Xbox 360 bundle packages coming in October - Elite & Premium confirmed @ BB.

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I know that this has been posted previously, though searching came up with nothing.

From ArsTechnica, they're saying that we'll be getting the following coming up shortly, most likely for the holiday season:

* October 9th - 360 Premium comes with Forza 2 & Marvel Ultimate Alliance (not sure if Gold or not), no change in price; supposed to be on two separate disks
* October 23rd - Elite comes with Forza 2 & Marvel Ultimate Alliance (not sure if Gold or not), no change in price; supposed to be on two separate disks
* New Xbox Core Sku "at the end of October" that will include a new version of the system with an HDMI port, wireless controller, 256MB memory card, and five arcade games on a physical disc. The games will be Boom-Boom Rocket, Pac-man, Uno, Feeding Frenzy, and Luxor 2. This package is expected to retail for the normal Core price of $279.99.

Original artice is over here:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/09/26/mole-report-xbox-360-to-get-forza-2-and-marvel-ultimate-alliance-pack-in

Pointers to the original thread on CAG would be appreciated, and mods, feel free to roll this into the original thread.

Confirmed by Apossum about the Premium w/2 games and Elite w/2 games on BB.com:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153972
 
[quote name='shrike4242']
* New Xbox Core Sku "at the end of October" that will include a new version of the system with an HDMI port, wireless controller, 256MB memory card, and five arcade games on a physical disc. The games will be Boom-Boom Rocket, Pac-man, Uno, Feeding Frenzy, and Luxor 2. This package is expected to retail for the normal Core price of $279.99.
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Mainly interested in the new "chips" but I'm assuming it only deals with the core packages...bummer if it is
 
My local Best Buy has the Top Spin 2 bundle although I haven't seen it anywhere else. Hopefully MS will release a better bundle(s?) by Christmas.
 
I read this on another site too. I just want a system that won't crap out on me a few months after I buy it. I have enough money for a Premium and a game card so I might just do that.

I don't really care for realistic racers and I heard Marvel was so-so. I'd wait, but I really want to play some of those Live Arcade games now.
 
I saw pictures of the packaging for this a month or so ago, but it was just a rumor, and I suppose it still is.

Edit: Yeah, it was here.

Edit of the Edit: Original thread is here.
 
Won't entice me much as really have little interest in Forza or Marvel.

Will keep hoping for a price drop to $300, or Amazon or another store to put together there own bundle with something like Gears included for free at $349.
 
[quote name='Foo228']Mainly interested in the new "chips" but I'm assuming it only deals with the core packages...bummer if it is[/QUOTE]

Assuming you mean the 65NM chips and the falcon motherboard, I imagine those will just get snuck in at some point, and it will just be a matter of looking under the flap and seeing "falcon" rather than "zephyr."
 
thanks for the info - I guess this may be when I cave in and get one. I loved Forza and can't wait for PGR4 so this would be a good deal for me. This is about the time I got my original xbox also - it came packed with splinter cell and mechassault...
 
Free 2 games is awsome but i wanted new .65nm chips. Without new chips free games is useless. If MS new bundles with new chips and free games is steal ever but still hope another $50 - $100 price drop.
 
ive said it in a few other threads, and ill say it here. if the core has the 65nm chip ill be picking one up, wouldnt mind having the memory card either to back up my saves.
 
So where do you look on the packaging to figure out which chip it has? I'll be getting a 360 soon, and since I work at TRU I get to pick out the particular one I want from the back. I want to make sure I get one of the good ones.
 
[quote name='Masterkyo']Free 2 games is awsome but i wanted new .65nm chips. Without new chips free games is useless. If MS new bundles with new chips and free games is steal ever but still hope another $50 - $100 price drop.[/quote]
I doubt that we'll see another price drop until fall 2008 at the earliest, unless Sony drops the price on the PS3 first.
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']I doubt that we'll see another price drop until fall 2008 at the earliest, unless Sony drops the price on the PS3 first.[/QUOTE]

There's a strong rumor that Sony will be putting out a 40GB PS3 bundled with Spiderman 3 on Blu Ray for $399 this fall. See the PS3 forum for the thread.

If that happens, MS would be foolish not to drop the premium to $299.

$50 more than a premium to get a next gen game machine and a Blu Ray player would be very tempting. $100 difference and I definitely go 360.
 
But I mean what does it say? Is it a certain number I'm looking for, or will the actual word "falcon" be printed there?
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I know that this has been posted previously, though searching came up with nothing.

From ArsTechnica, they're saying that we'll be getting the following coming up shortly, most likely for the holiday season:

* October 9th - 360 Premium comes with Forza 2 & Marvel Ultimate Alliance (not sure if Gold or not), no change in price; supposed to be on two separate disks
* October 23rd - Elite comes with Forza 2 & Marvel Ultimate Alliance (not sure if Gold or not), no change in price; supposed to be on two separate disks
* New Xbox Core Sku "at the end of October" that will include a new version of the system with an HDMI port, wireless controller, 256MB memory card, and five arcade games on a physical disc. The games will be Boom-Boom Rocket, Pac-man, Uno, Feeding Frenzy, and Luxor 2. This package is expected to retail for the normal Core price of $279.99.

Original artice is over here:
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/09/26/mole-report-xbox-360-to-get-forza-2-and-marvel-ultimate-alliance-pack-in

Pointers to the original thread on CAG would be appreciated, and mods, feel free to roll this into the original thread.[/quote]
you know what that means!? 65nm

the timing is right in line w/ what Dean Takahashi predicted.
 
[quote name='Dunvane']But I mean what does it say? Is it a certain number I'm looking for, or will the actual word "falcon" be printed there?[/QUOTE]


Yes. It currently has "zephyr" in with the numbers. Should have "falcon" when those chips are in (unless they change the name).
 
[quote name='Apossum']
so if you buy a system within a month, can you exchange for this bundle later? Does BB have some kind of upgrade policy?[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. Would definitely be a huge YMMV. Maybe if the store didn't have any regular premiums in place they'd swap it out for a bundle. But it would have to be broken (or you could lie and hope they don't test it).

Best Buy doesn't do anything about upgrading when a bundle comes out etc. I don't know any stores that do. Just 30 day price guarantee on the same item.
 
I'm guessing they are using this bundle to clear out all of the old 360s. I'm also going to guess that MUA is the old version. That way people will spend their points on the DLC.
 
The question now (besides the chip set) is going to be what version of M:UA are we getting? Oh also will the Live Arcade disc also be available for sale on the cheap elsewhere?
 
[quote name='propeller_head']you know what that means!? 65nm

the timing is right in line w/ what Dean Takahashi predicted.[/QUOTE]
Why would they add incentive to the new and improved model instead of the old, defective, "man we really gotta get rid of these" model?
 
[quote name='furyk']The question now (besides the chip set) is going to be what version of M:UA are we getting? Oh also will the Live Arcade disc also be available for sale on the cheap elsewhere?[/QUOTE]

As the other guy said a few post above, will more likely be the old version so that they can make some money on DLC.
 
I would be surprise if these have the 65 nm chipset. There would have been an announcement about the new chipset already. This bundle is probably to clear out all the old stock of the old chipsets so that they can start creating 360 with the new chipset next year.
 
I doubt they'll have teh 65nm chips either, need to clear out the old stock first and a bundle is a good way to do so.

Though I don't expect their to ever be an announcement about the 65nm chips. They'll just get snuck in at somepoint, and we'll hear about it when someone sees "falcon" instead of "zephyr" under the serial number flap.

It's not a big enough revision (like adding HDMI) to make an announcement, especially since it would just be negative press, again dredging up the earlier announcement that all 360s were defective.
 
They will never announce they are putting in 65nm chips. You'd have to be high to think so.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. 65nm chips do only one thing, lower cost of production for Microsoft. They won't have nearly as much effect on Xbox stability as the heatsinks added to them in July.

65nm mania really needs to stop. It really is a faith-based religion.
 
The cost reduction is the main thing for me, I just want them to roll out as they'll likely coincide with another price drop--and $300 is highest I go, barring some retailer actually giving away a couple of games that I actually want.
 
Awsome, I will totally bite on that core with all that stuff. I can still get online with the core right?
 
[quote name='Blackout542']Awsome, I will totally bite on that core with all that stuff. I can still get online with the core right?[/quote]

Yup.
 
[quote name='Blackout542']Awsome, I will totally bite on that core with all that stuff. I can still get online with the core right?[/quote]Yes, you can. Only difference between the current core and the current premium is the following:

Current Core:
No hard drive or memory card
Composite cables
Wired controller
No HDMI

Premium:
20GB hard drive
Component/composite cables
Wireless controller
HDMI port

The "new" core would have the following differences:
"New" Core:
256MB memory card
Composite cable - no confirmation of component/composite cables in the box
Wireless controller
HDMI port

Both systems have Ethernet, or would accept the wireless adapter for getting online.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Yes, you can. Only difference between the current core and the current premium is the following:

Current Core:
No hard drive or memory card
Composite cables
Wired controller
No HDMI

Premium:
20GB hard drive
Component/composite cables
Wireless controller
HDMI port

The "new" core would have the following differences:
"New" Core:
256MB memory card
Composite cable - no confirmation of component/composite cables in the box
Wireless controller
HDMI port

Both systems have Ethernet, or would accept the wireless adapter for getting online.[/quote]

Hmm would I be better off getting the premium? Also I have wireless internet. Is it a pain to hookup?
 
[quote name='Blackout542']Hmm would I be better off getting the premium? Also I have wireless internet. Is it a pain to hookup?[/quote]If the new core comes with five of those arcade games, it's like $20-$30 worth of XBLA games you're getting included in the price. If you need to hook it up via component and it doesn't come with the component cables, you'd need to buy those, which would be $10 and up, depending on the cables.

If your 360 would be in the same room as your router, then you could just run an Ethernet cable to it, which I know the Premium comes with, not sure about the Core. If it's not in the same room, then you'd need to buy the wireless adapter ($99 MSRP) or an Ethernet-to-wireless bridge, which could be $30+, depending on what you'd need to buy. Any 360 has this issue, as it doesn't come with wireless already on-board.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The cost reduction is the main thing for me, I just want them to roll out as they'll likely coincide with another price drop--and $300 is highest I go, barring some retailer actually giving away a couple of games that I actually want.[/QUOTE]



I'm wondering if the bundled games aren't in lieu of the savings on a 65nm, as a way to avoid a price drop, and make the package more attractive at the same time.
 
[quote name='Apossum']I'm wondering if the bundled games aren't in lieu of the savings on a 65nm, as a way to avoid a price drop, and make the package more attractive at the same time.[/QUOTE]

It could be. In which case I pass as $350 for the 360 and two games I have zero interest in doesn't entice me at all.

But with it seemingly confirmed (see FCC news in the thread in PS3 forum) that Sony is putting out a 40GB PS3 soon for $399 it's tough to see the 360 staying at $349.

PS3 with it's blu ray player looks awfully good at only $50 more than a console with a history of failure. At least to me anyway.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']It could be. In which case I pass as $350 for the 360 and two games I have zero interest in doesn't entice me at all.

But with it seemingly confirmed (see FCC news in the thread in PS3 forum) that Sony is putting out a 40GB PS3 soon for $399 it's tough to see the 360 staying at $349.

PS3 with it's blu ray player looks awfully good at only $50 more than a console with a history of failure. At least to me anyway.[/QUOTE]


The blu-ray player looks good, but I don't think they have much to worry about otherwise, at least not enough to warrant a price drop. At this point, after the Halo 3 launch, they are slapping the PS3 silly...the september NPD is going to be a bloodbath and the rest of the holiday season will be too. I just don't see Sony surpassing the 360 in sales any time soon--except maybe for the MGS4 launch. but that might be buried by GTA4.

who knows, they may just drop it to continue to move closer to the Wii instead, rather than avoid sony.
 
No, they don't have to worry about sony catching them anytime soon for sure.

But I could see a price drop to $300 just to stay $100 cheaper than Sony for PR reasons--not to stay ahead but to just keep kicking them in the Nads.

And as you mention, to bring then closer to the Wii price.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']If the new core comes with five of those arcade games, it's like $20-$30 worth of XBLA games you're getting included in the price. If you need to hook it up via component and it doesn't come with the component cables, you'd need to buy those, which would be $10 and up, depending on the cables.

If your 360 would be in the same room as your router, then you could just run an Ethernet cable to it, which I know the Premium comes with, not sure about the Core. If it's not in the same room, then you'd need to buy the wireless adapter ($99 MSRP) or an Ethernet-to-wireless bridge, which could be $30+, depending on what you'd need to buy. Any 360 has this issue, as it doesn't come with wireless already on-board.[/quote]

Ouch. That adapter is costly. Hopefully I can get a sweet deal on 360. Halo just put me over the top in me wanting a 360. There are a lot of games I want to play. I take it Premium is staying the same price? Will it go for less without the bundle?
 
[quote name='Blackout542']Ouch. That adapter is costly. Hopefully I can get a sweet deal on 360. Halo just put me over the top in me wanting a 360. There are a lot of games I want to play. I take it Premium is staying the same price? Will it go for less without the bundle?[/QUOTE]

Staying the same (for now anyway), and I doubt they'll drop the price of the non-bundles. Didn't happen last gen with the Sega GT/JSRF bundle coming out anyway.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Why would they add incentive to the new and improved model instead of the old, defective, "man we really gotta get rid of these" model?[/quote]
i can only assume the non bundled ones will get a small price drop. think about it, if they didnt. and people saw they could get one w/ 2 free games for the same price, the older ones would just sit and rot on the shelf forever.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Yes, you can. Only difference between the current core and the current premium is the following:

Current Core:
No hard drive or memory card
Composite cables
Wired controller
No HDMI

Premium:
20GB hard drive
Component/composite cables
Wireless controller
HDMI port

The "new" core would have the following differences:
"New" Core:
256MB memory card
Composite cable - no confirmation of component/composite cables in the box
Wireless controller
HDMI port

Both systems have Ethernet, or would accept the wireless adapter for getting online.[/quote]
isnt the new core a gray too?
 
[quote name='propeller_head']i can only assume the non bundled ones will get a small price drop. think about it, if they didnt. and people saw they could get one w/ 2 free games for the same price, the older ones would just sit and rot on the shelf forever.[/QUOTE]

They're probably hoping to sell through most of those before the bundle comes out, and the bundle will be a limited time thing, so they can just sell them for the current MSRP down the road after the bundles are all sold out and people have no choice.

Same thing happened with the Sega GT/Jet Set Radio bundle of the original X-box. Went for same price as the console, and the console only stayed the same both while it was out, and after it was sold through.

The bundle is just to spike holiday sales some.
 
[quote name='propeller_head']isnt the new core a gray too?[/quote]I haven't seen anything about a color change, so that might be the case. The old thread (mentioned in the first page of this one) might've shown a picture of it, though everyone though it was a bad Photoshop job.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Staying the same (for now anyway), and I doubt they'll drop the price of the non-bundles. Didn't happen last gen with the Sega GT/JSRF bundle coming out anyway.[/quote]
true. but the supply wasnt as large i dont think (thats about the time i decied to get a xbox and i didnt see any non bundles anywhere when deal shopping). unless MS cut off supply before the Halo 3 edition. but i havent seen any lack of 360 stock anywhere. maybe the picture will look different in Oct.
 
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