip-offs" its forever. I very rarley ban people for a day, usually its a forever thing.[/quote]

Well, if your store is a rip-off, then don't expect people to not call you on it.

Stop being a rip-off or stop stifling people who profess the truth.[/quote]

You can't go in a store saying stuff like that and expect not to be kicked out. We don't make the prices, corporate does. Its not like I pick and choose how much store credit we give someone. Yet its funny, the people who bitch and moan about the trade-in prices come back day after day and trade stuff in.[/quote]

I'm guessing that you work for an EB Games or a Gamestop.

I never suggested that you, personally, could change the trade-in values. However, that doesn't stop you from actually recognizing that most of the trade-in values EB or Gamestop give are rip-offs. They're completely low-balling people.

It's no different than telling the clerk that you're going go check FYE, or whichever opposing store, for their trade-in values. The people are usually nice about it, yet they're most likely losing business. So what gives? What difference does it make if you're losing it to a retail chain or someone who would actually get a use out of the game?

Hell, I'm just playing devil's advocate; I don't trade in games (except for profit, that is). But it seems wrong that you would stifle someone or even ban them from a store, knowing that you're low-balling the customers (whether thru corporate or, more personally, you).
 
Well, if your store is a rip-off, then don't expect people to not call you on it.
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then don't come to our stores and trade them in. If you feel you can get what you paid, then just go on ebay and sell them yourself. It's a lot of hassle and time involved.

They're completely low-balling people.
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they know what they are doing. There are alot of factors in taking in games. We take in scratched up games and have to send them off to resurface; same with systems (that takes money). We have thousands of copies of some games (my store alone has almost 100 preown Madden 2004s); Why give someone more than 1 dollar if you have plenty already?

I work for EB and I know personally they make shit off of new games. They make the majority of their money through the preown games. I work there so I follow policy. This stuff directly affects me. If we take a loss, I will lose hours like I have.

What difference does it make if you're losing it to a retail chain or someone who would actually get a use out of the game?
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One is done at someone else's place of business, the second is done in your place of business. It's completely different.

But it seems wrong that you would stifle someone or even ban them from a store, knowing that you're low-balling the customers
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if that is what his company says, he should follow cause they are the ones paying for his bills and stuff. Also, at least he isn't calling to report you to cops for soliticing.
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='gizmogc'][quote name='ElwoodCuse']In the store, you're in trouble. Outside the store, they can't do anything about it.[/quote]

Within a certain amount of feet they can. If your just waiting outside the door to see what people bring in, they can call the cops. Ive done it many times at my store. Its simply staling business from that store. Its like if you had abunch of DVDs, and sat outside Best Buy waiting for people to go in and say "Hellboy is $16.99 inside...$15.99 RIGHT here". Your taking away from there business and customers who may purchase somnething else.[/quote]

While I certainly see your point, I would argue that there is a difference between the two scenarios here. If you stand outside of EB and give customers money, you are not taking money away from the store as directly as you would were you to sell DVDs outside BB. Still, I do see your point.

Also, I would say that a good portion of the times that people trade in games at EB, they are looking to get new games - so they are likely wanting trade-in credit. *if any EB or GS employees want to correct me, that's cool.* So theoretically, if you were to give someone outside $30 for 3 games instead of the $12 that the store would have given them, that's just more money that that person can spend inside the store. Make sense?

^^Just a thought. :D[/quote]

You missed a step in your logic there. Follow along:

Scenario A.

1. Customer trades in games and gets $12 in credit.
2. Customer buys new game priced at $50, giving back the $12 in credit and $38 cash.
3. Retailer then sells traded-in games at normal markup for roughly $95.
4. Retailer now has in hand $133 and is missing one new game.

Scenario B.
1. You purchase said games for $30 from customer.
2. Customer purchases new game priced at $50, giving the retailer your $30 and $20 of their own.
3. Retailer now has in hand $50 and is missing one new game.

See the difference?
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Depends. If they don't shut up about "Go on ebay, these people are rip-offs" its forever. I very rarley ban people for a day, usually its a forever thing.[/quote]

I would take pictures of those "people" and put them on the wall with red "BANNED FROM HERE" or "Wanted" in a store for everyone to see .

This topic needs to be closed IMHO, stealing someone else's business is like pirating CDs, DVDs, etc. Crawl in a hole and run your scam on Ebay
f:censored: s.

P.S. Didn't mean to be rude just couldn't help it.
 
Funny how all of you red blooded American's don't want to see Capitalism at work.

Conform, evolve, or shut the hell up (since people are getting nasty towards my side of the argument).
 
My 2 cents, this isn't the greatest thing to be doing, but no one is perfect. I'd much rather sell a used but recent game to someone for $30 rather then me get $20 from GS/EB and them pay 44.99 used. If they were a little less stingy their 100% guarantee as opposed to my zero guarantee would make trading into the store a much better deal.

If I was going to do this though, I would respect the store and stay outside and not super close to the door either.
 
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