White House "holiday" cards rankle Christians

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'Holiday' Cards Ring Hollow for Some on Bushes' List
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 7, 2005; A01

What's missing from the White House Christmas card? Christmas.

This month, as in every December since he took office, President Bush sent out cards with a generic end-of-the-year message, wishing 1.4 million of his close friends and supporters a happy "holiday season."

Many people are thrilled to get a White House Christmas card, no matter what the greeting inside. But some conservative Christians are reacting as if Bush stuck coal in their stockings.

"This clearly demonstrates that the Bush administration has suffered a loss of will and that they have capitulated to the worst elements in our culture," said William A. Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

Bush "claims to be a born-again, evangelical Christian. But he sure doesn't act like one," said Joseph Farah, editor of the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com. "I threw out my White House card as soon as I got it."

Religious conservatives are miffed because they have been pressuring stores to advertise Christmas sales rather than "holiday specials" and urging schools to let students out for Christmas vacation rather than for "winter break." They celebrated when House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) insisted that the sparkling spectacle on the Capitol lawn should be called the Capitol Christmas Tree, not a holiday spruce.

Then along comes a generic season's greeting from the White House, paid for by the Republican National Committee. The cover art is also secular, if not humanist: It shows the presidential pets -- two dogs and a cat -- frolicking on a snowy White House lawn.

"Certainly President and Mrs. Bush, because of their faith, celebrate Christmas," said Susan Whitson, Laura Bush's press secretary. "Their cards in recent years have included best wishes for a holiday season, rather than Christmas wishes, because they are sent to people of all faiths."

That is the same rationale offered by major retailers for generic holiday catalogues, and it is accepted by groups such as the National Council of Churches. "I think it's more important to put Christ back into our war planning than into our Christmas cards," said the council's general secretary, the Rev. Bob Edgar, a former Democratic congressman.

But the White House's explanation does not satisfy the groups -- which have grown in number in recent years -- that believe there is, in the words of the Heritage Foundation, a "war on Christmas" involving an "ever-stronger push toward a neutered 'holiday' season so that non-Christians won't be even the slightest bit offended."

One of the generals on the pro-Christmas side is Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association in Tupelo, Miss. "Sometimes it's hard to tell whether this is sinister -- it's the purging of Christ from Christmas -- or whether it's just political correctness run amok," he said. "I think in the case of the White House, it's just political correctness."

Wildmon does not give retailers the same benefit of the doubt. This year, he has called for a consumer boycott of Target stores because the chain issued a holiday advertising circular that did not mention Christmas. Last year, he aimed a similar boycott at Macy's Inc., which averted a repeat this December by proclaiming "Merry Christmas" in its advertising and in-store displays.

"It bothers me that the White House card leaves off any reference to Jesus, while we've got Ramadan celebrations in the White House," Wildmon said. "What's going on there?"

At the Catholic League, Donohue had just announced a boycott of the Lands' End catalogue when he received his White House holiday card. True, he said, the Bushes included a verse from Psalm 28, but Psalms are in the Old Testament and do not mention Jesus' birth.

"They'd better address this, because they're no better than the retailers who have lost the will to say 'Merry Christmas,' " he said.

Donohue said that Wal-Mart, facing a threatened boycott, added a Christmas page to its Web site and fired a customer relations employee who wrote a letter linking Christmas to "Siberian shamanism." He was not mollified by a letter from Lands' End saying it "adopted the 'holiday' terminology as a way to comply with one of the basic freedoms granted to all Americans: freedom of religion."

"Ninety-six percent of Americans celebrate Christmas," Donohue said. "Spare me the diversity lecture."

Diversity has been a hallmark of White House greeting cards for some time, according to Mary Evans Seeley of Tampa, Fla., author of "Season's Greetings From the White House." The last presidential Christmas card that mentioned Christmas was in 1992. It was sent by George H.W. and Barbara Bush, parents of the current president.

The wording, meanwhile, has often flip-flopped. Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter put "Merry Christmas" in their 1977 card and then switched to "Holiday Season" for the next three years. Ronald and Nancy Reagan, similarly, began with a "Joyous Christmas" in 1981 and 1982 but doled out generic holiday wishes from 1983 to 1988. The elder President Bush stayed in the "Merry Christmas" spirit all four years, and the Clintons opted for inclusive greetings for all of their eight years.

The current Bush has straddled the divide, offering generic greetings along with an Old Testament verse. To some religious conservatives, that makes all the difference.

"There's a verse from Scripture in it. I don't mind that at all, as long as we don't try to pretend we're not a nation under God," said the Rev. Jerry Falwell.


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Dubya should study up on Reagan. He knew that the fundies are only happy when they bitch, so he would only throw them a bone or two just to keep them loyal to his party. Now Dubya's been giving them too much, and they're on huge power trip.
 
The biggest problem I have with all those who think that there is a "war on christmas" because Bill O'Reilly and John Gibson is this: in no way, shape, or form is there ANYTHING prohibiting YOU from celebrating christmas in the christian way you know how: loading up your credit card debt fighting overweight bastards at 5:00AM on the day after thanksgiving for $50 HDTVs, bitching about the crappy gifts so-and-so got you, and listening to drunk Uncle Brian, who had about seven cups of nog too many and managed to blurt out some disturbingly vulgar stories about your Aunt Justine.

I STILL don't get why Christians aren't offended that capitalism stole their holiday. If nothing else, they should be delighted that people are trying to separate the consumer secular holiday from the respectful and introspective holiday in which people celerate the birth of Jesus Christ. I'd be offended that Jesus was put aside in favor of Santa Claus, The Nutcracker, Douglas Fir trees and Yule Logs (whatever the fuck those are).

Also, some conservative twit (it may have been that museum of left wing lunacy blog PAD cited) pointed out the fact that Christmas wasn't a recognized holiday, federally, until 1870. If nothing else proves to you that there isn't that much of a lasting "Christmas Tradition" tied to the secular celebration, that should. It's also humorous because it shows that, while rooted in traditional belief systems (christianity), it is just as fabricated as Kwanzaa, which those people like to criticize so much.

fuck, why not just call it "Hooray for myke!" day (seeing as how I'll be 27 on 12/25 ;)), and we can use my birth as the excuse for presents; I'm secular enough. Let the Jesus people have their Jesus; just don't think Jesus is the reason for your 360 Core System.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

fuck, why not just call it "Hooray for myke!" day (seeing as how I'll be 27 on 12/25 ;)), and we can use my birth as the excuse for presents; I'm secular enough. Let the Jesus people have their Jesus; just don't think Jesus is the reason for your 360 Core System.[/QUOTE]

Don't you DARE try to impede on Festivus.
 
I believe that a year or so ago, someone somewhere (pardon the details) tried to set up a Festivus "nativity scene" (for lack of a better phrase). IIRC, it was taken down quickly.
 
What's ironic about Bill O'Lielly is that his website posts this picture:

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Seems christmas enough, right? It's got a wreath that appears to be lighting up. Now do a right-click, properties on it, and you'll discover this:

http://images.billoreilly.com/images/top/holidaylogohome.gif

Holidaylogohome.gif??? How ironic.
 
I went to the witch capital of the world and not one person said happy Samhain to me, every damn one of them said happy halloween. That's offensive to all the pagans in Salem. On december 21st no one ever says "happy Yule", its as if the day doesn't even exist. Also, no one ever says happy Beltaine, happy Spring Equinox or happy Summer Solstice. I says wiccans should (and other pagans who celebrate the same holidays) boycott every business that does not affirm their beliefs.
 
I still say Merry Christmas. Most people who don't believe in it just smile and say, "Happy Holidays" in return.

It's not a big deal.
 
The right wingers should be satified with Bush's Faith-Based Charity contributions. Why are they raising a stink about this crap? They have grown too greedy and they secretly want the elimination of the Separation of Church and State.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
I STILL don't get why Christians aren't offended that capitalism stole their holiday. If nothing else, they should be delighted that people are trying to separate the consumer secular holiday from the respectful and introspective holiday in which people celerate the birth of Jesus Christ. I'd be offended that Jesus was put aside in favor of Santa Claus, The Nutcracker, Douglas Fir trees and Yule Logs (whatever the fuck those are).
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You obviously don't go to church much, there's usually at least two sermons about how there needs to be a moment of reflection on the religious meaning of christmas instead of just consemerism (and so forth) in just about every christian church in the US (or world) from about mid-december til the holiday. When I was younger I attened several parish christmas parties all of which had a moment of religious reflection and prayer or the like.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']You obviously don't go to church much[/QUOTE]
Not in years; I was always a big fan of the pink candle on the advent wreath (that's week #3, IIRC).

What I'm pointing out is the severe disconnect between the capitalist concept of christmas and the christian celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. I never said the latter doesn't happen, I was merely pointing out that, external to the church, christians should be overjoyed that secular and profit-minded notions of "christmas" are beginning to no longer be labeled as such, and thus create confusion amongst people (particularly children) who witness the contradictions in the teachings of Jesus Christ and those of selfish consumer indulgence.

By separating the two in terminology, then it's more palatable; after all, there is little confusion between Hanukkah and secular gift-giving; why should christians try to perpetuate confusion by allowing a secular holiday to take on the name of a religious one?
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I went to the witch capital of the world and not one person said happy Samhain to me, every damn one of them said happy halloween. That's offensive to all the pagans in Salem. On december 21st no one ever says "happy Yule", its as if the day doesn't even exist. Also, no one ever says happy Beltaine, happy Spring Equinox or happy Summer Solstice. I says wiccans should (and other pagans who celebrate the same holidays) boycott every business that does not affirm their beliefs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that would make a dent in business. :roll:

I can sum the OPs article up in one word. Fruitcake. The season, and that celebrant.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Yeah, that would make a dent in business. :roll:

I can sum the OPs article up in one word. Fruitcake. The season, and that celebrant.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I thinks its 1-2 percent in salem according to some statistics I saw once. My point was its absurd to expect businesses to affirm your beliefs, especially when there is more than 1 holiday at that time (meaning they are asking stores to play favorites by saying christmas). I also used them since many holidays originated as pagan. Some of which have been renamed (samhain and halloween) while others have essentially been taken and repackaged (yule and christmas) into the more modern celebration. Whichever group does it doesn't make it any less ridiculous. There's a difference between not affirming beliefs and attacking them, the side that believes there's a war on christmas confuses the two.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Eh, I thinks its 1-2 percent in salem according to some statistics I saw once. My point was its absurd to expect businesses to affirm your beliefs, especially when there is more than 1 holiday at that time (meaning they are asking stores to play favorites by saying christmas). I also used them since many holidays originated as pagan. Some of which have been renamed (samhain and halloween) while others have essentially been taken and repackaged (yule and christmas) into the more modern celebration. Whichever group does it doesn't make it any less ridiculous. There's a difference between not affirming beliefs and attacking them, the side that believes there's a war on christmas confuses the two.[/QUOTE]

I know, I was making a funny, or rather, trying to.

Off Topic, I thought Halloween was a bastardization of All Saints Day, "All Hallows Eve" The catholic holiday on the first of November.

I don't celebrate Halloween, or really Christmas, for that matter. My favorite holiday is Thanksgiving. Nothing beats stuffing yourself and watching football.
 
I'm glad that stores and the cards say happy holidays or holiday season. That way you are still recgonizing that holidays are celebrated this time of year without having to list every holiday or just mention 1 and annoy people who don't celebrate it
 
I got one of these. Sure, it doesn't represent Christmas, but it's got a quote from Psalm 28:7; it's hardly a bland, un-Christian card. :roll:
 
That is the same rationale offered by major retailers for generic holiday catalogues, and it is accepted by groups such as the National Council of Churches. "I think it's more important to put Christ back into our war planning than into our Christmas cards," said the council's general secretary, the Rev. Bob Edgar, a former Democratic congressman

This is so true. I wish more christians were like this Reverend. I'd like to see how one of the christians who voted for Bush could WWJD his or her way through the decision-making process used to enter the Iraq war.
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']I got one of these. Sure, it doesn't represent Christmas, but it's got a quote from Psalm 28:7; it's hardly a bland, un-Christian card.
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Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.

...and the Bushes wish you all a very Happy Holiday!
~
 
People complaining about PC stuff regarding Christmas really bothers me. And I'm Jewish.
I don't think the wreath's in my town should be taken down because they are discrominatory but rather because they are a stupid waste of money. I would rather they spend that (albeit small) amount of money on my school, not prettying up the lampposts.
 
[quote name='smalien1']People complaining about PC stuff regarding Christmas really bothers me. And I'm Jewish.[/QUOTE]
Please tell us what being Jewish has to do with being bothered by "PC."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Please tell us what being Jewish has to do with being bothered by "PC."[/QUOTE]

I mind other occasions of people not being politicaly correct (using derogatory terms, making fun of other groups) but forcing the inclusion of chanukah, which isn't even a big deal in the Jewish faith irritates me. I feel I have more of a right to complain about this than someone who doesn't celebrate chanukah
 
[quote name='smalien1']I mind other occasions of people not being politicaly correct (using derogatory terms, making fun of other groups) but forcing the inclusion of chanukah, which isn't even a big deal in the Jewish faith irritates me. I feel I have more of a right to complain about this than someone who doesn't celebrate chanukah[/QUOTE]

Why should any religion get free advertising from the government? American citizens should not be forced to fund the birthday celebration of an ancient Israeli spiritualist.

Some of us just want to enjoy a well-earned winter vacation without having more government-sponsored Jesus crammed down our throats.
 
[quote name='smalien1']I mind other occasions of people not being politicaly correct (using derogatory terms, making fun of other groups) but forcing the inclusion of chanukah, which isn't even a big deal in the Jewish faith irritates me. I feel I have more of a right to complain about this than someone who doesn't celebrate chanukah[/QUOTE]

Well, in your previous comment you complained about spending money for decorations. But the problem is decorations bring business. People enjoy the atmosphere and take there time and are less likely to rush. A warm, comforting atmosphere is good for business. Don't you enjoy the atmosphere when walking down city streets with decorated windows, lights and garland? Don't you tend to take your time?

Though I think you misunderstand the point. It's not so much about forcing the inclusion, its about make it inclusive to everyone who wants it to be. Instead of saying "this is only a christmas celebration" its more welcoming if you leave the door open to other celebrations. Even the cases of where they go overboard and ban secular christmas displays, its not due to christmas being offensive. Its because they don't want to single out one religion, especially when there are other holidays at that time. Its about not playing favorites. No one is forcing these organizations or administrations to act this way, it is a choice they make individually. Now the other side, the one that insists on having christmas acknowledged, they are attempting to force people to do what they want. They take the opposite view you do, they are offended when christmas is not specifically mentioned. They are attempting to force the exclusion of all other groups, they are not content to let organizations make their own decision.
 
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