Why the Left Lost: PAD's Election Day Recap (Hey, at least you won the debates!)

PittsburghAfterDark

CAGiversary!
Well, well, well. Here we sit. Here I gloat. Here I get to say see I told you so. Without being redundant that will now be shortened to SITYS. I'm sure some of the few board conservatives that I know here like Scrubking, Defender, BigNick, CTLesq and others are happy but damn, I know my role. I am the bomb throwing conservative that is the target of everyone on this board. I told you Monday I'd tell you why you lost and was mocked, oh well SITYS.

As of this writing Bush has 274 EV's with Iowa and New Mexico still out there but leaning Bush. Should that trend continue Bush ends up with 286 EV's. My most optimistic projection was 301. That's how narrow I thought the margin of vicotory was going to be. I never expected a landslide but a solid victory.

Real quick on the Congressional races, I expected a net loss of 2 House seats, the Republicans gained one. I expected a gain of 2 Senate seats, I got 4. I didn't expect Louisiana to elect a Republican Senator since they hadn't since reconstruction. I also thought Tom Daschle would be re-elected which I am thrilled to report he wasn't. Ex-Senator Daschle now has the distinction of being the first party leader in Congress to be unelected in 52 years. Congrats Tom, you earned it!

Before you try and discredit this election here are the facts. George W. Bush becomes the first President elected with a firm majority of the popular vote since 1988. George W. Bush received the largest amount of the popular vote for any President in American history even beating my political idol Ronaldus Magnus. This is the first time a President/party gained seats in both houses of Congress and the White House since 1900 when William McKinley pulled the trick. 11 states decided that they would not acknowledge, recognize or endorse gay unions or marriages. 1 state decided not to violate the Constitution and change how their state awarded electoral votes.

This was a watershed election. America is a Conservative nation. We are not the nation of Michael Moore, entitlement spending and free health care. We are not beholden to world opinion for the simple fact that we are a superpower! We don't care that the UK's Guardian doesn't like us, or the French and Germans wish we were more sensitive. We tire of being told that our leader is stupid, incompetent and dangerous when we've freed 50 million people and asked for nothing in return, put the most dangerous terrorist group in the world in a cave and reduced it to sending tapes as opposed to sending bombs, death and disease.

This nation fully resents a Vietnam veteran who came back to his country to protest those he served with. It doesn't take to people who negotiate with Communists authorities in Paris while directly undermining State Department efforts to bring peace with honor to a horrible conflict. America recognizes a liberal Senator from Massachusetts and paid attention to years of votes that decreased defense and intelligence funding, votes repeatedly to increase taxes and votes repeatedly for partial birth abortion. America heard Senator Kerry proclaim he needed a "global test" for involving American troops in armed conflict but when his track record included him voting against the first Gulf War despite overwhelming UN approval and international support what conflict would ever meet that goal if that one didn't? America realizes that a Senator that repeatedly states "I have a plan." and then follows up with "Go to my website." doesn't have a plan that the American public can get behind.

The candidate aside America knows you can't trust Democrats with national security in a time of war anymore. You can't get behind a Senator who has been too wrong on too many issues for too many wars. You can't wage a "more thoughtful, sensitive war on terror". You cannot send troops into harms way and then claim "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it." and think mainstream America will buy your explination that "You don't understand how Washington works, that was a nuanced issue.". You cannot win an election in America in 2004 by telling people as President your goal is to reduce terrorism to a "nusiance , like drugs or prostitution."

Candidate faults aside the biggest reason the Democrats got completely defeated was their own supporters. Michael Moore; enough said. Air America; irrelevant and will be bankrupt and off the air by February. Hollywood; your venom, preachiness, and intellectual dishonesty was disgusting. Musicians; never before have so many, with so little real world knowledge, spouted off so ignorantly about things which they knew nothing about. However that wasn't the killer for the left, it was about 50% of the distain America felt for the ABB crowd.

The bastard step children of a ill well intentioned McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform that was designed to limit "soft money" which favored Republicans was a disaster for the left. How can you say that PAD? How can campaign finance be a disaster? Look at the real world consequences of this law. Media outlets, due to eliminated special interest money allowed to be in play 30 days out, were to enjoy unparalleled influence. What did they do with this? Forged documents on CBS to prove a point after 5 years of searching futility for a story that didn't exist. It resulted in the nations leading newspaper and the same network attempting to launch an October surprise over missing explosives in a warzone; then it came out the U.S. Army was the reason they were missing. It resulted in more lies, half truths and absolutely un-American ads from more 527's than you can count.

In the end of it all what was the exit issue that mattered most to Americans? Character. No flip flops, no trial lawyers claiming that their candidate can make the lame walk out of wheelchairs, no "nuanced" stances on terrorism, no seeking international support to protect our country, no sensitive wars, no commander in chief wannabe that states "wrong time, wrong place, wrong war" is fit to lead our men in combat, no late term infanticide, no courts will define marriage as they see fit, no man that forsakes his faith and potential core beliefs can be a leader if his public life doesn't reflect his personal beliefs.

There are a litany of details I left out due to space but understand one thing. The left was as soundly defeated on November 2nd 2004 as Bush was elected. Your side is done, cooked and American 60's liberalism has been thrown on the ash heap of history like Communism, Nazism and totalitarian rule. The Democrats are a party out of step with America. When the Supreme Court is reshaped and Congress gets to work to steal a phrase from the Democrats "America will be America again."
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I never expected a landslide but a solid victory.
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Actually you did predict a landslide, which I would have preferred. (I'll search for that thread later if I must.) In an election this close, regardless of who won, basically about half the voting country did NOT want the winner. That doesn't seem too good for the country as a whole.

Not to mention my confidence that the declared winner actually won is a bit low, with all the shennigans going on (this is s general remark, nothing against Bush in particular. I made this remark about both Bush and Kerry several weeks ago).
 
My most optimistic prediction, when I was mostly trolling a bit, was when I predicted 43 states. It was sometime over the summer. No need to look for it, there it is.
 
I'm glad that Bush won, and I feel that he won legitimately, but I'll agree that it is a problem that our nation is now so divided. What we really need to do now is try to reach out to the other side. I'm always seeing generalizations from one side or the other about how conservativism is evil or liberalism is idiotic. I'll admit that I'm definitely a conservative, but anybody who believes that both sides are not necessary components in running the country is a fool.
 
You the man PAD. I was up until 2am watching the results. I slept well last night knowing that Bush was going to be in office for four more years.
 
I was up till 6 in the morning watching it. I voted for Kerry, but I will say it: Bush won fairly. Congrats, George. You earned it.
 
MorbidAngel4Life: Thanks for that. Seriously. I just hope that there are more people on the left like you so that we can get things back on track--it's not good to have our nation so divided.
 
Your welcome. And thank you for not jumping down my throat for voting Kerry, unlike some people would. See I can admit defeat. Kerry got defeated. Simple as that. I respected both candidates throughout the whole election.

And I agree. We need to unite this nation again.
 
Here is to relaxing the reguations on arsenic in drinking water! Woo hoo! Go Bush.

Arsenic makes you look younger and feel good, right? So while it looks like he is being bribed by the coal industry he is REALLT helping us!
 
[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']Your welcome. And thank you for not jumping down my throat for voting Kerry, unlike some people would. See I can admit defeat. Kerry got defeated. Simple as that. I respected both candidates throughout the whole election.

And I agree. We need to unite this nation again.[/quote]

I would never knock anyone for voting for a particular candidate. The whole point of a representative republic is that the most prevelant idea or candidate becomes the winner. I fight in the arena of ideas like a rabid tiger. If I sway you and my side wins, great. If I don't and my side loses, I wait until the next election.

That's the way our system works. That's what I fought for. When Clinton won, we went and got the House and Senate because we couldn't vote him out. That's what was meant to be.

I may disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.
 
And that is fine. I wasn't talking about you, when I said that. I wouldn't kock anyone for voting differently than me. It is their choice. Whoever they vote for is fine by me.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']
I would never knock anyone for voting for a particular candidate. The whole point of a representative republic is that the most prevelant idea or candidate becomes the winner. I fight in the arena of ideas like a rabid tiger. If I sway you and my side wins, great. If I don't and my side loses, I wait until the next election.
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Do you like humble pie?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32482
 
[quote name='Quackzilla'][quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']
I would never knock anyone for voting for a particular candidate. The whole point of a representative republic is that the most prevelant idea or candidate becomes the winner. I fight in the arena of ideas like a rabid tiger. If I sway you and my side wins, great. If I don't and my side loses, I wait until the next election.
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Do you like humble pie?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32482[/quote]

Aknowledging that your candidate is so bad that suicide would be prefered is an entirely different thing, quack :lol:
 
Excellent PAD!!

I, as well as other conservatives on this board have put up with a lot of radical liberal nonsense like 10 topics in a row by the same idiot trying to bash Bush or conservatives in general, and this is a satisfying win because of it.

You radical liberals spewed your garbage over and over and in the end you were made to suck it down are realize that the country does not agree with you and your foolish Bush bashing.

Best of all common sense has prevailed and the country was able to see through Kerry's mountain of lies, deceit and opportunism. Now he will go back to being his true self - an extreme left liberal more worried about marrying gays than stopping baby killing abortions - more worried about the world's opinion of us than fighting terrorists in their backyard.

So to quackzilla and every other radical liberal:

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[quote name='Quackzilla']Wow, after reading that my IQ dropped to 192.[/quote]

Same for me. I'm not one for bashing, but, even some Bush supporters know that they aren't getting told the whole truths to almost every situation.
 
Well said, well said.

[quote name='Quackzilla']Wow, after reading that my IQ dropped to 192.[/quote]

After reading that mine dropped to 999.
 
[quote name='Nephets'][quote name='Quackzilla']Wow, after reading that my IQ dropped to 192.[/quote]

Same for me. I'm not one for bashing, but, even some Bush supporters know that they aren't getting told the whole truths to almost every situation.[/quote]


Riiiiiiight, like Fahrenheit, told the whole story. Would you care to elaborate us with your side instead of spewing your baseless rhetoric? Thanks in advance.
 
I never saw Farenheit, But I think Michael Moore is a jackass. I never did like Bowling For Columbine. But like I said, Bush won fair. Kerry lost. There is nothing to do except celebrate our new president. There is nothing we CAN do. But I am not griping. If Bush can turn things around like he said he would, I wouldn't mind one bit.
 
Good stuff PAD well thought out post. We need to enjoy this 4 years though because I don't see anything derailing Hilary Clinton if she runs in 2008. As a military member who has served under both a Dem And Repub President I was very relieved to see another four years of a Republican President.
 
[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']... There is nothing to do except celebrate our new president. There is nothing we CAN do...[/quote]

Actually you make a good point.

I for one welcome our new benevolent overlords and hope that they will allow me to retain a majority of my rights, oops they're now called privileges (sorry Commendant Ashcroft, I forgot)

After all, Grand High Commander Bush, your new society will need people to control the internets (*I hope*)
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']... There is nothing to do except celebrate our new president. There is nothing we CAN do...[/quote]

Actually you make a good point.

I for one welcome our new benevolent overlords and hope that they will allow me to retain a majority of my rights, oops they're now called privileges (sorry Commendant Ashcroft, I forgot)

After all, Grand High Commander Bush, your new society will need people to control the internets (*I hope*)[/quote]

Thanks. It's hard to do when your drunk. But hey. It doesn't matter.
 
[quote name='camoor'][quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']... There is nothing to do except celebrate our new president. There is nothing we CAN do...[/quote]

Actually you make a good point.

I for one welcome our new benevolent overlords and hope that they will allow me to retain a majority of my rights, oops they're now called privileges (sorry Commendant Ashcroft, I forgot)

After all, Grand High Commander Bush, your new society will need people to control the internets (*I hope*)[/quote]

DAMN STRAIGHT BITCHES!!!!
 
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