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[quote name='cancerman1120']Giving slidecage a run for his money I see.[/QUOTE]

im too lazy to link utube videos lol


problem is today People think they are OWED THIS back in the 70s it was a shame thing if you was on welfare today people are more then happy to be on it and dont give a damn who knows about it and want more
 
^Its in there: $25.1 Billion for The Department of Agriculture. All total (just the Corporate welfare listed which isnt all of it ,simply what Cato suggested we look into trimming) My finger cypherin' brings it to over $96 Billion we doled out.
Compare that to $101 Billion we spent in FY11 on Food Assistance...
 
wow she said someone needs to pay and be held accountable for all her children... hmm maybe her and the father of the children should have thought about that before the 15/10 children were born.

further proof that humanity should not be allowed freedom and eugenics while evil is the only answer.
 
[quote name='slidecage']problem is today People think they are OWED THIS back in the 70s it was a shame thing if you was on welfare today people are more then happy to be on it and dont give a damn who knows about it and want more[/QUOTE]

How do you know there still aren't many, many people who would prefer not to be on welfare and are ashamed to have to take a handout? If that's the case, it's doubtful they are going to make making videos to broadcast those thoughts on YouTube.
 
The thing is if there are 45 million people on food stamps today and 0.01% of them made a youtube video like the ones above, we would have 4,500 videos. It is such a small % of people with this distorted sense of entitlement. The vast majority of people are not proud to be on assistance but if the choice is starve or take it I know which way I would go. Even if 10% of them (4.5 million) think this way you are still talking about 1.5% of the total population. I am sure there are plenty of things that 1.5% of the population does/thinks/says that are just as disgusting or outrageous. This type of stuff is a non-issue.
 
[quote name='Cantatus']How do you know there still aren't many, many people who would prefer not to be on welfare and are ashamed to have to take a handout? If that's the case, it's doubtful they are going to make making videos to broadcast those thoughts on YouTube.[/QUOTE]

i mean you did not see people back in the 70s demanding more welfare they tried to get off it now people go on the news and DEMAND more

and 45 million people on food stamps probaly only 20 million really need it the other 25 is just bloated bullcrap that people are just taking cause its FREE

if someone called you up today and go .... Heres 50 bucks per week free are you really going to say NO
 
[quote name='soonersfan60']You don't hear the ads all the time saying it's easier than ever now to qualify, even if you have a job, etc.?[/QUOTE]

Never but I looked it up. FYI just so people do not start on Obama for this here is a quote from the article I read below.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm


"The issue has become so heated that Newt Gingrich called President Obama the "food stamp president" to show how he's increased government spending.

Food stamp enrollment certainly shot up during the Great Recession, though it had been rising for more than a decade.

President Bush launched a recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office. The USDA began airing paid radio spots in 2004.

President Obama's stimulus act made it easier for childless, jobless adults to qualify for the program and increased the monthly benefit by about 15% through 2013."
 
Why would Bush do that? He's Republican and all Republicans hate the poor. Maybe he meant to recruit rich billionaires into being eligible for food stamps. That must be it. It backfired somehow.
 
Well as far as most Republicans are concerned George W. Bush was never President. I think a better question is why they Republicans were not calling him the food stamp President? In fact, they seem to have never complained about one bit of spending until Obama took over.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Never but I looked it up. FYI just so people do not start on Obama for this here is a quote from the article I read below.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm


"The issue has become so heated that Newt Gingrich called President Obama the "food stamp president" to show how he's increased government spending.

Food stamp enrollment certainly shot up during the Great Recession, though it had been rising for more than a decade.

President Bush launched a recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office. The USDA began airing paid radio spots in 2004.

President Obama's stimulus act made it easier for childless, jobless adults to qualify for the program and increased the monthly benefit by about 15% through 2013."[/QUOTE]

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/romneys-food-stamp-stretch/


Food stamp participation has increased under Obama. A new Romney campaign ad says that “15 million more are on food stamps,” and that’s nearly the case. The number is 14.7 million. That’s the same increase that occurred under President George W. Bush, but over just three-and-a-half years instead of eight.


so how can BUSH jack it up 63% in 8 years yet that one story says OBAMA 15% when he added just as many as bush did in his first 3 1/2 years
 
The last Omnibus Farm Bill was passed in 2006. THe SNAP budget (aka Food Stamps) was increased. Just don't call it a handout to agribusiness when actual (sub)humans get the handout. As part of that OFB, the income rate for SNAP was tagged to 140% of poverty level at the time. As unemployment increased due to Bush's policies, more people qualified as median income dropped 33%.

Obama is the food stamp president.
 
Wait a second, the judge threw the woman in the first video in jail for not answering her question? Since when is that a crime? I'm pretty sure people have a right to remain silent. I think that bothers me more than the whole welfare part.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Remember kids:

Thinking you should get to keep what you've earned = Wrong

Thinking you're entitled to the earnings of others = Right[/QUOTE]

If only things were that simple. Define "earned".
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']It's called a dictionary. Look it up.[/QUOTE]

Of course you would miss the point. You think every dollar a person/company gets is actually earned? Do you really think CEOs "earn" their 50 million dollar paydays? But I should have figured a non-answer of look it up in the dictionary should be expected from you. Everything is black and white I guess.
 
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[quote name='slidecage']i mean you did not see people back in the 70s demanding more welfare they tried to get off it now people go on the news and DEMAND more[/quote]

We also live in a world where it's much easier to get your voice out there than it was 40 years ago. If I wanted to say something stupid that a lot of people would have access to, there were very few options. Now one person can use something like Facebook or YouTube and if it catches the right eyes, can be held up as some misguided example.

and 45 million people on food stamps probaly only 20 million really need it the other 25 is just bloated bullcrap that people are just taking cause its FREE
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That's really simplifying the numbers. How much does increased food stamps say about want as it does about need? I think if we were in a fantastic economy, the argument would have more legs.

See, here's the thing: People can't point to the foodstamp numbers and the unemployment numbers as evidence the economy is poor, but then say people are only getting foodstamps because it's "free". More people being unemployed and a weaker economy would seem to go hand-in-hand with higher foodstamp numbers.

if someone called you up today and go .... Heres 50 bucks per week free are you really going to say NO
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Are you saying you would?
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Of course you would miss the point. You think every dollar a person/company gets is actually earned? Do you really think CEOs "earn" their 50 million dollar paydays? But I should have figured a non-answer of look it up in the dictionary should be expected from you. Everything is black and white I guess.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they do. Somebody makes the decision to pay somebody $50 mil. It is an agreement between two parties. If somebody willing pays somebody else, no matter how said currency is produced, then they have earned it, otherwise the paying party wouldn't pay it. If the paying party didn't feel as though the payee wasn't earning the money, then they would end the agreement to pay them.

Either way, no third party is entitled to the agreement made by two private individuals. That's why, in order to accomplish such an immoral act, the state has to use its monopoly on violence to redistribute the money exchanged to a third party.

I told you to look it up because the dictionary definition of "Obtain (money) in return for labor or services" fits. That's why it wasn't a non-answer.
 
Taxpayer money is the only money that "we the people" should have any say so about. What a company pays its CEO or workers should not be dictated to it by any outside source, unless that company is receiving taxpayer funded money. Corporate welfare sucks, but payments to "green" energy start ups are the same form of welfare. Maybe even worse because they seem to go bankrupt a bit more;-) Don't bad mouth one form of welfare and not the other. The 2 billion in foreign aid that we give to Egypt "sucks". Why should we even try to buy influence with any foreign, sovereign nation? End all foreign payments, at least until we are out of debt. Sorry Israel, we will defend you as our ally when you are attacked, but you should be able to finance your own government. "No entangling alliances" would be even better.
I posted these videos to represent the attitudes that I see every day, in government subsidized neighborhoods. Scamming the system is very prevalent, and exploiting it through having extra children is RAMPANT.....or maybe all of the supposed 1.5% of abusers just happen to live in my city;-) The last video is about the UK's welfare system. It destroys incentive in recipients just as the US's does. Listen to the lady's own remarks....
 
So neither of you see the connection between unregulated capitalism that give millions upon millions to the top (many times regardless of performance) by cutting jobs, wages and benefits and the rise of welfare? Government is the only entity able to take a small part of that back to allow people to eat. It is obvious corporations would just let people starve if it meant a better quarterly profit. You might not like the government but corporations have you over a barrel and you don't even realize it or choose to be part of it.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']Of course you would miss the point. You think every dollar a person/company gets is actually earned? Do you really think CEOs "earn" their 50 million dollar paydays? But I should have figured a non-answer of look it up in the dictionary should be expected from you. Everything is black and white I guess.[/QUOTE]
This is someone who thinks the constitution is an open and shut case, no room for interpretation. So of course it's black and white.
 
[quote name='cancerman1120']So neither of you see the connection between unregulated capitalism that give millions upon millions to the top (many times regardless of performance) by cutting jobs, wages and benefits and the rise of welfare? Government is the only entity able to take a small part of that back to allow people to eat. It is obvious corporations would just let people starve if it meant a better quarterly profit. You might not like the government but corporations have you over a barrel and you don't even realize it or choose to be part of it.[/QUOTE]

:lol: When have we EVER had unregulated capitalism? Besides, unless you can prove to me with evidence that draws a correlation between this "unregulated capitalism" and the rise of welfare, you're simply engaging in hyperbole. I know statists love to perpetuate this myth that profit is the only thing that drives motivation without government intervention, but things like crony-capitalism and corporatism exist with the benefit of the state, not the lack thereof.
 
People need to empower themselves, not government. As long as a company is private and following the law, then it should be able to cut wages and benefits as it sees fit. It does not belong to the people. The people can cause change by boycotting the company. It's not the company's fault that the majority of Americans are too lazy and selfish to not buy the latest I-phone to send a message of disapproval. I lived a few years making about $15k/year due to valuing free time over wealth. No cable TV, no $50/month cell phone, no extravagant meals, no fancy car, NO CHILDREN! I was eating chicken breast, veggies, tuna fish, and protein shakes, my time was spent surfing, playing tennis and basketball, working out, and dating. I was lean, strong, and happy. I lived within my means. I miss those days....My point being that we have become lazy and dependent. We want everything without the required work and dedication. You want kids? Become a success. Whining about your "fate" is weak and unproductive. The world owes you nothing. Forcing a max wage is straight up slavery. Every man is entitled to the sweat off his brow, as long as it is obtained legally. Don't like your job? Quit. Get the other workers to quit also. I'm not anti-union until they become as demanding and unjust as the corporations they fight. Companies should have the right to fire everybody and start over if they wish. Private money versus public money being the difference. The government should NEVER force its will on anybody(even a corporation) unless a legitimate law has been broken. I'm for basic regulations that ensure clean water and environmental protection. VERY BASIC. People need to be made responsible for their own lives again. Choices and repercussions.
I'm also a Christian. Jesus says to love everybody. What you do to the least of you is done unto Him. Forced charity AKA welfare is not a Christian value. Help the poor, don't wait for the government to steal from you to do it. I have my faith because my mom was healed from MS over 20 years ago. She has the scans of the brain lesions and memories of uncontrolled shaky hands to prove it. I saw it all. The doctors have no answer to why she is still alive, yet alone able to work her entire career up until retiring last year. Maybe she is Wolverine, maybe Santa Claus does exist, all I know is that she is still alive and healed, and she believes that God is the reason. My faith stands strong for it. I have been called a racist in these forums. I have risked my life to save minorities many times during my life. That should speak volumes about how I view every person the same. Deeds and actions over aesthetics.
We have complicated and "over-bureacracied" our government into the mess it is today. Democrats and Republicans are to blame. We need to get our financial house in order and keep it that way. Nobody should have to fork over half of their legitimate earnings over to the government to do it either. Are you guys for the real estate tax? Taking 55% of a dead citizens already taxed property? That is truly shameful.
Doh, why would I be banned for this thread?
 
[quote name='egofed']People need to empower themselves, not government. As long as a company is private and following the law, then it should be able to cut wages and benefits as it sees fit. It does not belong to the people. The people can cause change by boycotting the company. It's not the company's fault that the majority of Americans are too lazy and selfish to not buy the latest I-phone to send a message of disapproval. I lived a few years making about $15k/year due to valuing free time over wealth. No cable TV, no $50/month cell phone, no extravagant meals, no fancy car, NO CHILDREN! I was eating chicken breast, veggies, tuna fish, and protein shakes, my time was spent surfing, playing tennis and basketball, working out, and dating. I was lean, strong, and happy. I lived within my means. I miss those days....My point being that we have become lazy and dependent. We want everything without the required work and dedication. You want kids? Become a success. Whining about your "fate" is weak and unproductive. The world owes you nothing. Forcing a max wage is straight up slavery. Every man is entitled to the sweat off his brow, as long as it is obtained legally. Don't like your job? Quit. Get the other workers to quit also. I'm not anti-union until they become as demanding and unjust as the corporations they fight. Companies should have the right to fire everybody and start over if they wish. Private money versus public money being the difference. The government should NEVER force its will on anybody(even a corporation) unless a legitimate law has been broken. I'm for basic regulations that ensure clean water and environmental protection. VERY BASIC. People need to be made responsible for their own lives again. Choices and repercussions.
I'm also a Christian. Jesus says to love everybody. What you do to the least of you is done unto Him. Forced charity AKA welfare is not a Christian value. Help the poor, don't wait for the government to steal from you to do it. I have my faith because my mom was healed from MS over 20 years ago. She has the scans of the brain lesions and memories of uncontrolled shaky hands to prove it. I saw it all. The doctors have no answer to why she is still alive, yet alone able to work her entire career up until retiring last year. Maybe she is Wolverine, maybe Santa Claus does exist, all I know is that she is still alive and healed, and she believes that God is the reason. My faith stands strong for it. I have been called a racist in these forums. I have risked my life to save minorities many times during my life. That should speak volumes about how I view every person the same. Deeds and actions over aesthetics.
We have complicated and "over-bureacracied" our government into the mess it is today. Democrats and Republicans are to blame. We need to get our financial house in order and keep it that way. Nobody should have to fork over half of their legitimate earnings over to the government to do it either. Are you guys for the real estate tax? Taking 55% of a dead citizens already taxed property? That is truly shameful.
Doh, why would I be banned for this thread?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, posting videos with black people that play on racist stereotypes as if they weren't while stating how prevalent those cases are, when they aren't, isn't racist at all! Just like how posting pics of Obama as a monkey isn't racist because there are tons of pics of Bush Jr as a monkey too! You know exactly how you're racist so get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Taxes=slavery huh? This is you, isn't it?
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[quote name='Temporaryscars']Doh is playing the racecard! Everybody drink![/QUOTE]
Yeah, posting those videos wasn't playing it at all! Go fuck yourself and disappear like you usually do.
 
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The second video didn't show the person and the fourth was a white chick. So, half the videos showed individuals of color and the other half did not. Thus, racism.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Yeah, posting those videos wasn't playing it at all! Go fuck yourself and disappear like you usually do.[/QUOTE]
It's like vs has contracted herpes.
 
The governmental paratistes are only on the increase. This country is in shambles already due to these leeches and clearly people wanted more handouts for the next four years.
 
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[quote name='UncleBob']The second video didn't show the person and the fourth was a white chick. So, half the videos showed individuals of color and the other half did not. Thus, racism.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad we agree.

[quote name='Nogib']The governmental paratistes are only on the increase. This country is in shambles already due to these leeches and clearly people wanted more handouts for the next four years.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is a paratistes?

Btw, has anyone reported the spambot yet? I'd rather not have the report go out multiple times.
 
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