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This shit is a joke, within three hours? I've looked online and seen multiple issues like this. I almost didnt buy it, but I figured the one I saw crashing constantly was a one time thing, so I bought it... took it home and now mine is crashing. Do yourself a favor and skip right on to the PS3. This thing is a piece of crap.
 
Call support and they'll overnight it, man......

Its no big deal, just call them. Or just freakin' return it. :roll:

PS3 will have triple the problems, since PS2 had the same kind of history of "failing" on owners.

DRE's, crashing, etc....Xbox 360 isn't the first console to have this kind of problem.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Do yourself a favor and skip right on to the PS3. This thing is a piece of crap.[/QUOTE]

I'm loving how you judge the console when yours is defected. Call MS, they'll send you an overnight box and ship you a brand new console. Don't sit there and say the entire system is crap when you have a defected one.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']This shit is a joke, within three hours? I've looked online and seen multiple issues like this. I almost didnt buy it, but I figured the one I saw crashing constantly was a one time thing, so I bought it... took it home and now mine is crashing. Do yourself a favor and skip right on to the PS3. This thing is a piece of crap.[/QUOTE]

like this man said...
[quote name='CarlosXE']PS3 will have triple the problems, since PS2 had the same kind of history of "failing" on owners.

DRE's, crashing, etc....Xbox 360 isn't the first console to have this kind of problem.[/QUOTE]

it's the risk you take to buy a system at launch.
 
between me and my cos, our 360 has been on for more that 100 hrs already, and only onece did it freeze.

Calm down, call M$ and get a new one and be thankful that they won't charge you, unlike fucking Sony, who to this day would not repair not one of my three DRE ridden PS2s. Even after the court settlement :bomb:
 
[quote name='Scorch']I'm loving how you judge the console when yours is defected. Call MS, they'll send you an overnight box and ship you a brand new console. Don't sit there and say the entire system is crap when you have a defected one.[/QUOTE]

People do it with the PS2 all the time, and are already doing it with the PS3 even though it isn't even out yet. :roll:
 
[quote name='zewone']fuck the PS3. M$ for life.[/QUOTE]no no no. i like ms, sony, and nintendo. if you love games, how is it possible to diss a whole system and its library of games. ive never understood this and i never will.
 
[quote name='whoknows']People do it with the PS2 all the time, and are already doing it with the PS3 even though it isn't even out yet. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Say what? Weren't most PS2s defective? I'd say it's justified. I'm not a PS2 basher, but fuck does that hardware suck.
 
360's freezing up, PS2's w/DRE's and Nintendo with...wait a minute, I've never heard of any Nintendo systems having substantial problems.:)
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Do yourself a favor and skip right on to the PS3. This thing is a piece of crap.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad yours broke. You seem like a dick.
 
[quote name='neocisco']360's freezing up, PS2's w/DRE's and Nintendo with...wait a minute, I've never heard of any Nintendo systems having substantial problems.:)[/QUOTE]very good point my friend. never had a problem with my cube. i still have my ps2 from the original launch. it works fine. the only one i had a problem with is the original xbox. i got rid of it 2 weeks ago, because it wouldnt read games anymore. booo!
 
I got a new console in less than a week.

Most likely MS will send you a new console instead of repairing yours. They sent me a letter with mine saying "So that you can enjoy your 360 as quick as possible, here is a brand-new console to replace your defective one." Works perfectly!

I called at 11:00 p.m. on Friday night, and got my console 10:00 a.m. Thursday morning.
 
Gees, bad luck. I bought a fish and it died within 3 hours too! I was so pissed! I went out and got a Pirahana, they last much longer and don't freeze or have DRE's. Wait, what?
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Gees, bad luck. I bought a fish and it died within 3 hours too! I was so pissed! I went out and got a Pirahana, they last much longer and don't freeze or have DRE's. Wait, what?[/QUOTE]

Some fish are just more sensitive to water conditions than others. Angel Fish, Gourami, etc.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']This shit is a joke, within three hours? I've looked online and seen multiple issues like this. I almost didnt buy it, but I figured the one I saw crashing constantly was a one time thing, so I bought it... took it home and now mine is crashing. Do yourself a favor and skip right on to the PS3. This thing is a piece of crap.[/QUOTE]
sorry to hear that....i got mine on 11/22 and i have ran it for about 5 hours/day with no problems..im sorry you're having problems and im sure you will be sent a new one, but this is no reason to suggest skipping out for a ps3...who says that the ps3 wont have the same or similar problems? good luck
 
While Mooky is being a little hostile, he does have a point. I've never heard of a more defective launch. News articles have been written about the 360's overheating and melting down, and everytime I bring the system up with anybody in my family, the first thing they mention is the overheating problem. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to get my hands on one, but you can't turn a blind eye and say there aren't some serious problems with certain batches of 360's.

EDIT: Oh yeah, to everybody who's using the DRE argument about Sony's hardware: I don't remember hearing a thing about DRE's on launch day. ;)
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Gees, bad luck. I bought a fish and it died within 3 hours too! I was so pissed! I went out and got a Pirahana, they last much longer and don't freeze or have DRE's. Wait, what?[/QUOTE]

Do you ever make serious posts?

[quote name='Mr. Anderson']While Mooky is being a little hostile, he does have a point. I've never heard of a more defective launch. News articles have been written about the 360's overheating and melting down, and everytime I bring the system up with anybody in my family, the first thing they mention is the overheating problem. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to get my hands on one, but you can't turn a blind eye and say there aren't some serious problems with certain batches of 360's.

EDIT: Oh yeah, to everybody who's using the DRE argument about Sony's hardware: I don't remember hearing a thing about DRE's on launch day. ;)[/QUOTE]

..because your family is experts on XBox 360 technical support, right? He doesn't have a point. He bought a first generation product, there's a technical difficulty. Nearly every first generation product has problems. PSP had dead pixels, DS had dead pixels, PS2's had a few errors and even more so over time, Gamecubes are apparently starting to wear down.. hell, even my new brand of cell phone has locked up and/or deleted all my pictures and phone numbers two or three times, so what do you do? You contact the company, you inform them of the issue, you get the item replaced.

Regarding your blind eye comment, no one's doubting that there's problems with 360's. There are. There were problems with the XBox. We're just saying not to write off the entire system because of one faulty console.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Do you ever make serious posts?



..because your family is experts on XBox 360 technical support, right? He doesn't have a point. He bought a first generation product, there's a technical difficulty. Nearly every first generation product has problems. PSP had dead pixels, DS had dead pixels, PS2's had a few errors and even more so over time, Gamecubes are apparently starting to wear down.. hell, even my new brand of cell phone has locked up and/or deleted all my pictures and phone numbers two or three times, so what do you do? You contact the company, you inform them of the issue, you get the item replaced.

Regarding your blind eye comment, no one's doubting that there's problems with 360's. There are. There were problems with the XBox. We're just saying not to write off the entire system because of one faulty console.[/QUOTE]

I agree, to swear off the 360 would be idiocy, but what I'm trying to say is the 360 has had the most problem-ridden launch in memory, with the PSP coming behind it. And as for my family, most of them are very ignorant when it comes to technology. If they have heard about a video game system breaking, it's at least a relatively big deal.
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']While Mooky is being a little hostile, he does have a point. I've never heard of a more defective launch. News articles have been written about the 360's overheating and melting down, and everytime I bring the system up with anybody in my family, the first thing they mention is the overheating problem. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to get my hands on one, but you can't turn a blind eye and say there aren't some serious problems with certain batches of 360's.

EDIT: Oh yeah, to everybody who's using the DRE argument about Sony's hardware: I don't remember hearing a thing about DRE's on launch day. ;)[/QUOTE]

PS2 had many many problems on launch day. Remember, that was what, close to 5 years ago? Less people on the internet, less 13 year olds going 'sony rules, nintendo suxs!', means less reports on the so-called 'mass defective' list.

Atleast MS is sending replacement consoles and additional free items in a faster manner. Even if you pay Sony $100 to fix you're PS2 you have to wait 2-3 weeks.
 
XBOX360 has had no problems and I had have had it like 5 days after launch or so. Great system and never overheated or anything on me. I just wish the games were cooler. HDTV hook up is incredible. Just keep it and get it an exchange for the same system, you won't regret it :)
 
Microsoft is doin alot better job on replacement than sony... IMO..

Just remembering when sony told meeh to live with my 7 Dead pixel PSP for a week then call them back...
 
This is the reason why I stopped coming here, I say one thing and I'm a fanboy. Lets forget about the 10 people after my post who wasted a minute of their lives typing "M$ 4 life!".

The fact of the matter is, I bought a product that is broken. I played a demo machine, that was broken. I went online and saw that many people have spent $400+ on a paperweight.

Scorch, you've gotten worse since I've been gone. Dude, if everything on this forum hits you personally, then you need to unplug and disconnect for a while. I knew you got sick, but you've based your life around CAG since I've stopped coming.

Also, you're full of shit, and I'll tell you why. You should never, ever, EVER.... expect to take a $400+ dollar game console home and expect that 35% of them could die in the first 10 hours. Ever. This is why they have something called quality control. This isnt like they're birthing something organic that possibly can mutate defects in the production stages... this is a fucking machine. The same parts go in every system. If 35% of them are having issues, then the company seriously fucked up. I shouldn't have to just expect it. Just as I shouldn't have to expect that my new car has a 30% chance of having the breaks go out, or a life support machine in a hospital to stop working. Those are both more complicated than a game console.

You've been conditioned by game companies to expect shitty products. I havent. I vote with my dollars. If you went to a resturant and expected to get food poisoning because it just opened. You're a dumbass. And if you got food poisoning, you should never go there again.

Now, as far as my broken Xbox 360 goes... I'll call up Microsoft and see what they say. If the voice of their company (Customer Service) can calm me down and make me feel like I'm one of the minor few with this problem and that they'll fix it right away... then they will regain trust. If they hassle the shit out of me with 90 mins of technical support and then have me send it in before I get the replacement. It'll be the last Microsoft product I buy. The same reason I havent bought a new Sega product since the 32X... and personally, even though I love sonic, I still hope they go under. Microsoft will just buy all they're intellequal property anyways and still make them.

Just because I hold a company to a standard of success, doesnt mean I'm a fanboy. It means I not a consumeristic retard, who'll buy garbage and expect it to be broken. Also, if I was to be a fanboy, it would be the Xbox. Since other than a PSP, thats all I have. So whoever blew me off and said I was a Sony/Nintendo fanboy, lick my cock $$$$$$s.

Also, thanks Mr. Anderson for making a valid arguement as well. With all the "XBOX ROXors U!!1!" comments, I thought I made the post in a Gamefaqs forum.

Also, this comment "hell, even my new brand of cell phone has locked up and/or deleted all my pictures and phone numbers two or three times, so what do you do? You contact the company, you inform them of the issue, you get the item replaced."

Dude seriously, if you really did this multiple times, you're a idiot. I'm personally to busy to fuck around with faulty shit. If its broken, I take it back and go elsewhere. I dont try something 3 different times expecting for it work... its a fucking machine. If it doesnt work then, it wont work now. Its a machine... it doesnt have a choice to work of not.

This has been a very sad display on how the game companies have turn you guys into whorey little sheeps that hemorrhage money. I guess if you have nothing but time and disposable income, maybe. But for everyone else who doesnt have time to dick around with the game drama, fuck it. Maybe MS will make me happy again, maybe they wont. But my first day Xbox 1 is stlll going strong... and my tray-loading PS2 seems fine. Hell, my Tray-loading Sega CD works fine. My Xbox 360, dead.

[quote name='Scorch']Do you ever make serious posts?

..because your family is experts on XBox 360 technical support, right? He doesn't have a point. He bought a first generation product, there's a technical difficulty. Nearly every first generation product has problems. PSP had dead pixels, DS had dead pixels, PS2's had a few errors and even more so over time, Gamecubes are apparently starting to wear down.. hell, even my new brand of cell phone has locked up and/or deleted all my pictures and phone numbers two or three times, so what do you do? You contact the company, you inform them of the issue, you get the item replaced.

Regarding your blind eye comment, no one's doubting that there's problems with 360's. There are. There were problems with the XBox. We're just saying not to write off the entire system because of one faulty console.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']I've looked online and seen multiple issues like this. [/QUOTE]

NEWS FLASH: Everything on the intardnet is teh truth. Now send me your bank account information so my Nigerian cousin can get out of prison and claim his Royal Inheritance. I will send you 50% for you help.

Really though...just call support and they'll send you a new system...maybe even a free game for you troubles. I read about that online also. No matter how much you pay for a product, there is still a percentage of faulty products. While I doubt the 35% figure is accurate that you quoted, I don't doubt that there are units that fail, but that applies to eletric razors, vibrators, dvd players and the list goes on. Its not limited to the console gaming industry.
 
yeah, it was rushed, thus people are having problems. on the other hand, there are naturally more "my 360 is busted" posts than "my 360 is working just fine" posts...the percentage of broken 360s isn't that high. the internet just makes it seem worse than it is.

There is really nothing to argue here. Mcrosoft is taking all the broken systems and replacing them with a quick turnaround. If you still want to play it, you can. or you can whine about it and cry like a leetle gurl. ;-)


Neocisco-- the gamecube had DRE problems, as a result of a design flaw on the launch cubes. the problem was that it didn't break the cube until about 8 months later.
 
Where are people getting the number of defective 360s at 35%?? I don't have a 360 but I have ONLY heard about defective ones here on this board. I haven't seen a single article in the paper, article in a gaming magazine, or special on TV about defective 360s. I'm sorry for your problems but what is the problem with MS shipping you another brand new console in a few days? People buy products every day from very reputable companies that are defective. The good companies handle these problems fast and without complaint. At least yours in under warranty. My first Xbox's hard drive melted down 3 DAYS after the extended warranty expired. My first PS2's network adaptor stopped working a few months after I got but Sony refused to fix it because they couldn't find anything wrong with it when I sent it to them. I asked if they hooked it up to a modem and tried to play and they said they was no way they would hook up a used system to their network. Since I could still play the games on it, they sent the same PS2 back to me and told me to live with it or buy another PS2 which sadly I did because my I was trying to fix my Xbox and wanted to play online games with my friends. There's nothing wrong with expecting a quality product but complaining about it when Microsoft is more than willing to send you a brand new replacement seems sort of childish. Sorry for bursting your bubble Mooky but I hope this doesn't come across as fanboyism for anyone or that I'm coming down on you for bad mouthing a product. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but now that you posted it here, it's fair game and I'm throwing my two cents in.


It's a great time to be a cheap ass gamer.
 
[quote name='red flare graf']Say what? Weren't most PS2s defective? I'd say it's justified. I'm not a PS2 basher, but fuck does that hardware suck.[/QUOTE]

I must be lucky. I bought my PS2 on release day and have never had a problem with playing games on it. Every once in a while it will lock up on me during a movie, but I restart it and its fine. I'm talking like 10 times since I bought it, not once a week.

My 360 is fine too, not a problem. Don't know of anyone around where I live that has had any problems either.

TBW
 
Scorch, you've gotten worse since I've been gone. Dude, if everything on this forum hits you personally, then you need to unplug and disconnect for a while. I knew you got sick, but you've based your life around CAG since I've stopped coming.


Here, here. I second that shit. You'd think that Scorch owns this damn board with the way he flames people. Get a life.

Oh, MookyJooky does have a right to complain. $400 for a consloe that dies after a few hours of use? He has the right to be pissed, and also to share this info with fellow gamers.
 
"Scorch, you've gotten worse since I've been gone. Dude, if everything on this forum hits you personally, then you need to unplug and disconnect for a while. I knew you got sick, but you've based your life around CAG since I've stopped coming."


Here, here. I second that shit. You'd think that Scorch owns this damn board with the way he flames people. Get a life.

Oh, MookyJooky does have a right to complain. $400 for a consloe that dies after a few hours of use? He has the right to be pissed, and also to share this info with fellow gamers.
 
sure, he can complain, but it's not like nothing can be done about it. pretty lame when people bitch about something, then close themselves off to suggestions to remedy the problem (instead, opting to bash scorch or mr. anderson.) the suggestion to wait for a ps3 was pretty lame too. as if sony has some perfect track record for launch systems :lol:
 
You have to send MS the product before they send you anything. They aren't going to send you a new system just because you claim yours doesn't work. Otherwise everyone would be calling them for free 360's, so sorry to burst your bubble in that regards.

Where did you get that 35% figure? I'm assuming you stated that out of anger, and beleive me I would be VERY pissed if I was in the same situation you are in, but you need to chill and give MS that call. They will fix your problems. Either way if 35% of XBoxs had problems at launch you would be hearing about this all over. A few CAG's got unlucky but in general most people are enjoying their 360 with little problems. If it happens to crap out in a few months thats what my warranty is for and they will fix it for the $50 I gave em.

Unlike Sony, MS *does* fix their products promptly and best of all FREE at the moment. You just have to give them a week or two, sorry but thats how it works. MS doesn't hire people to drive house to house in the US and fix it on site. All you motherfuckers forgot about DRE.
 
[quote name='CarlosXE']Call support and they'll overnight it, man......

Its no big deal, just call them. Or just freakin' return it. :roll:

PS3 will have triple the problems, since PS2 had the same kind of history of "failing" on owners.

DRE's, crashing, etc....Xbox 360 isn't the first console to have this kind of problem.[/QUOTE]

Me = V1 Wave 1 PS2. Me = NEVER had a problem besides not reading many blue discs thank you very much. :p

If these people would actually show CARE in PS2/Xbox systems and games maybe we'd have alot less returns >_
 
[quote name='Rhett']Me = V1 Wave 1 PS2. Me = NEVER had a problem besides not reading many blue discs thank you very much. :p

If these people would actually show CARE in PS2/Xbox systems and games maybe we'd have alot less returns >_
 
[quote name='CarlosXE']Call support and they'll overnight it, man......

Its no big deal, just call them. Or just freakin' return it. :roll:

PS3 will have triple the problems, since PS2 had the same kind of history of "failing" on owners.

DRE's, crashing, etc....Xbox 360 isn't the first console to have this kind of problem.[/QUOTE]

My Xbox has had more problems than any other console I have even owned.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Also, you're full of shit, and I'll tell you why. You should never, ever, EVER.... expect to take a $400+ dollar game console home and expect that 35% of them could die in the first 10 hours.[/QUOTE]
Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

Where did you get a bullshit number like 35%? Your ass?
 
[quote name='thagoat']no no no. i like ms, sony, and nintendo. if you love games, how is it possible to diss a whole system and its library of games. ive never understood this and i never will.[/QUOTE]

How can you not? First off, every PS2 I have ever had (I have lost count) - EVERY SINGLE PS2 (even my shiny little mini-PS2) has had issues playing certain discs. And I keep my stuff in immaculate condition. Is Sony "Good"/"Bad"? I don't care. But hearing people say "that was just a launch problem" makes me laugh.

As for choosing for/against systems, I don't see how a person couldn't. Were it not for Sony and MS, online gaming would likely still be emerging. I'm not saying online gaming is "good" or "bad" (I don't even play online, but I think we can almost all agree it is good), but if you hate online gaming and hate that designers and developers are investing their time in MMORPG's instead of Final Fantasy VI - 2 (We can all dream), how can you not wish the PS2 & XBox would go away?

Each company is pulling the market in its own direction. For a person like me who sucks at Halo-style games and doesn't want to have to put 200 hours into an RPG, the prospect of MS strengthening its influence on video games is a legitimate concern. Every Halo or Half-Life that developers spend 2 - 3 years creating means one (or two) less Final Fantasy/Intelligent Qube/Smash Brothers games that never got past the imagination of the guy in his little office cube who spends all his time trying to make Master Chief's head match his body.

I agree that there are good games for all systems, but I don't agree with the notion that nobody should choose sides. Were it not for M$, I am convinced Sega would still be in the hardware market. WHETHER BETTER OR WORSE, you have to admit the video game industry looks different today with Sony/Nintendo/M$ than it would with Sony/Sega/Nintendo. Look at the Dreamcast library - heck look at any past Sega system's library. Each company has its own vision (Need I say more than "Revolution"?), and how people respond to their vision will determine the future of gaming. If the Revolution were to become the next PS2 and this gizmo catches on - Halo 4 could easily be a completely different game (Due to M$ following their lead with a similar controller).

Do you think if the Gamecube rocketed to the #1 position with PS2 and M$ far behind, that the 360 would be a $400 system? Do you think if Nintendo ruled the world that there would be so many GTA clones? Do you think if the XBox had failed that there would be so many Halo clones? Do you find it surprising that in the midst of Sony and M$'s success, the "Maturity" in gaming has sky-rocketed? I'm not applying "Good" or "Bad", but there is a cause-effect relationship and you have to be mindless not to have an opinion as to whether you like it or dislike it.

What types of games are made, the investment companies put into those games, the quality of the labor that goes into those games (Don't tell me Halo 3 is being designed by 1st-year hires out of College), etc. is all affected by "who is winning" and "what is working". I have always said, I think people should respect others' preferences (I hate Halo because I suck at FPS, but I recognize it's a great game and respect that the game is awesome for others to play), but I really don't understand the argument that we should just swallow whatever is thrown at us from the leading hardware manufacturers without preferring one over the other.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Where are people getting the number of defective 360s at 35%?? I don't have a 360 but I have ONLY heard about defective ones here on this board. I haven't seen a single article in the paper, article in a gaming magazine, or special on TV about defective 360s. I'm sorry for your problems but what is the problem with MS shipping you another brand new console in a few days? People buy products every day from very reputable companies that are defective. The good companies handle these problems fast and without complaint. At least yours in under warranty. My first Xbox's hard drive melted down 3 DAYS after the extended warranty expired. My first PS2's network adaptor stopped working a few months after I got but Sony refused to fix it because they couldn't find anything wrong with it when I sent it to them. I asked if they hooked it up to a modem and tried to play and they said they was no way they would hook up a used system to their network. Since I could still play the games on it, they sent the same PS2 back to me and told me to live with it or buy another PS2 which sadly I did because my I was trying to fix my Xbox and wanted to play online games with my friends. There's nothing wrong with expecting a quality product but complaining about it when Microsoft is more than willing to send you a brand new replacement seems sort of childish. Sorry for bursting your bubble Mooky but I hope this doesn't come across as fanboyism for anyone or that I'm coming down on you for bad mouthing a product. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but now that you posted it here, it's fair game and I'm throwing my two cents in.


It's a great time to be a cheap ass gamer.[/QUOTE]


You must not be reading or listening close enough. I have seen a like 2-3 articles in the paper about the Xbox 360 overheating and having problems. I've also seen like 2 things on the news about the 360s being defective. Just thought I'd clear that up.
 
For all of you praising microsoft for fixing 360's for free....you are a bunch of morons.

They are doing it because the 360's are still on warranty. The GC can be fixed for free if its still on warranty. The PS2 can be fixed for free if its still on warranty. I dont know what the sudden praise is of getting it fixed for free. Many PS2's have been fixed for free by Sony, many GC's have been fixed for free by Nintendo. If its still on warranty then its free.

You people are acting like Microsoft is going to be replacing 360's for free forever...

NEWS FLASH: They won't. As soon as the 360's warranty has expired good luck getting it fixed/replaced for free.


The only reason the PS2 DRE problem seems to be bigger is because: There are a hell of a lot more PS2's out there, therefore a larger amount of ones that can have problems. And simply because people are over exaggerating about them. My PS2 has never given me a problem for all 4 years I have owned it.

My GC has given me several DRE's when I am playing a game. I didnt own my xbox long enough for it to give me DRE's but...Thompson drive anyone?? I'm not saying I had a Thompson drive, or that it would have broken, but after owning it for only 4 months I have had it lock up several times while I was playing KotoR and Ninja Gaiden (the only 2 games I had at the time). Luckily, I sold it for a good amount of money.
 
[quote name='whoknows']For all of you praising microsoft for fixing 360's for free....you are a bunch of morons.[/QUOTE]

The praise is because of the quick turnaround time. They overnight you a box and typically have you a fixed/new system within a week.
 
i would love to know exact numbers on how many 360s are actually defective. my guess is that the actual numbers would be less than you think. since we live in an internet world, i believe the overheating thing is most likely just over-hyped.

yes some people have had problems, but i bet the reality is that its not in the perceived mass quantities from the major news centers 'reporting' on internet forum complaints.
 
I really have no idea why everyone for some reason thinks it acceptable for something to be broken within the first week. Just because it seems normal to have first release of a console to be broken does not make it right. Who cares if you get your product back quickly, it should be working well the first time. It should never be acceptable, people need to wake up, you bought a faulty product and should be annoyed by it. If msoft didnt rush the release you prob wouldnt be dealing with this problem. The same goes for the others systems, I guess we will have to wait to see what happens when the other 2 are released.
 
[quote name='Technique']You must not be reading or listening close enough. I have seen a like 2-3 articles in the paper about the Xbox 360 overheating and having problems. I've also seen like 2 things on the news about the 360s being defective. Just thought I'd clear that up.[/QUOTE]


I read the New York Daily News every day and I'm basically forced to watch CNN during my lunch break. All of the features I've seen are about the shortage and not any defective merchandise. It's quite possible that in the month the 360 has been out I could have missed a grand total of 4 articles/features about defective 360s. I never said that there weren't any articles about it, just not any that IVE seen. I have seen a few threads created by people who have had problems but it never seemed like it was a huge number and everyone has seemed to get a replacement. Thanks for clearing up something that didn't need clarification. I'd like to see a link with that 35% figure. And please make it a reputable source and not some blogger with the same problem as Mooky. I wbn't sit here and pretend that I'm completely right but if you're going to try to prove me wrong please bring facts to the table.

Facts about the 360:
1. Sold out on first day.
2. Shortage created illusion of incredible demand.
3. Some companies are holding back on the 360 for some reason.
4. Some 360s are defective.
5. Microsoft is doing everything they can by sending brand new hardware instead of making everyone wait for diagnosis and repair.
6. Bundles have succeeded in pissing off everyone who have had to buy one.

Myths about the 360:
1. The number of defective 360s. (I've heard anywhere from 1% to this new 35%)
2. The date stores will have more in stock.
3. The "quality" of launch titles (I've heard everything from best launch ever to worst launch ever)

Anything else I've missed???? There seems to be a new breed of people that are extremely impatient and unable to deal with delay or disappointment. An guy from work called me the other day to vent because his apartment complex wouldn't send a handyman to fix his dishwasher on a Sunday night. It never dawned on him to wash his dishes by hand until they could come by and fix it. This doesn't relate exactly to the story but it illustrates how lazy and impatient are becoming. I 'm not a Microsoft fanboy but it seems they're trying to do right and give Mooky a replacement as long as he can show a little patience.


It's a great time to be a cheap ass gamer.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']I really have no idea why everyone for some reason thinks it acceptable for something to be broken within the first week. [/QUOTE]

I really have no idea why a bunch of people who obviously DON'T OWN a 360 are running into this thread to voice their opinion.

But hey, that's what the internet is for, bitching and whining about a subject you're completely uneducated on.
 
[quote name='mmn']I really have no idea why a bunch of people who obviously DON'T OWN a 360 are running into this thread to voice their opinion.

But hey, that's what the internet is for, bitching and whining about a subject you're completely uneducated on.[/QUOTE]


yeah i cant imagine how it would feel to have a broken 360....I have no idea why people keep defendin MSOFT when you are buyin their product and it doesnt work, and you feel like they have done nothing wrong. Its like battered wives who think they are to fault for their husband beating them.

Also how am i completely uneducated on it, a person buys a system and it breaks. This happens to a bunch of people, Micro will fix it for you, but I guess you are right, I have no idea about something as complicated as a broken system. Please share to me as an educated person about the thing I am missing in this subject.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']yeah i cant imagine how it would feel to have a broken 360....I have no idea why people keep defendin MSOFT when you are buyin their product and it doesnt work, and you feel like they have done nothing wrong. Its like battered wives who think they are to fault for their husband beating them.

Also how am i completely uneducated on it, a person buys a system and it breaks. This happens to a bunch of people, Micro will fix it for you, but I guess you are right, I have no idea about something as complicated as a broken system. Please share to me as an educated person about the thing I am missing in this subject.[/QUOTE]



This has nothing to do with battered wives but I get your point. We never said that MS has done no wrong, just that they're trying to make things right by replacing the 360. The thing is, EVERYTHING breaks down sooner or later. Somethings are broken on the assembly line, some break down in 100 years, but not every wife will be battered. I have a 2000 Dodge Neon that is a broken down piece of shit. I've thrown money down the drain on that thing for about 2 years now but is Dodge a shitty company because of my experience? No. If nothing broke, we wouldn't need warranties. If no one acted like assholes, we wouldn't need laws. If no one got sick or hurt, I'd be out of a job and we wouldn't need hospitals. It seems like this will boil down to half empty/half full argument that no one will win but hell the debate is still fun.
 
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