WWE Day of Reckoning 2

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Game shipped today and should be in most of the game stores tomorrow. Anyone else psyched for this game? After the two disappointments of Smackdown vs Raw and Wrestlemania 21, I cant wait for this game. Loved the first one and this one seems even better.
 
Wish I was getting it tomorrow, but considering I am in Baton Rouge...I don't think our shipment will be here...
 
I just got the first one and I just spent $170 on a DS and Nintendogs, so I'm waiting a little while. I will most definitely rent it, though. Can't get enough wrestling.
 
Still debating on if I want to touch this'n or not... not too big on THQ's sans-Aki efforts in the wrestling arena. ;/
 
im playing it right now, man its awesome...but the ppl stay down for so long...it takes like an hours and a half for the recovery to set in, but all in all, its not that bad, well worth the credit towards it
 
Got it at my local Gamestop and got the free Stacy Keibler poster along with it. Very good game, way better then the first one.
 
[quote name='Brak']Still debating on if I want to touch this'n or not... not too big on THQ's sans-Aki efforts in the wrestling arena. ;/[/QUOTE]

I believe that some former aki developers are actually present on the yuke's DOR team. Also, the original wwe day of reckoning (and wm 19 to a degree) feels the most like an aki developed game without actually being one. I was also a big fan of the thq-aki games in the past, and wish that aki would still develop some professional wrestling games again (although I do like Def Jam I and II). Anyway, if you haven't tried either day of reckoning game, I would recommend them. They are not as flashy as the Smackdown games, but the gameplay is solid, though not as solid as No Mercy's imo.
 
I picked this game up today, and all I can say is WOW. This is the best wrestling game (of this gen) I have ever played. Graphics, sound, gameplay are all good. I haven't started the storyline mode yet, but I just hope it isn't like the Day of Reckoning 1 storyline because that felt out of place. (Those who played DOR's know what I mean). Overall the reviews from magazines/websites for this game has been in the High 8's to Low 8's. Personally I would give this game a 9 out of 10 and would highly recommend it.
 
My friend bought the first one, and I thought it was okay. I hated how much A button tapping there was though...that and sometimes after giving someone a special move they'd get up right after the move...WTF?!

(That being said, I'm sure I'll be playing the sequal soon, because I'm sure he'll buy it...)
 
[quote name='TheRock88']Game shipped today and should be in most of the game stores tomorrow. Anyone else psyched for this game? After the two disappointments of Smackdown vs Raw and Wrestlemania 21, I cant wait for this game. Loved the first one and this one seems even better.[/QUOTE]


Wait, you mean I wasn't supposed to like Smackdown vs. Raw? Someone should have let me know this sooner cause I played the hell out of it and couldn't stand the first day of reckoning.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Wait, you mean I wasn't supposed to like Smackdown vs. Raw? Someone should have let me know this sooner cause I played the hell out of it and couldn't stand the first day of reckoning.[/QUOTE]

You may have liked it (I still play it to this day too but now that I got DOR2, SVR is going straight back to my game shelf. Only reason I still play it is for the CAW and create a ppv) but most people and review sites gave the game a lower score then the previous SD game. Personally, I think the DOR series is almost as good as the best wrestling game ever: No Mercy.
 
[quote name='thegamer4787']I believe that some former aki developers are actually present on the yuke's DOR team. Also, the original wwe day of reckoning (and wm 19 to a degree) feels the most like an aki developed game without actually being one. I was also a big fan of the thq-aki games in the past, and wish that aki would still develop some professional wrestling games again (although I do like Def Jam I and II). Anyway, if you haven't tried either day of reckoning game, I would recommend them. They are not as flashy as the Smackdown games, but the gameplay is solid, though not as solid as No Mercy's imo.[/QUOTE]

That's cool. I've never played the first Reckoning title, so this franchise of WWE games would be new to me.

I've played the ones for PS2 and Xbox and, needless to say, I thought they were embarrassingly bad and just button-mashing chaos.
 
[quote name='Brak']That's cool. I've never played the first Reckoning title, so this franchise of WWE games would be new to me.

I've played the ones for PS2 and Xbox and, needless to say, I thought they were embarrassing bad and just button-mashing chaos.[/QUOTE]
Then you won't like DoR. It's all button-mashing and the gameplay is just broken in some places. The Royal Rumble is nearly impossible to win, even on the easiest setting and placing yourself in the last slot as it's too easy for the CPU to throw you over the ring and kick you out. Unless they overhauled the gameplay completely, I'm waiting for this game to reach $9.99.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Unless they overhauled the gameplay completely...[/QUOTE]

I heard they "upgraded" it. Whatever they mean by that...

But, yeah; that button-mashing shit makes all the matches feel like they're entirely left to chance.
 
The game is awesome. Probably the only thing I'm disappointed with gameplay-wise is that once you're eliminated from a Royal Rumble, you can't re-enter as someone else. As for presentation, Batista not having his right music or pyro sucks. For MINOR details, Christian not having the C logo on his tights, no gloves on Rey and no wristbands on Orton. But overall it's probably the best current-gen WWE game I've played.

To those saying the gameplay should be changed, they're nuts. The gameplay is perfect. Why fix something if it's not broken? And it's not a button-masher. That's the Smackdown series' job. This game is a wrestling simulator, not a wrestling arcade game, which is something alot of people don't understand.
 
Button mashing if you want to easily win with submissions, other than that there isn't much button mashing at all. It's all about the counters.
 
[quote name='PsyKyX']Button mashing if you want to easily win with submissions, other than that there isn't much button mashing at all. It's all about the counters.[/QUOTE]

Uhhhhh, I thinkyou forgot to mention that you also have to button mash the A button if you want to get up when you get knocked down by your opponent.
 
[quote name='TheRock88']Uhhhhh, I thinkyou forgot to mention that you also have to button mash the A button if you want to get up when you get knocked down by your opponent.[/QUOTE]I'm speaking as someone who didn't buy the first Day of Reckoning because I couldn't stand the insane amount of forced button-mashing during every submission hold, but has there been ANY wrestling game outside of the Fire Pro games where you didn't button mash following a knockdown? To be honest, I wish they'd switch over completely to some kind of timing-based meter system (like in rhythm games) that progressively got harder as the match went on. I think the Smackdown games have some of this, right?

Also, WM XIX had a great gameplay system, I wish they could have kept it and THEN added stuff like the Momentum Shift, submission minigames instead of moving over to the extended mashing. The single-player was godawful, but the engine was pretty excellent.

I'm still not sure if I'll buy DOR 2 or not, but since I skipped last year, I feel a bit more justified. I'd rather hear from people who have actually bought or played DOR 2 about how bad the button mashing and other things are this year.
 
I'll be waiting for SD vs R 2006 personally. I got the first DoR without reading about it, and after finding out that story mode could only be done using a CAW, I turned the game off. I only kept it to do some multiplayer with my friends before selling it. I'm not falling into the same trap again this year.

Last year's SD vs R was pretty disapointing compared to HCTP and SYM. This year's SD vs R 2006 sounds like they'll have learned their lesson (even though voiceovers are still in it >_
 
In wrestlemania 19 they changed the anolog stick get up from pin and submission to the A button in the original Day of Reckoning which I though kinda of ruined the gameplay because you had to mash the hell out of the button to get up in two player mode and against the cpu. If you got knocked out of the ring in royal rumble I could not ever get back in against anyone. The old system was much better. I sure it is the same with this one but I hope they might of changed it back.
 
Well I recently got the first DoR in the CC sale. There were some things I liked about it (like the way it uses both the No Mercy two-stage grapples and the "insta-grapples" of the early Smackdown games), and other things that pissed me off. I agree that the button mashing seemed to get out of control. I felt like that little "Tap A" message would be on the screen for like 75% of the match. Get pinned? Tap A. Get put in a submission? Tap A. Perform a headlock? Tap A. Get knocked down? Tap A. Laying down tired, after performing your own move? Tap A. You bash the hell out of that poor A button. Playing the game gets really tedious because of that.

Also the collision detection was a pain in the ass whenever there are more than 2 wrestlers onscreen. If two other people do a move and it touches you, you get knocked down. This may sound cool in theory, but it gets annoying fast. Like two people will do a suplex, and the guy's foot brushes past you and WHAM - you get knocked straight down. The collision detection is way too sensitive and there's no middle ground - it would be okay if you just flinched or stumbled or something, but nope, if anything touches you you are getting knocked off your feet and taking a bump. And then of course it's back to bashing the A button until you get back on your feet. Also it doesn't help that the ring feels so small in that game. Multiplayer matches feel very claustrophobic and you seem to get knocked down every five seconds.

I hear DoR 2 has a different submission system, something weird involving the C-stick. Seems like they were trying to de-emphasize the button-mashing there. I hope they applied that idea to other areas of gameplay because sometimes the first game really did feel like a chore.

Oh and someone here said they wished for a system that used more timing-based meters.... heh, that guy should LOVE the new Smackdown vs RAW 2006. Many are complaining that there are actually too many meters in that one, but I think they got the balance right. The new finishing sleeper system is a good example... the referee drops the arm three times; each time this "drop meter" appears and you can escape by hitting X as it passes through this small, highlighted recovery zone. And if you wait until the third drop, there is an even smaller "reverse" zone just below the normal recovery area... you can take a risk and stop the meter right there to make a dramatic Hogan-like comeback... but if you miss it, the arm drops for the third time and you lose. That's a great submission system in my opinion, a welcome alternative to just mashing buttons faster than the other guy (plus the sleeper thing only works once the head has "red" damage, so it can't be abused throughout the match). Even climbing out of the cage now uses a timing-based meter, rather then just using a simple mash-fest.
 
One thing that people seemed to gripe about is the A button mashing, and the tedious and very very boring times when your character has to get up. That makes the game *very* annoying, and while I think BustaUppa has a point that it may be due to the emphasis on *one* button, I also think that it's not fun to jam on a button incessantly for 25 seconds or so before your dude gets up.

This is also evident in cage matches. Climbing up the cage takes 3 seconds, and climbing out involves jamming on the A button, again, incessantly. Not fun, not fun at all.

As a whole, the game is very good, if only a marginal improvement over the original. The submission changes only change the application or reversal of submissions. If you grapple a guy into a submission, you have four choices (u,d,l,r on the C stick, needlessly labeled as "submit," "taunt," and two other meaningless titles). If the person (or CPU) put into the submission guesses the same direction as you (if you both push left), then the submission is reversed. If not, you get the submission on. It's interesting, but its application really cuts into the otherwise fast-paced (though not SmackDown! fast, thank the maker) gameplay.

It's a fun game, and the story mode in DoR and DoR2 (thus far) are excellent, and even tie into each other. However, I should have waited until it hit $30 (though I'm not really upset over it).
 
all i can say is I dislike this game alot. It reminds me of the first one (not enough new stuff added) Also What is up with the major loading times. i got the game until tuesday (when it goes back to gamefly) Maybe i will like it the more i play it, But so far after an hour or two i can tell you think I dont care for it one bit....

Best wrestling game i played so far was Shut your mouth...
 
My copy crashed mid-match yesterday. It's only happened once (I've played maybe 30-35 matches), and it's not crashed in CAW (which some people on GF are claiming happened to them).

It's unfortunate that my defeatist attitude is accepting a game that crashes, shrugging my shoulders and thinking "It could be WM21..."
 
I bought this game on Tuesday and I still haven't opened it yet. I just finished up the story mode in DoR, and I was thinking about opening up DoR 2. I think I may just end up taking it back and saving up for the 360.
 
[quote name='RawisJericho']I bought this game on Tuesday and I still haven't opened it yet. I just finished up the story mode in DoR, and I was thinking about opening up DoR 2. I think I may just end up taking it back and saving up for the 360.[/QUOTE]

The gameplay is not remarkably different, and the roster updates aren't very impressive. Even a total indy dork as myself couldn't care about the inclusion of Paul London when given people like Chris Masters and Gene Snitsky to wrestle. Feh. Wait for it to hit $20, because this game is much more of a roster update than anything EA could be accused of.
 
I heard the game was freezing for a lot of people. I also heard that it's basically DoR 1.5. When are we going to get a decent wrestling game? WWE Smackdown: Here Comes The Pain, and WWF No Mercy are still the best US wrestling games in my opinion.
 
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