Why do all the good deals go dead?

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I don't know if this is the right place to post but anyways...

why do people abuse the good deals? Abuse has now made one of the best current trade-in deals to end early (gamerush's trade 3 get PO for 5)... on top of that they are ending the trade 2 get any new game for 30. It leads me to think that gamerush might not offer any good trade deals again because of people abusing the system by flipping. Another deal that is getting shafted now is the $5 off any PS2/PSP game because of people using it to get free games. I wish people would just stop abusing the system so people like myself, that use them the way they were made for, could still use these good deals. I don't want Gamerush to turn into another EB/GS when it comes to trade-in deals. Thx
 
OP, it happens to all of the good deal sites. The community grows and the smart ones will understand a deal and will try to make it last and useful for as long as possible, but the idiots will just ruin it for everyone.
 
Like I said earlier in a different thread, getting free games is probably not the reason the ps2 / psp coupon is starting to get rejected. I had ZERO problems on doing it, and I did it three times at Best Buy... each time, the cashier couldn't care less.

What killed it was that the coupon got too popular for it's own good, and Best Buy noticed this magical coupon start appearing en masse.

Someone figuring out the $5 dollar coupon works on 4.99 games isn't abuse, but rather pretty damn smart. The system dosen't put up any sort of warning flag for the 4.99 game... it simply comes up as 0, and that's that.

Same with the trade 3 deal at Gamerush... Blockbuster had so many loopholes in that deal, and flipping was probably around the whole time. It just got too big and popular for it's own good and BB killed the deal. It was bad business sense to have that deal to begin with, espically with no POX list.

I traded in two Madden 2004 copies, and another cheap 2.99 game from Gamestop, and got a 45 dollar used game. You honestly can't tell me this deal is going to work out for them in the long run. I've never flipped, and I've only gotten games for myself... but if I can go to Gamestop, stock up on cheap games and get really awesome ones... then hell yea I'm going to do it.

And about the smart ones making a deal last - it's actually the smart ones who are going to capitalize as much as they can, because they know if they figured out a loophole, there are probably a million other people who also have.
 
These GR deals have been going on off & on for over a year now. It was a pretty good run to a ridiculously good deal.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Like I said earlier in a different thread, getting free games is probably not the reason the ps2 / psp coupon is starting to get rejected. I had ZERO problems on doing it, and I did it three times at Best Buy... each time, the cashier couldn't care less.

What killed it was that the coupon got too popular for it's own good, and Best Buy noticed this magical coupon start appearing en masse.

Someone figuring out the $5 dollar coupon works on 4.99 games isn't abuse, but rather pretty damn smart. The system dosen't put up any sort of warning flag for the 4.99 game... it simply comes up as 0, and that's that.

Same with the trade 3 deal at Gamerush... Blockbuster had so many loopholes in that deal, and flipping was probably around the whole time. It just got too big and popular for it's own good and BB killed the deal. It was bad business sense to have that deal to begin with, espically with no POX list.

I traded in two Madden 2004 copies, and another cheap 2.99 game from Gamestop, and got a 45 dollar used game. You honestly can't tell me this deal is going to work out for them in the long run.

And about the smart ones making a deal last - it's actually the smart ones who are going to capitalize as much as they can, because they know if they figured out a loophole, there are probably a million other people who also have.[/QUOTE]

its called a loss leader.

OP, as for the good deals going dead, if a deal gets frontpaged, or caged, it will get raped into the ground. that is just the nature of deal sites like slickdeals, fw, and especially cag.
 
[quote name='Moxio']You can't stop it. Greed is human nature.[/QUOTE]

Very good point of this thread. But as the other poster pointed out, there are intelligent people to either side of a deal. Those who want to make it last as long as possible and those that find the loopholes and abuse it.
 
[quote name='dracula']its called a loss leader.
.[/QUOTE]

It was my understanding that a loss leader was a cheap sale item, designed to get you into the store and look around, that generally only occurs for a short time.

Gamerush's deals isn't a loss leader... it's a fucking black hole. I don't think the local Gamerush's will ever recover from the complete shit that has been piled up on them because they weren't smart enough to throw down a POX list, and run one deal at a time.

I don't feel bad about trading them Madden 2004 for the deal, because if they are dumb enough to take in two copies at a time when they already have 15 copies on the shelf, that's their loss.

Having b2g1 free AND a trade 3 get 1 for $5 was like wearing a giant kick me sign... either have one or the other, but both at the same time?

And with Best Buy, the coupon was pretty much an accident in the first place.. surprised it took them until June to catch it.
 
[quote name='Moxio']You can't stop it. Greed is human nature.[/QUOTE]

^^^This answers the OP's question. No further discussion is really necessary! :lol:
 
I really don't see a problem with taking full advantage of any deal. Companies need to put restrictions on deals if they don't want this to happen.

Not really related to GR, but one reasonable thing any .com could do when they have a great low price on something is to limit it to a few per address. Then they won't get blasted out by eBayers in the first half hour. But if they don't care to put a limit (maybe they just want to clear them out and don't care who buys them) you can't really blame somebody for buying them en masse, although I'd still be mad if I just missed out.
 
That title sounds weird, but normally most of my topic titles does to. Anyways in time karma will bite them in the ass later on. I wish there was a Gamerush here, at least one.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Abuse has now made one of the best current trade-in deals to end early (gamerush's trade 3 get PO for 5)... [/QUOTE]You place the blame on the customers, but I place the blame on Gamerush. They should have never offered that deal. What? Are they trying to drive themselves into bankruptcy, via giving stuff away? Dumb.



Even if the deal was not abused, eventually Gamerush would have realized they were losing too much money, and ended it. Companies can not afford to give games away like that.

troy
 
everyone of our BB pulled almost all the newer games off the shelf before this started. I only found God of war as a newer game. Back in Dec i Was finding tons of great games in trade 3 pay 10. BUT trade 3 pay 5 there was really nothing i would pick up

THough i think i will run Friday and trade in 3 games and pick up Smackdown Vs Raw Even though it sucks

i will probally trade in NHL 2004 . Carmen game and A gba game (total paid 13) and grab it
 
No deal got raped harder than the Circuit City $5 game sale. That wasn't two days old when every game on the like 80-90 game list was gone from every CC here.

Just about everyone here reported or heard about people loading up shopping carts for chrissakes and buying 100+ $5 games.

I got like 13 games out of that sale but can honestly say I kept every single one, may not have played them much, but I still have them and didn't flip them. I have 280+ games now and the only ones this generation I've traded in were Enter the Matrix and the first LOTR game they were damn embarassments to grace my shelves. Unfortunately I got them both when they were $50.
 
[quote name='Moxio']You can't stop it. Greed is human nature.[/QUOTE]

I want to correct your quote: Greed is an American ideal.

[quote name='fire']Very good point of this thread. But as the other poster pointed out, there are intelligent people to either side of a deal. Those who want to make it last as long as possible and those that find the loopholes and abuse it.[/quote]

I am one of the ones that like ridiculous deals to continue and let them stretch out so when the titles that I truly want come available I am able to grab them.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']I don't know if this is the right place to post but anyways...

why do people abuse the good deals? Abuse has now made one of the best current trade-in deals to end early (gamerush's trade 3 get PO for 5)... on top of that they are ending the trade 2 get any new game for 30. It leads me to think that gamerush might not offer any good trade deals again because of people abusing the system by flipping. Another deal that is getting shafted now is the $5 off any PS2/PSP game because of people using it to get free games. I wish people would just stop abusing the system so people like myself, that use them the way they were made for, could still use these good deals. I don't want Gamerush to turn into another EB/GS when it comes to trade-in deals. Thx[/QUOTE]

Well, sorry but that is exactly what is about to happen because the new management over at Blockbuster Corporate has hired some execs from EB and that is the reason the deal is ending early. Flippers are a contributing factor but the new execs want to start fresh that is probably why we won't see anymore deals like these at Gamerush anymore.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']
I am one of the ones that like ridiculous deals to continue and let them stretch out so when the titles that I truly want come available I am able to grab them.[/QUOTE]

You even said it yourself - the deal is ridiculous.

If it wasn't flipping that killed the deal, it would have been the fact Gamerush is losing massive amounts of money because of not having a POX list and relying on employees to make the right decision.

And what about the people whose Gamerush already had games they truly wanted available, like mine? I was out of games to trade in, so one trip to Gamestop netted me a ton of 2.99 garbage games that Gamerush gladly accepted.

Gamerush was damned from the beginning with this deal. The deal is good and all, but seriously, with no POX list and accepting 2004 sports titles, they were asking to be hit. How many times will Gamerush take Madden 2004 from me for trade?

With the Best Buy coupon, even printing it out and using it once can be considered abuse, since Best Buy never meant for anyone to print it out and use it.
 
[quote name='dracula']its called a loss leader.

OP, as for the good deals going dead, if a deal gets frontpaged, or caged, it will get raped into the ground. that is just the nature of deal sites like slickdeals, fw, and especially cag.[/QUOTE]

Hah that's a great explanation. We certainly do rape deals to the ground.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']Abuse has now made one of the best current trade-in deals to end early (gamerush's trade 3 get PO for 5)... [/QUOTE]You place the blame on the customers, but I place the blame on Gamerush. They should have never offered that deal. What? Are they trying to drive themselves into bankruptcy, via giving stuff away? Dumb.



Even if the deal was not abused, eventually Gamerush would have realized they were losing too much money, and ended it. Companies can not afford to give games away like that.

troy
 
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