Why can't people sell fake designer items online?

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STUPID QUESTION! I know, but god damn girls can be really really frustrating to deal with. So anyways can anyone provide me a link to any legal issue site on selling fake items?

I mean anyone can say well you can't sell them because it's liscenced right? or it's the designers blah blah and it's illegal.. but apparently I need more of a stronger proof of why is it illegal? Is it illegal even?
 
[quote name='1SwtDeception'] but apparently I need more of a stronger proof of why is it illegal? Is it illegal even?[/QUOTE]

Cause its licensed, copyrighted, and trademarked. Plus some items include proprietary designs or formulas for making an items.

For example a fake shirt Could violate; copyrights, trademarks, and patents.
Or lets say some software That would violate; intellectual property rights, trademarks, copyrights, patents for the anti-copy software etc.
 
Unless you live in Taiwan or another country that hasn't signed the Berne Convention it is illegal to import counterfeit goods. US Citizens should note it is also a federal offence to import, buy, sell or trade these goods.


I would probably hit up google for "Berne Convention."
 
Also for anyone else to answer to:

What would you say to this:
"But it's not counterfeit if it doesn't have any markings on it. Normal stores like Walmart, Target sell sunglasses that're cheaper and look nice and stuff that aren't marked and that's legal."

To me people keep putting "inspired Prada" here and there right there is a cry for "IM FAKE" what about that? People think anything that isn't marked with the logo yet looks like it is OKAY.. but is it really?

I can't fully explain it without any legal proof/laws whatever.
 
Hmm...
"Counterfeit" goods are illegal and wrong. If they're labeled Calvin Klein and they're not, that's one thing.
But "inspired by" can be something different. "Counterfeit" and "cheap ripoff pieces of crap" are not necessarily the same thing. And in quite a lot of cases, there are legitimate 'off-brand' items that are as good as or better than a name brand, the only difference is it's missing that fancy name. Of course, how they built their knockoff matters--was it 'reverse engineering', are they 'stealing' the innards of the original or what have you, or did they just say, "Hey, we can make a pair of sunglasses that look like that." [of course certain aspects of a thing's look can also be trademarked/copyrighted/patented/etc, and that's a different case as well.]

My first question would be, is it trying to represent itself, in wording of the ad or the way the item itself looks, as another, branded item? Not just 'looks like', because lots of things look alike, but if it's actually trying to make people thing it is Prada or whatever. Saying "Why buy Prada when you could buy El Cheapo and get the same quality" isn't necessarily wrong.

Of course, when in doubt I would avoid buying it. And while I don't buy stuff just for the name, sometimes the cheap crap is truly crap. [Sometimes it's not, of course--there's a brand of cheese balls the dollar store carries that is 1/2 the cost of the ones at the grocery store, and taste better in my mind/mouth.]
 
Fake designer clothing is just as bad as say fake playstation games (worse actually). When you purchase designer clothing, you arent buying the name- you are buying the quality and the design. There are SOME brands (such as prada and gucci) where you buy quality, but are paying some for the name. Other brands, such as diesel, you are buying the quality and the best in the world. Selling fake designer items is illegal, but rarely is anything done about it.
 
To me people abuse that word inspired. First off don't bother using the word "INSPIRED" that's just some marketing scheme so you can attract/deceive buyers. EVEN though it's clearly label "inspired" people will ask "is it real?". If people just stick with calling by the look or style of it (NOT "PRADA STYLE") then it's fine if you get what I mean.

It's not in the looks it's just a cheap look-alike. Of course you can argue everythings alike here and there. But I guess my arguing point is: why don't you use the damn word style like "thick rim plastics" rather than "inspired LV" or whatever. It's practically saying "HEY IM FAKE".

These girls have found wholesalers who sell like 'inspired sunglasses" because it's similar to the product of their favorite brand name. And I think the basis of marketing is to shout out that "BRAND NAME HERE BUT IT'S NOT REALLY BUT I'LL SAY IT ANYWAYS!"


edit: It's true nothing is done.. because we're a big country.. but I'm talking forum board.. and that I think you can manage and control. You state the rules you should enforce them otherwise why would you bother to state it you know?
 
In living around the country and whatnot I've just noticed a few interesting things...

Back home, in NY, most women can spot a fake from two blocks away during a torrential downpour. It's kinda creepy, in a way. Also, a few years ago there was a massive crackdown on pretty much most of the egregious sellers of bootleg pocketbooks and other brand-name ripoffs (however you want to refer to them since they were both blatant ripoffs or 'in the style of' to the point where several people could have been easily sued) in NYC itself. Although, to be fair, there are still areas in the city (primarily Chinatown) where you can get cheapo stuff like that.

In comparison, living out further west in Pittsburgh and now on the edge of the midwest, women tend to get together, throw parties, and buy bootleg pocketbooks and whatnot from a mutual friend who also happens to be a dealer/"knows a guy". It's not any different than, say, Tupperware Parties used to be decades ago, jsut with a different slant. In these cases most women who attend do so because they want to look good and pay for something they could actually afford, knockoff or not.

In the end...who knows. Some people will pay anything just for fashion's sake, or at least a status symbol while others will pay what they think is right. That's just it.

In the end though it all depends. I've just learned in the past that even if you have all of the evidence, all of the laws, all of the concepts at your fingertips, it still doesn't matter if someone really wants to buy something. I've spent too much time in the past discussing the Berne Convention and whatnot to people dealing in anime fansubs, bootlegged video games and other areas that it just doesn't matter much any longer.

But I'm cynical and jaded. ;)
 
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