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Welcome to the Xbox Deals and Discussion thread.

General info
  • You cannot currently buy any Xbox 360 content on xbox.com using your account balance, you can only use an active credit card or PayPal. To use your balance, you must make purchases on your console. Unfortunately, even "purchasing" free content through the web site like trials requires an alternative method of payment tied to your account, though adding an empty MasterCard / Visa gift card that is registered for online purchases will work. Xbox One games can be purchased on the web site with your account balance.
  • Some sales are intended for Gold subscribers only, as noted within each section.
    On Xbox One, Gold trials of any length work for sales and Games with Gold. You must be an active Gold subscriber (paid or trial) to play Games with Gold purchases.
  • On Xbox 360, you must have at least a 1 month Gold subscription for sales and Games with Gold. Neither 48 hour trials, 14 day trials nor free weekends qualify.

  • All known sales and information on sales should make their way into the OP. Major Nelson usually updates his blog with new sales information every Tuesday.
  • ALL OFFERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE! No information within this thread can or should be construed as accurate (or still valid), therefore ...
  • Always verify Xbox Live Marketplace prices before your purchase!
  • Spend wisely, have fun, and enjoy!

Latest Sales Posts​

Jun 17 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Jun 13 - CDPR

Jun 12 - Assetto Corsa / Isonzo / MLB The Show Stubs

Jun 10 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

Jun 3 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

May 30 - Skull & Bones

May 29 - Assetto Corsa Competizione

May 28 - Tera Coins / Terminal 81

May 27 - Weekly Sale - Last chance

May 23 - Activision

May 22 - Warhammer

May 21 - "Just for Everyone" deals - Party Games

May 20 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

May 16 - Mid-week drops

May 13 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

May 13 - Non-BC discounts

May 6 - Weekly Sale

Apr 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

Apr 22 - Weekly Sale - Last chance

Apr 18 - Game Pass Super Saver / Publisher Spotlight

Apr 15 - Weekly Sale - Follow up / Last chance

Apr 8 - Weekly Sale - Last chance (discounts ending morning of Apr 9)​

Apr 4 - Spring Sale - Part 2

Apr 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Mar 28 - Spring Sale Sneak Preview

Mar 25 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Mar 18 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Mar 11 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Mar 4 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Feb 26 - Weekly Sale

Feb 19 - Weekly Sale

Feb 14 - Anime Month, Pt 2

Feb 12 - Weekly Sale

Feb 5 - Weekly Sale

Jan 31 - Anime Month

Jan 29 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Jan 22 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Jan 16 - Exoprimal / Street Fighter 6

Jan 15 - Weekly Sale

Jan 8 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Jan 2 - Last Chance Sale

Jan 1 - Weekly Sale - Follow up

Dec 25 - Weekly Sale

Dec 18 - Weekly Sale

Countdown Sale - Post 1 - Post 2 - Post 3 - Follow up

Latest Countdown Posts​

Game Pass potential departure dates​

Last updated - 2024-06-22
What is this?
Game prices in the Xbox store have a UTC end date associated with them. These dates generally fall into 5 categories :
  1. The item is currently on sale. These are usually the weekly sale items that end Tuesday mornings at 09:59:59 UTC.
  2. The item will go on sale, usually within 2-3 weeks. These are usually set to switch at 23:59:59 UTC, like the weekly sale on Monday evenings. Some of the major annual sales (Spring, Summer, Black Friday, Holiday) start on Thursday evening UTC, and some times appear to be random.
  3. The item is on Game Pass and is not currently or going to be on sale in the next few weeks. Third party games generally cluster around 09:59:59 UTC on the 1st and 16th of each month. Currently, at least one game is associated with every 1st and 16th through January 2025. The dates then spread out, ending with Human Fall Flat on July 1, 2028.
  4. First party and EA Play titles are farther out, starting in 2049, with many in 2799 and 9998.
  5. No date - some items do not have a price and so don't have a date. If the item is part of a bundle that has a price, the date from the bundle is used.
The list below uses the dates associated with games on Game Pass and EA Play. Time stamps in red are the regular Game Pass departure times and titles in red are confirmed to be leaving, either from Microsoft's regular news postings or by devs / publishers. Items available through Game Pass Core, currently on sale or not available for purchase are also color coded.

The date associated with a Game Pass game is not a guarantee it will leave on that date, but since March 2023 when the price data started getting analyzed, every game that's left Game Pass had been flagged as leaving on that date. It's given a number of people an extra heads up on the generally 2 week notice Microsoft provides.

If you have any questions about the list, please ask in the thread.

Most likely current and pending sales
2024-06-24 23:59:59
Amnesia: The Bunker​
Crusader Kings III​
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core
EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​
Hello Neighbor 2​
Mortal Kombat 11​
My Time At Portia​
NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​
NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​
Planet of Lana​
Somerville​
The Evil Within​
The Evil Within (PC) (PC)​
The Evil Within® 2​
The Evil Within® 2 (PC) (PC)​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​
The Walking Dead: The Final Season - The Complete Season​

2024-06-25 09:59:59
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​
Arx Fatalis (PC)​
Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core
Conan Exiles​
Dead Island 2​
Descenders - Game Pass Core
Dicey Dungeons​
DOOM (1993)​
DOOM 3​
DOOM 64​
DOOM II (Classic)​
Dordogne​
Dordogne (Windows) (PC)​
House Flipper​
Immortals Fenyx Rising™​
Injustice™ 2​
Injustice™ 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​
Lonely Mountains: Downhill​
My Friend Peppa Pig​
Ni no Kuni™ II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​
Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Quake​
Quake 4 (PC)​
Quake II​
Quake III Arena (PC)​
RAGE​
RAGE 2​
RAGE 2 (PC) (PC)​
Return to Castle Wolfenstein (PC)​
Roboquest​
SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated​
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard (PC)​
The Walking Dead: Season Two​
Wolfenstein 3D (PC)​
Wreckfest - Game Pass Core

2024-07-01 23:59:59
A Plague Tale: Requiem​
Chants of Sennaar​
Evil West​
Isonzo​
Let's Build a Zoo​
TOEM​

2024-07-02 09:59:59
Anuchard​
Assassin's Creed® Valhalla​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​
Venba​

2024-06-22 13:59:59
Galacticare​
Hauntii​
2024-06-23 09:59:59
Minecraft​
Minecraft Dungeons​
Minecraft Dungeons for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)
Minecraft Dungeons for Windows + Launcher (PC)​
Minecraft for Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)
Minecraft Legends​
Minecraft Legends - Windows (PC) (Not available for purchase)
Minecraft Legends for Windows + Launcher (PC)​
Minecraft: Java & Bedrock Edition for PC (PC)​
Minecraft: Java Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)
2024-06-25 13:59:59
Football Manager 2024 (PC)​
Football Manager 2024 Console​
2024-06-25 23:59:59
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core
2024-06-26 15:59:59
Open Roads​
2024-06-26 21:59:59
Train Sim World® 4: Standard Edition​
2024-06-29 16:59:59
Humanity​
2024-07-01 09:59:59
Arcade Paradise​
Batman™: Arkham Knight​
Cricket 22​
F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch​
Far Cry® 5​
Generation Zero®​
Injustice™ 2​
Injustice™ 2 - Standard Edition (PC)​
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy​
STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Digital Edition​
STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC)​
STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town - Windows Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)
STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town (Not available for purchase)
Stranded Deep​
Stranded Deep (PC)​
Sword and Fairy: Together Forever​
2024-07-01 16:59:59
Tell Me Why: Chapter 2 (Not available for purchase)
Tell Me Why: Chapter 3 (Not available for purchase)
Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​
2024-07-04 13:59:59
Rolling Hills: Make Sushi, Make Friends​
2024-07-05 23:59:59
OCTOPATH TRAVELER II​
2024-07-08 13:59:59
Botany Manor​
Botany Manor (PC)​
2024-07-15 12:59:59
Harold Halibut​
2024-07-16 09:59:59
Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus and Butterfly​
Common'hood​
Figment 2: Creed Valley​
Forager​
Forager (PC)​
Frostpunk (PC)​
Frostpunk: Console Edition​
Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™ (moved from 2024-01-01)
My Friend Peppa Pig​
Neon Abyss​
Neon Abyss (PC)​
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion (PC)​
The Wandering Village (Game Preview)​
TOEM​
Watch Dogs®2​
2024-07-18 08:59:59
Still Wakes the Deep​
2024-07-22 13:59:59
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes​
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Not available for purchase)
2024-07-24 15:59:59
Another Crab's Treasure​
2024-07-25 12:59:59
Manor Lords (Game Preview) (PC)​
2024-07-28 17:59:59
The Rewinder​
2024-08-01 09:59:59
A Short Hike​
Genesis Noir​
Genesis Noir: Windows Edition (PC)​
Goat Simulator (moved from 2024-05-01)
Inkulinati​
Roboquest​
This War of Mine: Final Cut (moved from 2024-05-16)
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands - Standard Edition (Game Pass only SKU)​
Train Sim World® 4 (Not available for purchase)
Train Sim World® 4: Standard Edition​
Turbo Golf Racing​
Venba​
2024-08-07 15:59:59
Little Kitty, Big City​
2024-08-16 09:59:59
Airborne Kingdom​
Atomic Heart​
Atomic Heart (Windows) (PC)​
Conan Exiles​
EVERSPACE™ 2​
HUMANKIND™​
HUMANKIND™ (PC)​
Offworld Trading Company (PC)​
Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition​
Shadow Warrior 3: Definitive Edition (PC)​
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre​
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - PC Edition (PC)​
2024-08-19 07:59:59
Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II​
2024-09-01 09:59:59
Call of the Wild: The Angler™​
Disney Dreamlight Valley​
Goat Simulator Windows 10 (PC)​
Guilty Gear -Strive-​
Immortals Fenyx Rising™​
NBA 2K24 for Xbox One​
NBA 2K24 for Xbox Series X|S​
2024-09-16 09:59:59
Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation (PC)​
Assassin's Creed® Odyssey​
Ni no Kuni™ II: Revenant Kingdom - The Prince's Edition​
Party Animals (moved from 2024-01-04)
PAYDAY 3​
Slime Rancher 2​
SpiderHeck​
Valheim (Game Preview)​
You Suck at Parking® Complete Edition​
2024-10-01 09:59:59
Cocoon​
Gotham Knights​
Let's Build a Zoo​
Loop Hero​
My Time At Portia (moved from 2024-01-09)
My Time At Portia (PC)​
PAW Patrol: Grand Prix​
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy​
The Walking Dead: Season 1 (PC)​
The Walking Dead: Season 2 (PC)​
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide​
2024-10-16 09:59:59
Dyson Sphere Program (Game Preview) (PC)​
F1® Manager 2023​
From Space​
Like a Dragon: Ishin!​
Scorn​
Stellaris (PC)​
Stellaris: Console Edition​
2024-11-01 09:59:59
Deep Rock Galactic - Game Pass Core
Football Manager 2024 (PC)​
Football Manager 2024 Console​
Frog Detective: The Entire Mystery (moved from 2023-11-01)
Headbangers: Rhythm Royale​
Lonely Mountains: Downhill​
Mineko's Night Market​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2 (PC)​
2024-11-16 09:59:59
Dicey Dungeons​
Dune: Spice Wars​
Dungeons 4​
Dungeons 4 (Win) (PC)​
Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name​
Persona 5 Tactica​
Somerville​
2024-12-01 09:59:59
Amnesia: The Bunker​
Car Mechanic Simulator 2021​
Clone Drone in the Danger Zone​
Monster Sanctuary​
Monster Sanctuary (Windows Version) (PC)​
Moonlighter​
PAW Patrol Mighty Pups Save Adventure Bay​
Remnant: From the Ashes​
Rise of the Tomb Raider (PC)​
Rollerdrome​
Soccer Story​
Spirit of the North: Enhanced Edition​
The Walking Dead: The Final Season - The Complete Season​
The Walking Dead: The Final Season (PC)​
While the Iron's Hot​
World War Z: Aftermath​
World War Z: Aftermath (PC)​
2024-12-16 09:59:59
Ben 10: Power Trip​
Hello Neighbor 2​
No Man's Sky​
Rainbow Billy: The Curse of the Leviathan​
The Gunk​
The Quarry for Xbox One​
The Quarry for Xbox Series X|S​
Tin Hearts​
2025-01-01 09:59:59
BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle Special Edition​
Close to the Sun​
Close to the Sun. (PC)​
Death's Door​
Death's Door (PC)​
Hell Let Loose​
House Flipper​
LEGO® 2K Drive Cross-Gen Standard Edition​
LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox One​
LEGO® 2K Drive for Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)
McPixel 3​
2025-01-16 09:59:59
Exoprimal​
Figment: Journey Into the Mind​
Insurgency: Sandstorm​
Insurgency: Sandstorm (Windows) (PC)​
Maquette​
Medieval Dynasty (moved from 2024-02-16)
Medieval Dynasty (Xbox One)​
Palworld (Game Preview)​
Those Who Remain​
Those Who Remain. (PC)​
2025-02-01 09:59:59
Anuchard​
Broforce​
Brotato​
Crusader Kings III​
Crusader Kings III (PC)​
Darkest Dungeon PC (PC)​
Darkest Dungeon®​
Escape Academy​
Go Mecha Ball​
MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase)
MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)
Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord (moved from 2024-02-16)
Persona 3 Reload​
Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem​
Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem (PC)​
2025-02-16 09:59:59
A Little to the Left​
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night​
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (PC)​
Return to Grace​
Tales of Arise​
Tales of Arise (Windows) (PC)​
Tales of Arise (Xbox One) (Not available for purchase)
Tales of Arise (Xbox Series X|S) (Not available for purchase)
2025-03-01 09:59:59
Bluey: The Videogame​
Dead Island 2​
GRIS​
Gris (PC)​
Indivisible​
Indivisible (PC)​
Maneater​
Merge & Blade​
PAW Patrol World​
Space Engineers​
Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun​
Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun - Windows (PC)​
Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (Not available for purchase)
2025-03-16 09:59:59
Evil West​
Evil West (Windows) (PC)​
Lies of P​
No More Heroes 3 Windows (PC)​
No More Heroes 3 Xbox​
No More Heroes 3 Xbox​
Solar Ash​
SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated​
SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated (PC)​
TUNIC (moved from 2024-04-01)
2025-04-01 09:59:59
HOT WHEELS UNLEASHED™ 2 - Turbocharged​
Lil Gator Game​
Monster Hunter Rise (moved from 2024-04-01)
Terra Invicta (Game Preview) (PC)​
The Lamplighters League - PC Edition (PC)​
The Yakuza Remastered Collection (moved from 2024-04-01)
The Yakuza Remastered Collection for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 0 (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 0 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 3 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 3 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 4 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 4 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 5 Remastered (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 5 Remastered for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza Kiwami (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza Kiwami 2 (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza Kiwami 2 for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza Kiwami for Windows 10 (PC) (moved from 2024-04-01)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (moved from 2024-04-01)
Zombie Army 4: Dead War​
2025-04-16 09:59:59
A Plague Tale: Requiem​
A Plague Tale: Requiem - Windows (PC)​
Coral Island​
Homestead Arcana​
Kona​
Orcs Must Die! 3​
Rise of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Not available for purchase)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Definitive Edition​
2025-05-01 09:59:59
Have a Nice Death​
Kona II: Brume​
LEGO® Star Wars™: The Skywalker Saga (Game Pass only SKU) (Not available for purchase)
Sniper Elite 5​
The Last Case of Benedict Fox: Definitive Edition​
Thirsty Suitors​
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition​
2025-05-16 09:59:59
Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons​
Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons (PC)​
Chants of Sennaar​
Chants of Sennaar (Windows) (PC)​
Farming Simulator 22​
Farming Simulator 22 PC (PC)​
Jurassic World Evolution 2​
Planet of Lana​
2025-06-01 09:59:59
Against the Storm (PC)​
Cassette Beasts​
Firework (Windows) (PC)​
Goat Simulator 3​
Goat Simulator 3: Windows Edition (PC)​
Hypnospace Outlaw​
Moving Out 2​
PAYDAY 2: CRIMEWAVE EDITION - Game Pass Core
Remnant II® - Standard Edition​
Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath: Vengance of the Slayer​
The Big Con​
2025-06-16 09:59:59
Depersonalization (PC)​
Far Cry® 6​
Isonzo​
Isonzo (Windows) (PC)​
Keplerth (PC)​
My Time at Sandrock​
My Time at Sandrock (Not available for purchase)
Sandrock Online (Not available for purchase)
Shadowrun Returns​
Shadowrun Trilogy​
Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut​
Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition​
The Callisto Protocol™ for Xbox One​
The Callisto Protocol™ for Xbox Series X|S​
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege (Not available for purchase)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Siege Deluxe Edition​
2025-07-15 09:59:59
Turnip Boy Robs a Bank​
2025-07-16 09:59:59
Assassin's Creed® Valhalla​
2025-08-01 09:59:59
Cooking Simulator (moved from 2024-02-16)
Cooking Simulator Windows (PC) (moved from 2024-02-16)
NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor's Edge (Not available for purchase) (moved from 2024-06-16)
NINJA GAIDEN Σ (Not available for purchase) (moved from 2024-06-16)
NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 (Not available for purchase) (moved from 2024-06-16)
NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection (moved from 2024-06-16)
Starbound (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)
2025-08-16 09:59:59
PlateUp!​
2025-09-01 09:59:59
Sea of Stars​
2025-09-16 09:59:59
RESIDENT EVIL 2​
2025-10-16 09:59:59
Cities: Skylines II - PC Edition (PC)​
RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Windows (PC)​
2025-11-01 09:59:59
Jusant​
Return to Monkey Island​
Wartales​
2025-11-16 09:59:59
Spirittea​
2025-12-01 09:59:59
Lords of the Fallen​
Lords of the Fallen (PC)​
OCTOPATH TRAVELER​
SteamWorld Build​
2025-12-16 09:59:59
Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition​
2026-03-16 09:59:59
Lightyear Frontier (Game Preview)​
2026-04-01 09:59:59
Cities: Skylines - Remastered​
Cities: Skylines - Windows 10 Edition (PC)​
Cities: Skylines - Xbox One Edition​
2026-05-01 09:59:59
Citizen Sleeper​
DayZ (moved from 2024-05-01)
Descenders - Game Pass Core
2026-05-16 09:59:59
Shadowrun Returns PC (PC)​
Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut PC (PC)​
Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition PC (PC)​
2026-06-01 09:59:59
ASTRONEER - Game Pass Core
Dead by Daylight​
Dead by Daylight Windows (PC)​
theHunter: Call of the Wild™​
theHunter: Call of the Wild™ - Windows 10 (PC)​
2026-06-16 09:59:59
Among Us - Game Pass Core
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge - Game Pass Core
2026-07-01 09:59:59
Slay The Spire - Game Pass Core
Slay The Spire (PC)​
Unpacking - Game Pass Core
2026-07-16 09:59:59
Golf With Your Friends - Game Pass Core
Golf With Your Friends (Windows Version) (PC)​
PowerWash Simulator - Game Pass Core (moved from 2024-07-16)
Techtonica (Game Preview)​
2026-08-01 09:59:59
Celeste - Game Pass Core
INSIDE - Game Pass Core
2026-08-16 09:59:59
Firewatch - Game Pass Core
LIMBO - Game Pass Core
LIMBO (PC)​
2026-09-16 09:59:59
Dead Cells - Game Pass Core
Dead Cells (PC)​
Spiritfarer®: Farewell Edition - Game Pass Core
Superliminal - Game Pass Core
2026-10-01 09:59:59
Chivalry 2 - Game Pass Core
2026-11-16 09:59:59
Wreckfest - Game Pass Core
Wreckfest (PC)​
2026-12-01 09:59:59
Stardew Valley - Game Pass Core
Stardew Valley (PC)​
Totally Reliable Delivery Service - Game Pass Core
Vampire Survivors - Game Pass Core
2027-02-01 09:59:59
Trailmakers​
2027-03-16 09:59:59
Control​
Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 1 The Foundation (PC)​
Control Standard Edition - Control Expansion Pack 2 AWE (PC)​
Control Standard Edition (PC)​
Control Ultimate Edition​
Control Ultimate Edition - Xbox Series X|S​
Control Ultimate Edition (PC)​
2027-04-01 09:59:59
SUPERHOT: MIND CONTROL DELETE - Game Pass Core
2027-05-01 09:59:59
SnowRunner (moved from 2024-05-01)
SnowRunner (Windows 10) (PC) (moved from 2024-05-01)
2027-06-01 09:59:59
Terraria​
2027-06-16 09:59:59
Totally Accurate Battle Simulator​
2027-07-01 09:59:59
Assassin's Creed® Origins​
FOR HONOR​
2027-12-16 09:59:59
Overcooked! 2 - Game Pass Core
Overcooked! 2 (PC)​
2028-07-01 09:59:59
Human Fall Flat - Game Pass Core

Far future dates, mostly first party and EA Play
2048-12-30 23:59:59
Dead Space - EA Play - 2023-10-26​
EA SPORTS™ PGA TOUR™ - EA Play -​
F1® 23 - EA Play -​
GRID Legends - EA Play - 2022-09-01​
Madden NFL 24 - EA Play -​
STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor™ - EA Play -​
Super Mega Baseball™ 4 - EA Play -​
WILD HEARTS™ Standard Edition - EA Play -​
2049-12-30 23:59:59
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition​
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (4K HDR bundle) (PC)​
Madden NFL 24 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
Madden NFL 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase) - EA Play -​
NHL® 24 Xbox One - EA Play -​
NHL® 24 Xbox Series X|S - EA Play -​
2098-12-31 23:59:59
Battlefield™ 1 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
NBA LIVE 19 - EA Play - 2019-05-10​
Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
2099-02-01 19:59:59
Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition - Game Pass Core
2099-04-04 09:59:59
Halo Wars 2 (Not available for purchase)
2099-04-18 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 2​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 3​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 4​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 5​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1 - The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Season Pass (Episodes 2-5)​
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5)​
2099-10-02 23:59:59
Forza Horizon 4 Formula Drift Car Pack​
2099-12-29 23:59:59
State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition - Game Pass Core
2100-06-12 23:59:59
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood​
2220-10-06 03:59:59
Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit Remastered - EA Play - 2021-06-25​
2220-10-13 23:59:59
Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition - EA Play -​
2220-10-22 23:59:59
Battlefield™ V (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2020-06-20​
2220-12-11 23:59:59
It Takes Two - Digital Version - EA Play - 2021-11-03​
2779-12-30 23:59:59
DIRT 5 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​
DiRT Rally 2.0 - EA Play - 2021-08-10​
2798-12-30 21:59:59
Wasteland Remastered​
2798-12-31 23:59:59
Fuzion Frenzy®​
The Elder Scrolls® Online - Game Pass Core
Zoo Tycoon: Ultimate Animal Collection​
2799-01-14 23:59:59
Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition (PC)​
2799-02-01 09:59:59
Halo Wars 2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)
2799-02-08 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season​
2799-02-08 23:59:59
Forza Horizon 5 Standard Edition​
2799-02-17 23:59:59
Wolfenstein: Youngblood​
Wolfenstein: Youngblood (PC) (PC)​
2799-02-28 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: Season Two​
2799-03-02 23:59:59
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (PC)​
2799-03-07 23:59:59
Halo Infinite (Campaign)​
2799-03-11 23:59:59
Dishonored® Definitive Edition​
Dishonored® Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​
DOOM (1993)​
DOOM 3​
DOOM 64​
DOOM II (Classic)​
Fallout 4 - Game Pass Core
Fallout 4 (PC) (PC)​
Oblivion​
Prey (Cloud Gaming enabled)​
Prey (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (PC) (PC)​
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition (PC) (PC)​
The Evil Within​
The Evil Within (PC) (PC)​
Wolfenstein: The New Order​
Wolfenstein: The New Order (PC) (PC)​
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood​
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (PC) (PC)​
2799-03-16 23:59:59
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE - PC) (PC) (Not available for purchase)
Fallout 76 - Game Pass Core
Fallout 76 - PC (PC)​
2799-03-17 23:59:59
DOOM Eternal (BATTLEMODE) (Not available for purchase) - Game Pass Core
2799-03-20 23:59:59
Sea of Thieves: 2024 Edition​
2799-03-24 07:59:59
Bleeding Edge​
2799-03-26 23:59:59
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition​
2799-03-28 09:59:59
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 2, Give No Shelter​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 1, In Too Deep - The Walking Dead: Michonne - Ep. 3, What We Deserve​
The Walking Dead: Michonne - The Complete Season​
2799-03-28 23:59:59
Lost in Random™ - EA Play - 2022-04-13​
2799-04-10 23:59:59
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Game Pass Core
2799-04-29 23:59:59
Joy Ride Turbo​
2799-05-12 23:59:59
Psychonauts​
Psychonauts (Windows 10) (PC)​
2799-05-17 23:59:59
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries​
2799-05-18 23:59:59
Wasteland 2: Director's Cut​
2799-05-31 23:59:59
Banjo Kazooie: N n B​
Banjo-Kazooie​
Banjo-Tooie​
Disneyland Adventures​
Fable III​
Gears of War​
Gears of War 2​
Gears of War: Judgment​
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Not available for purchase)
Halo 5: Guardians - Game Pass Core
Halo: Spartan Assault​
Jetpac Refuelled​
Kameo​
Perfect Dark Zero​
Rush: A DisneyPixar Adventure​
Sunset Overdrive​
Viva Piñata​
Viva Piñata: TIP​
2799-06-09 05:59:59
Crackdown 3​
Crackdown 3: Campaign (Not available for purchase)
Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone (Not available for purchase)
Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition - Game Pass Core
Gears of War 4​
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 (PC)​
Halo: Spartan Assault (Mobile / PC)​
Halo: Spartan Strike​
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (PC)​
Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition (PC)​
ReCore​
2799-06-09 06:58:59
Halo Wars 2: Standard Edition (PC) - Game Pass Core
Sunset Overdrive (PC)​
2799-06-09 23:59:59
Gears 5​
The Outer Worlds​
The Outer Worlds (PC)​
2799-06-13 18:59:59
Arx Fatalis (PC)​
BATTLETECH (PC)​
Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™​
Dishonored®: Death of the Outsider™ (PC) (PC)​
DOOM​
Fallout (PC)​
Fallout 2 (PC)​
Fallout 3​
Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (PC)​
Fallout Tactics (PC)​
Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (PC)​
Psychonauts 2 - Game Pass Core
RAGE​
The Evil Within® 2​
The Evil Within® 2 (PC) (PC)​
Wolfenstein II: Standard Edition (PC)​
Wolfenstein® II: The New Colossus™​
2799-06-14 23:59:59
ScreamRide​
2799-06-17 23:59:59
The Bard's Tale ARPG : Remastered and Resnarkled​
2799-06-21 23:59:59
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Not available for purchase)
2799-06-26 23:59:59
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2799-06-30 23:59:59
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GoldenEye 007 (Not available for purchase)
Jetpac Refuelled (Not available for purchase)
Perfect Dark​
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Rare Replay​
Ryse: Legendary Edition​
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State of Decay: Year-One (Not available for purchase)
2799-07-13 23:59:59
Halo 3 (PC)​
2799-07-18 23:59:59
BLiNX: The Time Sweeper​
Crimson Skies®: High Road to Revenge™​
2799-07-21 23:59:59
Grounded - Game Pass Core
2799-08-13 14:59:59
The Bard's Tale Trilogy​
2799-08-16 23:59:59
Microsoft Solitaire Collection​
2799-08-17 23:59:59
New Super Lucky's Tale​
2799-08-19 14:59:59
Age of Empires Definitive Edition (PC)​
2799-08-19 19:59:59
Quake​
Quake III Arena (PC)​
2799-08-19 23:59:59
Battletoads​
2799-08-24 23:59:59
Halo Infinite​
2799-08-27 14:59:59
The Bard's Tale IV: Director's Cut​
2799-08-31 23:59:59
Fable Anniversary - Game Pass Core
Gears of War 3​
Mass Effect​
2799-09-19 23:59:59
Tell Me Why​
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Tell Me Why: Chapters 1-3​
Wasteland 3​
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2799-09-22 02:59:59
Halo 3: ODST (PC)​
2799-09-30 23:59:59
Dishonored 2 - Game Pass Core
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DOOM Eternal Standard Edition - Game Pass Core
Phoenix Point​
2799-10-07 23:59:59
Brütal Legend​
2799-10-14 23:59:59
Fallout: New Vegas (BC)​
2799-10-27 23:59:59
Day of the Tentacle Remastered​
Full Throttle Remastered​
Grim Fandango Remastered​
2799-10-28 14:59:59
Age of Empires IV: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
2799-11-03 23:59:59
Minecraft Launcher (PC)​
2799-11-08 23:59:59
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2799-11-09 15:59:59
Gears Tactics​
2799-11-14 23:59:59
Halo 4 (PC)​
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Halo: The Master Chief Collection​
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - Halo 3: ODST​
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2799-11-16 23:59:59
ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (PC) (Not available for purchase)
ARK: Survival Evolved Explorer's Edition (Not available for purchase)
2799-11-23 00:59:59
Forza Horizon 5 (Not available for purchase)
Forza Motorsport (Not available for purchase)
2799-11-23 23:59:59
Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition - Game Pass Core
2799-12-03 15:59:59
DOOM Eternal Standard Edition (PC) (PC)​
2799-12-07 23:59:59
Need for Speed™ Unbound - EA Play - 2023-06-22​
2799-12-11 23:59:59
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition (PC) (PC)​
2799-12-13 23:59:59
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition​
2799-12-17 23:59:59
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Game Pass Core
2799-12-30 23:59:59
Battlefield 4 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
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Fe - EA Play - 2018-09-03​
Immortals of Aveum™ - EA Play -​
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Need for Speed Rivals - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Need for Speed™ - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Need for Speed™ Heat - EA Play - 2020-07-14​
Need for Speed™ Payback - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
NHL® 94 REWIND - EA Play - 2021-03-01​
Peggle 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-14​
Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
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STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order™ - EA Play - 2020-11-10​
STAR WARS™ Battlefront™ II - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
STAR WARS™: Squadrons - EA Play -​
Super Mega Baseball 3 - EA Play - 2022-03-03​
The Sims™ 4 - EA Play -​
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Titanfall® 2 - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
UFC® 4 - EA Play -​
Unravel - EA Play - 2019-05-08​
Unravel Two - EA Play - 2019-01-19​
2799-12-31 22:59:59
skate. (2007) - EA Play - 2021-08-05​
9998-12-30 00:00:00
A Way Out - EA Play - 2019-11-02​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (PC)​
Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Not available for purchase)
Alice: Madness Returns - EA Play - 2019-10-25​
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire (PC)​
Anthem™ - EA Play - 2019-10-09​
ARK: Survival Ascended​
ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition​
ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition (PC)​
Army of Two™ - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
As Dusk Falls​
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Battlefield™ Hardline (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2018-07-08​
Bejeweled 2 - EA Play - 2008-03-08​
Bejeweled 3 - EA Play - 2011-10-14​
BLACK™ - EA Play -​
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Broken Age (PC)​
Contrast​
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Costume Quest 2​
Crysis - EA Play - 2020-07-09​
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Dante's Inferno™ - EA Play - 2018-08-02​
Dead Space (2008) - EA Play - 2008-10-08​
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Dead Space™ Ignition - EA Play - 2010-10-13​
DEATHLOOP​
Diablo® IV (Not available for purchase)
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Dragon Age™: Inquisition (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2014-10-28​
Feeding Frenzy - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Feeding Frenzy 2 - EA Play - 2008-09-17​
FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION - EA Play -​
Forza Horizon 4 (Not available for purchase)
Forza Motorsport Standard Edition​
Gang Beasts - Game Pass Core
Ghostwire: Tokyo​
Halo 2: Anniversary (PC)​
Halo Wars: Definitive Edition​
Heavy Weapon - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Hi-Fi RUSH​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition​
Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition (PC)​
Mass Effect 2 - EA Play -​
Mass Effect™ 3 - EA Play -​
Mass Effect™: Andromeda (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2017-03-15​
MASSIVE CHALICE​
Medal of Honor Airborne - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Microsoft Flight Simulator (Not available for purchase)
Microsoft Flight Simulator Standard 40th Anniversary Edition​
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Mirror's Edge™ - EA Play - 2008-11-05​
MLB® The Show™ 24 Xbox Series X|S (Not available for purchase)
Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch™ Remastered​
Peggle - EA Play - 2018-11-11​
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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition (PC) (PC)​
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition​
Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition​
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Quake 4 (PC)​
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RESIDENT EVIL 3 for Xbox (Not available for purchase)
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Rise of Nations: Extended Edition (PC)​
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The Walking Dead: A New Frontier - Episode 1​
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Torment: Tides of Numenera​
We Happy Few​
We Happy Few (PC)​
Wolfenstein 3D (PC)​
Zuma - EA Play - 2008-03-15​
Zuma's Revenge! - EA Play - 2012-07-07​
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Diablo® IV PC (PC) (Not available for purchase)
EA SPORTS™ FIFA 23 Standard Edition Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-05-16​
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F1® 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2023-06-30​
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Far Cry® 5 (Game Pass only SKU) (PC) (Not available for purchase)
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FIFA 22 Xbox One (Not available for purchase) - EA Play - 2021-11-21​
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FOR HONOR : MARCHING FIRE EDITION (PC) (Not available for purchase)
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Starfield: Old Mars Skin Pack (Not available for purchase)
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VALORANT (PC) (Not available for purchase)
Watch Dogs®2 (PC) (Not available for purchase)
 
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On a (maybe) slightly less depressing note I'm hoping someone could explain how redownloading digital 360 games is going to work post the marketplace shut down. They're saying if you've already purchased it you'll be able to re-download it but the store is getting shut down. But the 360 doesn't have a library of owned games like current Xbox platforms. So will the store still be searchable for downloads?

It's been years since I've been on a 360 but I just hooked one back up so I can go and get some of these games I'm interested in before they get delisted. But want to make sure I'll actually be able to redownload them once the store gets shut down
 
On a (maybe) slightly less depressing note I'm hoping someone could explain how redownloading digital 360 games is going to work post the marketplace shut down. They're saying if you've already purchased it you'll be able to re-download it but the store is getting shut down. But the 360 doesn't have a library of owned games like current Xbox platforms. So will the store still be searchable for downloads?

It's been years since I've been on a 360 but I just hooked one back up so I can go and get some of these games I'm interested in before they get delisted. But want to make sure I'll actually be able to redownload them once the store gets shut down
Your download list should still be accessible and software redownloadable from there
 
It is very cumbersome to go through the download list on the Xbox 360 if you have a lot of games for sure. Ever since they got rid of the web based list it has become pretty much unmanageable for powerr users. I miss the days of queuing up downloads to my home console on the website and as soon as I logged into the 360 the games just started downloading. Back when XBox was an awesome brand.
 
All the songs I've downloaded for Rock Band and Guitar Hero just make me give up ever redownloading anything off the 360 list. I would more than willingly submit to piracy before I ever go through that list trying to find some vague piece of DLC that I bought that Microsoft didn't even bother listing the name of the game on it.
 
Know not everyone is a fan of Phil Spencer but I wouldn’t be surprised if the next shoe to drop is him leaving. I honestly don’t think this is what he envisioned for Xbox but don’t think he’s pulling the strings anymore.
If he does, it will be his own volition. Hard to keep your heart in the game when decisions from the top keep destroying it for you. The closures were the right call for a lot of dead studios though. Tango just came down to sales/engagement sadly.
 
Anyone else wonder if GamePass itself is what is leading to all this upheaval? I honestly find that I am less inclined to use GamePass due to fear of the game leaving the library unexpectedly. I have focused on beating the core Microsoft games that are permanently in the library and the odd shorter experience (Shredder's Revenge) type game that interests me. After completing the Halo series and Gears of War series, there aren't a lot of games left that interest me outside of perhaps the Fable Games. The racing games (Forza) get repetitive and boring for me. If the costs rise then it becomes more financially prudent to just buy what I want on sale and get to it on my schedule.

Granted, I am a relative new-comer back to the Xbox scene having transitioned from the OG Xbox to Playstation 3 in the mid 2000s due to Microsoft forcefully removing all OG Xbox game stock from Gamestops while PS2 players still had the ability to buy cheap old preowned games. I tend to buy my non-exclusive games on the PSN network since it has traditionally had better exclusives.

However, now that the Steam Deck is out I am trying to transition away from these consoles to Steam for better security/stability going forward since the game library will be forward-compatible with future PC-based systems along with having free cloud storage for game saves.
 
If he does, it will be his own volition. Hard to keep your heart in the game when decisions from the top keep destroying it for you. The closures were the right call for a lot of dead studios though. Tango just came down to sales/engagement sadly.
I Mean there's enough reason to fire him when you see the only Microsoft first party franchise and studio that can put games out regularly with no constant shake ups is both Forza games. Otherwise look at Halo Infinite and how long that took and even after release they had absolutely no idea how to keep the momentum despite so many games they could've copied. Perfect Dark probably won't see light of day until near the end of this decade at best. State of Decay 3 we ain't hear a word from since that announce trailer. That game announced by Rare we don't see. Fable doesn't have a time frame or any real substantial gameplay. I'm sure there are other games that haven't done anything or seen any movement since being announced, but the fact I can just name those off the top of my head shows the man gotta commit to getting actual exclusives out there. The one studio that has flourished under Phil is Obsidian, but that's because no one has ever given that company the time and money to do whatever and they are working like the rug can be pulled under at any second.

Also I'll just say we going to get Metroid Prime 4 before Perfect Dark and hell, there's straight up HIGHER CHANCE we can get a Metroid Prime 5 before they even drop Perfect Dark with all the behind the scenes mismanagement on that game and that kinda blows my mind!
 
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Anyone else wonder if GamePass itself is what is leading to all this upheaval? I honestly find that I am less inclined to use GamePass due to fear of the game leaving the library unexpectedly. I have focused on beating the core Microsoft games that are permanently in the library and the odd shorter experience (Shredder's Revenge) type game that interests me. After completing the Halo series and Gears of War series, there aren't a lot of games left that interest me outside of perhaps the Fable Games. The racing games (Forza) get repetitive and boring for me. If the costs rise then it becomes more financially prudent to just buy what I want on sale and get to it on my schedule.

Granted, I am a relative new-comer back to the Xbox scene having transitioned from the OG Xbox to Playstation 3 in the mid 2000s due to Microsoft forcefully removing all OG Xbox game stock from Gamestops while PS2 players still had the ability to buy cheap old preowned games. I tend to buy my non-exclusive games on the PSN network since it has traditionally had better exclusives.

However, now that the Steam Deck is out I am trying to transition away from these consoles to Steam for better security/stability going forward since the game library will be forward-compatible with future PC-based systems along with having free cloud storage for game saves.
GamePass is definitely a factor, it tanks sales of any day one game badly, and it doesn't seem like the subscription numbers are supporting the difference.
 
And a different article being quoted and continuing the trend of yeah shit hella sucks!


Going to be one dark cloud hanging over that Xbox showcase next month. Also sounds like we lost a new Dishonored game as well!
If putting COD on Game Pass day one is even a debate, they've lost the vision. As I said, I'm no longer extending my GPU sub until it's more clear what their intentions are. It started off very strong but sounds like now they're dealing with the fallout of missed targets. People will claim it's sustainability but the reality is: the entire industry has grown unstable.
 
If putting COD on Game Pass day one is even a debate, they've lost the vision. As I said, I'm no longer extending my GPU sub until it's more clear what their intentions are. It started off very strong but sounds like now they're dealing with the fallout of missed targets. People will claim it's sustainability but the reality is: the entire industry has grown unstable.
oh look whose eyes are opening.

*winkyface* 😉
 
The whole day one on GamePass release is awesome for gamers but when it's CoD level of money it makes no sense for Xbox to lose those sales. Most cod players buy the game 70 dollars but spend 2 or 3 times that on skins and bundles. Maybe that's what they are banking on but who knows. The day one, day and date release really needed to be it'll come 3 to 6 months after release. That would get the game back in the spotlight after initial hype has died off.....but what do I know I'm not an exec at these companies.
 
oh look whose eyes are opening.

*winkyface* 😉
I don't think the magnitude of danger these budgets had grown to was visible to us until closures started happening. Companies were hiding the true numbers but can't hide the layoffs. We're only now getting to really see the impact.
 
The whole day one on GamePass release is awesome for gamers but when it's CoD level of money it makes no sense for Xbox to lose those sales. Most cod players buy the game 70 dollars but spend 2 or 3 times that on skins and bundles. Maybe that's what they are banking on but who knows. The day one, day and date release really needed to be it'll come 3 to 6 months after release. That would get the game back in the spotlight after initial hype has died off.....but what do I know I'm not an exec at these companies.
This is a critical factor, and one Sony was wise to consider right away. MS has a lot of math to work out on releasing a new CoD game day 1 on GP vs 3-6 months down the road (which is likely the smarter idea and why we've not heard about the plan yet). I think the internal metrics right now are showing that Starfield/Redfall/Hi-Fi Rush are probably not moving the needle significantly in terms of subs. If Xbox doesn't release CoD this year as a day 1 release there will be additional havoc/criticism of Xbox. If they do release it day 1, it could backfire by not driving subs and being a huge financial loser for MS. If it was my company, I would at least do a day 1 release in 2024 as a trial and to shake off some of the abysmal news we've had recently. Might be a costly mistake, but the metric information would be very insightful for future plans.

Here are some outdated, but interesting stats on CoD sales. Simply owning ABK is a great cash cow, which is risky to jeopardize with Game Pass involvement. Based on the stats I found a few days ago, I'd think CoD would be a perfect Game Pass game since so many people put so much time into it, and dlc is popular. Toss some monthly perks into the mix to keep people interested and you'd likely have a nice winner for Xbox.

 
Don't all those people who would have bought COD still need to have GP? I am not sure I am quite getting it. Are there people who buy COD that are done after 1 month AND spend $70 for the game? I feel like if you are a big COD player, then buying it is the better option anyway.

Edit: I am assuming the average GP subscriber is also not a huge COD player that pours hours into the game year after year.
 
Don't all those people who would have bought COD still need to have GP? I am not sure I am quite getting it. Are there people who buy COD that are done after 1 month AND spend $70 for the game? I feel like if you are a big COD player, then buying it is the better option anyway.

Edit: I am assuming the average GP subscriber is also not a huge COD player that pours hours into the game year after year.

They would need Game Pass Core (Formerly Xbox Live Gold) but they wouldn't need Game Pass for console or Ultimate.
 

PS Store Sales Charts - Europe (April 2024)​

  1. Sea of Thieves
  2. Grand Theft Auto 5
  3. Helldivers 2
  4. Stellar Blade

Pretty interesting results on the European PSN sales charts. Former Xbox exclusive beating a brand new PlayStation exclusive at release?!?!
 
So it looks like the countdown in Bloomy's tracker for Just Cause 4 was a huge price increase in Argentina. Wasn't limited to Just Cause 4 either, apparently 90% of Square Enix published titles just got their price nuked over there (talking +17,000% in some cases).. Not sure why it's necessary at this point since getting new codes from there has been 100% dead for some time and the amount of people who are doing proxy purchases has to be infinitely smaller, but I guess they're that desperate for more revenue. Locals must be fuming.

PS Store Sales Charts - Europe (April 2024)​

  1. Sea of Thieves
  2. Grand Theft Auto 5
  3. Helldivers 2
  4. Stellar Blade

Pretty interesting results on the European PSN sales charts. Former Xbox exclusive beating a brand new PlayStation exclusive at release?!?!
Just cements that Sea of Thieves (and most Xbox stuff for a while now) was never a system seller for someone who was already invested into the PlayStation ecosystem.
 
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Also seems like Stellar Blade isn’t a system seller for Sony. I honestly don’t think either side has had system sellers this gen so far. People are sticking with the ecosystem they locked into last gen for the most part. Heck, Sony doesn’t have any AAA first party games this year and the PS5 is still selling.
 

PS Store Sales Charts - Europe (April 2024)​

  1. Sea of Thieves
  2. Grand Theft Auto 5
  3. Helldivers 2
  4. Stellar Blade

Pretty interesting results on the European PSN sales charts. Former Xbox exclusive beating a brand new PlayStation exclusive at release?!?!
Not a great comparison. Stellar Blade is is published by them but not a first-party game, and being a Nier style action game with Korean coomer art style makes it at least a little niche. Beating Helldivers is more impressive, but that's a couple months old now.
 
Of all the things they could / should have updated on the 360 OS, it's the digital library management. PS3 is just as bad and it just astonishes me.

If putting COD on Game Pass day one is even a debate, they've lost the vision. As I said, I'm no longer extending my GPU sub until it's more clear what their intentions are. It started off very strong but sounds like now they're dealing with the fallout of missed targets. People will claim it's sustainability but the reality is: the entire industry has grown unstable.
Pretty crazy that wasn't something they had a clear vision and understanding of when considering purchasing A-B, given that the biggest benefit is to expand the titles available for Game Pass. Maybe some of the same execs demanding blood sacrifices didn't realize how GP works when the sale was going through?

There's plenty of ways they could add perks instead, but not without walking back their most simple and marketable premise: first party games are Day One.

Also seems like Stellar Blade isn’t a system seller for Sony. I honestly don’t think either side has had system sellers this gen so far. People are sticking with the ecosystem they locked into last gen for the most part. Heck, Sony doesn’t have any AAA first party games this year and the PS5 is still selling.

Only Spider-Man 2. I bought my PS5 in anticipation of FF16 but it's not a true system seller IMHO.

Now with those games eventually going to PC, I doubt as many people will want to drop $400-500 on a console if they weren't already interested.
 
Beat me to saying it. FFXVI and Rebirth probably moved some systems too but based on their sales, I agree with you about it not really being enough to count.
It’s amazing to me that neither one of the Final Fantasy games are even in the top 20 on PSN both in Europe and the US. Older games like The Witcher 3 are even in the top 20.

Square surely has to be disappointed in how they’ve sold, particularly Rebirth.
 
They would need Game Pass Core (Formerly Xbox Live Gold) but they wouldn't need Game Pass for console or Ultimate.
This is correct. And that would be very interesting to see numbers ,they moved xbox live Gold to GPC for a reason. Doubt we would ever get it but I want to see the split between core and ultimate.
 
Splitting FF7 into 3 parts was always going to be bad for sales of individual titles. It's bad enough that the first game is just as much a sequel to a 28 year old game as it is a remake. Selling additional sequels to that is an uphill battle because people don't want to jump in late.

If they do make another AAA budget remake, X is probably it, and I'd expect they'll try a more faithful remake of just 1 with new content. I'm curious how the rumored IX remake will be handled.
 
Crime Boss: Raccoon City Rocket City Rockay City(???) is free to play this weekend. This is that game that has all the B and C list celebrities and got terrible reviews and I have no idea what kinda game it is (FPS? Crime simulator? Strategy?? Seriously I got no idea!). I Want to download it so I can know what the fuck it is, but I also like the possibility of never knowing and for all I know is a kart racing puzzle game rogue like.
 
Splitting FF7 into 3 parts was always going to be bad for sales of individual titles. It's bad enough that the first game is just as much a sequel to a 28 year old game as it is a remake. Selling additional sequels to that is an uphill battle because people don't want to jump in late.

If they do make another AAA budget remake, X is probably it, and I'd expect they'll try a more faithful remake of just 1 with new content. I'm curious how the rumored IX remake will be handled.

I somehow forgot about FF7R when replying earlier. Rebirth is so huge that I don't think making it into three parts hurts the experience, but there are definitely folks waiting for all three to be out before diving in. I didn't realize it wasn't charting anymore on PSN though.

All of it makes it even harder to fathom having a new console generation in three years.
 
Splitting FF7 into 3 parts was always going to be bad for sales of individual titles. It's bad enough that the first game is just as much a sequel to a 28 year old game as it is a remake. Selling additional sequels to that is an uphill battle because people don't want to jump in late.

If they do make another AAA budget remake, X is probably it, and I'd expect they'll try a more faithful remake of just 1 with new content. I'm curious how the rumored IX remake will be handled.
I’ve enjoyed the remakes, but you hit the nail on the head about staying faithful. I feel like these remakes robbed me of a traumatizing scene from when I was a kid. Seeing Sephiroth impale in the original Final Fantasy seven was traumatic to me. lol. This new game that completely and kind of upset about it.
 
Crime Boss: Raccoon City Rocket City Rockay City(???) is free to play this weekend. This is that game that has all the B and C list celebrities and got terrible reviews and I have no idea what kinda game it is (FPS? Crime simulator? Strategy?? Seriously I got no idea!). I Want to download it so I can know what the fuck it is, but I also like the possibility of never knowing and for all I know is a kart racing puzzle game rogue like.
I think it's something akin to Payday. I bought it last year and didn't play much.
I didn't think it was nearly as bad as I heard but it wasn't what I was expecting and deleted it pretty quick.
 
It's brutal reading anything Xbox lately. They're getting dunked on hard everywhere you look. I wonder how long until we see some big shakeups.
 
I think it's something akin to Payday. I bought it last year and didn't play much.
I didn't think it was nearly as bad as I heard but it wasn't what I was expecting and deleted it pretty quick.
Okay, but how's the farm sim aspect of it? I Will keep making up whatever the hell this game is regardless.

It's brutal reading anything Xbox lately. They're getting dunked on hard everywhere you look. I wonder how long until we see some big shakeups.
I Mean this should've finally been The Year. PS5 really got nothing going on first party wise. A bunch of first party games that were announced years ago finally seeing the light of day (and on Game Pass day one) and hey we should be balls deep in Activision games and a XBox game showcase next month! Instead just no idea what they're doing and legit sounds like shit will be hopeless for awhile. Hell might as well throw in the constant nerfing of the Rewards program (their random countdown timers for searches are the goddamn worse) and also the closing of foreign game codes all make it hard to find any positives right now.

In better news, we're getting a new Lord of the Rings movie about Gollum and I hope they take notes from my playthrough of Return of the King on Gamecube and just make it that Sam and Frodo versus Gollum boss fight, but with "WHOOP THAT TRICK!" On repeat for two hours.
 
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This is a critical factor, and one Sony was wise to consider right away. MS has a lot of math to work out on releasing a new CoD game day 1 on GP vs 3-6 months down the road (which is likely the smarter idea and why we've not heard about the plan yet). I think the internal metrics right now are showing that Starfield/Redfall/Hi-Fi Rush are probably not moving the needle significantly in terms of subs. If Xbox doesn't release CoD this year as a day 1 release there will be additional havoc/criticism of Xbox. If they do release it day 1, it could backfire by not driving subs and being a huge financial loser for MS. If it was my company, I would at least do a day 1 release in 2024 as a trial and to shake off some of the abysmal news we've had recently. Might be a costly mistake, but the metric information would be very insightful for future plans.

Here are some outdated, but interesting stats on CoD sales. Simply owning ABK is a great cash cow, which is risky to jeopardize with Game Pass involvement. Based on the stats I found a few days ago, I'd think CoD would be a perfect Game Pass game since so many people put so much time into it, and dlc is popular. Toss some monthly perks into the mix to keep people interested and you'd likely have a nice winner for Xbox.


Bingo. but.

Customers aren't going to pay premiums, and double tiered membership access, for another inferior platform's experience. Gamepass is wholly different from 'buying full retail versions'. The game is either free with Gamepass or it's not. If it's free on GPU then you don't get all those 20mil in sales.

Right now Microsoft is holding Ace, King and almost forced to go all-in, but while they're 4th in chips at the table. They are currently at a crossroads. But the other players get to keep playing the upcoming hand. Either route they choose could be super risky for the immediate future of the entire Xbox brand.

Hedging isn't going to work well either. Gamers have choices where to play now. Honestly MS should probably just go all-in and play hardball with their properties. Or else you need a full wide release with no weird gatekeeping. (Sony and Nintendo are NOT going to have Gamepass on their platforms, and that I keep hearing people say that is laughable derangement. No one needs them; it's the other way around.)
The biggest thing I keep coming back to is how Xbox's retail presence is almost nonexistent. That's free advertisement man! People get older, and "there's not any good games to play". MS really needs to focus more on their (real world) presence and marketing. Right now it has almost become a fully-online cult niche. I mean the shelf real-estate, cardboard cutouts, and promotions are nearly free. Why are you squandering all that?? Is something else happening? Sure seems so.

The Steam box already happened. How'd that go? no one cares. Valve is copying Nintendo's hardware model now. What is Microsoft doing?
 
I seen that happened for the other vampire survivors DLCs on on release, it will take a few days for it to appears and work.
That is good! I was about to start a riot! Could not bear the loss of a quarter with all the bullshit Microsoft has been pulling! I will keep my quarter! Damnit! Nevermind I am paying in Bing Points!

On a side note week 5 of 20 ARP from Alienware Arena :(
 
It if funny if they didn't shut down Tango this whole thing would been over. No one is boycotting MS over the developers of Mighty Doom and Redfall.
I mean losing Arkane Austin sucks too but yeah, the other two studios getting shutdown is a nothingburger comparatively (unless you're a big Human Head fan as I went into earlier). Tango has the benefit of being their only Japanese studio and having recently put out a critical darling (especially in comparison to a lot of Xbox first-party output in the last decade).
I've definitely seen some people (probably weebs) going overboard and saying they should have shut down 343 instead. Joke's on them, they basically already did. :ROFLMAO:
I'm still hopeful that 343 might be able to get its act together after the house-cleaning. They've made some good changes to Infinite already, just a shame that they are backing away from it at this point and leaving a bunch of cut content unfinished.
 
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It if funny if they didn't shut down Tango this whole thing would been over. No one is boycotting MS over the developers of Mighty Doom and Redfall.
I Ain't boycotting, but I am pissed at not just losing Tango, but with Arkane Texas gone it sounds like we lost a Dishonored game. All because Todd Howard forced a multiplayer FPS game on them.
 
That is good! I was about to start a riot! Could not bear the loss of a quarter with all the bullshit Microsoft has been pulling! I will keep my quarter! Damnit! Nevermind I am paying in Bing Points!

On a side note week 5 of 20 ARP from Alienware Arena :(
I think I had something like 7 weeks in a row of 20 arp and then got 500 drp 2 out of the next 3 weeks.
 
I think I had something like 7 weeks in a row of 20 arp and then got 500 drp 2 out of the next 3 weeks.
Hopefully a month straight of 2000 DRP! lol

I was wondering do people still play Destiny 1? I don't remember where left off probably taken king....Is it worth buying the collection? I never started Destiny 2 am I too far behind? Do characters transfer from D1 to D2? And now is it cross play / save?

Also I have the just for you offer for Assassins Creed Odyssey Ultimate / Gold.... worth it? one was $8 & $12, I think I had all the other DLCs.
 
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Sarah Bond is the first to communicate, via Bloomberg interview, this week. Talks about closures.
Embarrassing interview. She completely deflects all questions except about mobile games.

Q: "Why close the studios, why Tango when they just made a highly successful game?"

A: Did you see Fallout on Amazon Prime?

Q: What about people worried about future consoles being made?

A: That's a concern in the ENTIRE industry (lol). I've committed to backwards compatibility in the future.
 
Embarrassing interview. She completely deflects all questions except about mobile games.

Q: "Why close the studios, why Tango when they just made a highly successful game?"

A: Did you see Fallout on Amazon Prime?

Q: What about people worried about future consoles being made?

A: That's a concern in the ENTIRE industry (lol). I've committed to backwards compatibility in the future.
I mean I would say the whole of the Xbox executive team has always been pretty awful especially in regards to having open and honest conversations around serious issues (like in this case). I'll watch the full interview on my commute in a bit but doesn't surprise me she just deflects everything. The obvious exception to all of that was always Phil who did genuinely feel like a gamer and always felt sincere but I think at this point he's burnt pretty much all his good graces. Whether he was involved in this decision or if it came from the Microsoft higher ups, he still has fault here.

I was curious why - typically it was always Phil who did announcements and interviews and things and I'm surprised it was Booty who announced the closures and did the town hall and now it's bond doing the press tour. Feels like big shake ups at MS are happening or just actually kicking in after their previous role changes
 
I mean I would say the whole of the Xbox executive team has always been pretty awful especially in regards to having open and honest conversations around serious issues (like in this case). I'll watch the full interview on my commute in a bit but doesn't surprise me she just deflects everything. The obvious exception to all of that was always Phil who did genuinely feel like a gamer and always felt sincere but I think at this point he's burnt pretty much all his good graces. Whether he was involved in this decision or if it came from the Microsoft higher ups, he still has fault here.

I was curious why - typically it was always Phil who did announcements and interviews and things and I'm surprised it was Booty who announced the closures and did the town hall and now it's bond doing the press tour. Feels like big shake ups at MS are happening or just actually kicking in after their previous role changes
The Xbox team got reorganized after the Activision deal finished. Booty is the person directly in charge of the studios, and Bond essentially has Spencer's previous job as far as I can tell. I guess he won't be the only one jumping on grenades now.

 
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